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1. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: OSH camping status .... lots of space available (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 07:56 AM - Re: OSH camping status .... lots of space available (johngoodman)
3. 08:56 AM - Re: HID replacement lights (James, Peter [SD])
4. 09:16 AM - Re: HID replacement lights (Tim Olson)
5. 09:20 AM - Re: HIDs (Chris Johnston)
6. 09:26 AM - Re: HID replacement lights (pascal)
7. 09:26 AM - Re: HID replacement lights (pascal)
8. 09:46 AM - Re: HIDs (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
9. 10:23 AM - billet door guide fasteners (steve dinieri)
10. 10:26 AM - Re: HIDs (Tim Olson)
11. 10:34 AM - Re: HID replacement lights (David McNeill)
12. 10:49 AM - Re: HIDs (Bill DeRouchey)
13. 10:59 AM - Re: HIDs (Deems Davis)
14. 11:11 AM - Re: HIDs (David McNeill)
15. 11:19 AM - HID install (David McNeill)
16. 12:21 PM - Re: billet door guide fasteners (David Maib)
17. 02:23 PM - Hartzell Prop (John Dunne)
18. 03:10 PM - Re: Hartzell Prop (pascal)
19. 07:38 PM - Re: HID install (GenGrumpy@AOL.COM)
20. 09:38 PM - alternator belt (David McNeill)
21. 10:39 PM - Re: alternator belt (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: OSH camping status .... lots of space available |
Ya, but it's the massive $5 discount on the weekly ticket that gets you a brat.
HA
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH camping status .... lots of space available
Not too bad of a discount, $2 a day times 5 days = enough to get that first bottle
of water for free!!
Rick Sked
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From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:07:33 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: OSH camping status .... lots of space available
Ya, massive discount too. Is it the end of their fiscal year? :)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: OSH camping status .... lots of space available
dlm46007(at)cox.net wrote:
> You may be right about the attendance. There seems to be a lot of emphasis
> on early purchase of tickets.
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That must be why they extended the discount period [Laughing]
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB
(N2GB registered)
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| Subject: | Re: OSH camping status .... lots of space available |
You talking about the "Big Taste Grill" truck from Johnsonville Brats?
msausen wrote:
> Ya, but it's the massive $5 discount on the weekly ticket that gets you a brat.
HA
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | HID replacement lights |
David,
Stop it already! Every time I think I am done buying 'goodies' for my plan
e, somebody comes up with one of those have to have it items that cost me m
ore money!
So tell us, what is the heat output of the HID vs. the stock Halogen's? I
am concerned about the heat warping the fiberglass wingtip....and I am sure
others are concerned and would like to know also.
Pete
(not sure where I'm at anymore - too many little things left to do!)
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| Subject: | Re: HID replacement lights |
HID's are far cooler than Halogens....far cooler, which is one
of their benefits.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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James, Peter [SD] wrote:
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> David,
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> Stop it already! Every time I think I am done buying goodies for my
> plane, somebody comes up with one of those have to have it items that
> cost me more money!
>
>
>
> So tell us, what is the heat output of the HID vs. the stock Halogens?
> I am concerned about the heat warping the fiberglass wingtip.and I am
> sure others are concerned and would like to know also.
>
> Pete
>
> (not sure where Im at anymore too many little things left to do!)
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That's very impressive. I almost wish I hadn't cut my leading edges for
the Duckworks lights!
cj
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: HIDs
before and after pictures of my 10 are on
http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=661
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| Subject: | Re: HID replacement lights |
Check out their site for some other questions. I had the same thought
and recall they had a Q& A
Q:Do they get hot
A: Yes, but the heat is directly equivalent to the power being applied.
If your original application was designed for a 55w halogen, then going
to a 35w or a 50w HID should not generate a significant amount more heat
than the original halogen.
From: James, Peter [SD]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:52 AM
Subject: re: RV10-List: HID replacement lights
David,
Stop it already! Every time I think I am done buying 'goodies' for my
plane, somebody comes up with one of those have to have it items that
cost me more money!
So tell us, what is the heat output of the HID vs. the stock Halogen's?
I am concerned about the heat warping the fiberglass wingtip..and I am
sure others are concerned and would like to know also.
Pete
(not sure where I'm at anymore - too many little things left to do!)
