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1. 04:25 AM - Re: New member hello! (Phillips, Jack)
2. 05:52 AM - Oil Canning of the Bottom Wing Skin (Wayne Hadath)
3. 06:42 AM - Re: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
4. 07:14 AM - Re: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation (John Cox)
5. 07:41 AM - Re: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation (pascal)
6. 07:53 AM - Re: Oil Canning of the Bottom Wing Skin (John Gonzalez)
7. 08:06 AM - Re: N402RH First Flight (Rick Barnes)
8. 08:54 AM - Re: Oil Canning of the Bottom Wing Skin (David McNeill)
9. 10:06 AM - Window Trouble (Dave Saylor)
10. 10:43 AM - Re: Window Trouble (John Gonzalez)
11. 10:51 AM - Re: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation (Steven DiNieri)
12. 11:51 AM - Cabin top - redux (n277dl)
13. 12:20 PM - N402RH Flying Update (RobHickman@aol.com)
14. 12:36 PM - BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel (William Curtis)
15. 01:03 PM - Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel ()
16. 01:05 PM - Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel (Rick Sked)
17. 01:13 PM - Re: Cabin top - redux (Dave Saylor)
18. 01:24 PM - Re: N402RH Flying Update (William Curtis)
19. 02:12 PM - Re: N402RH Flying Update (Robin Marks)
20. 02:15 PM - Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel (Bob Leffler)
21. 02:51 PM - Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel (Tim Olson)
22. 03:20 PM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (Randy DeBauw)
23. 04:47 PM - Re: N402RH Flying Update (tomhanaway)
24. 05:03 PM - Re: Re: N402RH Flying Update (RobHickman@aol.com)
25. 05:07 PM - Re: Cabin top - redux (John Testement)
26. 05:41 PM - Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel ()
27. 06:50 PM - Re: N402RH Flying Update (John Cox)
28. 07:11 PM - Re: Window Trouble (John Cox)
29. 08:18 PM - Re: N402RH Flying Update (pascal)
30. 08:21 PM - Fw: N402RH Flying Update (pascal)
31. 08:46 PM - Hitch a ride home? (Jesse Saint)
32. 10:25 PM - Re: Cabin top - redux (Dave Leikam)
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| Subject: | New member hello! |
Jonathan, I need to get you up in my RV-4, to really get you working on
an RV-Grin and to get you ready for the Big Grin you'll get when you fly
your RV-10.
I'll see you tonight.
Jack Phillips
#40610
Wings
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: New member hello!
I've been watching the List from the bushes since January, soaking up
the good advice, and with Oshkosh coming up I thought I'd better join
the ranks of the visible list members.
So, build 40822 is based at Chapel Hill, NC, and after a jump start at
the Alexander Technical Center this spring is now at Section 10-19.
This geography puts me in the same locale as two other RV-10 builders
I'm aware of, Bill Watson (Mauledriver) and Jack Phillips, so with a
little luck I'll stay out of trouble - first inspection by Jack
tomorrow...
My wife Vicky and I will hopefully see you all at Oshkosh.
Regards
Jonathan (fighting premature grin) and Vicky Bryant
#40822
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| Subject: | Oil Canning of the Bottom Wing Skin |
There has been discussion in the past about oil canning of the bottom wing
skin. I do not know if this will be true for all kits but I just installed
the right skin and it needed trimming at the main spar edge. It was
necessary to remove between 1/32 and 1/16 to get the skin to lay flat. If I
had not trimmed it the skin would have butted up against the forward skin
and this would have created lots of oil canning. With the skin trimmed and
largely using Vans instruction the skin is tight, a small ding here and
there but tight. Bruising should heal in a week or so.
Wayne Hadath
F1 Rocket C-FAUH 260 hrs
Checked by AVG.
6:03 PM
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| Subject: | RV10-List : rv10 hq donation |
Wow, thanks Steve! Sounds like the bankroll for a big RV-10 group
cookout one night!
