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1. 12:26 AM - Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 (Chris and Susie McGough)
2. 01:10 AM - Re: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 (Michael Wellenzohn)
3. 04:46 AM - Re: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 (McGANN, Ron)
4. 05:02 AM - Re: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 (John Dunne)
5. 05:51 AM - Re: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 (n801bh@netzero.com)
6. 06:56 AM - Control Approach - Rudder pedals (Deems Davis)
7. 07:19 AM - Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals (Kelly McMullen)
8. 08:33 AM - Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals (gary)
9. 09:25 AM - Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals (Deems Davis)
10. 10:09 AM - Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals (gary)
11. 01:33 PM - Rear Wing Spar question (Bob Leffler)
12. 02:04 PM - Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals (Kelly McMullen)
13. 03:18 PM - Re: Rear Wing Spar question (Fred Williams, M.D.)
14. 03:18 PM - Re: Rear Wing Spar question (Carl Froehlich)
15. 03:37 PM - Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals (John Cox)
16. 04:04 PM - Re: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 (Marcus Cooper)
17. 08:05 PM - Sec 29 follow-up question (Ben Westfall)
18. 08:20 PM - Re: Sec 29 follow-up question (Chris)
19. 09:07 PM - Re: Rear Wing Spar question (pascal)
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| Subject: | Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 |
VH-ICY RV10 first flight Kyneton Australia today ....
regards Chris
More info soon as have to go to night shift
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| Subject: | Re: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 |
Chris,
congratulations!! Show us some pictures please. Any data or special things to mention
about the first flight?
All the best from Zurich
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=191203#191203
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| Subject: | Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 |
Congratulations Chris - looking forward to the flight reports.
cheers,
Ron
-187, nearly there
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Chris and Susie McG
ough
Sent: Fri 7/4/2008 4:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10
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regards Chris
More info soon as have to go to night shift
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| Subject: | Re: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 |
Congratulations Chris, you've put in a fantastic effort!
Cheers,
John 40315
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10
> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
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> VH-ICY RV10 first flight Kyneton Australia today ....
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> regards Chris
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> More info soon as have to go to night shift
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| Subject: | Re: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 |
Wahoo,, way to go. !!!
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N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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| Subject: | Control Approach - Rudder pedals |
Earlier this week Paul Grimstad posted a message along with a picture of
his newly developed rudder pedals for the RV-10. The following day a
package arrived at the Davis house hold with production model #1. I saw
Pauls prototype over a year ago at a dinner at his Home in Oregon, and
persuaded him, that if he ever decided to produce them for others to
make me his 1st customer. True to his word Paul called and said 'they're
ready' and my check was in the mail. I finished with the installation
yesterday, you can read about it on my website.
http://deemsrv10.com/Home-77.htm
http://deemsrv10.com/Home-78.htm
http://deemsrv10.com/Home-78.htm
I've created a picture album as well:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Control%20Approach%20Rudder-Brake%20Pedals/index.html
Paul has done an EXCEPTIONAL job developing these, all of the pieces are
CAD designed, The metal parts are all precision machined, or laser cut.
the welding is done in jigs, the fit is perfect! This is the last
modification I plan on making (I promise !) I've patiently waited while
Paul's perfected these, but it's been well worth it.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
PS. I've got no financial interest in this, I do count myself as a
friend of Pauls' and want this to be a sucess for him.
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| Subject: | Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals |
Golly gee whiz Deems, you are fast! One might think you were on a
mission or sumptin. Looks great!
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Earlier this week Paul Grimstad posted a message along with a picture of his
> newly developed rudder pedals for the RV-10. The following day a package
> arrived at the Davis house hold with production model #1. I saw Pauls
> prototype over a year ago at a dinner at his Home in Oregon, and persuaded
> him, that if he ever decided to produce them for others to make me his 1st
> customer. True to his word Paul called and said 'they're ready' and my check
> was in the mail. I finished with the installation yesterday, you can read
> about it on my website.