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| Subject: | Re: HID replacement lights |
forgot the link.. has the wig-wag answer as well
http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=684
From: James, Peter [SD]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:52 AM
Subject: re: RV10-List: HID replacement lights
David,
Stop it already! Every time I think I am done buying 'goodies' for my
plane, somebody comes up with one of those have to have it items that
cost me more money!
So tell us, what is the heat output of the HID vs. the stock Halogen's?
I am concerned about the heat warping the fiberglass wingtip..and I am
sure others are concerned and would like to know also.
Pete
(not sure where I'm at anymore - too many little things left to do!)
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You could use one set for taxi and the other for landing. In combination y
ou can start a nuclear reaction. :)
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: HIDs
That's very impressive. I almost wish I hadn't cut my leading edges for th
e Duckworks lights!
cj
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: HIDs
before and after pictures of my 10 are on
http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=661
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| Subject: | billet door guide fasteners |
hi all,
another lister who bought some of my door guides brought up a good
point. he was concerned about the attach screws that I use and their
strength, and more importantly the quality ( consistency ). I buy most
hardware from mcmaster carr , and after a little searching found a
stainless fastener of the same size but mil spec and rated at 80k
tensile strength. I'm switching to this screw and am inviting all who
bought door guides to drop me an email with your address and I'll send
out the new hardware. sorry I don't keep personal info after the sale...
Steven DiNieri
iflyrv10.com
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Yes, but NOT going into the wingtips still gives a little better
coverage pattern, and more NAV/Anti-Collision light options.
But, these sure make the Van's standard halogen lights
worthless in comparison. At least with these you have plenty
of light. What you don't want is a narrow focused beam, you
want brightness and coverage across the front of the plane.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Chris Johnston wrote:
> Thats very impressive. I almost wish I hadnt cut my leading edges for
> the Duckworks lights!
>
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>
> cj
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> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeill
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:22 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: HIDs
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> before and after pictures of my 10 are on
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| Subject: | HID replacement lights |
the replacement HID seems to have less radiated heat to the fiberglass tip.
When testing the lights I placed my hand about 1.5" ahead of the tip of the
light (lens off) and it became hot; but , for unknown reasons the HID did
not heat the strobe glass directly in front of it. going flying tonight so
will have more info later.
_____
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Peter [SD]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: re: RV10-List: HID replacement lights
David,
Stop it already! Every time I think I am done buying 'goodies' for my
plane, somebody comes up with one of those have to have it items that cost
me more money!
So tell us, what is the heat output of the HID vs. the stock Halogen's? I
am concerned about the heat warping the fiberglass wingtip..and I am sure
others are concerned and would like to know also.
Pete
(not sure where I'm at anymore - too many little things left to do!)
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I looked at the vendor website and the picture of the stock Vans looks susp
icious. My stock Vans lights look far, far better than shown. I would judge
the Vans option as barely adequate.
-
Bill
N939SB, flying
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--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: HIDs
Yes, but NOT going into the wingtips still gives a little better
coverage pattern, and more NAV/Anti-Collision light options.
But, these sure make the Van's standard halogen lights
worthless in comparison. At least with these you have plenty
of light. What you don't want is a narrow focused beam, you
want brightness and coverage across the front of the plane.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Chris Johnston wrote:
> That=A2s very impressive. I almost wish I hadn=A2t cut my leading edges
for
> the Duckworks lights!
>
>
>
> cj
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>
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeil
l
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:22 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: HIDs
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Depending on what Duckworks option you have, they may have a solutions
already, Their website say's they have a replacement for the 4" lights.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Chris Johnston wrote:
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> Thats very impressive. I almost wish I hadnt cut my leading edges
> for the Duckworks lights!
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I am not sure what wattage bulbs Vans supplies. Mine were 55w; checked them
when removed. Whatever they were, they significantly heated the exterior of
the tip even with the protective aluminum foil installed.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill DeRouchey
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: HIDs
I looked at the vendor website and the picture of the stock Vans looks
suspicious. My stock Vans lights look far, far better than shown. I would
judge the Vans option as barely adequate.
Bill
N939SB, flying
--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: HIDs
Yes, but NOT going into the wingtips still gives a little better
coverage pattern, and more NAV/Anti-Collision light options.
But, these sure make the Van's standard halogen lights
worthless in comparison. At least with these you have plenty
of light. What you don't want is a narrow focused beam, you
want brightness and coverage across the front of the plane.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Chris Johnston wrote:
> That?s very impressive. I almost wish I hadn?t cut my leading edges
for
> the Duckworks lights!