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steven
dinieri
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation
<capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
Hey guys,
Tim and bob have been both taken on a predominant role in
organizing
and securing the sites at osh, and I for one am very grateful, for
without
their effort I'd be camping in the woods:) I know they've invested a lot
of
their time and money. I'd like to offer up a set of flush billet door
handles for "auction" to the highest bidder with the proceeds going
toward
the osh fund (which they can use at their discretion). We need to try to
pay
for a common camp site, food, pop, beer,etc. so even if your not
camping
(and all are welcome to visit) feel free to post a bid for the handles
and
the highest bidder wins. So if your on the fence, tell your other half
"its
for a good cause". Lets start off at 100.00$
You can see the handles @ Iflyrv10.com
Steve dinieri
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| Subject: | RV10-List : rv10 hq donation |
Will open the bidding at $100.00.
John Cox #40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of steven dinieri
Sent: Tue 7/15/2008 9:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation
<capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
Hey guys,
Tim and bob have been both taken on a predominant role in
organizing
and securing the sites at osh, and I for one am very grateful, for
without
their effort I'd be camping in the woods:) I know they've invested a lot
of
their time and money. I'd like to offer up a set of flush billet door
handles for "auction" to the highest bidder with the proceeds going
toward
the osh fund (which they can use at their discretion). We need to try to
pay
for a common camp site, food, pop, beer,etc. so even if your not
camping
(and all are welcome to visit) feel free to post a bid for the handles
and
the highest bidder wins. So if your on the fence, tell your other half
"its
for a good cause". Lets start off at 100.00$
You can see the handles @ Iflyrv10.com
Steve dinieri
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation |
Steve;
This is a great offer and I appreciate seeing this, wish I could share of
the camaraderie that will once again happen at OSH.
Do you have a end of auction time/date?
Thanks!
To start I bid $200
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From: "steven dinieri" <capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation
>
> Hey guys,
> Tim and bob have been both taken on a predominant role in organizing
> and securing the sites at osh, and I for one am very grateful, for without
> their effort I'd be camping in the woods:) I know they've invested a lot
> of
> their time and money. I'd like to offer up a set of flush billet door
> handles for "auction" to the highest bidder with the proceeds going toward
> the osh fund (which they can use at their discretion). We need to try to
> pay
> for a common camp site, food, pop, beer,etc. so even if your not camping
> (and all are welcome to visit) feel free to post a bid for the handles and
> the highest bidder wins. So if your on the fence, tell your other half
> "its
> for a good cause". Lets start off at 100.00$
> You can see the handles @ Iflyrv10.com
>
> Steve dinieri
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Oil Canning of the Bottom Wing Skin |
Indeed this is exactly what I found when doing mine and I re did the bottom
lf wing skin after doing the right wing second and having it turn out quit
e a bit better. The redo on the left (This was the third time doing a botto
m skin) turned out great. The holes in the skin were actually out of line w
ith the spare holes=2C the skin holes were closer to the skin seam then the
y should have been. I used an ice pick to gently pull things into alignment
.
John G. 409 ---soaring...not building.
From: whadath@rogers.comTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RV10-List: Oil
Canning of the Bottom Wing SkinDate: Wed=2C 16 Jul 2008 08:47:06 -0400
There has been discussion in the past about oil canning of the bottom wing
skin. I do not know if this will be true for all kits but I just installed
the right skin and it needed trimming at the main spar edge. It was necessa
ry to remove between 1/32 and 1/16 to get the skin to lay flat. If I had no
t trimmed it the skin would have butted up against the forward skin and thi
s would have created lots of oil canning. With the skin trimmed and largely
using Vans instruction the skin is tight=2C a small ding here and there bu
t tight. Bruising should heal in a week or so.
Wayne Hadath
F1 Rocket C-FAUH 260 hrsChecked by AVG.15/07/2008 6:03 PM
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| Subject: | N402RH First Flight |
Rob,
Congratulations on the first flight. I hope your panel works great because
ours is modeled after yours.
Rick Barnes, Mike Howe
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N402RH First Flight
S/N: 40204 N402RH was signed off Friday night and flew for the first time
this morning. I have eleven days to fly 39 hours before flying it to
Oshkosh. It has the new Hartzell three blade composite prop and it is
remarkably quit and smooth.
Two Advanced Deck EFIS's, AF-3400MFD, 430W, SL30 , GTX330, 496, MH 4ip
Oxygen System, PM9000, DigiFlight IIVSGV
1610 Lbs, no paint or carpet
I will post some pictures tomorrow.
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10 Flying!!