>
> http://deemsrv10.com/Home-77.htm
> http://deemsrv10.com/Home-78.htm
> http://deemsrv10.com/Home-78.htm
>
> I've created a picture album as well:
>
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Control%20Approach%20Rudder-Brake%20Pedals/index.html
>
>
> Paul has done an EXCEPTIONAL job developing these, all of the pieces are CAD
> designed, The metal parts are all precision machined, or laser cut. the
> welding is done in jigs, the fit is perfect! This is the last modification I
> plan on making (I promise !) I've patiently waited while Paul's perfected
> these, but it's been well worth it.
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
> PS. I've got no financial interest in this, I do count myself as a friend of
> Pauls' and want this to be a sucess for him.
>
>
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| Subject: | Control Approach - Rudder pedals |
Us big guys with trifocals just hate working under the panel like that.
Looks great, wish they would have been available when I did mine, but the
discomfort of redoing the rudders convinces me to leave well enough alone
and just go flying.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:55 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Control Approach - Rudder pedals
Earlier this week Paul Grimstad posted a message along with a picture of
his newly developed rudder pedals for the RV-10. The following day a
package arrived at the Davis house hold with production model #1. I saw
Pauls prototype over a year ago at a dinner at his Home in Oregon, and
persuaded him, that if he ever decided to produce them for others to
make me his 1st customer. True to his word Paul called and said 'they're
ready' and my check was in the mail. I finished with the installation
yesterday, you can read about it on my website.
http://deemsrv10.com/Home-77.htm
http://deemsrv10.com/Home-78.htm
http://deemsrv10.com/Home-78.htm
I've created a picture album as well:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Control%20Approach%20Rudder-Brake%20Pedals/index.
html
Paul has done an EXCEPTIONAL job developing these, all of the pieces are
CAD designed, The metal parts are all precision machined, or laser cut.
the welding is done in jigs, the fit is perfect! This is the last
modification I plan on making (I promise !) I've patiently waited while
Paul's perfected these, but it's been well worth it.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
PS. I've got no financial interest in this, I do count myself as a
friend of Pauls' and want this to be a sucess for him.
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| Subject: | Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals |
Wuss !!! ;-)
I laughed when I read your post. I've got progressives, and with the
sweat they wouldn't stay put being upside down, and I couldn't crook my
head back far enough to get them focused. So I hope I've got things
hooked up right some of it was 'braile'
Deems
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gary wrote:
>
> Us big guys with trifocals just hate working under the panel like that.
>
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| Subject: | Control Approach - Rudder pedals |
I have a pair of glasses that are total close range. Works great until you
try and step off the wing and walk across the hanger. Might as well be
drunk.
Gary
40274 Flying
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Control Approach - Rudder pedals
Wuss !!! ;-)
I laughed when I read your post. I've got progressives, and with the
sweat they wouldn't stay put being upside down, and I couldn't crook my
head back far enough to get them focused. So I hope I've got things
hooked up right some of it was 'braile'
Deems
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gary wrote:
>
> Us big guys with trifocals just hate working under the panel like that.
>
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| Subject: | Rear Wing Spar question |
On page 15-4 on the Wing manual. It clearly calls to machine counter sink
the top of the rear spar (w-1007a) on the three areas with the three
(w-1007d/e) spar doublers. It also specifically calls to dimple the 26
inboard places on the top and bottom flange on the rear spar.
This isn't making sense to me. Perhaps I'm being a little dense (no jokes
please) this holiday weekend.
The spar is too think to dimple, so I'm surprised that the instructions
don't specifically call for machine countersinking. I suspect this is the
first area that I've run into where the common instructions are omitted,
since it doesn't make any mention of countersinking the other top and bottom
holes that mate with the wing skins.
I assuming that machine countersinking the top and bottom flange on the rear
spar is the appropriate action. I guess I'm probably thinking too hard to
understand why they want these 26 holes dimpled instead of countersinking.
I'm curious to see what others have done.
Thanks,
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Control Approach - Rudder pedals |
Almost as much fun as spending a morning under the belly on a creeper,
getting up and having the blood drain south, leaving brain in oxygen
deficit and muscles numb. Not to mention the hangar is at 100 degrees
at 8 am.
