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1. 12:30 AM - Re: SLICK MAGs (David McNeill)
2. 04:32 AM - Re: GADAHRS mounting angle? (Tim Olson)
3. 04:35 AM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Tim Olson)
4. 05:06 AM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Sam Marlow)
5. 06:13 AM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Wayne Edgerton)
6. 07:38 AM - Fw: SLICK MAGs (Wayne Edgerton)
7. 07:38 AM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Kelly McMullen)
8. 07:49 AM - Fw: SB list of missing builders (pascal)
9. 08:15 AM - Re: Fw: SLICK MAGs (Kelly McMullen)
10. 10:08 AM - Re: Fw: SB list of missing builders (pascal)
11. 10:09 AM - FW: Slick L-1363 (David McNeill)
12. 10:49 AM - SBs slick mags (David McNeill)
13. 11:07 AM - Re: Fw: SB list of missing builders (Sean Stephens)
14. 11:15 AM - Duckworks HIDs ()
15. 11:48 AM - Re: Duckworks HIDs (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
16. 02:19 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Sam Marlow)
17. 04:22 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
18. 06:37 PM - Re: FW: Slick L-1363 (John Cox)
19. 06:37 PM - Re: billet door guide fasteners (Jay Rowe)
20. 07:06 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Robin Marks)
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One of the things to note is that the 0409xxxx series seem to be the retard
breaker mags and the 0408xxxx seem to be the non retard breaker mags.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SLICK MAGs
I'm hoping the Kelly McMullen , John Cox, or Pat Thysen will chime in here
on this, and shed some A&P insight. Some of the other lists have chatter
that's pretty critical towards Unison.
Deems
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of the
> mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed a
> huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
> Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his
> plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it go out
> up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
> I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
> history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's a
> disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
>>
>> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
>> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued
>> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending
>> upon serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections
>> @ 5 hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been
>> some chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be
>> bigger than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively
>> short time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10
>> experiencing a mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's
>> flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the
>> community. What are people experiencing/hearing?
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GADAHRS mounting angle? |
It would be nice to try to mount it as level as is easy in
pitch, but the calibration program will take care of the
leveling in it's leveling procedure, so just align it level
in roll and near the centerline and the pitch can be taken
care of during calibration. Also, you can mount it with the
pitot/static lines forward or aft, because in calibration
you tell it which way they are facing. It's very flexible.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Chris Johnston wrote:
> Hey all -
>
> I'm mounting my Pinpoint GADAHRS and the instructions say that you
> need to mount the unit with the pitot/static side perpendicular or
> parallel to the centerline of the aircraft, which is easy enough.
> What I'm wondering about is if the unit needs to be mounted so that
> it's level with the aircraft in flight or otherwise. No mention of
> that in the install manual, but if i'm going to set the angle of the
> unit, the time is now. Anyone got any info?
>
> thanks in advance for any help!
>
> cj #40410 slowly being driven bananas by building what resembles an
> airplane www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
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Yeah, and lucky me, after seeing your post I went back digging
for the SB's and saw the 2nd one, which DOES incorporate my
mag. The nice thing is, I have over 250 hours, which puts
me at a less frequent inspection timing.....but it still doesn't
give me lots of warm fuzzies. The real big thing that DOES
give me warm fuzzies is that I have a Lightspeed unit, so even
if my mag fails, my LSE should be working good....but hopefully
the mag timing isn't so far off if the mag fails that it
makes the engine run bad.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> If I read the SB's correctly (that's a bif IF). the 1st one which
> contains the most restrictive and more frequent inspection cycles has a
> narrower serial number range. The implication is that this issue is
> related to more recent production (say within the last couple of years.
> However, the second SB, essentially broadens the serial number range,
> but makes the inspection cycle somewhat less onerous for the earlier
> produced units. I didn't know of Wayne's incident, but that's the 2n'd
> RV-10 with a mag failure that I've heard of with relatively few hours on
> the mag/s
>
> Deems
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of
>> the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed
>> a huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
>> Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his
>> plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it
>> go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
>> I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
>> history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's
>> a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Deems Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
>>> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued
>>> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending
>>> upon serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections
>>> @ 5 hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been
>>> some chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be
>>> bigger than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively
>>> short time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10
>>> experiencing a mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's
>>> flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the
>>> community. What are people experiencing/hearing?
>>>
>>> Deems Davis # 406
>>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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I also have a Lightspeed unit on the right, (top) side, and when my mag
failed, I experienced no noticeable difference in engine operation.
