RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 07/18/08


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:09 AM - For Deems ()
     2. 07:01 AM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (orchidman)
     3. 07:53 AM - Re: Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel (William Curtis)
     4. 08:09 AM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (orchidman)
     5. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (Bob Leffler)
     6. 08:54 AM - Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (orchidman)
     7. 09:08 AM - Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (MauleDriver)
     8. 09:42 AM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (orchidman)
     9. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    10. 10:38 AM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (William Curtis)
    11. 11:01 AM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (linn Walters)
    12. 11:11 AM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (linn Walters)
    13. 11:28 AM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (MauleDriver)
    14. 11:31 AM - Re: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    15. 12:03 PM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (MauleDriver)
    16. 12:03 PM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (pascal)
    17. 12:06 PM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (pascal)
    18. 12:07 PM - Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved (MauleDriver)
    19. 03:29 PM - RV-10 HQ Campsites Group 1 all picked and secured! (Tim Olson)
    20. 05:20 PM - Re: Lightspeed Plasma II on EBay (Geico266)
    21. 06:21 PM - Re: RV-10 HQ Campsites Group 1 all picked and secured! (Tim Olson)
    22. 07:15 PM - Re: Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Thane States)
    23. 07:27 PM - Removing Pro-Seal? (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:09:11 AM PST US
    From: <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: For Deems
    I will call your cell Friday night. Currently in AR and MO.


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    Time: 07:01:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    N104CD is airborne! 9000ft, 177kts ground speed LUM to OSH -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193592#193592


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    Time: 07:53:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    Just to clarify, since I will only have the LEMO jacks, I would only need the RCA (female) to LEMO (male) adapter if I wanted to use a headset with regular RCA plugs-this requires no power. If I want to use the Bose headsets with LEMO jacks in another aircraft without LEMO jacks, there are two options; 1) You can easily make an adapter by purchasing the $30 installation kit from spruce, adding RCA plugs and wire the power leads into a cigarette lighter adapter or battery pack. 2) You can purchase the Bose LEMO to RCA adapter with battery pack for about $100-$135. Installing only the LIMO jacks actually simplifies wiring. I've seen folks totally mess up their intercom wiring and introduce ground loops when tying the RCA jacks to the LEMO in the panel. William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > > William I think that's the kicker, you need a power supply if your using the headset on standard RCA jacks. It is soooo nice just plugging in the panel powered Bose headsets with that LEMO jack. > > Rick Sked > 40185 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:47:07 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles > Subject: re: RV10-List: Re: BOSE (LEMO) headset jack in panel > > > Well I guess like all things "it depends!" To use your analogy, If you are a VFR pilot and only fly VFR, the need for steam gauge backup is kind of redundant as looking out the window should be your backup. Same thing with jacks, are you worried about the jacks failing or that you may bring the wrong headsets? > > All the same signals are in the LEMO jacks, only in a different form factor. I'm looking at a source for the male LEMO jacks and will make a few female RCA to male LEMO adapters. Should be able to put these together for a LOT less than the $100-$135 that Bose is asking--stay tuned. But then thier adapter includes a battery case for power. If you just want to get RCA signal to LEMO signal, its just wires. > > William > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > I would reinforce the decision to also put in the RCA jacks as a back up. > > Kinda like a backup set of steam guages...... > > > > -------- > > OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in &quot;09 > > Q/B Kit - exited cabin top/door purgatory > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193369#193369


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    Time: 08:09:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    N104CD is on the ground. Camp sites for the RV-10 HQ are being reserved at this time. Is the Air Venture anticipation growing yet [Question] :D -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193610#193610


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    Time: 08:41:37 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
    All we need is real time satellite photos to see Tim roaming Camp Scholler. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? N104CD is on the ground. Camp sites for the RV-10 HQ are being reserved at this time. Is the Air Venture anticipation growing yet [Question] :D -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193610#193610


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    Time: 08:54:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    rv(at)thelefflers.com wrote: > All we need is real time satellite photos to see Tim roaming Camp Scholler. > > -- We have the next best thing for todays technology. The Internet. Return Flight plan has been filed. 11:10 ETD with an estimated arrival of 12:19. flightaware does come in hand from time to time. [Mr. Green] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193621#193621


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    Time: 09:08:07 AM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut can stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included free shipping. Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without charge. However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a $94 "liftgate service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take delivery other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a loading dock, do you? I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me at Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back and forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take care of it. I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof let's make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from the shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a legitimate charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before operating the lift gate. In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and Lycoming for getting it resolved. Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF kit" Watson do not archive