Just did that working on master cylinder on my Mooney. Access from
outside wasn't any better than other brands under the panel. Good
thing master cylinders don't normally need rebuilds that often.
Recovering from 5606 drip torture.
Kelly
40866
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have a pair of glasses that are total close range. Works great until you
> try and step off the wing and walk across the hanger. Might as well be
> drunk.
>
> Gary
> 40274 Flying
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:24 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Control Approach - Rudder pedals
>
>
> Wuss !!! ;-)
>
>
> I laughed when I read your post. I've got progressives, and with the
> sweat they wouldn't stay put being upside down, and I couldn't crook my
> head back far enough to get them focused. So I hope I've got things
> hooked up right some of it was 'braile'
>
> Deems
>
> do not archive
>
> gary wrote:
>>
>> Us big guys with trifocals just hate working under the panel like that.
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rear Wing Spar question |
Bob;
It's been about year and half and I looked over that section again. I
think I did get out my big squeezer and dimpled that line on top the
1007 a. As I remember, the skins would have fit better if they were
countersinked, as long as you had adequate metal there. My wings are out
at the hanger so I couldn't look at them. Maybe someone else has some
more recent recollections.
Dr Fred.
wiring up center console.
Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> On page 15-4 on the Wing manual. It clearly calls to machine counter
> sink the top of the rear spar (w-1007a) on the three areas with the
> three (w-1007d/e) spar doublers. It also specifically calls to dimple
> the 26 inboard places on the top and bottom flange on the rear spar.
>
> This isnt making sense to me. Perhaps Im being a little dense (no
> jokes please) this holiday weekend.
>
> The spar is too think to dimple, so Im surprised that the
> instructions dont specifically call for machine countersinking. I
> suspect this is the first area that Ive run into where the common
> instructions are omitted, since it doesnt make any mention of
> countersinking the other top and bottom holes that mate with the wing
> skins.
>
> I assuming that machine countersinking the top and bottom flange on
> the rear spar is the appropriate action. I guess Im probably thinking
> too hard to understand why they want these 26 holes dimpled instead of
> countersinking.
>
> Im curious to see what others have done.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
> Do not archive
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Rear Wing Spar question |
The rear spar does get dimpled. At .040" it is still thin enough.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (425 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rear Wing Spar question
On page 15-4 on the Wing manual. It clearly calls to machine counter sink
the top of the rear spar (w-1007a) on the three areas with the three
(w-1007d/e) spar doublers. It also specifically calls to dimple the 26
inboard places on the top and bottom flange on the rear spar.
This isn't making sense to me. Perhaps I'm being a little dense (no jokes
please) this holiday weekend.
The spar is too think to dimple, so I'm surprised that the instructions
don't specifically call for machine countersinking. I suspect this is the
first area that I've run into where the common instructions are omitted,
since it doesn't make any mention of countersinking the other top and bottom
holes that mate with the wing skins.
I assuming that machine countersinking the top and bottom flange on the rear
spar is the appropriate action. I guess I'm probably thinking too hard to
understand why they want these 26 holes dimpled instead of countersinking.
I'm curious to see what others have done.
Thanks,
Bob
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| Subject: | Control Approach - Rudder pedals |
Your pictures look like the Matco's bolted right up. That would mean my
upgrade to Groves should fit fine. It sure looks cleaner. How much time
do you have into the retro? Two days after receipt of pedals, Wow and
in that Phoenix heat to boot.
Here is to safer flying without the rats nest of tubing and cylinders
hanging into the cabin. Too bad the factory doesn't get behind selling
the retro.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Control Approach - Rudder pedals
Wuss !!! ;-)
I laughed when I read your post. I've got progressives, and with the
sweat they wouldn't stay put being upside down, and I couldn't crook my
head back far enough to get them focused. So I hope I've got things
hooked up right some of it was 'braile'
Deems
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gary wrote:
>
> Us big guys with trifocals just hate working under the panel like
that.
>
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| Subject: | Another first flight VH-ICY RV10 |
Fantastic Chris,
Congratulations, well done and happy testing.