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6:49 AM
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| Subject: | Oil Canning of the Bottom Wing Skin |
the slight gap is necessary as the riveting prrocess reduces the gap.No gap
imples buckling and oil canning.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Hadath
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:47 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Oil Canning of the Bottom Wing Skin
There has been discussion in the past about oil canning of the bottom wing
skin. I do not know if this will be true for all kits but I just installed
the right skin and it needed trimming at the main spar edge. It was
necessary to remove between 1/32 and 1/16 to get the skin to lay flat. If I
had not trimmed it the skin would have butted up against the forward skin
and this would have created lots of oil canning. With the skin trimmed and
largely using Vans instruction the skin is tight, a small ding here and
there but tight. Bruising should heal in a week or so.
Wayne Hadath
F1 Rocket C-FAUH 260 hrs
Checked by AVG.
15/07/2008 6:03 PM
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Last week we bought a canopy cover from Van's. We used it in Eastern Oregon
a few days later, and when the plane got back to Watsonville, we found the
left rear window had gotten hot enough to distort pretty severly. Bummer.
In the picture, the reflection of the hangar in the door window is how it
should look. The back window is toasted.
I know that the polished wings sometimes reflect back towards the fuselage,
but I had no idea that the heat could be so intense. I think the cover may
have helped trap the heat, but I don't have any proof. The factory seems to
think it would have been worse without it. They talked about a polished
RV-4 that melted its canopy once. But ours has been outside for almost a
year now in some pretty hot, sunny climates without any issues, until the
cover went on.
As a bit of trivia, I just checked and found that the upper wing surface aft
of the spar is slightly concave, unlike an RV-6 we have in the hangar, which
is convex. With the flaps fully retracted, the concavity is more
pronounced. Now if I could just harness all that solar-collecting power...
Now I get to see just how easy that Sil-Pruf comes off.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Seems like you were pretty unlucky to have the plane parked in such a posit
ion to allow the sun to hit the wing and reflect that back up onto the rear
window...really=2C that sucks.
So what you are saying is=2C perhaps white paint on the wings would help pr
event that.
A white canopy cover is a must.
If able=2C park the plane with the nose or tail to the East or West.
Thank you for sharing these unknown mind fields.
A couple of weeks ago I ran over a 3/8" bolt with my car tire and got a fla
t. While changing the tire I wonderred how a bolt could find its' way to ba
lancing on its head=2C thus allowing it to go through my tire.
The next day starting my bike ride I saw the same size bolt in a completely
different location balancing on its' head. I thought that was pretty funny
=2C but then again=2C I was able to avoid it this time.
John G. 409
From: Dave@AirCraftersLLC.comTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RV10-List:
Window TroubleDate: Wed=2C 16 Jul 2008 10:00:19 -0700
Last week we bought a canopy cover from Van's. We used it in Eastern Orego
n a few days later=2C and when the plane got back to Watsonville=2C we foun
d the left rear window had gotten hot enough to distort pretty severly. Bu
mmer.
In the picture=2C the reflection of the hangar in the door window is how it
should look. The back window is toasted.
I know that the polished wings sometimes reflect back towards the fuselage
=2C but I had no idea that the heat could be so intense. I think the cover
may have helped trap the heat=2C but I don't have any proof. The factory
seems to think it would have been worse without it. They talked about a po
lished RV-4 that melted its canopy once. But ours has been outside for alm
ost a year now in some pretty hot=2C sunny climates without any issues=2C u
ntil the cover went on.
As a bit of trivia=2C I just checked and found that the upper wing surface
aft of the spar is slightly concave=2C unlike an RV-6 we have in the hangar
=2C which is convex. With the flaps fully retracted=2C the concavity is mo
re pronounced. Now if I could just harness all that solar-collecting power
...
Now I get to see just how easy that Sil-Pruf comes off.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville=2C CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation |
Thanks for the bid, you make a good point. lets just run this till, say,
9:00 Sunday night eastern time.
Should be plenty of time to ponder without dragging it out...
steve
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From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation
>
> Steve;
> This is a great offer and I appreciate seeing this, wish I could share of
> the camaraderie that will once again happen at OSH.
> Do you have a end of auction time/date?
> Thanks!
