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1. 01:35 AM - Re: Rudder pedal mounting (Paul Grimstad)
2. 04:11 AM - Re: Fuel Sender Question (Jesse Saint)
3. 07:23 AM - Re: Rudder pedal mounting (Fred Williams, M.D.)
4. 07:34 AM - Re: Hysol 9360 Test and Window Install (John Cox)
5. 07:42 AM - Re: Rudder pedal mounting (John Cox)
6. 07:58 AM - Re: Rudder pedal mounting ()
7. 08:04 AM - Re: Rudder pedal mounting (Deems Davis)
8. 08:10 AM - Re: Rudder pedal mounting (Rick Sked)
9. 09:12 AM - Re: Rudder pedal mounting (Paul Grimstad)
10. 09:51 AM - Ray Allen Relay Decks (gary)
11. 10:01 AM - Re: RV-10 Group Camping FAQs (Tim Olson)
12. 02:44 PM - Re: Rudder pedal mounting (Kelly McMullen)
13. 04:34 PM - Re: Ramp to belly distance? (jerry petersen)
14. 06:47 PM - Re: Ramp to belly distance? (orchidman)
15. 06:50 PM - Re: Re: Aileron Bellcrank Bushing Questions (John Ackerman)
16. 07:38 PM - Re: Fuel Sender Question (Robin Marks)
17. 11:08 PM - Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
18. 11:12 PM - Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pedal mounting |
Dave
I didn't use any spacers on mine. I do however have an alternate center
support bushing and mounting bracket that attaches to the stock firewall
support bracket, not shown in the photo.
Feedback and questions are welcome however please be understanding, I am
typing one finger / left handed from rotater cuff surgery last week.
Paul Grimstad
RV-10 450
Portland, Or.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Leikam
To: RV-10 matronics
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder pedal mounting
The instructions have you cut the F-6115 rudder pedal bearing block in
half which removes material and causes the part to clamp the rudder
pedal assemblies. Has anyone used spacers between the two halfs to
prevent the action from being so stiff?
Dave Leikam
#40496 N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sender Question |
I usually see the floats work up to 24 to 26 gallons when adding 2
gallons at a time. Either something is obstructing it or somehow it
is stuck. You might try rocking the plane a little to see if you can
get it moving. Although I have not tried the capacitance senders, I
have been extremely impressed with the accuracy of the floats.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jun 30, 2008, at 11:21 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> RV-10 List,
> I am beginning to learn the hard way about the
> differences between float type, resistance, senders and capacitance
> senders. We installed the standard float type resistance senders
> that are standard with the kit. We are now at the point where we are
> filling up the tanks 1 gallon at a time to calibrate the G900X and
> we found that the float seems to top out when the tanks are about
> half full or at about 14-15 gallons. I always assumed based on the
> outboard fill location plus the slope of the tanks and given the
> float location that we would probably not get the last 5 gallons or
> so as part of our float reading however we are experiencing a much
> greater =93blind=94 area of approximately half the tank. This leads to
a
> whole host of issues involving the EFIS readings that I don=92t want
> to think about at this time. Obviously the most critical portion of
> the tank is well represented but it would be great to read my fuel
> levels well above half way.
> Is there something we are missing regarding getting more fuel level
> resolution out of our resistance senders? The Garmin rep is helping
> up set up the panel. He said this is a common issue with some
> Bonanzas to the point where they place two float sensors in the
> tank, one for the upper portion of the tank and one for the lower
> portion of the tank.
> I am open to any suggestion as to a way to read more than half the
> fuel in these tanks.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Robin
>
> Getting closer=85 and further all the time.
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pedal mounting |
Paul :
Great looking set of pedals for the 10. Hope your recovery is
progressing well.
Fred Williams.
40515
working through the maze of wiring.
will put the windshield in with weld on and the sides with silpruf.
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| Subject: | Rudder pedal mounting |
Wow, now that is what the factory should have designed. And the cables
are concealed within the tunnel. Reminds me of building hot-rods. Is
the foot pressure stiffer than stock?
Nice photo.
John Cox
RV-10 600
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder pedal mounting
Dave
I didn't use any spacers on mine. I do however have an alternate center
support bushing and mounting bracket that attaches to the stock firewall
support bracket, not shown in the photo.
Feedback and questions are welcome however please be understanding, I am
typing one finger / left handed from rotater cuff surgery last week.
Paul Grimstad
RV-10 450
Portland, Or.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Leikam <mailto:daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
To: RV-10 matronics <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder pedal mounting
The instructions have you cut the F-6115 rudder pedal bearing
block in half which removes material and causes the part to clamp the
rudder pedal assemblies. Has anyone used spacers between the two halfs
to prevent the action from being so stiff?
