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1. 06:14 AM - Re: Easiest way to remove blue plastic from sheet aluminum (johngoodman)
2. 07:36 AM - Re: valve stem (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 10:31 AM - Re: valve stem (rsipp)
4. 10:32 AM - Homebrew O2 System (Perry, Phil)
5. 11:15 AM - Re: Homebrew O2 System (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 11:17 AM - Re: Homebrew O2 System (Rene Felker)
7. 12:10 PM - Re: Homebrew O2 System (Perry, Phil)
8. 12:49 PM - Re: Homebrew O2 System (Tim Olson)
9. 02:39 PM - Re: Homebrew O2 System (Scott Schmidt)
10. 03:14 PM - Re: Homebrew O2 System (Vernon Smith)
11. 05:08 PM - Re: Cowl pins (Roger Standley)
12. 05:36 PM - Re: Cowl pins (Chris and Susie McGough)
13. 07:54 PM - SLICK MAGs (Deems Davis)
14. 08:13 PM - Re: Homebrew O2 System (Robin Marks)
15. 08:20 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Tim Olson)
16. 08:34 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Chuck Henry)
17. 09:41 PM - GADAHRS mounting angle? (Chris Johnston)
18. 09:49 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Sam Marlow)
19. 10:09 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (McGANN, Ron)
20. 10:27 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: Easiest way to remove blue plastic from sheet aluminum |
I started out using a wood burner and a yardstick. Now, I pull the stuff off as
fast as I can. The older stuff is harder to remove but a heat gun helps.
Sometimes I leave it on one side if it's going to slide around a lot, such as a
drill press table, but it doesn't stay on long.
John
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John,
I just did this part recently and had the same reaction but once the tube is
in and inflated the stem is very solid. I think there is probably a better way
but the plans method seems to work fine.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ackerman
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: valve stem
Can somebody tell me what if anything the function of the nut on the
nosewheel valve stem is? and how to install it if it is needed?
Step 7 page 46-3 says to remove the nut and _washers_. There were no
washers.
The stem is threaded on the outer part only- it takes about 4 each #5
washers to allow the nut to tighten at all, otherwise it just screws
off the threaded area.
The nut is just a plain nut; it has no locking feature at all, and
would have to be double-nutted to stay put.
I'm using the Matco 511.25 and Van's-supplied tire and tube.
Puzzled
John Ackerman 40458
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Perhaps the nut on the valve stem is used to lock the valve stem cover by
tightening the two together.
Just a guess on my part.
Dick Sipp
N110DV 40065 flying (in the paint shop) still
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From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: valve stem
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> John,
>
> I just did this part recently and had the same reaction but once the
> tube is in and inflated the stem is very solid. I think there is probably
> a better way but the plans method seems to work fine.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ackerman
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:02 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: valve stem
>
>
> Can somebody tell me what if anything the function of the nut on the
> nosewheel valve stem is? and how to install it if it is needed?
> Step 7 page 46-3 says to remove the nut and _washers_. There were no
> washers.
> The stem is threaded on the outer part only- it takes about 4 each #5
> washers to allow the nut to tighten at all, otherwise it just screws
> off the threaded area.
> The nut is just a plain nut; it has no locking feature at all, and
> would have to be double-nutted to stay put.
> I'm using the Matco 511.25 and Van's-supplied tire and tube.
> Puzzled
> John Ackerman 40458
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Homebrew O2 System |
I live around 32' MSL and we're getting ready to head to the mountains
in a few weeks. Needless to say, my body has become very acclimated to
high levels of oxygen.
This past weekend I spent 1.5 hrs at 10,000ft and I felt like I had been
hit in the forehead with a baseball bat. I just can't stay at 10K for
too long, by body won't allow it.
Armed with that knowledge, I'm looking at getting supplemental oxygen
for the trip. Have any of you built your own O2 system?
I've been trying to come up with a design that will work, but I need to
make sure the flow rates are correct.
If you've built one, how'd you do it?