>
> To start I bid $200
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "steven dinieri" <capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:36 PM
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: RV10-List : rv10 hq donation
>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> Tim and bob have been both taken on a predominant role in organizing
>> and securing the sites at osh, and I for one am very grateful, for
>> without
>> their effort I'd be camping in the woods:) I know they've invested a lot
>> of
>> their time and money. I'd like to offer up a set of flush billet door
>> handles for "auction" to the highest bidder with the proceeds going
>> toward
>> the osh fund (which they can use at their discretion). We need to try to
>> pay
>> for a common camp site, food, pop, beer,etc. so even if your not camping
>> (and all are welcome to visit) feel free to post a bid for the handles
>> and
>> the highest bidder wins. So if your on the fence, tell your other half
>> "its
>> for a good cause". Lets start off at 100.00$
>> You can see the handles @ Iflyrv10.com
>>
>> Steve dinieri
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Cabin top - redux |
Group... I know this has been beaten to death but have a specific question that
I can't find an answer to in searching the list.
Assuming using headliner similar to what Flightline Interiors or Cleaveland sell....
how smooth does the inside of the top need to be. Does the headliner cover
any blemishes?
To provide a measuring stick... what gauge wire could you run under the headliner
and it now show? That'll give me some idea as to when to cry uncle on the
sanding.
Thanks in advance.
btw ... Hope to see some of ya at Oshkosh. Plan to fly the 7A up a couple times
during the week.
--------
Doug
"Fools" are always more creative than process people and will always
find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193151#193151
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| Subject: | N402RH Flying Update |
Here are some photo's of the RV-10 with the Hartzell composite prop:
_http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10_
(http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10)
As of this morning 7.4 hours down 32.6 to go before Oshkosh, I should get
another 3 hours on it tonight.
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
**************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music
scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!
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| Subject: | BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel |
Since I was planning to use Bose headsets in the RV-10 , I had already deci
ded that I would NOT install the standard RCA earphone/mic audio jacks. In
stead I plan to ONLY install the Bose (LEMO) jacks with provision for earph
one/mic audio and power for ANR. That decision is even more reinforced now
that Lightspeed is now offering their Zulu headset with the LEMO connector
. If I ever have to use a standard headset, I carry a RCA earphone/mic aud
io jack to LEMO adapter.=0A=0AThe only thing I cannot determine is if
the Lightspeed LEMO is the same as the BOSE LEMO. I can't find any detail
s on the Lightspeed LEMO and I found one reference that states it is a 5 Pi
n LEMO where I know the Bose LEMO is a 6 pin. It would be a shame if Light
speed used a different form factor than the 6 pin LEMO that is used by Bose
.=0A=0Ahttp://www.lemo.com/pdfs/catalog/ROW/UK_English/unipole_multip
ole.pdf=0A=0ABose owners guide with LEMO pin definitions.=0Ahttp:/
/www.bose.com/pdf/customer_service/owners/og_headset_x.pdf=0A=0Ahttp:
//www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/bosehdst.php=0AThe Bose (LEMO)
panel jacks are available at Aircraft Spruce=0A#11-01846 =0AAircraft
Panel Installation Kit=0A$31.00 =0A=0A=0AWilliam=0Ahttp://n
erv10.com/wcurtis/ =0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel |
Call Lightspeed and ask. I've found them to be extremely responsive and more than
willing to chat when I've called.
>
> From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> Date: 2008/07/16 Wed PM 02:43:42 EST
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel
>
> Since I was planning to use Bose headsets in the RV-10 , I had already decided
that I would NOT install the standard RCA earphone/mic audio jacks. Instead
I plan to ONLY install the Bose (LEMO) jacks with provision for earphone/mic
audio and power for ANR. That decision is even more reinforced now that Lightspeed
is now offering their Zulu headset with the LEMO connector. If I ever have
to use a standard headset, I carry a RCA earphone/mic audio jack to LEMO adapter.
>
> The only thing I cannot determine is if the Lightspeed LEMO is the same as the
BOSE LEMO. I can't find any details on the Lightspeed LEMO and I found one
reference that states it is a 5 Pin LEMO where I know the Bose LEMO is a 6 pin.
It would be a shame if Lightspeed used a different form factor than the 6 pin
LEMO that is used by Bose.