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    Time: 09:42:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    I have had all my 'kits' shipped 'Customer Pickup' at the shippers dock. That way there are no extra fees and I don't have to worry about being somewhere at a specific time. They load the crates on the trailer and I am off to the hanger. Parts of my fuselage and finishing kits (ordered and shipped at the same time) stayed on the trailer for over a month. I just knocked the crates apart and inventoried them right there. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193632#193632


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    Time: 10:20:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    REAL TIME UPDATE: Tim is still on the ground at OSH and won't be leaving for a little while. As usual there's a computer problem at the registration desk so he has to wait until that is straightened out. Andrea just got there with their camper and they're going to grab lunch. Early feedback is that there are more people there earlier than last year. There weren't any sites east of the trees and only 3 on the west side of the trees. Other 7 early sites are across the isle. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:50 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? rv(at)thelefflers.com wrote: > All we need is real time satellite photos to see Tim roaming Camp Scholler. > > -- We have the next best thing for todays technology. The Internet. Return Flight plan has been filed. 11:10 ETD with an estimated arrival of 12:19. flightaware does come in hand from time to time. [Mr. Green] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193621#193621


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    Time: 10:38:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    My first empcone kit arrived on a semi and it was for me and the driver to "unload" those two heavy boxes--wasn't easy. Since then, instead of having the shipping company home deliver, I rent a UHaul RT trailer and go pick it up from the local shipping facility. You can then unpack the kit while the box is still on the RT trailer at your leisure. Rental for the RT trailer is less than $30 per 24 hours and you usually save about $80 to eliminate the home delivery portion from the freight company. I've done this with all the kits following the empcone and it has worked out really well. This may not have helped since you were not aware of the "lift-gate service delivery" charge, but something to consider. Oh, the FWF kit is pretty small in comparison and I think came via UPS. William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut can > stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included free > shipping. > > Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without charge. > However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a $94 "liftgate > service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. > > I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take > delivery other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a loading > dock, do you? > > I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me at > Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back and > forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take care > of it. > > I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof let's > make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from the > shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a legitimate > charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before operating the lift > gate. > > In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and > Lycoming for getting it resolved. > > Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF kit" > Watson > do not archive


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    Time: 11:01:17 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    Good going!!! My prop was delivered Fedex Freight last week (early), and I had a discussion with the truck driver over requesting 'liftgate service' for the engine. Who freighted the engine???? Linn do not archive MauleDriver wrote: > > I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut can > stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included free > shipping. > > Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without charge. > However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a $94 > "liftgate service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. > > I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take > delivery other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a > loading dock, do you? > > I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me > at Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back > and forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take > care of it. > I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof > let's make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from > the shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a > legitimate charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before > operating the lift gate. > > In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and > Lycoming for getting it resolved. > > Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF kit" > Watson > do not archive > >


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    Time: 11:11:19 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    Another thought ..... did the engine have Slick Mags .... in the SB range???? Linn do not archive MauleDriver wrote: > > I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut can > stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included free > shipping. > > Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without charge. > However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a $94 > "liftgate service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. > > I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take > delivery other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a > loading dock, do you? > > I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me > at Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back > and forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take > care of it. > I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof > let's make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from > the shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a > legitimate charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before > operating the lift gate. > > In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and > Lycoming for getting it resolved. > > Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF kit" > Watson > do not archive > >