Phil
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| Subject: | Homebrew O2 System |
Hmm, short of something goofy with a scuba tank I can't think of anything t
hat wouldn't be more complicated or expensive than a portable system. I wo
uld give some serious consideration to something from Aerox, Skyox, or some
one similar.
http://www.aerox.com/portable.html
http://www.skyox.com/
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Homebrew O2 System
I live around 32' MSL and we're getting ready to head to the mountains in a
few weeks. Needless to say, my body has become very acclimated to high le
vels of oxygen.
This past weekend I spent 1.5 hrs at 10,000ft and I felt like I had been hi
t in the forehead with a baseball bat. I just can't stay at 10K for too lo
ng, by body won't allow it.
Armed with that knowledge, I'm looking at getting supplemental oxygen for t
he trip. Have any of you built your own O2 system?
I've been trying to come up with a design that will work, but I need to mak
e sure the flow rates are correct.
If you've built one, how'd you do it?
Phil
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| Subject: | Homebrew O2 System |
Flying out of Utah I have used a portable system for years. My wife does
not fly well above 10K. When I built my 10 I put in the Mountain High
EDS-4ip system. A little pricy but well worth it. I flew down to Vegas
last week, 12.5 and 13.5, and the system works great. The pulse demand
stuff is worth its weight in gold....there is no comparison between the
constant flow portable system and the pulse demand.
http://www.mhoxygen.com
I know that was not exactly your question, but thought I would do a short
pilot report...
By the way TAS at altitude, WOT, 2480..161 knots...
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Homebrew O2 System
I live around 32' MSL and we're getting ready to head to the mountains in a
few weeks. Needless to say, my body has become very acclimated to high
levels of oxygen.
This past weekend I spent 1.5 hrs at 10,000ft and I felt like I had been hit
in the forehead with a baseball bat. I just can't stay at 10K for too long,
by body won't allow it.
Armed with that knowledge, I'm looking at getting supplemental oxygen for
the trip. Have any of you built your own O2 system?
I've been trying to come up with a design that will work, but I need to make
sure the flow rates are correct.
If you've built one, how'd you do it?
Phil
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| Subject: | Homebrew O2 System |
I've been looking at those too. I plan on putting a system into the -10
as it's finished. Right now I'm flying rentals and working to finish
the -10. So I need to come up with a portable solution without spending
a whole lot of money doing it. If I'm spending money on an O2 system, I
want to make sure it an permanent system for the RV-10.
On the simple home brew side, I was thinking along the lines of using a
Benzomatic disposable bottle.
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/7258841.JPG
I've got a system in my boat that allows me to put 99.5% pure oxygen
into my live well. Getting oxygen is as simple as going to Home Depot.
I get ~24hrs out of each bottle, though the run-time would be
significantly less if I was using it in the air. I've got all the
hardware to connect to the bottle, I just don't have a flow
indicator/regulator to put inline.
The attractive part is that you can dispose of your bottle once you're
at the destination. If you run out on your road trip, you just have to
stop by Lowes or Home Depot to pickup another bottle.
I know it's not the perfect system. But at 10,000 feet in a rented
airplane, it could be a very convenient solution for the once-a-year
long cross county. We're not talking about unreasonably high altitudes
and this is just a simple way to get some supplemental oxygen for a very
reasonable price tag.
Phil
________________________________
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) [mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Homebrew O2 System
Hmm, short of something goofy with a scuba tank I can't think of
anything that wouldn't be more complicated or expensive than a portable
system. I would give some serious consideration to something from
Aerox, Skyox, or someone similar.
http://www.aerox.com/portable.html
http://www.skyox.com/
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Homebrew O2 System
I live around 32' MSL and we're getting ready to head to the mountains
in a few weeks. Needless to say, my body has become very acclimated to
high levels of oxygen.
This past weekend I spent 1.5 hrs at 10,000ft and I felt like I had been
hit in the forehead with a baseball bat. I just can't stay at 10K for
too long, by body won't allow it.
Armed with that knowledge, I'm looking at getting supplemental oxygen
for the trip. Have any of you built your own O2 system?
I've been trying to come up with a design that will work, but I need to
make sure the flow rates are correct.