>
> http://www.lemo.com/pdfs/catalog/ROW/UK_English/unipole_multipole.pdf
>
> Bose owners guide with LEMO pin definitions.
> http://www.bose.com/pdf/customer_service/owners/og_headset_x.pdf
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/bosehdst.php
> The Bose (LEMO) panel jacks are available at Aircraft Spruce
> #11-01846
> Aircraft Panel Installation Kit
> $31.00
>
>
> William
> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel |
William,
I have both in mine, standard RCA and the Bose panel powered LEMO but I would love
to take my Bose to other aircraft, do you know of an adapter that will go
on the LEMO to RCA jacks? At OSH last year they said nothing excpet they would
sell me a new cord for the headset for $135 but it would be easy for me to swap
out..something I'd rather not do. I do plan another Bose for the RV-10...just
I have two other perfectly good ANR headsets for passengers that don't have
their own.
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:43:42 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel
Since I was planning to use Bose headsets in the RV-10 , I had already decided
that I would NOT install the standard RCA earphone/mic audio jacks. Instead I
plan to ONLY install the Bose (LEMO) jacks with provision for earphone/mic audio
and power for ANR. That decision is even more reinforced now that Lightspeed
is now offering their Zulu headset with the LEMO connector. If I ever have
to use a standard headset, I carry a RCA earphone/mic audio jack to LEMO adapter.
The only thing I cannot determine is if the Lightspeed LEMO is the same as the
BOSE LEMO. I can't find any details on the Lightspeed LEMO and I found one reference
that states it is a 5 Pin LEMO where I know the Bose LEMO is a 6 pin.
It would be a shame if Lightspeed used a different form factor than the 6 pin
LEMO that is used by Bose.
http://www.lemo.com/pdfs/catalog/ROW/UK_English/unipole_multipole.pdf
Bose owners guide with LEMO pin definitions.
http://www.bose.com/pdf/customer_service/owners/og_headset_x.pdf
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/bosehdst.php
The Bose (LEMO) panel jacks are available at Aircraft Spruce
#11-01846
Aircraft Panel Installation Kit
$31.00
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
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| Subject: | Cabin top - redux |
I didn't sand the aft section at all, except maybe a cursory swipe with 80G
to get the big chunks off.
The forward part between the doors took a bit of grinding to get it smooth,
maybe 10 gauge wire by your scale. Then, a piece of flat lexan went over
that area and was subsequently covered with headliner material. That
covered up a lot of unevenness.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n277dl
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:46 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Cabin top - redux
Group... I know this has been beaten to death but have a specific question
that I can't find an answer to in searching the list.
Assuming using headliner similar to what Flightline Interiors or Cleaveland
sell.... how smooth does the inside of the top need to be. Does the
headliner cover any blemishes?
To provide a measuring stick... what gauge wire could you run under the
headliner and it now show? That'll give me some idea as to when to cry
uncle on the sanding.
Thanks in advance.
btw ... Hope to see some of ya at Oshkosh. Plan to fly the 7A up a couple
times during the week.
--------
Doug
"Fools" are always more creative than process people and will
always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193151#193151
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| Subject: | N402RH Flying Update |
Way to go Rob! That's a nice looking prop and panel (and family):-)
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
> Here are some photo's of the RV-10 with the Hartzell composite prop:
> _http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10_
> (http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10)
> As of this morning 7.4 hours down 32.6 to go before Oshkosh, I should get
> another 3 hours on it tonight.
> Rob Hickman
> N402RH RV-10
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| Subject: | N402RH Flying Update |
"Ditto" I can't wait to hear about the performance of the prop.
Robin
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:35 PM
Subject: re: RV10-List: N402RH Flying Update
Way to go Rob! That's a nice looking prop and panel (and family):-)
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
> Here are some photo's of the RV-10 with the Hartzell composite prop:
> _http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10_
> (http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10)
> As of this morning 7.4 hours down 32.6 to go before Oshkosh, I should
get
> another 3 hours on it tonight.
> Rob Hickman
> N402RH RV-10
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| Subject: | BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel |
http://www.lightspeedaviation.com/content.cfm/Knowledge-Base/FAQ
Is Zulu available in an aircraft powered version to eliminate the need for
AA batteries?