>
>
>
> cj
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> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeill
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:22 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: HIDs
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The total install took three hours from wingtip removal to wingtip
installation. the ballast was installed as shown on
http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=685 . The ballast is threaded for
8-32 screws and I used an NAS variety available from Spruce with both
Phillips internal and external hex head. I installed the screws from inside
the tip rib with a small ratchet available from HF. I used a washer under
the head of the screw and on the outside of the rib to provide an offset of
the ballast from the tip itself. As the site indicates there is an audible
whine for less than 10 seconds while it warms. No RFI was observed but will
check again tonight when flying.
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| Subject: | Re: billet door guide fasteners |
Hi Steve,
Please send the new screws to me at:
David Maib
1314 Marquette Ave., #2805
Minneapolis, MN 55403
Thanks!
David
On Friday, June 20, 2008, at 12:31PM, steve dinieri <capsteve@adelphia.net> wrote:
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Guys, a few have been asking the question about composite props so I
thought I'd pass this reply from Hartzell on to the list.
John 40315 (final not so fun bits)
------------------------------
"John,
Sam Gascho forwarded me your e-mail. I am the account rep for Hartzell
Propeller that handles Vans.
We should have a composite 3-blade prop on an RV-10 in the next month.
The same builder is also testing a 2-blade prop on his RV-4. I am
waiting on data from that test. The one comment that he did share was
how much smoother the 2-blade composite prop is compared to his 2-blade
metal.
Are you getting a lot of requests from builders in Australia for a
Hartzell composite prop?
Vans has not decided if they want to offer our composite prop. I've
asked RV builders that call me for a composite prop to e-mail or call
Vans asking it the plan to offer the Hartzell composite prop.
I should have some test data on the RV-4 soon, and RV-10 data in the
next month. Please feel free to check back with me.
Regards,
Kevin Karam
Account Representative
Hartzell Propeller, Inc.
(P) +1-937-778-5731
(F) +1-937-778-4321
kkaram@hartzellprop.com
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell Prop |
Just another reason for builders to call and send e-mails to Van's to
offer the prop for RV-10's. If there is enough demand (price being the
factor) Van's may very well offer it.. Not sure why the hesitation, it's
not like they have a MT on one of there planes and hence only sell what
they have tested.
From: John Dunne
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Hartzell Prop
Guys, a few have been asking the question about composite props so I
thought I'd pass this reply from Hartzell on to the list.
John 40315 (final not so fun bits)
------------------------------
"John,
Sam Gascho forwarded me your e-mail. I am the account rep for Hartzell
Propeller that handles Vans.
We should have a composite 3-blade prop on an RV-10 in the next month.
The same builder is also testing a 2-blade prop on his RV-4. I am
waiting on data from that test. The one comment that he did share was
how much smoother the 2-blade composite prop is compared to his 2-blade
metal.
Are you getting a lot of requests from builders in Australia for a
Hartzell composite prop?
Vans has not decided if they want to offer our composite prop. I've
asked RV builders that call me for a composite prop to e-mail or call
Vans asking it the plan to offer the Hartzell composite prop.
I should have some test data on the RV-4 soon, and RV-10 data in the
next month. Please feel free to check back with me.
Regards,
Kevin Karam
Account Representative
Hartzell Propeller, Inc.
(P) +1-937-778-5731
(F) +1-937-778-4321
kkaram@hartzellprop.com
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Thanks, Dave. Great pictures to boot.
I'm half way through the SB, what a pain in the royal butt this is......
In a message dated 6/20/2008 1:21:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
dlm46007@cox.net writes:
The total install took three hours from wingtip removal to wingtip
installation. the ballast was installed as shown on
_http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=685_ (http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=685) . The ballast is
threaded for 8-32 screws and I used an NAS variety available from Spruce with
both Phillips internal and external hex head. I installed the screws from
inside the tip rib with a small ratchet available from HF. I used a washer under
the head of the screw and on the outside of the rib to provide an offset of
the ballast from the tip itself. As the site indicates there is an audible
whine for less than 10 seconds while it warms. No RFI was observed but will
check again tonight when flying.
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List)
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What is the alternator belt for the IO540; seems like there was a Gates
number?
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| Subject: | Re: alternator belt |
David, the belt that came w/ my B&C alternator is marked : 7365 GATES
XL 110925
Deems
David McNeill wrote:
> What is the alternator belt for the IO540; seems like there was a
> Gates number?
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