Marcus
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie
McGough
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:23 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Another first flight VH-ICY RV10
<VHMUM@bigpond.com>
VH-ICY RV10 first flight Kyneton Australia today ....
regards Chris
More info soon as have to go to night shift
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| Subject: | Sec 29 follow-up question |
Back in Sec 29-17 & 18 (links below for reference)
http://www.myrv10.com/Plans/RV10_Plans_sec29-pg17.html
http://www.myrv10.com/Plans/RV10_Plans_sec29-pg18.html
When riveting the fuse side skins to the understructure the plans state in
bold several times to "Only rivet the locations that have rivet callouts".
Were "excited" to start the process of attaching the cabin top this weekend
and I keep coming back to this Sec 29 about riveting the F-1015C Mid Cabin
Decks. From the Figures you can clearly see that there are no rivet
callouts for every 3rd rivet that goes through the side skins into the Mid
Cabin Decks so being astute Van's plans followers we skipped those rivet
locations. Fast forward to Section 43 - Cabin Top and I'm still wondering
when were suppose to rivet these? I've skimmed the plans several times and
have not seen.
1) The reason for skipping those rivets in Sec 29?
2) The place further in the plans where we are supposed to complete
those sections?
Can anyone enlighten me as to what/where I am missing out on this please? I
really doubt it's a "weight saving" feature.
-Ben Westfall
Happy 4th of July.
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| Subject: | Re: Sec 29 follow-up question |
The holes are used to locate the doors and drill holes in the doors to
join the inner and outer doors together. I suppose they are riveted
after the doors are fitted, can't recall exactly.
Chris
#40072
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Westfall
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Sec 29 follow-up question
Back in Sec 29-17 & 18 (links below for reference)
http://www.myrv10.com/Plans/RV10_Plans_sec29-pg17.html
http://www.myrv10.com/Plans/RV10_Plans_sec29-pg18.html
When riveting the fuse side skins to the understructure the plans
state in bold several times to "Only rivet the locations that have rivet
callouts". Were "excited" to start the process of attaching the cabin
top this weekend and I keep coming back to this Sec 29 about riveting
the F-1015C Mid Cabin Decks. From the Figures you can clearly see that
there are no rivet callouts for every 3rd rivet that goes through the
side skins into the Mid Cabin Decks so being astute Van's plans
followers we skipped those rivet locations. Fast forward to Section 43
- Cabin Top and I'm still wondering when were suppose to rivet these?
I've skimmed the plans several times and have not seen.
1) The reason for skipping those rivets in Sec 29?
2) The place further in the plans where we are supposed to
complete those sections?
Can anyone enlighten me as to what/where I am missing out on this
please? I really doubt it's a "weight saving" feature.
-Ben Westfall
Happy 4th of July.
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| Subject: | Re: Rear Wing Spar question |
Maybe I am looking at the wrong piece 1007c is countersunk and the top
and bottom flange of the rear spar are fine to dimple, you as a builder
can make the decision to countersink if you chose but you are looking at
the rear spar..right? shouldn't be a problem to squeeze; the front..
THAT is too thick.
I would guess the tip of the wings having the skins attached over these
flanges they (Van's) want that extra level of strength that dimpling
would produce over countersinking..
From: Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rear Wing Spar question
On page 15-4 on the Wing manual. It clearly calls to machine counter
sink the top of the rear spar (w-1007a) on the three areas with the
three (w-1007d/e) spar doublers. It also specifically calls to dimple
the 26 inboard places on the top and bottom flange on the rear spar.
This isn't making sense to me. Perhaps I'm being a little dense (no
jokes please) this holiday weekend.
The spar is too think to dimple, so I'm surprised that the instructions
don't specifically call for machine countersinking. I suspect this is
the first area that I've run into where the common instructions are
omitted, since it doesn't make any mention of countersinking the other
top and bottom holes that mate with the wing skins.
I assuming that machine countersinking the top and bottom flange on the
rear spar is the appropriate action. I guess I'm probably thinking too
hard to understand why they want these 26 holes dimpled instead of
countersinking.
I'm curious to see what others have done.
Thanks,
Bob
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