If you've built one, how'd you do it?
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Homebrew O2 System |
I've been happy with a portable with the Precise Flight demand
conservers....you can see a photo here, along with info:
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/accessories/oxygen/index.html
I think that if you're really going to use the system a ton, like
if you live in the mountains and fly over 10K all the time, I'd
probably go with a built-in Mountain High system, as they're
pretty sweet. But, the precise flight demand conservers save
tons of O2 over what a constant flow system uses, and they
require no electricity, so you're not dependent on anything.
But really, I think that a built-in O2 system really is something
that I'd only look at if you actually lived in an area that
forced you into using it all the time. You have more
hassle to build it in, more hassle to fill it up, and more
W&B considerations if you're mounting it in the usual place...
the tail. I find that I only bring the O2 kit along on maybe
6 or 8 flights a year, because if I'm just going 200-300
miles, I may as well just plan to fly 8500-9500' and go
without. it's nice to be able to yank all that and just
throw it on a shelf once in a while. Lots less money, too.
A semi-permanent system would be ok too....and I'd have
no complaints...as long as the bottle can be yanked easily.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Perry, Phil wrote:
> I've been looking at those too. I plan on putting a system into the -10
> as it's finished. Right now I'm flying rentals and working to finish
> the -10. So I need to come up with a portable solution without spending
> a whole lot of money doing it. If I'm spending money on an O2 system, I
> want to make sure it an permanent system for the RV-10.
>
> On the simple home brew side, I was thinking along the lines of using a
> Benzomatic disposable bottle.
>
> http://images.orgill.com/200x200/7258841.JPG
>
> I've got a system in my boat that allows me to put 99.5% pure oxygen
> into my live well. Getting oxygen is as simple as going to Home Depot.
> I get ~24hrs out of each bottle, though the run-time would be
> significantly less if I was using it in the air. I've got all the
> hardware to connect to the bottle, I just don't have a flow
> indicator/regulator to put inline.
>
> The attractive part is that you can dispose of your bottle once you're
> at the destination. If you run out on your road trip, you just have to
> stop by Lowes or Home Depot to pickup another bottle.
>
> I know it's not the perfect system. But at 10,000 feet in a rented
> airplane, it could be a very convenient solution for the once-a-year
> long cross county. We're not talking about unreasonably high altitudes
> and this is just a simple way to get some supplemental oxygen for a very
> reasonable price tag.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* RV Builder (Michael Sausen) [mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:12 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Homebrew O2 System
>
> Hmm, short of something goofy with a scuba tank I cant think of
> anything that wouldnt be more complicated or expensive than a portable
> system. I would give some serious consideration to something from
> Aerox, Skyox, or someone similar.
>
>
>
> http://www.aerox.com/portable.html
>
> http://www.skyox.com/
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Perry, Phil
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:28 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Homebrew O2 System
>
>
>
> I live around 32' MSL and we're getting ready to head to the mountains
> in a few weeks. Needless to say, my body has become very acclimated to
> high levels of oxygen.
>
>
>
> This past weekend I spent 1.5 hrs at 10,000ft and I felt like I had been
> hit in the forehead with a baseball bat. I just can't stay at 10K for
> too long, by body won't allow it.
>
>
>
> Armed with that knowledge, I'm looking at getting supplemental oxygen
> for the trip. Have any of you built your own O2 system?
>
>
>
> I've been trying to come up with a design that will work, but I need to
> make sure the flow rates are correct.
>
>
>
> If you've built one, how'd you do it?
