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1. 07:04 AM - Re: Soundproofing - glue or not? (sean garrison)
2. 09:04 AM - Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (Tim Olson)
3. 09:43 AM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (rsipp)
4. 10:36 AM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (David McNeill)
5. 10:48 AM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (Sam Marlow)
6. 10:54 AM - Re: Soundproofing - glue or not? (John Cox)
7. 01:40 PM - Re: Soundproofing - glue or not? (Robert Wright)
8. 03:23 PM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (Jesse Saint)
9. 04:07 PM - Re: SB work (William Curtis)
10. 04:23 PM - Re: OSH mosquitos (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
11. 04:26 PM - Re: Re: SB work ()
12. 04:35 PM - Re: Soundproofing - glue or not? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
13. 04:39 PM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (Ted French)
14. 04:39 PM - Re: OSH mosquitos (Tim Olson)
15. 04:39 PM - Re: OSH mosquitos (Kelly McMullen)
16. 07:15 PM - Re: OSH mosquitos (John Cox)
17. 07:34 PM - Re: OSH mosquitos (Dave Leikam)
18. 10:01 PM - Re: OSH mosquitoes (Les Kearney)
19. 10:10 PM - Re: OSH mosquitos (Scott Schmidt)
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Subject: | Soundproofing - glue or not? |
Has anyone thought of using Fat Mat or Dynamat it has a self adhesive
backing and the temp range takes it to 0F to 150F.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
I have not used any Dual lock on my plane but Dual Lock from 3M might be a
good choice. You only need a small section in each corner to hold items in
place.
http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/electronics_mfg/esm/node_GSK76VTCV9gs/ro
ot_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_DPB1Q1MJ7Nge/bgel_RVL9645885bl/gvel_LPQT5P05BQgl/theme
_us_electronicsesm_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html
The photo on the 3M site stinks. I call it Velcro on steroids. Basically
interlocking mushroom shaped plastic heads that snap in & out of place.
Reusable. Available in different widths, and a couple of different head
count. I bet you can even pick up a sample at Staples but bulk purchases on
eBay or the like are a better value.
https://www.fastenation.com/siteImages/small/15.jpg
Heck Yes eBay is the way to go. 48" roll for $9.00. Item# 250266278240
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
I glued all mine down with sticky stuff but I also didn't use the stuff from
SoundEx.
I used the black closed cell foam from Aircraft Spruce.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stickystuff.php
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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From: Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:28:57 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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Subject: | Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? |
I'm interested for a couple of reasons in finding out who is
flying their RV-10 into OSH this year, and what days they
plan to arrive and depart.
One reason it to give Jeff a heads up for space, and the
other reason is for a little video/photo project I may
undertake.
I'm sure the list is curious as well.
Sooooooo, who's going, and when?
I'm flying in either Friday night (preferred) before the show,
but definitely by Saturday noon, and then I likely will leave
either Friday or Saturday towards the end of the week.
I'll try to keep a tally so we have it in one email after
a bunch have reported.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Subject: | Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? |
Sipp N110DV:
Tentatively, day trip in Wednesday morning out after airshow, then back
Thursday morning staying until after airshow Sunday.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 12:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
>
> I'm interested for a couple of reasons in finding out who is
> flying their RV-10 into OSH this year, and what days they
> plan to arrive and depart.
>
> One reason it to give Jeff a heads up for space, and the
> other reason is for a little video/photo project I may
> undertake.
>
> I'm sure the list is curious as well.
>
> Sooooooo, who's going, and when?
>
> I'm flying in either Friday night (preferred) before the show,
> but definitely by Saturday noon, and then I likely will leave
> either Friday or Saturday towards the end of the week.
>
> I'll try to keep a tally so we have it in one email after
> a bunch have reported.
>
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
>
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Subject: | Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? |
N46007 will be first IFR reservation Thursday July 31 and depart first IFR
August 3.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
I'm interested for a couple of reasons in finding out who is flying their
RV-10 into OSH this year, and what days they plan to arrive and depart.
One reason it to give Jeff a heads up for space, and the other reason is for
a little video/photo project I may undertake.
I'm sure the list is curious as well.
Sooooooo, who's going, and when?