Dave Leikam
#40496 N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic
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href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pedal mounting |
I added washers (same thickness as the band saw blade) between the two parts.
No gaps and no binding.
Jim Combs =====================================================
From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder pedal mounting
The instructions have you cut the F-6115 rudder pedal bearing block in half which
removes material and causes the part to clamp the rudder pedal assemblies.
Has anyone used spacers between the two halfs to prevent the action from being
so stiff?
Dave Leikam
#40496 N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pedal mounting |
So when are you going to share (i.e. market) those beauties with the
rest of us ???????
Deems
and the brake cylinders and plumbing are 'hidden' on the back side!!!!!!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pedal mounting |
Heh He...should be the same....2 foot pounds...one for each foot on each pe
dal=C2-=C2- :)
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 7:38:25 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder pedal mounting
Wow, now that is what the factory should have designed.=C2- And the cable
s are concealed within the tunnel.=C2- Reminds me of building hot-rods.
=C2- Is the foot pressure stiffer than stock?
Nice photo.
John Cox
RV-10 600
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder pedal mounting
Dave
I didn't use any spacers on mine. I do however have an alternate center sup
port bushing and mounting bracket that attaches to the stock firewall suppo
rt bracket, not shown in the photo.
Feedback and questions are welcome however please be understanding, I am ty
ping one finger / left handed from rotater cuff surgery last week.=C2-
Paul Grimstad
RV-10 450
Portland, Or.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Leikam
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder pedal mounting
The instructions have you cut the=C2-F-6115=C2-rudder pedal bearing blo
ck=C2-in half which=C2-removes material and=C2-causes the part=C2-t
o clamp the rudder pedal assemblies.=C2- Has anyone used spacers between
the two halfs to prevent the action from being so stiff?
Dave Leikam
#40496=C2- N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI =C2- =C2- href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-L
ist">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.mat
ronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/co
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pedal mounting |
Deems,
There is one builder that should be installing a set very soon. I will be
working closely with him on the details.
Marketing effort is slowly underway, for now we are just happy to be back to
building our 10 kit and working on pedal design for the RV6,7 & 9.
Additionally, I have several pedal sets sold and we are planning a small
production run. The system cost is $1,795.
Paul Grimstad
RV10 450
Portland, Or.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder pedal mounting
>
> So when are you going to share (i.e. market) those beauties with the rest
> of us ???????
>
> Deems
>
> and the brake cylinders and plumbing are 'hidden' on the back side!!!!!!
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Ray Allen Relay Decks |
I have 2 of the new style relay decks that I do not need. I will sell, make
offer.
Gary Specketer
gspecketer@hotmail.com
770-403-3450
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Group Camping FAQs |
Bob,
Thanks a million for the FAQ...that helps me a ton!
I added a page and links now for the FAQ here:
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/Camping_FAQ.html
We added another couple sites the past couple days.
Looks like lots of people are opting for the earlier
stake-out date, so I'm going to have my hands full
that day!
Below is an edited and updated repost of camping info
for those who are still straggling. It looks like we're
going to have quite the group this year, and a whole
mix of different people too. If you want to get a
site though, we're down to 17 days until I stake out
sites, and 21 until Bob does it, so now is the time
to start acting on it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Ok folks, here's a little more OSH camping info for you.
Today I spent a few hours getting things ready to make it
easier for you to get info and send payment stuff. (Which,
by the way, can be done anytime in the next 17 days and it
won't be too late)
First, if you're not on the OSH list (also builders list),
start by getting on that:
http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html
When you submit the form, it gives me the general base info
that I use to fill in the builders list. It's a manual
process, so don't be surprised if it takes me a couple days.
Then, once you have access to the builders list, you can
view it here:
http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html
There you'll find more info that I'll update as we get closer
to OSH, and have OSH planning links for you to download info.
Then, if you're going to get a campsite, we've got a little
more and updated info for you, and I have a camping payment
page here:
http://www.myrv10.com/builderslist/CampingPayments.html
(login required)
There are a couple of new things and changes. First, you can
pay by check or by paypal. Doesn't matter to us which one you
use. Paypal does charge fees, and we did a little quick math
and found that the fees would run between $8.50 and $10.50,
depending on the date you start your campsite reservations on,
as it's based on the total you're sending. So, to make it
simple, I rounded it off to an even $10. Yeah, I know, Bob
said $7, but I don't want to see Bob come up short, and any
extra on that will end up going to the common campsite that
we're buying as a gathering place.