Yes. The Zulu: P is the aircraft powered version. It uses the most common
aircraft powered ANR headset plug, the 6-pin LEMO. This plug is standard on
all Cirrus and Cessna 350, and 400 series aircraft. Should you need it, the
mating half of the connector is available from many pilot supply retail
stores.
It still doesn't answer your question, but it does appear like there may be
some hope that they are compatible
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel
Since I was planning to use Bose headsets in the RV-10 , I had already
decided that I would NOT install the standard RCA earphone/mic audio jacks.
Instead I plan to ONLY install the Bose (LEMO) jacks with provision for
earphone/mic audio and power for ANR. That decision is even more reinforced
now that Lightspeed is now offering their Zulu headset with the LEMO
connector. If I ever have to use a standard headset, I carry a RCA
earphone/mic audio jack to LEMO adapter.
The only thing I cannot determine is if the Lightspeed LEMO is the same as
the BOSE LEMO. I can't find any details on the Lightspeed LEMO and I found
one reference that states it is a 5 Pin LEMO where I know the Bose LEMO is a
6 pin. It would be a shame if Lightspeed used a different form factor than
the 6 pin LEMO that is used by Bose.
http://www.lemo.com/pdfs/catalog/ROW/UK_English/unipole_multipole.pdf
Bose owners guide with LEMO pin definitions.
http://www.bose.com/pdf/customer_service/owners/og_headset_x.pdf
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/bosehdst.php
The Bose (LEMO) panel jacks are available at Aircraft Spruce
#11-01846
Aircraft Panel Installation Kit
$31.00
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
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| Subject: | Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel |
I wired all 4 locations for both Bose and standard jacks.
I know, that doesn't answer the Lightspeed vs. Bose
question. I have had a couple people ride along that
preferred to use their own, which is understandable. I
also have a spare standard cord I can use if I need.
I installed a 5th headset jack for the rear seat that
often gets used to feed audio into a video camera.
That comes in handy sometimes.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Rick Sked wrote:
>
> William,
>
> I have both in mine, standard RCA and the Bose panel powered LEMO but
> I would love to take my Bose to other aircraft, do you know of an
> adapter that will go on the LEMO to RCA jacks? At OSH last year they
> said nothing excpet they would sell me a new cord for the headset for
> $135 but it would be easy for me to swap out..something I'd rather
> not do. I do plan another Bose for the RV-10...just I have two other
> perfectly good ANR headsets for passengers that don't have their own.
>
>
> Rick Sked 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Curtis"
> <wcurtis@nerv10.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday,
> July 16, 2008 12:43:42 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject:
> RV10-List: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel
>
> Since I was planning to use Bose headsets in the RV-10 , I had
> already decided that I would NOT install the standard RCA
> earphone/mic audio jacks. Instead I plan to ONLY install the Bose
> (LEMO) jacks with provision for earphone/mic audio and power for ANR.
> That decision is even more reinforced now that Lightspeed is now
> offering their Zulu headset with the LEMO connector. If I ever have
> to use a standard headset, I carry a RCA earphone/mic audio jack to
> LEMO adapter.
>
> The only thing I cannot determine is if the Lightspeed LEMO is the
> same as the BOSE LEMO. I can't find any details on the Lightspeed
> LEMO and I found one reference that states it is a 5 Pin LEMO where I
> know the Bose LEMO is a 6 pin. It would be a shame if Lightspeed
> used a different form factor than the 6 pin LEMO that is used by
> Bose.
>
> http://www.lemo.com/pdfs/catalog/ROW/UK_English/unipole_multipole.pdf
>
>
> Bose owners guide with LEMO pin definitions.
> http://www.bose.com/pdf/customer_service/owners/og_headset_x.pdf
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/bosehdst.php The Bose
> (LEMO) panel jacks are available at Aircraft Spruce #11-01846
> Aircraft Panel Installation Kit $31.00
>
>
> William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? |
40006 will be there on Sat the 26th and leaving on the 31st. Randy
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
We will be flying in Thursday July 24th, and leave the following
Saturday.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Dave Saylor <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:25:05 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
We are arriving in N921AC Monday morning. We're staying in Wassau
Sunday
night, then making the short flight to OSH as early as possible.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
I'm interested for a couple of reasons in finding out who is flying
their
RV-10 into OSH this year, and what days they plan to arrive and depart.