Until the next preflight run!
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Yeah, and lucky me, after seeing your post I went back digging
> for the SB's and saw the 2nd one, which DOES incorporate my
> mag. The nice thing is, I have over 250 hours, which puts
> me at a less frequent inspection timing.....but it still doesn't
> give me lots of warm fuzzies. The real big thing that DOES
> give me warm fuzzies is that I have a Lightspeed unit, so even
> if my mag fails, my LSE should be working good....but hopefully
> the mag timing isn't so far off if the mag fails that it
> makes the engine run bad.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
>>
>> If I read the SB's correctly (that's a bif IF). the 1st one which
>> contains the most restrictive and more frequent inspection cycles has
>> a narrower serial number range. The implication is that this issue is
>> related to more recent production (say within the last couple of
>> years. However, the second SB, essentially broadens the serial number
>> range, but makes the inspection cycle somewhat less onerous for the
>> earlier produced units. I didn't know of Wayne's incident, but that's
>> the 2n'd RV-10 with a mag failure that I've heard of with relatively
>> few hours on the mag/s
>>
>> Deems
>>
>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>>
>>> I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of
>>> the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed
>>> a huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
>>> Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his
>>> plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it
>>> go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
>>> I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
>>> history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's
>>> a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> Deems Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
>>>> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has
>>>> issued 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions.
>>>> depending upon serial number applicability, they require recurrent
>>>> inspections @ 5 hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals.
>>>> There has been some chatter on VAF about this, however the
>>>> problem seems to be bigger than reported, with several magnetos
>>>> failing at relatively short time in service durations. I
>>>> recently heard of an RV-10 experiencing a mag failure @ 50 hours .
>>>> With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm curious as to the extent this
>>>> problem has been seen in the community. What are people
>>>> experiencing/hearing?
>>>>
>>>> Deems Davis # 406
>>>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>>>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Thought I would chime in on the Slick mag issue since I'm the recipient
of one of their failures. On June 21st I left TX starting on a flying
trip up to and through Alaska that ended this last Sunday July 6th back
in TX. When I was in Anchorage getting ready to head to Ketchican I had
my right mag fail. I don't mean run rough it completely drop off the
earth and went to mag heaven. I don't know the technical term but
basically the lobe on the cam in the mag that lifts the points to allow
them to open was completely worn off, they call it the breaker point
cam. I'm sure all of you already know this but it's Lycoming Service
Bulletin 583 & 584 dated June 3rd.
I have the Lasar system so I had that plus the left mag remaining so if
I had been where there was no repair station I still had some options
left to me. At the time of failure I had about 165 hours on the engine.
I was lucky and found a great shop on the field in Anchorage to work on
my problem, Aero Twin. These guys were probably this best group I've
ever worked with. I was flying with 12 other planes that had to go on
without me and the shop was trying their damndest to get me back in the
air so I could catch up with the group. They even worked through their
lunch hour to get me back in the air. Great bunch of guys.
My first problem was finding a mag, since as all of you know that
electronic ignition isn't widely used and available for general
aviation. So the shop manager was able to talk to Joe at Unison and he
over nighted me a new mag. The mag that he sent me is under their same
service bulletin as the one that was being replace, since they really
don't have a know fix yet, that I'm aware of. So I've just traded a bad
problem for a known problem. Sue at Aero Sport told me that probably all
Slick mags from 2004 on are affected. Isn't this amazing, they've been
making these parts forever and they find someone who will make them for
$3 less and we end up with their mess because of this.
My second problem came when the shop didn't have the Lasar timing tool.
I called Unison and he didn't have any available to send me with the mag
and I then called Aero Sport Power, Sue, who I had been communicating
with on this, and she had one but they had a Canadian holiday this next
day and couldn't get it to me. I ended up calling my friend Steve Gross
who hangars his RV6 in my hangar, and he overnighted me my timing tool.
I thought this was kind of a funny statement, but maybe not, Joe from
Unison said I should always carry my timing tool with me in the plane.
Boy that's confidence don't you think! Oh well.
Anyway I was able to get back up and running and was able to catch up
with the group in Ketchican, so I guess the saying is all's well that
ends well. I guess for now :>}
If any of you have any interest in seeing some of the Alaskan photos
that we took I created a blog for my grandkids where I made a daily
posting
triptoalaska2008.blogspot.com
Actually with the lack of WIFI at one location and this mag failure I
got behind a little but I'm trying to get it caught back up know. At the
very bottom of the blog is a daily folder of all the photos we took.