I'm flying in either Friday night (preferred) before the show, but
definitely by Saturday noon, and then I likely will leave either Friday or
Saturday towards the end of the week.
I'll try to keep a tally so we have it in one email after a bunch have
reported.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? |
We'll be there the 27th through the 29th.
Sam & Dan
N540MR
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I'm interested for a couple of reasons in finding out who is
> flying their RV-10 into OSH this year, and what days they
> plan to arrive and depart.
>
> One reason it to give Jeff a heads up for space, and the
> other reason is for a little video/photo project I may
> undertake.
>
> I'm sure the list is curious as well.
>
> Sooooooo, who's going, and when?
>
> I'm flying in either Friday night (preferred) before the show,
> but definitely by Saturday noon, and then I likely will leave
> either Friday or Saturday towards the end of the week.
>
> I'll try to keep a tally so we have it in one email after
> a bunch have reported.
>
>
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Subject: | Soundproofing - glue or not? |
You may find the cohesive quality of the product to itself exceeds the
construction strength of the insulation covering. It may require
replacement of insulation down the road.
The issue of not using any glue is a good one. The objective should be
the regular removal for inspection for corrosion at each Conditional
with the ability to re-apply the insulation on reassembly. We use Orcon
insulating blankets (in our fleet) which are laid in, easy to remove and
easy to reinstall. The only unfortunate issue is the wicking of
moisture and keeping the insulation dry through the life of the
aircraft. Hardcoat and adhesive obstruction a quality inspection.
8:30AM Monday - Dan Newland (formerly of Orcon) is speaking on
"Practical Reductions of Aircraft Noise" in the 09 Honda pavilion at
OSH. Dan wrote an article on the subject for Sport Aviation a couple of
years ago that I posted to the archives.
Don't forget thermal as well as acoustic qualities. Moisture kills the
thermal characteristics.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sean garrison
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:56 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
Has anyone thought of using Fat Mat or Dynamat it has a self adhesive
backing and the temp range takes it to 0F to 150F.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
I have not used any Dual lock on my plane but Dual Lock from 3M might be
a good choice. You only need a small section in each corner to hold
items in place.
http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/electronics_mfg/esm/node_GSK76VTCV9g
s/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_DPB1Q1MJ7Nge/bgel_RVL9645885bl/gvel_LPQT5P05BQ
gl/theme_us_electronicsesm_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html
The photo on the 3M site stinks. I call it Velcro on steroids. Basically
interlocking mushroom shaped plastic heads that snap in & out of place.
Reusable. Available in different widths, and a couple of different head
count. I bet you can even pick up a sample at Staples but bulk purchases
on eBay or the like are a better value.
Heck Yes eBay is the way to go. 48" roll for $9.00. Item# 250266278240
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
I glued all mine down with sticky stuff but I also didn't use the stuff
from SoundEx.
I used the black closed cell foam from Aircraft Spruce.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stickystuff.php
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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From: Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:28:57 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: Soundproofing - glue or not? |
Moisture/Corrosion are two reasons that many have used-the SuperSoundProo
f from ACS; it is advertised at not retaining any moisture.- Since the su
bfloor covers-are all riveted in, then by using the supersoundproof you'v
e mitigated about as much risk as you can when you glue it in using the Sti
cky Stuff, which is supposed to be non-acidic and high-temp resistant.=0AOf
course, the installation of an inspection hole could then be the belt/susp
enders method if you can't fit a borescope-in from behind the cargo bulkh
ead to check things out.=0ARob-Wright=0A#392=0Awindow glue=0ACrack SB com
plete;-6 hours and a couple of difficult rivets (did not remove top shelf
)!=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: John Cox <johnwcox@pacifi
cnw.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:51:0
3 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?=0A=0A=0AYou may
find the cohesive quality of the product to itself exceeds the constructio
n strength of the insulation covering.- It may require replacement of ins
ulation down the road.=0A-=0AThe issue of not using any glue is a good on
e.- The objective should be the regular removal for inspection for corros
ion at each Conditional with the ability to re-apply the insulation on reas
sembly.- We use Orcon insulating blankets (in our fleet) which are laid i
n, easy to remove and easy to reinstall.- The only unfortunate issue is t
