---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/23/08: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Thane States) 2. 12:39 PM - federal gasoline tax () 3. 01:41 PM - Re: Volunteering and RV-10 Parking at OSH (Jim & Julie Wade) 4. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Volunteering and RV-10 Parking at OSH (Bob Leffler) 5. 03:53 PM - Re: federal gasoline tax (Robert Woods) 6. 03:56 PM - Sb 08-6-1 (Dave Leikam) 7. 04:03 PM - Re: federal gasoline tax (Kelly McMullen) 8. 04:51 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (Jim Berry) 9. 04:52 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (pascal) 10. 05:07 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (McGANN, Ron) 11. 05:17 PM - Strobe or becan on top of Virtical Stab (John Cumins) 12. 05:54 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (Chris, Susie, Darcy) 13. 06:03 PM - Re: federal gasoline tax (Robert Woods) 14. 06:56 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (GenGrumpy@AOL.COM) 15. 07:08 PM - RV-10 OSH Picnic (bcondrey) 16. 07:15 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (Tim Olson) 17. 07:50 PM - Re: RV-10 OSH Picnic (Bob Leffler) 18. 08:39 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (Dave Leikam) 19. 09:08 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (Dave Leikam) 20. 09:23 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (McGANN, Ron) 21. 09:45 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (pascal) 22. 10:00 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1 (Dave Leikam) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:03 AM PST US From: "Thane States" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: counter sinking canopy holes thanks much!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Gallagher" Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: counter sinking canopy holes > > Hey Thane, > > I sent you an email to the effect that I have been unsuccessful in > contacting Eric Gohr -- the last person it was sent to. In case there is > a problem with the email, I have found a phone number and I will try to > call him today. Maybe at OSH? If anyone has contact with him, let me > know. > > By the way, I haven't heard from John Ackerman - the parent of the > countersink - so that I can eventually get it back to you. > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193762#193762 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:44 PM PST US From: Subject: RV10-List: federal gasoline tax Your representatives in lala land are considering increasing the federal gasoline tax by $.14 to $.34 per gallon. My senators and representatives confirmed it today by phone. The Congress has done everything within its power to prohibit the exploration, production, transportation and refining of domestic energy. Now they are trying to increase the taxes on gasoline. Consider contacting your representatives to express your concern or rage as the case may be. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:02 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Volunteering and RV-10 Parking at OSH From: "Jim & Julie Wade" This not the camping area is it?? Last year a lot of RV-10's were parked in front of the camping area. Has anyone worked on a place for the camping RV-10's???? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194589#194589 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:18 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Volunteering and RV-10 Parking at OSH There are two RV parking areas. In the HBP area, there is a specific area, similar to last year in which all RV-10's are parked together. I believe that Tim and Jeff are still looking for volunteers to assist with that effort. I'll be there assisting RV-10s that come in on Sunday. I don't believe that the HBC area will be segregated by model type, but then I could be wrong. I believe that it has been done on a first come, first serve basis. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim & Julie Wade Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:36 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Volunteering and RV-10 Parking at OSH This not the camping area is it?? Last year a lot of RV-10's were parked in front of the camping area. Has anyone worked on a place for the camping RV-10's???? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194589#194589 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:19 PM PST US From: "Robert Woods" Subject: Re: RV10-List: federal gasoline tax I have.....bummer is......I got Harry Reid......no joy my friends ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: federal gasoline tax Your representatives in lala land are considering increasing the federal gasoline tax by $.14 to $.34 per gallon. My senators and representatives confirmed it today by phone. The Congress has done everything within its power to prohibit the exploration, production, transportation and refining of domestic energy. Now they are trying to increase the taxes on gasoline. Consider contacting your representatives to express your concern or rage as the case may be. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:31 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:34 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: federal gasoline tax Good reason not to discuss politics here. Robert Woods wrote: > > I have.....bummer is......I got Harry Reid......no joy my friends > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:30 PM > Subject: RV10-List: federal gasoline tax > > > > Your representatives in lala land are considering increasing the federal > gasoline tax by $.14 to $.34 per gallon. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:28 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Sb 08-6-1 From: "Jim Berry" Dave, If you are going to insure your aircraft, I would guess the insurance company would use non-compliance with the SB as a reason to weasel out of paying a claim. It could also be an issue if you wanted to sell the plane. Jim Berry 40482 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194627#194627 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:16 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 Think of it as insurance From: Dave Leikam Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:08 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 From: "McGANN, Ron" I prefer to remove the empennage myself, in the hangar - rather than have it do so on its own, at 10000'. ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 8:22 AM To: RV-10 matronics Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer." ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:17:48 PM PST US From: "John Cumins" Subject: RV10-List: Strobe or becan on top of Virtical Stab I am in the process of riveting together the vertical stab on my RV 10. I see there is no provision for a strobe or beacon on the top of the VS. Has any one made this mod. I am an old head and like to be seen at night on the ground and in the air. But hate aircraft that run there strobe lights while taxiing. Please shoot me your thoughts on this thanks. I think it would be a very easy thing to do and I probably will do something like this. John G. Cumins President JC'S Interactive Systems 2499 B1 Martin Rd Fairfield Ca 94533 707-425-7100 707-425-7576 Fax Your Total Technology Solution Provider ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:47 PM PST US From: "Chris, Susie, Darcy" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 Do you realy need to ask....... