RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 07/12/08


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 04:45 AM - Re: Fuel Bracket Orientation of Holes (nukeflyboy)
     2. 07:31 AM - Re: Re: Homebrew O2 System (Marcus Cooper)
     3. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: Homebrew O2 System (Marcus Cooper)
     4. 03:51 PM - OSH mosquitos (Deems Davis)
     5. 04:40 PM - Re: SLICK MAGs (Rick Sked)
     6. 06:04 PM - Builder in Wichita, KS (Bruce Snyder)
     7. 06:31 PM - Soundproofing - glue or not? (Lenny Iszak)
     8. 07:44 PM - Re: Soundproofing - glue or not? (William Curtis)
     9. 09:24 PM - Re: Soundproofing - glue or not? (Scott Schmidt)
    10. 11:04 PM - Re: Soundproofing - glue or not? (Robin Marks)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:45:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Bracket Orientation of Holes
    From: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>
    Thanks for the replys. Dave - I think you are right. After looking at the photo and the plans carefully, it seems that it doesn't matter. It will work in either orientation. The plug just needs to be on the other side (to block the unused port). Flipping it upside down will get the correct orientation, but the bracket will sit about an inch lower, so that is ruled out. The Andair valve is really nice, but I am too cheap. Bottom line - it will work as found. The only loss is a little more hair from head scratching. -------- Dave RV-6 flying RV-10 QB building Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192370#192370


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    Time: 07:31:33 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Homebrew O2 System
    Bryan, This sounds pretty good. Do the medical bottles weigh any more than an aviation system? Marcus Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bryanflood Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:27 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Homebrew O2 System Hi guys, I use medical O2 tanks filled off a welding bottle. They are dirt cheap and so are the medical regulators which work great too, the only catch is that I have to use a conserving canula b/c I'm too cheap to spring for conserver on the regulator system. I probably have about 150 dollars in two tanks, a regulator, a tee, a flow meter and two canulas. The only difference on the medical tanks is they have a different thread and stem, although you can order them with the threads for the aviation stem if you want to spend more $. The transfill adapter was just over $100 and I get about 8 bottle fills be for my tank gets down to 1800 psi on $25 of O2. Each bottle seems to last someplace over 2 hours at 1lpm per person which I use above 12K. The one disadvantage to medical regulators is that I have to use a conversion chart for the flow rate but it's really easy. ANother is that refilling on a trip is harder b/c you need to bring an adapter to fit the filler at an FBO and pa! y upwards of $40 per tanks some places, a total rip. The tanks are so cheap to buy and fill you might as well pick up a few. If you don't already have a welding tank I guess you need to buy that too. -------- Rv-9A completed. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192358#192358


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    Time: 07:39:09 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Homebrew O2 System
    Bryan, This sounds pretty good. Do the medical bottles weigh any more than an aviation system? Marcus Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bryanflood Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:27 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Homebrew O2 System Hi guys, I use medical O2 tanks filled off a welding bottle. They are dirt cheap and so are the medical regulators which work great too, the only catch is that I have to use a conserving canula b/c I'm too cheap to spring for conserver on the regulator system. I probably have about 150 dollars in two tanks, a regulator, a tee, a flow meter and two canulas. The only difference on the medical tanks is they have a different thread and stem, although you can order them with the threads for the aviation stem if you want to spend more $. The transfill adapter was just over $100 and I get about 8 bottle fills be for my tank gets down to 1800 psi on $25 of O2. Each bottle seems to last someplace over 2 hours at 1lpm per person which I use above 12K. The one disadvantage to medical regulators is that I have to use a conversion chart for the flow rate but it's really easy. ANother is that refilling on a trip is harder b/c you need to bring an adapter to fit the filler at an FBO and pa! y upwards of $40 per tanks some places, a total rip. The tanks are so cheap to buy and fill you might as well pick up a few. If you don't already have a welding tank I guess you need to buy that too. -------- Rv-9A completed. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192358#192358


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    Time: 03:51:02 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: OSH mosquitos
    I just got a note from the lady who owns the home we stay @ OSH ea year, giving us a heads up on the mosquito situation. Apparently with all of the rain this year the bugs are BAD day and night, and she reported that there have been some local shortages in repellent reported. So a word to the wise is to come prepared with you own supply , and lots of it!! Deems Davis # 406 we don't got no stinking mosquitoes, but can I interest you in a scorpion???