One reason it to give Jeff a heads up for space, and the other reason is
for
a little video/photo project I may undertake.
I'm sure the list is curious as well.
Sooooooo, who's going, and when?
I'm flying in either Friday night (preferred) before the show, but
definitely by Saturday noon, and then I likely will leave either Friday
or
Saturday towards the end of the week.
I'll try to keep a tally so we have it in one email after a bunch
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| Subject: | Re: N402RH Flying Update |
Congrats Rob.
Minor detail question. I note your AOA is running on the 3400. Can you have it
on your Advanced units if you opt to hook it up and/or activate it?
Thanks,
Tom H.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193251#193251
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| Subject: | Re: N402RH Flying Update |
In a message dated 7/16/2008 4:48:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
tomhanaway@comcast.net writes:
Minor detail question. I note your AOA is running on the 3400. Can you
have it on your Advanced units if you opt to hook it up and/or activate it?
Yes, the AOA is in declutter mode on the pilots screens. It turns on any
time the AOA starts to increase.
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
**************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music
scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!
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| Subject: | Cabin top - redux |
Doug,
In the back I glued a piece of 1/18" soundproofing foam (from Spruce) and
then the fabric. The fabric is pretty thin and will show unevenness. I did
sand and fill the canopy first. In the front I have an overhead console and
covered the rest of the area with some pieces of very thin aluminum wrapped
with fabric so little prep was required.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Painting and final assembly
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n277dl
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Cabin top - redux
Group... I know this has been beaten to death but have a specific question
that I can't find an answer to in searching the list.
Assuming using headliner similar to what Flightline Interiors or Cleaveland
sell.... how smooth does the inside of the top need to be. Does the
headliner cover any blemishes?
To provide a measuring stick... what gauge wire could you run under the
headliner and it now show? That'll give me some idea as to when to cry
uncle on the sanding.
Thanks in advance.
btw ... Hope to see some of ya at Oshkosh. Plan to fly the 7A up a couple
times during the week.
--------
Doug
"Fools" are always more creative than process people and will
always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193151#193151
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
6:49 AM
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| Subject: | Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel |
You may also want to compare it to the David Clark ones as well. I have the Flightcom
ANR Panel Power Headset and then use a 10 pin connector which is a pain
because they are the one one I know of that use this connector. I too am thinking
of mabe the Bose or Lightspeed and I also have the normal jack in case
someone want to use there own headset without adapters.
Ray
---- William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> wrote:
> Since I was planning to use Bose headsets in the RV-10 , I had already decided
that I would NOT install the standard RCA earphone/mic audio jacks. Instead
I plan to ONLY install the Bose (LEMO) jacks with provision for earphone/mic
audio and power for ANR. That decision is even more reinforced now that Lightspeed
is now offering their Zulu headset with the LEMO connector. If I ever have
to use a standard headset, I carry a RCA earphone/mic audio jack to LEMO adapter.
>
> The only thing I cannot determine is if the Lightspeed LEMO is the same as the
BOSE LEMO. I can't find any details on the Lightspeed LEMO and I found one
reference that states it is a 5 Pin LEMO where I know the Bose LEMO is a 6 pin.
It would be a shame if Lightspeed used a different form factor than the 6 pin
LEMO that is used by Bose.
>
> http://www.lemo.com/pdfs/catalog/ROW/UK_English/unipole_multipole.pdf
>
> Bose owners guide with LEMO pin definitions.
> http://www.bose.com/pdf/customer_service/owners/og_headset_x.pdf
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/bosehdst.php
> The Bose (LEMO) panel jacks are available at Aircraft Spruce
> #11-01846
> Aircraft Panel Installation Kit
> $31.00
>
>
> William
> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
>
>
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| Subject: | N402RH Flying Update |
Rob those picasaweb pictures look like you have dual AFS4500, and I
mistaken thought I read you were going with dual 3500s. Should I have
Dr. Breckenridge check my glasses?
Good luck on a safe and comprehensive flyoff.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N402RH Flying Update
Here are some photo's of the RV-10 with the Hartzell composite prop:
http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10
<http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10>
As of this morning 7.4 hours down 32.6 to go before Oshkosh, I should
get another 3 hours on it tonight.
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
________________________________
Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in
your area - Check out TourTracker.com
<http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112> !