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Leikam To: RV-10 matronics Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:11 PM PST US From: "Robert Woods" Subject: Re: RV10-List: federal gasoline tax sorry kelly...you are sooo right ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly McMullen" Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: federal gasoline tax Good reason not to discuss politics here. Robert Woods wrote: > > I have.....bummer is......I got Harry Reid......no joy my friends > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:30 PM > Subject: RV10-List: federal gasoline tax > > > > Your representatives in lala land are considering increasing the federal > gasoline tax by $.14 to $.34 per gallon. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:39 PM PST US From: GenGrumpy@AOL.COM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 1. You never have any problems. 2. You crash and your insurance company denies any claim, and anyone else in the plane or on the ground that might be injured has grounds to take your entire estate. grumpy N184JM do not archive In a message dated 7/23/2008 6:00:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, daveleikam@wi.rr.com writes: What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:54 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic From: "bcondrey" Time to spend some of generous donation from Steve DiNieri and Bob Leffler! We've decided to kick off the week with a BBQ Saturday evening for the every arrival crowd. RV-10 builders, flyers and families are all invited. If you're a serious wannbe we won't turn you away :) Let's plan on about 6:00 at RV-10 HQ located at 55th and Lindbergh in Camp Scholler. Please let us know if you'll be able to stop by so we can insure we don't run short of food & drink. Bob, Susan, Gary and Brenda Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194646#194646 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:15:54 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I remove the AN hardware from my rod ends and use Nylon bolts to save weight.....you wanna come with me and take a test flight? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Dave Leikam wrote: > What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? > > Fire away! > > Dave Leikam > RV-10 #40496 > N89DA (Reserved) > Muskego, WI > > * ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:47 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic Janice and I will be there. Let us know if there is anything we can do to help. Our plans are to be there around 9-10am. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic Time to spend some of generous donation from Steve DiNieri and Bob Leffler! We've decided to kick off the week with a BBQ Saturday evening for the every arrival crowd. RV-10 builders, flyers and families are all invited. If you're a serious wannbe we won't turn you away :) Let's plan on about 6:00 at RV-10 HQ located at 55th and Lindbergh in Camp Scholler. Please let us know if you'll be able to stop by so we can insure we don't run short of food & drink. Bob, Susan, Gary and Brenda Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194646#194646 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:54 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 In all honesty, I just don't know if I believe there is any good reason to pull apart those assemblies. I know I have to do it, but man I don't want to!!! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris, Susie, Darcy To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 Do you realy need to ask....... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Leikam To: RV-10 matronics Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:44 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 With all due respect, I know I have to do the SB, and I will, but if the empennage is that inclined to come off this airplane without those two small pieces of aluminum installed, I wouldn't fly it after they were installed! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: McGANN, Ron To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 I prefer to remove the empennage myself, in the hangar - rather than have it do so on its own, at 10000'. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 8:22 AM To: RV-10 matronics Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ics.com .matronics.com/contribution "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer." ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:49 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 From: "McGANN, Ron" You did ask us to 'fire away' - don't be too surprised with the reponses. ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:29 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 With all due respect, I know I have to do the SB, and I will, but if the empennage is that inclined to come off this airplane without those two small pieces of aluminum installed, I wouldn't fly it after they were installed! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: McGANN, Ron To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 I prefer to remove the empennage myself, in the hangar - rather than have it do so on its own, at 10000'. ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 8:22 AM To: RV-10 matronics Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ics.com .matronics.com/contribution "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer." href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer." ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:45:54 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 Dave; it's a bummer but I was surprised how quickly it actually took. I think there was more time thinking about it than the 2.5 hours to complete it. If you are at the flying stage just do your thing, check the area during the annual as recommended and when you've had enough do it. Personally I figure if Van's has a SB out there and they send the parts they think it's worth the effort and realize this issue as being rather serious. It may be all about liability, it may be about fixing an issue they acknowledge is a weakness, but they think it's a good reason to do the SB regardless. Get motivated one day and do it, P From: Dave Leikam Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 In all honesty, I just don't know if I believe there is any good reason to pull apart those assemblies. I know I have to do it, but man I don't want to!!! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris, Susie, Darcy To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 Do you realy need to ask....... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Leikam To: RV-10 matronics Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:51 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 All right cease fire, I will do the SB, when I get back from OSH. Dave do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: McGANN, Ron To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 You did ask us to 'fire away' - don't be too surprised with the reponses. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:29 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 With all due respect, I know I have to do the SB, and I will, but if the empennage is that inclined to come off this airplane without those two small pieces of aluminum installed, I wouldn't fly it after they were installed! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: McGANN, Ron To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 I prefer to remove the empennage myself, in the hangar - rather than have it do so on its own, at 10000'. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 8:22 AM To: RV-10 matronics Subject: RV10-List: Sb 08-6-1 What if I never do the SB on the tailcone of my plane? Fire away! Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ics.com .matronics.com/contribution "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. 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