he wicking of moisture and keeping the insulation dry through the life of t
he aircraft.- Hardcoat and adhesive obstruction a quality inspection.=0A
-=0A8:30AM Monday - Dan Newland (formerly of Orcon) is speaking on "Pract
ical Reductions of Aircraft Noise" in the 09 Honda pavilion at OSH.- Dan
wrote an article on the subject for Sport Aviation a couple of years ago th
at I posted to the archives.=0A-=0ADon't forget thermal as well as acoust
ic qualities.- Moisture kills the thermal characteristics.=0A-=0AJohn C
ox=0A-=0AFrom:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sean garrison=0ASent: Sunday, July 13,
2008 6:56 AM=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Sound
proofing - glue or not?=0A-=0AHas anyone thought of using Fat Mat or Dyna
mat- it has a self adhesive backing and the temp range takes it to 0F to
150F.=0A-=0AFrom:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-
list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks=0ASent: Sunday, July 13
, 2008 2:01 AM=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Soun
dproofing - glue or not?=0A-=0AI have not used any Dual lock on my plane
but Dual Lock from 3M might be a good choice. You only need a small section
in each corner to hold items in place.=0A-=0Ahttp://www3.3m.com/catalog/
us/en001/electronics_mfg/esm/node_GSK76VTCV9gs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_DPB1
Q1MJ7Nge/bgel_RVL9645885bl/gvel_LPQT5P05BQgl/theme_us_electronicsesm_3_0/co
mmand_AbcPageHandler/output_html=0AThe photo on the 3M site stinks. I call
it Velcro on steroids. Basically interlocking mushroom shaped plastic heads
that snap in & out of place. Reusable. Available in different widths, and
a couple of different head count. I bet you can even pick up a sample at St
aples but bulk purchases on eBay or the like are a better value. =0A-=0A
-=0AHeck Yes eBay is the way to go. 48=94 roll for $9.00.Item# 2502662782
40=0A-=0A-=0ARobin=0ADo Not Archive=0A-=0AFrom:owner-rv10-list-server
@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of S
cott Schmidt=0ASent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:21 PM=0ATo: rv10-list@matron
ics.com=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?=0A-=0AI gl
ued all mine down with sticky stuff but I also didn't use the stuff from So
undEx. =0AI used the black closed cell foam from Aircraft Spruce. =0Ahttp:/
/www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stickystuff.php=0A-=0AScott Schmi
dt=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com=0A-=0A-=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFr
om: Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:28:57 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Soundproofin
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RV10-List=0A -=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0A -=0Ahttp://www.matronic
s.com/contribution=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? |
N256H should be in the day before the show or the first day of the
show. Plans aren't finalized yet. It should be there the whole show
but may leave for a day or part of a day during the show. Sorry I
don't have more details yet.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jul 13, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I'm interested for a couple of reasons in finding out who is
> flying their RV-10 into OSH this year, and what days they
> plan to arrive and depart.
>
> One reason it to give Jeff a heads up for space, and the
> other reason is for a little video/photo project I may
> undertake.
>
> I'm sure the list is curious as well.
>
> Sooooooo, who's going, and when?
>
> I'm flying in either Friday night (preferred) before the show,
> but definitely by Saturday noon, and then I likely will leave
> either Friday or Saturday towards the end of the week.
>
> I'll try to keep a tally so we have it in one email after
> a bunch have reported.
>
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
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>Rob Wright wrote:
>Crack SB complete; 6 hours and a couple of difficult rivets (did not remove top
shelf)!
So I must have done something wrong. I see folks taking A LOT of hours to comply
with the SB.
Assuming you are still constructing and have the tail off, to drill out the 50
or so rivets, match drill the reinforcing plates, and then re-rivet, took me under
3 hours--one hour to drill out rivets and match drill; one half hour to prime
and deburr; and another hour to re-rivet. And that was only because I was
doing other things during that time. Again, this is for those that did NOT
have to remove the tail--what is all the extra time spent on? Doing it by not
removing the top shelf should take even less time--maybe.
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/05Tailcone/Tailcone90.html
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
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Hmm, I think someone is a bit over reactive. They are no worse than normal and
the really bad spells are within a week or so of really heavy rains. I've
noticed a significant drop with the drier weather in the last week and keep in
mind I'm only 30 miles away, in a wooded area, on a river. :) Oh ya, no shortages
on bug spray that I've seen or heard of but it never hurts to be prepared.