There is some pretty interesting country side in Alaska for those of you
who haven't been there.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
Time: 07:54:09 PM PST US
From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Subject: SLICK MAGs
I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has
issued 2
service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending
upon
serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections @
5
hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been
some
chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be
bigger
than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively
short
time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10
experiencing a
mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm
curious as
to the extent this problem has been seen in the community. What
are
people experiencing/hearing?
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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By the way I forgot to mention that I lost a mag on my first flight, so
this is the second mag that I've lost. Makes a guy feel warm and fuzzy
huh!
Wayne edgerton N602WT
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SLICK MAGs
Thought I would chime in on the Slick mag issue since I'm the recipient
of one of their failures. On June 21st I left TX starting on a flying
trip up to and through Alaska that ended this last Sunday July 6th back
in TX. When I was in Anchorage getting ready to head to Ketchican I had
my right mag fail. I don't mean run rough it completely drop off the
earth and went to mag heaven. I don't know the technical term but
basically the lobe on the cam in the mag that lifts the points to allow
them to open was completely worn off, they call it the breaker point
cam. I'm sure all of you already know this but it's Lycoming Service
Bulletin 583 & 584 dated June 3rd.
I have the Lasar system so I had that plus the left mag remaining so if
I had been where there was no repair station I still had some options
left to me. At the time of failure I had about 165 hours on the engine.
I was lucky and found a great shop on the field in Anchorage to work on
my problem, Aero Twin. These guys were probably this best group I've
ever worked with. I was flying with 12 other planes that had to go on
without me and the shop was trying their damndest to get me back in the
air so I could catch up with the group. They even worked through their
lunch hour to get me back in the air. Great bunch of guys.
My first problem was finding a mag, since as all of you know that
electronic ignition isn't widely used and available for general
aviation. So the shop manager was able to talk to Joe at Unison and he
over nighted me a new mag. The mag that he sent me is under their same
service bulletin as the one that was being replace, since they really
don't have a know fix yet, that I'm aware of. So I've just traded a bad
problem for a known problem. Sue at Aero Sport told me that probably all
Slick mags from 2004 on are affected. Isn't this amazing, they've been
making these parts forever and they find someone who will make them for
$3 less and we end up with their mess because of this.
My second problem came when the shop didn't have the Lasar timing tool.
I called Unison and he didn't have any available to send me with the mag
and I then called Aero Sport Power, Sue, who I had been communicating
with on this, and she had one but they had a Canadian holiday this next
day and couldn't get it to me. I ended up calling my friend Steve Gross
who hangars his RV6 in my hangar, and he overnighted me my timing tool.
I thought this was kind of a funny statement, but maybe not, Joe from
Unison said I should always carry my timing tool with me in the plane.
Boy that's confidence don't you think! Oh well.
Anyway I was able to get back up and running and was able to catch up
with the group in Ketchican, so I guess the saying is all's well that
ends well. I guess for now :>}
If any of you have any interest in seeing some of the Alaskan photos
that we took I created a blog for my grandkids where I made a daily
posting
triptoalaska2008.blogspot.com
Actually with the lack of WIFI at one location and this mag failure I
got behind a little but I'm trying to get it caught back up know. At the
very bottom of the blog is a daily folder of all the photos we took.
There is some pretty interesting country side in Alaska for those of you
who haven't been there.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
Time: 07:54:09 PM PST US
From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Subject: SLICK MAGs
I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has
issued 2
service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending
upon
serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections @
5
hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been
some
chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be
bigger
than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively
short
time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10
experiencing a
mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's flying I'm
curious as
to the extent this problem has been seen in the community. What
are
people experiencing/hearing?
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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A Bendix mag is very different than a Slick and generally is very
reliable. Slick has had its ups and downs. Mainly use of forms of
plastic that aren't as heat resistant as needed.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Sam Marlow <sam@fr8dog.net> wrote:
>
> The cap failed on my Bendix mag @ 50 hours, could be a product wide problem.
>
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| Subject: | Fw: SB list of missing builders |
RV-10 SERVICE BULLETIN
As of June 21, we had shipped service bulletin SB 08-6-01 to every RV-10
builder in our files.
For several customer numbers, we had no current address or owner
information. If you have, or know who has, kit numbers in the
accompanying table, please give us the information.