>
>
>
> Phil
>
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| Subject: | Re: Homebrew O2 System |
Perriair is the only cheap portable system I know of. =0Ahttp://burrowowl.
net/shimmie/view.php?image_id=6053=0A=0A =0AIf it's good enough for Mel B
rooks it must be good for us. =0ADo not achive=0A=0AScott Schmidt=0A=0A=0A
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demand conservers save=0Atons of O2 over what a constant flow system uses,
and they=0Arequire no electricity, so you're not dependent on anything.=0A
But really, I think that a built-in O2 system really is something=0Athat I'
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place...=0Athe tail. I find that I only bring the O2 kit along on maybe
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=0A> On the simple home brew side, I was thinking along the lines of using
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x200/7258841.JPG=0A> =0A> I've got a system in my boat that allows me to p
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=0A> Phil=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> --------------------
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8, 2008 1:12 PM=0A> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com=0A> *Subject:* RE: RV10-L
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tank I can=A2t think of =0A> anything that wouldn=A2t be more complicated
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| Subject: | Homebrew O2 System |
If cost is the primary concern=2C Areox has a refilling system that allow y
ou to refill their portable systems for much less that FBO prices. The savi
ngs on refilling will easily pay for a certified system.
Vern (#324 finishing)
do not archive
Re: RV10-List: Homebrew O2 SystemTo: rv10-list@matronics.com
Perriair is the only cheap portable system I know of. http://burrowowl.net
/shimmie/view.php?image_id=6053
If it's good enough for Mel Brooks it must be good for us. Do not achiveSc
ott Schmidt
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Anyone have a picture of the "tabbed" one from Van's completely
installed?
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From: Dawson-Townsend,Timothy<mailto:tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:12 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Cowl pins
Are folks using "stock" side cowl pins, or the "tabbed" ones that
Van's has ?
Tim Dawson-Townsend
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Tabbed ones and they work great.
Chris
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From: Roger Standley
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cowl pins
Anyone have a picture of the "tabbed" one from Van's completely
installed?
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To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:12 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Cowl pins
Are folks using "stock" side cowl pins, or the "tabbed" ones that
Van's has ?
Tim Dawson-Townsend
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I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 2
service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon
serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections @ 5
hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been some
chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be bigger
than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively short
time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing a
mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious as
to the extent this problem has been seen in the community. What are
people experiencing/hearing?
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Homebrew O2 System |
I have yet to fly with my O2 system but a simple built in is not that
expensive, out of the way and very functional. I don't recall what my
costs were for parts (SNF Discount) but it was not that much more than
cobbling something together . To mitigate some of the W&B issues you can
go with a much smaller bottle. Refilling on the field with a remote
filler (pictured) is simple. I have yet to place the user side
receptacles but two plus the valve/gauge will probably be facing forward
on the center console map box and the two rear pax on the back side of
the map box. My other option was in the OH console.
http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/aeroxO2.htm
Out west I guess we do a lot more mid-altitude flying and having O2 at
night above 5,000 MSL is a real eye opener.
The other day in my 6A I was on my regular commute but had to scud run
out of my home field due to the fires in CA. I knew there was a BIG
opening 40 miles south where I could climb to my regular 7.5K. In
another 40 miles after he opening I ran into a wall of smoke and had to
pop up to 11.5. (Yes I did call WX-Brief) I was at 11.5 for about 30
minutes before descending to my destination. I don't know about you but
anytime I am at altitude I keep asking myself..."Am I thinking clearly,
am I thinking clearly" No different than my deep scuba days. Sure would
have been nice to dial up the O2 to eliminate that concern.
Robin
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I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of
the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed
a huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his
plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it
go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's
a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Deems Davis wrote:
>
> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 2
> service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon
> serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections @ 5
> hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been some
> chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be bigger
> than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively short
> time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing a
> mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious as
> to the extent this problem has been seen in the community. What are
> people experiencing/hearing?
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
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I have attached copies of the two service bulletins from Slick for review.
Chuck Henry
#40806
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: RV10-List: SLICK MAGs
I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued 2
service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon
serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections @ 5
hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been some
chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be bigger
than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively short
time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing a
mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious as
to the extent this problem has been seen in the community. What are
people experiencing/hearing?
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | GADAHRS mounting angle? |
Hey all -
I'm mounting my Pinpoint GADAHRS and the instructions say that you need
to mount the unit with the pitot/static side perpendicular or parallel
to the centerline of the aircraft, which is easy enough. What I'm
wondering about is if the unit needs to be mounted so that it's level
with the aircraft in flight or otherwise. No mention of that in the
install manual, but if i'm going to set the angle of the unit, the time
is now. Anyone got any info?
thanks in advance for any help!
cj
#40410
slowly being driven bananas by building what resembles an airplane
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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The cap failed on my Bendix mag @ 50 hours, could be a product wide problem.