To see the campsite reservations so far, here's a link:
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2008_Campsites.html
Again, if you get a campsite, BE SURE to include your EAA number
somewhere.
So we're finally ready to get those plans in place and be
organized. I'll try to keep up on the stuff as fast as I can.
Oh, and anytime you want to update your info, just fill in the
form at http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html and I'll just get it
all updated for you. If you forgot your password, make sure
to make a note in the comments area and I'll send it.
Tim
Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
> Questions are starting to roll in now that AirVenture is getting close.
> Ive compiled a lot of the common questions and answers from last year
> and put them below. Im also going to bump the RV-10 group camping
> thread for ease in finding it since it contains links to the areas on
> Tims website. If youve got any other questions feel free to either
> post them to the group or contact me offline.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
> N442PM (flying)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder pedal mounting |
I know a patent attorney or two if it would help speed them to market. 8-)
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> So when are you going to share (i.e. market) those beauties with the
> rest of us ???????
>
> Deems
>
> and the brake cylinders and plumbing are 'hidden' on the back side!!!!!!
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ramp to belly distance? |
I'm not sure of the belly height but we were able to get ours out of a door that
was 6'-4" high by 7'-11" wide door with the Lyc IO 540 hung. We were able to
do this by removing the main wheels and fabricating a 4" dolly wheel. We rolled
it about 6-8 feet on the dollys and then put mains back on. It worked great.
I have pictures somewhere if you need to see them.
--- On Mon, 6/30/08, orchidman <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
> From: orchidman <gary@wingscc.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Ramp to belly distance?
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 9:17 AM
> <gary@wingscc.com>
>
> Can someone publish the ramp (garage floor) to belly
> distance with the gear on? It would be really good to get
> the distance both with the engine on and before it is
> installed.
> I am in the garage with the canopy top fully trimmed but
> not bolted down. Standing back and looking at the project
> this weekend I started looking at the distance from the top
> to my garage door opener which also translates to what I
> will need for clearance rolling out of the door.
> I am trying to get as much of the wiring complete before I
> install the gear and dont want to get surprised and
> stuck.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB
> (N2GB registered)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190550#190550
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ramp to belly distance? |
bldanrv9a(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> I'm not sure of the belly height but we were able to get ours out of a door that
was 6'-4" high by 7'-11" wide door with the Lyc IO 540 hung. We were able
to do this by removing the main wheels and fabricating a 4" dolly wheel. We
rolled it about 6-8 feet on the dollys and then put mains back on. It worked
great. I have pictures somewhere if you need to see them.
>
That must have been something to see :D
I have right at 80" so it looks like I will just make it. Thanks all.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB
(N2GB registered)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190814#190814
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Bellcrank Bushing Questions |
Here's something to watch for
I reamed the bushings and still had unsat. operation. Turns out the
brand new bolts were not straight. Used other bolts of same spec and
all was OK.
I recommend going slowly and using lubricant. Don't run the reamer
backward.
John Ackerman 40458
On Jun 30, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Gary
>
> I think I'll put the bellcranks on hold for a few days and order a
> reamer
> from Avery. I can't seem to find one locally.
> rums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190485#190485
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Sender Question |
The problem has been mostly resolved. We forgot to put the 90 degree
bend in the float attachment rod to keep the float arm from rotating.
Without the bend the float just rotated instead of lifting the sender
arm. We are now getting resolution to 23 & 21 gallons. That difference
is probably a small dissimilarity in the geometry of the arms. We will
dig into that soon.
I sure hope we didn't forget to put the 90 degree bend on the engine
mount???
Thanks,
Robin
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4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
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*** Digest Mode ***
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Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
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Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to "rv10-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
digest List.
* If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List, you
will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
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* If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the
normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change
the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please
*do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
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*** List Digest Browser ***
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An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain text
or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to
the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found
at the following location:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
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Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the RV10-List, go to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
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If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
paper mail address in the following format:
smith@somehost.com
Joe Smith
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Tower, CA 91234-1234
098-765-1234 w
123-456-7890 h
Please forward this information to the following email address:
requests@matronics.com
I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other commercial purpose.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
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Recent messages posted to the RV10-List are also made available on
the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
Browser Interface in view-mode.
http://www.matronics.com/browselist/rv10-list
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*** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
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A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all RV10-List content.
content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
http://forums.matronics.com
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*** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
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In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed
information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
http://wiki.matronics.com
The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
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A file containing of all of the previous postings to the RV10-List is
available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
* RV10-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the RV10-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* RV10-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
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All messages posted to the RV10-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?RV10
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**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
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You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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*** List Archive CDROM ***
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A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
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RV10-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV10-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
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- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
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Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RV10-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV10-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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