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    Time: 11:28:46 AM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    Yep, I've been aware of the various options for pick up at the shipping company and the possibility of lift gate delivery charges, etc. I shipped my emp kit to a build center and my fuse and wings via "that guy who does direct deliveries from Vans" and the Finishing kit was via ABFS. Interestingly, a lift gate charge was required for the Finishing kit but no additional charge was levied - just the 'delivery to home location with limited access' note on the delivery. I expected 'free delivery' of the engine which is what I got. I also expected if there were any additional/optional charges that I would be notified of them before incurring them, by Vans and/or Lycoming. I also expect the shipping company to be 'accountable'; if the goods are damaged I'm not going to accept shipment, if the bill is incomplete or unpaid, they won't drop it. At least not to a home location. I didn't expect to get a bill 2 weeks later out of the blue. But it was all good in the end which is what I wanted to share. The trailer thing is a good approach. I was planning that because I have access to some trailers but only needed them for the build center to home run. Thanks to my gear-head neighbor and his complete array of tractors, bulldozers, mowers and trailers. He rocks! So William, where are you going to be in Oshkosh (GAC or something?). Bill in DurhamNC William Curtis wrote: > > My first empcone kit arrived on a semi and it was for me and the driver to "unload" those two heavy boxes--wasn't easy. > > Since then, instead of having the shipping company home deliver, I rent a UHaul RT trailer and go pick it up from the local shipping facility. You can then unpack the kit while the box is still on the RT trailer at your leisure. Rental for the RT trailer is less than $30 per 24 hours and you usually save about $80 to eliminate the home delivery portion from the freight company. I've done this with all the kits following the empcone and it has worked out really well. > > This may not have helped since you were not aware of the "lift-gate service delivery" charge, but something to consider. Oh, the FWF kit is pretty small in comparison and I think came via UPS. > > William > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ > > -------- Original Message -------- > >> I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut can >> stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included free >> shipping. >> >> Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without charge. >> However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a $94 "liftgate >> service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. >> >> I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take >> delivery other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a loading >> dock, do you? >> >> I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me at >> Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back and >> forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take care >> of it. >> >> I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof let's >> make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from the >> shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a legitimate >> charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before operating the lift >> gate. >> >> In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and >> Lycoming for getting it resolved. >> >> Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF kit" >> Watson >> do not archive >> > > >


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    Time: 11:31:37 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days?
    I was just down there with Tim and Dave. Sites are filling up even faster than last year. He was able to get PART of the row along the road and directly behind the portapotties that has been used the last two years in addition to a nice size chunk in the row directly west. But even that row had a motor home in it already. Here is a map of roughly what they have as of this morning. Switch to Aerial view for a better picture. http://tinyurl.com/6e4cvf Michael Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:37 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? All we need is real time satellite photos to see Tim roaming Camp Scholler. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Who's Flying in to OSH, and on what days? N104CD is on the ground. Camp sites for the RV-10 HQ are being reserved at this time. Is the Air Venture anticipation growing yet [Question] :D -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193610#193610


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    Time: 12:03:20 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    Yes, of course. I still have to go back and study the SB but am I right in saying that there's no warranty action defined for it? You just have to comply with the procedure in the SB.... I really have to go back and read it along with the thread on it. linn Walters wrote: > > Another thought ..... did the engine have Slick Mags .... in the SB > range???? > Linn > do not archive > > MauleDriver wrote: >> >> I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut >> can stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included >> free shipping. >> >> Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without >> charge. However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a >> $94 "liftgate service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. >> >> I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take >> delivery other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a >> loading dock, do you? >> >> I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me >> at Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back >> and forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take >> care of it. >> I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof >> let's make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from >> the shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a >> legitimate charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before >> operating the lift gate. >> >> In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and >> Lycoming for getting it resolved. >> >> Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF >> kit" Watson >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 12:03:20 PM PST US
    From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
    Subject: Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    Of the three kits I have the first two were dropped off (with liftgate) by FedX and I paid on the spot, the last one was dropped off and 1 week later I received a bill for everything including the use of a liftgate- $75. Not sure if it is new billing this year or just a change in the way Van's has an agreement with the shippers. From: MauleDriver Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved Yep, I've been aware of the various options for pick up at the shipping company and the possibility of lift gate delivery charges, etc. I shipped my emp kit to a build center and my fuse and wings via "that guy who does direct deliveries from Vans" and the Finishing kit was via ABFS. Interestingly, a lift gate charge was required for the Finishing kit but no additional charge was levied - just the 'delivery to home location with limited access' note on the delivery. I expected 'free delivery' of the engine which is what I got. I also expected if there were any additional/optional charges that I would be notified of them before incurring them, by Vans and/or Lycoming. I also expect the shipping company to be 'accountable'; if the goods are damaged I'm not going to accept shipment, if the bill is incomplete or unpaid, they won't drop it. At least not to a home location. I didn't expect to get a bill 2 weeks later out of the blue. But it was all good in the end which is what I wanted to share. The trailer thing is a good approach. I was planning that because I have access to some trailers but only needed them for the build center to home run. Thanks to my gear-head neighbor and his complete array of tractors, bulldozers, mowers and trailers. He rocks! So William, where are you going to be in Oshkosh (GAC or something?). Bill in DurhamNC William Curtis wrote: My first empcone kit arrived on a semi and it was for me and the driver to "unload" those two heavy boxes--wasn't easy. Since then, instead of having the shipping company home deliver, I rent a UHaul RT trailer and go pick it up from the local shipping facility. You can then unpack the kit while the box is still on the RT trailer at your leisure. Rental for the RT trailer is less than $30 per 24 hours and you usually save about $80 to eliminate the home delivery portion from the freight company. I've done this with all the kits following the empcone and it has worked out really well. This may not have helped since you were not aware of the "lift-gate service delivery" charge, but something to consider. Oh, the FWF kit is pretty small in comparison and I think came via UPS. William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut can stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included free shipping. Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without charge. However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a $94 "liftgate service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take delivery other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a loading dock, do you? I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me at Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back and forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take care of it. I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof let's make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from the shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a legitimate charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before operating the lift gate. In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and Lycoming for getting it resolved. Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF kit" Watson do not archive