Make sure you get the real stuff with around 20% DEET and you'll never have
a problem.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
I just got a note from the lady who owns the home we stay @ OSH ea year,
giving us a heads up on the mosquito situation. Apparently with all of
the rain this year the bugs are BAD day and night, and she reported
that there have been some local shortages in repellent reported. So a
word to the wise is to come prepared with you own supply , and lots of it!!
Deems Davis # 406
we don't got no stinking mosquitoes, but can I interest you in a scorpion???
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It's that initial set of assumptions you make -
(1) "Assuming you are still constructing and have the tail off"
(2) "(did not remove top shelf)"
Many folks have the tail on. Taking it off and putting it back on, in addition
to removing the rivets on the top shelf makes for much more time.
Jim Combs
40192
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===========================================================
From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SB work
>Rob Wright wrote:
>Crack SB complete; 6 hours and a couple of difficult rivets (did not remove top
shelf)!
So I must have done something wrong. I see folks taking A LOT of hours to comply
with the SB.
Assuming you are still constructing and have the tail off, to drill out the 50
or so rivets, match drill the reinforcing plates, and then re-rivet, took me under
3 hours--one hour to drill out rivets and match drill; one half hour to prime
and deburr; and another hour to re-rivet. And that was only because I was
doing other things during that time. Again, this is for those that did NOT
have to remove the tail--what is all the extra time spent on? Doing it by not
removing the top shelf should take even less time--maybe.
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/05Tailcone/Tailcone90.html
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
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Subject: | Soundproofing - glue or not? |
Most of the asphalt or rubber based products are far too heavy for aircraft
. Unfortunately most of the really good methods add a lot of weight or are
very bulky so you just need to look at the different products and find a g
ood compromise.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of sean garrison
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
Has anyone thought of using Fat Mat or Dynamat it has a self adhesive back
ing and the temp range takes it to 0F to 150F.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
I have not used any Dual lock on my plane but Dual Lock from 3M might be a
good choice. You only need a small section in each corner to hold items in
place.
http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/electronics_mfg/esm/node_GSK76VTCV9gs/r
oot_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_DPB1Q1MJ7Nge/bgel_RVL9645885bl/gvel_LPQT5P05BQgl/the
me_us_electronicsesm_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html
The photo on the 3M site stinks. I call it Velcro on steroids. Basically in
terlocking mushroom shaped plastic heads that snap in & out of place. Reusa
ble. Available in different widths, and a couple of different head count. I
bet you can even pick up a sample at Staples but bulk purchases on eBay or
the like are a better value.
[cid:image001.jpg@01C8E516.A94EE3E0]
Heck Yes eBay is the way to go. 48" roll for $9.00. Item# 250266278240
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
I glued all mine down with sticky stuff but I also didn't use the stuff fro
m SoundEx.
I used the black closed cell foam from Aircraft Spruce.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stickystuff.php
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:28:57 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Soundproofing - glue or not?
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? |
C-FXCS should arrive Mon or Tues leaving Sun or Mon following
Do Not Archive
Ted French C-FXCS
RV-10 Flying
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: July 13, 2008 9:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
I'm interested for a couple of reasons in finding out who is
flying their RV-10 into OSH this year, and what days they
plan to arrive and depart.
One reason it to give Jeff a heads up for space, and the
other reason is for a little video/photo project I may
undertake.
I'm sure the list is curious as well.
Sooooooo, who's going, and when?
I'm flying in either Friday night (preferred) before the show,
but definitely by Saturday noon, and then I likely will leave
either Friday or Saturday towards the end of the week.
I'll try to keep a tally so we have it in one email after
a bunch have reported.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: OSH mosquitos |
Well, I've been to Canada where the mosquitoes are as big
as some of the hawks that we have down here in Wisconsin, but
this year so far by us (we're not quite as rained-on as OSH)
I'd have to say is one of the lightest years for skeeters
than I remember. Have only had one bug-spray day this season.
No shortage in stores....just saw it on sale again this weekend.