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued
> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon
> serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections @ 5
> hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been some
> chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be bigger
> than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively short
> time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing
> a mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious
> as to the extent this problem has been seen in the community. What
> are people experiencing/hearing?
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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I knew nothing about this SB until Deems' email - thanks for the heads
up!!
Since my engine ex Vans was shipped mid last year, I expect that I will
have two problematic mags that need treatment. With luck and since they
have not been used, I may be able to have them replaced under warranty.
I have never pulled a mag apart before and have little clue about what
may be involved to perform these inspections. Can anyone shed any light
on basic mag maintenance, or provide a pointer to the relevant Slick
docs (eg L1363)?
I thought I was almost finished, but with 2 Vans SBs, one on the
Injector servo and now this, I doubt I will ever get there and wonder
what I've gotten myself into.
Ron
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SLICK MAGs
I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of the
mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed a
huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his plane,
but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it go out up
there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's a
disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Deems Davis wrote:
>
> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued
> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon
> serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections @ 5
> hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been some
> chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be bigger
> than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively short
> time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing
> a mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious
> as to the extent this problem has been seen in the community. What
> are people experiencing/hearing?
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
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If I read the SB's correctly (that's a bif IF). the 1st one which
contains the most restrictive and more frequent inspection cycles has a
narrower serial number range. The implication is that this issue is
related to more recent production (say within the last couple of years.
However, the second SB, essentially broadens the serial number range,
but makes the inspection cycle somewhat less onerous for the earlier
produced units. I didn't know of Wayne's incident, but that's the 2n'd
RV-10 with a mag failure that I've heard of with relatively few hours on
the mag/s
Deems
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of
> the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed
> a huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
> Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his
> plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it
> go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
> I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
> history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's
> a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
>>
>> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
>> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued
>> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending
>> upon serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections
>> @ 5 hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been
>> some chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be
>> bigger than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively
>> short time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10
>> experiencing a mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's
>> flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the
>> community. What are people experiencing/hearing?
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>
>
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I'm hoping the Kelly McMullen , John Cox, or Pat Thysen will chime in
here on this, and shed some A&P insight. Some of the other lists have
chatter that's pretty critical towards Unison.
Deems
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of
> the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed
> a huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
> Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his
> plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it
> go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
> I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
> history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's
> a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
>>
>> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
>> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued
>> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending
>> upon serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections
>> @ 5 hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been
>> some chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be
>> bigger than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively
>> short time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10
>> experiencing a mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's
>> flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the
>> community. What are people experiencing/hearing?
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>
>
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Ron,
Now I feel awful when I goofed you about "almost being done."
Sorry, you will get there we have no doubts.
I asked someone from the RV list to cross post his info on
inspection of his mags. Worth reading.
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: SLICK MAGs
<ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
I knew nothing about this SB until Deems' email - thanks for the heads
up!!
Since my engine ex Vans was shipped mid last year, I expect that I will
have two problematic mags that need treatment. With luck and since they
have not been used, I may be able to have them replaced under warranty.
I have never pulled a mag apart before and have little clue about what
may be involved to perform these inspections. Can anyone shed any light
on basic mag maintenance, or provide a pointer to the relevant Slick
docs (eg L1363)?
I thought I was almost finished, but with 2 Vans SBs, one on the
Injector servo and now this, I doubt I will ever get there and wonder
what I've gotten myself into.
Ron
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SLICK MAGs
I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of the
mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed a
huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his plane,
but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it go out up
there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's a
disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued
> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending upon
> serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections @ 5
> hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been some
> chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be bigger
> than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively short
> time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing
> a mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious
> as to the extent this problem has been seen in the community. What
> are people experiencing/hearing?
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
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