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    Time: 12:06:15 PM PST US
    From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
    Subject: Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    In my area of SoCal FedX Freight will send the liftgate by default for a home delivery, (not business address). I asked the first time my kit was to arrive, one needs to specify you do not want a liftgate and in that case the driver watches and does not, nor is "permitted" to help unload the freight.. Pascal -------------------------------------------------- From: "linn Walters" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved > > Good going!!! My prop was delivered Fedex Freight last week (early), and > I had a discussion with the truck driver over requesting 'liftgate > service' for the engine. Who freighted the engine???? > Linn > do not archive > > MauleDriver wrote: >> >> I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut can >> stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included free >> shipping. >> >> Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without charge. >> However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a $94 "liftgate >> service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. >> >> I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take delivery >> other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a loading dock, do >> you? >> >> I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me at >> Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back and >> forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take care of >> it. >> I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof let's >> make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from the >> shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a legitimate >> charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before operating the lift >> gate. >> >> In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and >> Lycoming for getting it resolved. >> >> Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF kit" >> Watson >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 12:07:36 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Vans 540 sales with free shipping - extra charges resolved
    "Holland" shipped it. Holland Freight Services or something. The invoice is up at the house now so I can't look at it. linn Walters wrote: > > Good going!!! My prop was delivered Fedex Freight last week (early), > and I had a discussion with the truck driver over requesting 'liftgate > service' for the engine. Who freighted the engine???? > Linn > do not archive > > MauleDriver wrote: >> >> I acquired (always a good word when paying more money than the gut >> can stand) an IO540 thru Vans during the sale. The offer included >> free shipping. >> >> Well, it all worked well and the engine was delivered without >> charge. However, a week later, I was invoiced by USF Holland for a >> $94 "liftgate service delivery" charge. Hmmmmm. >> >> I'm thinking that few if any builders would ever be able to take >> delivery other than by "liftgate". I don't have a forklift or a >> loading dock, do you? >> >> I called Holland and got no where. I called Vans and they pointed me >> at Lycoming. After faxing the invoice a few times and a little back >> and forth, Lycoming agreed that I should not be charged and will take >> care of it. >> I personally think it was a "gee with fuel prices hitting the roof >> let's make sure we squeeze revenue from anywhere we can" charge from >> the shipping company. I sympathize. However, if it had been a >> legitimate charge, they would have insisted on acceptance before >> operating the lift gate. >> >> In any case, everyone did what they should have. Thanks Vans and >> Lycoming for getting it resolved. >> >> Bill "finally riveting the bottom skins on and waiting on the FWF >> kit" Watson >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 03:29:09 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: RV-10 HQ Campsites Group 1 all picked and secured!
    For the early group of RV-10 HQ campsites, they're all staked out and secured now, so you have a presence at OSH! When it's cool enough tonight that I want to sit on a PC and update the website, I'll try to post actual photos, but I did draw up this drawing quick so you could see the site location. There is a site map link on this page: http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2008_Campsites.html That takes you here to see the currently staked sites: http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2008_RV10HQ_Campsite_Layout_Group1.jpg Scholler is filling up faster than previous years. Sites around us were filled that previously would have been wide open for the staking. We ended up getting some of the same sites that we have had in previous years, that are about as close as you can expect to get to the flightline without being way ahead in your stakeout. 6 of the sites of our neighbors had grass that was real long, indicating that they were staked out probably a week or more ago. We were, however, able to get all of group 1's sites contiguous. Group 2 will be staked out by Bob Condrey on Tuesday, and will *possibly* be connected to the same row, as there were more vacancies right next to us, but will likely be a row or two West. I will update the large site map later once their sites are staked, but by early next week you should be able to have the locations of all of the RV-10HQ areas, so you can find them for post-show relaxation! That's all for now, but I have actual photos of the area and from the flight today. It was an awesome flight with my daughter to go there, starting out with 1 mile viz in fog and drizzle with 300' ceilings for the departure. Started blowing out the top at 4000', and then through some additional higher clouds until we topped out at 9000'. A PERFECT example of a day where an instrument rating turned a no-go day into a very very beautiful and simple VFR on top flight that ended with an actual but simple IFR approach to 36 at OSH! ONE WORD OF WARNING FOR ALL WHO WANT TO CAMP: This year with the show bleeding into August, they will NOT let you register a site until you are renewed on your EAA membership at least to cover the month of August. Since I renew at the show every year, this meant I had to renew today, and I had to pay for the renewal of another camping member also. So please if you're camping, save Bob the additional headaches and RENEW IMMEDIATELY before he registers you! -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 05:20:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lightspeed Plasma II on EBay
    From: "Geico266" <Geico266@AOL.COM>
    Only 1 1/2 days left for bidding. E-mail any questions. I can deliver to OSH. Thanks Bob C.! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193714#193714