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    Time: 04:40:46 PM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: SLICK MAGs
    Hey Patrick....what do you use for fire protection?...I think Deem's could use a little of that..I'm in the same boat..two brand new mags that fall in to the SB along with two other SB's on my emp kit, don't forget the VS SB, I have a ton invested in my aircraft and no hours but very close, I could f lame Garmin for dropping the 480...but=C2-you plays your money and you ta ke your risks...Jepp plans to continue support so all is not lost...there i s enough to gripe about without doing it to our group members...I learned " Gripe " from a very good friend...she would appreciate it in this situation . Is Gripe=C2-a Texas word? Actually when she says it almost sounds like Graap...but I know it means business!!=C2- :) Rick Sked=C2-=C2- AIC,ARM, CHST, CSM see I got alphabet soup too!! do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Thyssen" <jump2@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:25:33 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: Re: RV10-List: SLICK MAGs =C2-OK here's my take on slick mags. For the past 12 yrs I have basically used them anytime I can. My way of doing business is 500 hr inspection and at 1000=C2- get new ones. I have not had any failures. I just ask how mu ch is a night cought out and out of town repairs worth to you? =C2-Go and ask the fish spotters ,Who flies 10-12 hrs days,what they do. They put more hrs on a plane then any of us. =C2-My customers have heeded what I preach and seems okay since most fly IFR and do not need the hassles. =C2-Now you can complain all you want about them but I'll continue to use them for all applications I can. Heck I have a engine Overhauled and had 1 .5 hrs on the cylinders, I=C2-had to get 6 new ones. My fuel system has a n AD. My tail sections had a major service bulletin. My crossbow has had tw o revisions. All this and don't have a hr on the aircraft. =C2-I'll be pulling two aircraft down in the next week to look at them an d see what's going on. I had the 500 hr inspectins done 375 hrs ago and the y changed points and whatever,One of the problems is, you reset timing last 100 hr and now they are off again 2-3 degrees but you can't remember how m uch they were off the last time. What do you do? =C2-I know what I'm going to do. I would have to say Normally I have to r eset timing once during the 500 hr, but I check it almost everytime I chang e oil. It doesn't take that long to do. =C2-So=C2-it doesn't have to be new mags but one that someone put parts in.=C2- I know=C2-I rambling but Deems asked for it. =C2-Patrick Thyssen=C2-=C2- AP/IA ATP will finish when I do - maybe sept. Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote: Not being within the serial number range, avoids the frequent inspection intervals, but it doesn't necessarily avoid the problem, I know of a couple of indicents where mags outside of the serial number range have gone belly up with 50 hours or less. Wayne, I suspect your 1st flight mag loss was one which had a serial number les than 610? As I understand the history, Unison knows they have a problem with their mags, and attempted to fix it with different parts, the new parts (reflected in the 0610xxxx thru 0804xxxx serial number range, didn't fix the problem, and apparently made it worse. I read a comment on another list where someone said they heard (heresay) from Unison that they hoped to have a fix in Aug ?!?!?) the beat goes on. Deems haggling with the painter William Curtis wrote: == ==== ======================= ===


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    Time: 06:04:51 PM PST US
    From: "Bruce Snyder" <snyderbd888@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Builder in Wichita, KS
    Are there any builders in Wichita, KS? I'll be out there all next week and will have plenty of free time in the evenings to talk or help with a project. Contact me off list if interested. Bruce Snyder 40353 Finish Kit Do not archive


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    Time: 06:31:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Soundproofing - glue or not?
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    I'm about to lay down the soundproofing in the fuse. I bought the stuff from SoundEx. They recommend not to glue it to the skin. What did you guys use to secure it? Those baggage floor bays are pretty deep and I'm concerned that if I don't glue the sheets down they'll be tumbling around in there... Regards, Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192416#192416


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    Time: 07:44:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Soundproofing - glue or not?
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    Nope. Just cut it slightly larger so that it holds itself in. http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/08fuselage/fuselage35c.html William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > > I'm about to lay down the soundproofing in the fuse. I bought the stuff from SoundEx. They recommend not to glue it to the skin. > > What did you guys use to secure it? Those baggage floor bays are pretty deep and I'm concerned that if I don't glue the sheets down they'll be tumbling around in there... > > > Regards, > Lenny > #40803 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192416#192416


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    Time: 09:24:11 PM PST US
    From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Soundproofing - glue or not?
    I glued all mine down with sticky stuff but I also didn't use the stuff from SoundEx. I used the black closed cell foam from Aircraft Spruce. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stickystuff.php Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:28:57 PM Subject: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not? I'm about to lay down the soundproofing in the fuse. I bought the stuff from SoundEx. They recommend not to glue it to the skin. What did you guys use to secure it? Those baggage floor bays are pretty deep and I'm concerned that if I don't glue the sheets down they'll be tumbling around in there... Regards, Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192416#192416


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    Time: 11:04:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Soundproofing - glue or not?
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    I have not used any Dual lock on my plane but Dual Lock from 3M might be a good choice. You only need a small section in each corner to hold items in place. http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/electronics_mfg/esm/node_GSK76VTCV9g s/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_DPB1Q1MJ7Nge/bgel_RVL9645885bl/gvel_LPQT5P05BQ gl/theme_us_electronicsesm_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html The photo on the 3M site stinks. I call it Velcro on steroids. Basically interlocking mushroom shaped plastic heads that snap in & out of place. Reusable. Available in different widths, and a couple of different head count. I bet you can even pick up a sample at Staples but bulk purchases on eBay or the like are a better value. Heck Yes eBay is the way to go. 48" roll for $9.00. Item# 250266278240 Robin Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not? I glued all mine down with sticky stuff but I also didn't use the stuff from SoundEx. I used the black closed cell foam from Aircraft Spruce. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stickystuff.php Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:28:57 PM Subject: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?




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