Customer Builder of Record
40005 G. Nus
40014 R. Conti
40039 B. Schulz
40083 J. James
40114 D. Forrest
40149 I. Jackson
40151 L. Dalbeck
40167 M. Lamon
40179 T. Aytur
40259 D. Allen
40287 A. Clark
40303 S. Stephens
40347 M. Cupitt
40361 R. Lacourse
40436 M. Drury
40755 A. Dee
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Makes one want to specify a Bendix mag or two when buying from one of
our favorite specialty engine shops, eh?
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e@grandecom.net> wrote:
> By the way I forgot to mention that I lost a mag on my first flight, so this
> is the second mag that I've lost. Makes a guy feel warm and fuzzy huh!
>
> Wayne edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: SB list of missing builders |
My apologies.
This was sent by Van's I was forwarding per the RVaviator.
http://doc.vansaircraft.com/RVator/Download_rvator.htm
Pascal
From: pascal
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:45 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fw: SB list of missing builders
RV-10 SERVICE BULLETIN
As of June 21, we had shipped service bulletin SB 08-6-01 to every RV-10
builder in our files.
For several customer numbers, we had no current address or owner
information. If you have, or know who has, kit numbers in the
accompanying table, please give us the information.
Customer Builder of Record
40005 G. Nus
40014 R. Conti
40039 B. Schulz
40083 J. James
40114 D. Forrest
40149 I. Jackson
40151 L. Dalbeck
40167 M. Lamon
40179 T. Aytur
40259 D. Allen
40287 A. Clark
40303 S. Stephens
40347 M. Cupitt
40361 R. Lacourse
40436 M. Drury
40755 A. Dee
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| Subject: | FW: Slick L-1363 |
FYI
_____
From: Logie, Joe (Unison, US) [mailto:Joe.Logie@unisonindustries.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:56 AM
Subject: Slick L-1363
<<L-1363C_Mag_Overhaul.pdf>>
Joe Logie
Unison
Product Support Engineer - Piston Products
T 904 739 4081 Piston Help Line
F 904 739 4006
C 904 739 4068
D *204 4068
E joe.logie@unisonindustries.com
<file://www.unisonindustries.com> www.unisonindustries.com
7575 Baymeadows Way
Jacksonville, FL 32256 USA
Unison Industries LLC
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I spoke to the tech rep and found that their are two failure modes. The mag
numbers 0409 are manufactured ninth month of 2004 etc. The bonded brushes
introduced in 2006 have a failure mode of hours. The failure mode of 2004
mags are perhaps hundreds of hours. the 2006 mags were introduced to try and
get rid of the failure mode of the 2004 mags. The cases of failures are very
few, mostly ( or all?) 2006 mags. He used the CYA term associated with the
2004 mags. Another interesting fact is that the rated temps for these
appliances is 185F. Oil door should be left open to clear heat from engine
after flight if able. Blast tubes are advisable. He will be at OSH if you
have further questions. He mentioned that as experimentals we were not
required to do these inspections; but I assured him that we like to keep the
fan running as well as the certified crowd.
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: SB list of missing builders |
Scratch 40303 off the list. I moved recently and have updated contact
info with Vans. Not yet back at it, but itchin' to be.
On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:06 PM, pascal wrote:
> My apologies.
> This was sent by Van's I was forwarding per the RVaviator. http://doc.vansaircraft.com/RVator/Download_rvator.htm
> Pascal
>
>
> From: pascal
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:45 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Fw: SB list of missing builders
>
> RV-10 SERVICE BULLETIN
> As of June 21, we had shipped service bulletin SB 08-6-01 to every
> RV-10 builder in our files.
>
> For several customer numbers, we had no current address or owner
> information. If you have, or know who has, kit numbers in the
> accompanying table, please give us the information.
>
> Customer Builder of Record
>
> 40005 G. Nus
>
> 40014 R. Conti
>
> 40039 B. Schulz
>
> 40083 J. James
>
> 40114 D. Forrest
>
> 40149 I. Jackson
>
> 40151 L. Dalbeck
>
> 40167 M. Lamon
>
> 40179 T. Aytur
>
> 40259 D. Allen
>
> 40287 A. Clark
>
> 40303 S. Stephens
>
> 40347 M. Cupitt
>
> 40361 R. Lacourse
>
> 40436 M. Drury
>
> 40755 A. Dee
>
>
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Anyone know why Vans has discontinued the Duckworks HIDs?
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More margin from a different vendor or low sales would be my guess.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv@thelefflers.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Duckworks HIDs
Anyone know why Vans has discontinued the Duckworks HIDs?
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That's what I thought to, until I read this last post, describing how
the points failed. It described my failure exactly.