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    Time: 06:21:54 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 HQ Campsites Group 1 all picked and secured!
    Ok Folks, I did a trip write-up from today, and have the site photos: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20080718/index.html Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Tim Olson wrote: > > For the early group of RV-10 HQ campsites, they're all staked out and > secured now, so you have a presence at OSH! > > When it's cool enough tonight that I want to sit on a PC and update > the website, I'll try to post actual photos, but I did draw up this > drawing quick so you could see the site location. > > There is a site map link on this page: > http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2008_Campsites.html > That takes you here to see the currently staked sites: > http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2008_RV10HQ_Campsite_Layout_Group1.jpg > > > Scholler is filling up faster than previous years. Sites around us were > filled that previously would have been wide open for the staking. > We ended up getting some of the same sites that we have had in previous > years, that are about as close as you can expect to get to the > flightline without being way ahead in your stakeout. 6 of the sites > of our neighbors had grass that was real long, indicating that they > were staked out probably a week or more ago. We were, however, able > to get all of group 1's sites contiguous. > > Group 2 will be staked out by Bob Condrey on Tuesday, and will > *possibly* be connected to the same row, as there were more > vacancies right next to us, but will likely be a row or two > West. > > I will update the large site map later once their sites are staked, > but by early next week you should be able to have the locations of > all of the RV-10HQ areas, so you can find them for post-show > relaxation! > > That's all for now, but I have actual photos of the area > and from the flight today. It was an awesome flight with my > daughter to go there, starting out with 1 mile viz in fog > and drizzle with 300' ceilings for the departure. Started > blowing out the top at 4000', and then through some additional > higher clouds until we topped out at 9000'. A PERFECT > example of a day where an instrument rating turned a no-go day > into a very very beautiful and simple VFR on top flight that > ended with an actual but simple IFR approach to 36 at OSH! > > ONE WORD OF WARNING FOR ALL WHO WANT TO CAMP: This year with > the show bleeding into August, they will NOT let you register > a site until you are renewed on your EAA membership at least > to cover the month of August. Since I renew at the show > every year, this meant I had to renew today, and I had to pay > for the renewal of another camping member also. So please > if you're camping, save Bob the additional headaches and RENEW > IMMEDIATELY before he registers you! >


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    Time: 07:15:59 PM PST US
    From: "Thane States" <thane2@comporium.net>
    Subject: Re: counter sinking canopy holes
    Hey guys I never got the counter sink, is it still available?? Thane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: counter sinking canopy holes > > Hey Eric(5) and Thane(6), > > How about emailing me your email address so I can keep you posted, confirm > address, etc. We're still waiting for the seatbelts, so I may send the > countersink on to those who already have theirs, then get it back at the > end of the line. This "traveling tool" thing works so fast, we weren't > ready for it so soon! > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > doors almost finished, pants on, WHEW! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172365#172365 > > >


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    Time: 07:27:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Removing Pro-Seal?
    From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" <tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero>
    What's the best method or solvent for loosening up some well-cured Pro-Seal? Got a balky fuel tank sensor and need to remove it for inspection. Tim Dawson-Townsend 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) "It is the mark of an instructed mind to rest satisfied with the degree of precision which the nature of a subject admits, and not to seek exactness when only an approximation of the truth is possible." -- Aristotle (330 B.C.)




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