I don't know that at OSH I've ever had to use it....so it
would truly be unique if it were that bad this year. I'd say
bring some if you got some, but I surely wouldn't worry about
not being able to get your hands on any.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Hmm, I think someone is a bit over reactive. They are no worse than
> normal and the really bad spells are within a week or so of really
> heavy rains. I've noticed a significant drop with the drier weather
> in the last week and keep in mind I'm only 30 miles away, in a wooded
> area, on a river. :) Oh ya, no shortages on bug spray that I've
> seen or heard of but it never hurts to be prepared. Make sure you
> get the real stuff with around 20% DEET and you'll never have a
> problem.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems
> Davis Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:48 PM To:
> rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
>
>
> I just got a note from the lady who owns the home we stay @ OSH ea
> year, giving us a heads up on the mosquito situation. Apparently with
> all of the rain this year the bugs are BAD day and night, and she
> reported that there have been some local shortages in repellent
> reported. So a word to the wise is to come prepared with you own
> supply , and lots of it!!
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
>
> we don't got no stinking mosquitoes, but can I interest you in a
> scorpion???
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: OSH mosquitos |
20%?
In Alaska nothing short of 100% DEET was considered effective. ;-) Of
course it dissolved most nylon and plastic items.
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
<rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote:
>
> Hmm, I think someone is a bit over reactive. They are no worse than normal
and the really bad spells are within a week or so of really heavy rains. I've
noticed a significant drop with the drier weather in the last week and keep in
mind I'm only 30 miles away, in a wooded area, on a river. :) Oh ya, no shortages
on bug spray that I've seen or heard of but it never hurts to be prepared.
Make sure you get the real stuff with around 20% DEET and you'll never have
a problem.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:48 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
>
>
> I just got a note from the lady who owns the home we stay @ OSH ea year,
> giving us a heads up on the mosquito situation. Apparently with all of
> the rain this year the bugs are BAD day and night, and she reported
> that there have been some local shortages in repellent reported. So a
> word to the wise is to come prepared with you own supply , and lots of it!!
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
>
> we don't got no stinking mosquitoes, but can I interest you in a scorpion???
>
>
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I have been told that Wisconsin Beer, Cheese and Brats cause a similar
Deet chemical reaction for locals. Wally World down south of OSH is the
closest large supplier of the Deet products.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
Well, I've been to Canada where the mosquitoes are as big
as some of the hawks that we have down here in Wisconsin, but
this year so far by us (we're not quite as rained-on as OSH)
I'd have to say is one of the lightest years for skeeters
than I remember. Have only had one bug-spray day this season.
No shortage in stores....just saw it on sale again this weekend.
I don't know that at OSH I've ever had to use it....so it
would truly be unique if it were that bad this year. I'd say
bring some if you got some, but I surely wouldn't worry about
not being able to get your hands on any.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Hmm, I think someone is a bit over reactive. They are no worse than
> normal and the really bad spells are within a week or so of really
> heavy rains. I've noticed a significant drop with the drier weather
> in the last week and keep in mind I'm only 30 miles away, in a wooded
> area, on a river. :) Oh ya, no shortages on bug spray that I've
> seen or heard of but it never hurts to be prepared. Make sure you
> get the real stuff with around 20% DEET and you'll never have a
> problem.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems
> Davis Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:48 PM To:
> rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
>
>
> I just got a note from the lady who owns the home we stay @ OSH ea
> year, giving us a heads up on the mosquito situation. Apparently with
> all of the rain this year the bugs are BAD day and night, and she
> reported that there have been some local shortages in repellent
> reported. So a word to the wise is to come prepared with you own
> supply , and lots of it!!
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
>
> we don't got no stinking mosquitoes, but can I interest you in a
> scorpion???
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: OSH mosquitos |
I believe the smoke from the airshow planes is the same as they use in the
bug foggers. We'll just have to get Sean Tucker to make a few low passes
over the camp grounds.
Dave
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
>
> 20%?
> In Alaska nothing short of 100% DEET was considered effective. ;-) Of
> course it dissolved most nylon and plastic items.