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> A Bendix mag is very different than a Slick and generally is very
> reliable. Slick has had its ups and downs. Mainly use of forms of
> plastic that aren't as heat resistant as needed.
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Sam Marlow <sam@fr8dog.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> The cap failed on my Bendix mag @ 50 hours, could be a product wide problem.
>>
>>
>
>
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Guys:
As a reminder, the corrected copy of the SB contains the applicable serial
numbers that are affected.
grumpy
N184JM
In a message dated 7/9/2008 6:36:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Yeah, and lucky me, after seeing your post I went back digging
for the SB's and saw the 2nd one, which DOES incorporate my
mag. The nice thing is, I have over 250 hours, which puts
me at a less frequent inspection timing.....but it still doesn't
give me lots of warm fuzzies. The real big thing that DOES
give me warm fuzzies is that I have a Lightspeed unit, so even
if my mag fails, my LSE should be working good....but hopefully
the mag timing isn't so far off if the mag fails that it
makes the engine run bad.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Deems Davis wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>
> If I read the SB's correctly (that's a bif IF). the 1st one which
> contains the most restrictive and more frequent inspection cycles has a
> narrower serial number range. The implication is that this issue is
> related to more recent production (say within the last couple of years.
> However, the second SB, essentially broadens the serial number range,
> but makes the inspection cycle somewhat less onerous for the earlier
> produced units. I didn't know of Wayne's incident, but that's the 2n'd
> RV-10 with a mag failure that I've heard of with relatively few hours on
> the mag/s
>
> Deems
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> I checked my s/n this weekend (didn't do an internal inspection of
>> the mag) and found that mine is before the S/N's listed, so I breathed
>> a huge sigh of relief. But, I just heard of our pal Wayne up in
>> Alaska...y'all know him, and he hasn't had THAT many hours on his
>> plane, but I guess his mag was one affected and he just had it
>> go out up there....sounds like it was just a wreck inside.
>> I don't know what the heck Unison did...would be nice to know the
>> history, but it sure sounds like if you're in that s/n range, it's
>> a disaster waiting to happen....so I'd keep close tabs on it.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Deems Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> I recently became aware of what appears to be a developing and
>>> potentially significant problem. Slick (Unison industries) has issued
>>> 2 service bulletins for their Mags and LASAR ignitions. depending
>>> upon serial number applicability, they require recurrent inspections
>>> @ 5 hours of ops and then at 15-20 hour intervals. There has been
>>> some chatter on VAF about this, however the problem seems to be
>>> bigger than reported, with several magnetos failing at relatively
>>> short time in service durations. I recently heard of an RV-10
>>> experiencing a mag failure @ 50 hours . With nearly 150 RV-10's
>>> flying I'm curious as to the extent this problem has been seen in the
>>> community. What are people experiencing/hearing?
>>>
>>> Deems Davis # 406
>>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>>> _http://deemsrv10.com/_ (http://deemsrv10.com/)
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| Subject: | FW: Slick L-1363 |
David, I had it and did not think to post it. Valuable and Timely.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: FW: Slick L-1363
FYI
________________________________
From: Logie, Joe (Unison, US) [mailto:Joe.Logie@unisonindustries.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:56 AM
Subject: Slick L-1363
<<L-1363C_Mag_Overhaul.pdf>>
Joe Logie
Unison
Product Support Engineer - Piston Products
T 904 739 4081 Piston Help Line
F 904 739 4006
C 904 739 4068
D *204 4068
E joe.logie@unisonindustries.com
www.unisonindustries.com <file:///\\www.unisonindustries.com>
7575 Baymeadows Way
Jacksonville, FL 32256 USA
Unison Industries LLC
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| Subject: | Re: billet door guide fasteners |
Thanks Steve for the info and equipment upgrade. Jay Rowe, 151 North
Shore Lane, Winthrop, ME 04364
----- Original Message -----
From: steve dinieri
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:20 PM
Subject: RV10-List: billet door guide fasteners
hi all,
another lister who bought some of my door guides brought up a good
point. he was concerned about the attach screws that I use and their
strength, and more importantly the quality ( consistency ). I buy most
hardware from mcmaster carr , and after a little searching found a
stainless fastener of the same size but mil spec and rated at 80k
tensile strength. I'm switching to this screw and am inviting all who
bought door guides to drop me an email with your address and I'll send
out the new hardware. sorry I don't keep personal info after the sale...
Steven DiNieri
iflyrv10.com
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I am the proud owner of two brand spanking new defective SLICK Mag's
that are covered under the SB. Gezzz another thing to worry about on
First Flight.
Robin
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