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Dave, since you are classifying your existing pilots rear side window as
Salvage, have you considered making a positive compound curve of the
opposite pane, using an IR lamp (at proper distance) and having an
assistant use a handheld temperature gun to monitor threshold
temperature as you approach flexibility? Tap Plastics can advise on the
process (which they use for forming). You should be able to recreate
the opposite force and return the distortion to a "Near" virgin state.
The experiment would be valuable to the rest of us before we all learn
of Sli-Pruf during removal.
Whose cover did you use, what cloth material and what color created this
challenge?
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Window Trouble
Last week we bought a canopy cover from Van's. We used it in Eastern
Oregon a few days later, and when the plane got back to Watsonville, we
found the left rear window had gotten hot enough to distort pretty
severly. Bummer.
In the picture, the reflection of the hangar in the door window is how
it should look. The back window is toasted.
I know that the polished wings sometimes reflect back towards the
fuselage, but I had no idea that the heat could be so intense. I think
the cover may have helped trap the heat, but I don't have any proof.
The factory seems to think it would have been worse without it. They
talked about a polished RV-4 that melted its canopy once. But ours has
been outside for almost a year now in some pretty hot, sunny climates
without any issues, until the cover went on.
As a bit of trivia, I just checked and found that the upper wing surface
aft of the spar is slightly concave, unlike an RV-6 we have in the
hangar, which is convex. With the flaps fully retracted, the concavity
is more pronounced. Now if I could just harness all that
solar-collecting power...
Now I get to see just how easy that Sil-Pruf comes off.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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| Subject: | Re: N402RH Flying Update |
look like DECK's to me.. why use a 3500 when you can "test" your newest
product.
P
From: John Cox
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: N402RH Flying Update
Rob those picasaweb pictures look like you have dual AFS4500, and I
mistaken thought I read you were going with dual 3500s. Should I have
Dr. Breckenridge check my glasses?
Good luck on a safe and comprehensive flyoff.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N402RH Flying Update
Here are some photo's of the RV-10 with the Hartzell composite prop:
http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10
As of this morning 7.4 hours down 32.6 to go before Oshkosh, I should
get another 3 hours on it tonight.
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
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| Subject: | N402RH Flying Update |
oops my mistake, you mean the right screen, I meant 4500 and not 3400
sorry!
P
From: pascal
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: N402RH Flying Update
look like DECK's to me.. why use a 3500 when you can "test" your newest
product.
P
From: John Cox
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: N402RH Flying Update
Rob those picasaweb pictures look like you have dual AFS4500, and I
mistaken thought I read you were going with dual 3500s. Should I have
Dr. Breckenridge check my glasses?
Good luck on a safe and comprehensive flyoff.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:14 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N402RH Flying Update
Here are some photo's of the RV-10 with the Hartzell composite prop:
http://picasaweb.google.com/RobHickmanAFS/N402RHRV10
As of this morning 7.4 hours down 32.6 to go before Oshkosh, I should
get another 3 hours on it tonight.
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
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your area - Check out TourTracker.com!
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| Subject: | Hitch a ride home? |
I am riding up to OSH in N256H, but it's going to MN from there and
I'm coming home to the family. Does anybody have an open seat coming
back down towards Florida, or know of someone who might (in any kind
of plane, I'm not a snob)? If not, I guess I will have to do the big
plane ticket thing, but I would rather not if I can avoid it. It's
easy to get spoiled flying around in an RV-10.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin top - redux |
Ask Abby at Flightline. She says very little finishing necessary.
Dave Leikam
#40496 N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: "n277dl" <dljinia@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Cabin top - redux
>
> Group... I know this has been beaten to death but have a specific question
> that I can't find an answer to in searching the list.
>
> Assuming using headliner similar to what Flightline Interiors or
> Cleaveland sell.... how smooth does the inside of the top need to be.
> Does the headliner cover any blemishes?
>
> To provide a measuring stick... what gauge wire could you run under the
> headliner and it now show? That'll give me some idea as to when to cry
> uncle on the sanding.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> btw ... Hope to see some of ya at Oshkosh. Plan to fly the 7A up a couple
> times during the week.
>
> --------
> Doug
> "Fools" are always more creative than process people and will
> always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes.
>
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