>
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote:
>> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>>
>> Hmm, I think someone is a bit over reactive. They are no worse than
>> normal and the really bad spells are within a week or so of really heavy
>> rains. I've noticed a significant drop with the drier weather in the
>> last week and keep in mind I'm only 30 miles away, in a wooded area, on a
>> river. :) Oh ya, no shortages on bug spray that I've seen or heard of
>> but it never hurts to be prepared. Make sure you get the real stuff with
>> around 20% DEET and you'll never have a problem.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:48 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
>>
>>
>> I just got a note from the lady who owns the home we stay @ OSH ea year,
>> giving us a heads up on the mosquito situation. Apparently with all of
>> the rain this year the bugs are BAD day and night, and she reported
>> that there have been some local shortages in repellent reported. So a
>> word to the wise is to come prepared with you own supply , and lots of
>> it!!
>>
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>>
>> we don't got no stinking mosquitoes, but can I interest you in a
>> scorpion???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Hi Michael
I am not sure what kind of girly mosquitoes you have where you are, but up
here in Canada where the mosquitoes regularly have transponder codes and
have been known to clean out blood banks, we prefer our DEET in the 95%
variety.
Check this out:
http://www.amazon.com/Woods-Sportsmen-Insect-Repellent-Spray/dp/B0000CBJBD
I spoke to the people I will be staying with today and asked about the
mosquitoes. My friend John said that they were bad this year. If you are
camping especially, I suggest you get the real stuff.
For the newbies, I also strongly suggest good head gear and a sunblock with
a double digit SPF rating - something appropriate for the surface of the
sun. The tarmac at KOSH can cause brutal sunburn.
Hydration is also a big concern. I bring a camel back that I freeze
overnight (you can also fill with ice) that keeps me cool during the day.
Bottled water at KOSH costs 3 times as much as AVGAS so be prepared. Usually
there is a water truck just outside the main gate as well as a couple of
water stations on the grounds where you can get *free* running water to
refill your water bottles.
I would also bring a small bottle of hand sanitizer as the biffies don't
always have hand wash stations nearby.
Cheers
Les Kearney
Preparing for KOSH trip #10
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: July-13-08 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Hmm, I think someone is a bit over reactive. They are no worse than
normal and the really bad spells are within a week or so of really heavy
rains. I've noticed a significant drop with the drier weather in the last
week and keep in mind I'm only 30 miles away, in a wooded area, on a river.
:) Oh ya, no shortages on bug spray that I've seen or heard of but it never
hurts to be prepared. Make sure you get the real stuff with around 20% DEET
and you'll never have a problem.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
I just got a note from the lady who owns the home we stay @ OSH ea year,
giving us a heads up on the mosquito situation. Apparently with all of
the rain this year the bugs are BAD day and night, and she reported
that there have been some local shortages in repellent reported. So a
word to the wise is to come prepared with you own supply , and lots of it!!
Deems Davis # 406
we don't got no stinking mosquitoes, but can I interest you in a scorpion???
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Subject: | Re: OSH mosquitos |
Just getting caught up on this thread!
That is pretty cool that there will be tons of DeHavilland Mosquitos at Oshkosh
this year.
That's a great RAF bomber.
(do not archive)
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Dave Leikam <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:26:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
I believe the smoke from the airshow planes is the same as they use in the
bug foggers. We'll just have to get Sean Tucker to make a few low passes
over the camp grounds.
Dave
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
>
> 20%?
> In Alaska nothing short of 100% DEET was considered effective. ;-) Of
> course it dissolved most nylon and plastic items.
>
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote:
>> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>>
>> Hmm, I think someone is a bit over reactive. They are no worse than
>> normal and the really bad spells are within a week or so of really heavy
>> rains. I've noticed a significant drop with the drier weather in the
>> last week and keep in mind I'm only 30 miles away, in a wooded area, on a
>> river. :) Oh ya, no shortages on bug spray that I've seen or heard of
>> but it never hurts to be prepared. Make sure you get the real stuff with
>> around 20% DEET and you'll never have a problem.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
>> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:48 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: OSH mosquitos
>>
>>
>> I just got a note from the lady who owns the home we stay @ OSH ea year,
>> giving us a heads up on the mosquito situation. Apparently with all of
>> the rain this year the bugs are BAD day and night, and she reported
>> that there have been some local shortages in repellent reported. So a
>> word to the wise is to come prepared with you own supply , and lots of
>> it!!
>>
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>>
>> we don't got no stinking mosquitoes, but can I interest you in a
>> scorpion???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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