---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/26/08: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:13 AM - Re: Wled on (Tim Olson) 2. 04:27 AM - Re: RV-10 OSH Picnic (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 3. 05:10 AM - Re: RV-10 OSH Picnic (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 4. 06:29 AM - Re: RV-10 OSH Picnic (Dave Leikam) 5. 07:45 AM - Re: oil choice (rv10builder) 6. 07:58 AM - Re: Weld on thoughts and ?s (Robert Wright) 7. 08:09 AM - America's Aircraft Engines (Rob Kermanj) 8. 10:52 AM - Re: Weld on (Fred Williams, M.D.) 9. 02:09 PM - Camp OSH (tganster) 10. 02:54 PM - Re: Camp OSH (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 11. 02:59 PM - Osh trip from BC (Ted French) 12. 05:58 PM - rear seat height (pascal) 13. 06:20 PM - Re: rear seat height (pascal) 14. 08:05 PM - Re: Sb 08-6-1: What's the equivalent of an AN470 rivet? (jayb) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:11 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wled on For fiberglass, copier toner works well, but I'm not sure how it would work for Weld-on, and if it could get black or just grey. There IS something that I think would have a chance of being great, but it would take some work finding it and experimentation. Years ago I had an absolutely awesome glue for dive related stuff...Aquaseal. They sold cans of dye to turn the glue various colors. That dye if compatible would easily turn it a very dark color. But, you'd have to test it for compatibility... and track it down. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Fred Williams, M.D. wrote: > > > What can one use to tint white weld on black?? > > Dr Fred. > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" We've got the food covered, just trying to get a count. Thanks for asking though. Bob -------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com Sent: Fri Jul 25 22:12:58 2008 Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic My wife Angie, my friend Randy and myself will be there. Can we bring anything? Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > > Just give me a call on my cell: 402 651 0402. > > Bob > -------------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu Jul 24 21:03:37 2008 > Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > > Hi Bob > > There is a 50/50 chance my daughter and I will be at KOSH in time for some > BBQ. If we make it, is there a number we can call in advance? > > Cheers > > Les Kearney > & Alex > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey > Sent: July-23-08 8:00 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > > Time to spend some of generous donation from Steve DiNieri and Bob > Leffler! > > We've decided to kick off the week with a BBQ Saturday evening for the > every > arrival crowd. RV-10 builders, flyers and families are all invited. If > you're a serious wannbe we won't turn you away :) > > Let's plan on about 6:00 at RV-10 HQ located at 55th and Lindbergh in Camp > Scholler. > > Please let us know if you'll be able to stop by so we can insure we don't > run short of food & drink. > > Bob, Susan, Gary and Brenda > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194646#194646 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:06 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic A copy of the SB. :D Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:13 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic My wife Angie, my friend Randy and myself will be there. Can we bring anything? Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > > Just give me a call on my cell: 402 651 0402. > > Bob > -------------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu Jul 24 21:03:37 2008 > Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > > Hi Bob > > There is a 50/50 chance my daughter and I will be at KOSH in time for some > BBQ. If we make it, is there a number we can call in advance? > > Cheers > > Les Kearney > & Alex > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey > Sent: July-23-08 8:00 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > > Time to spend some of generous donation from Steve DiNieri and Bob > Leffler! > > We've decided to kick off the week with a BBQ Saturday evening for the > every > arrival crowd. RV-10 builders, flyers and families are all invited. If > you're a serious wannbe we won't turn you away :) > > Let's plan on about 6:00 at RV-10 HQ located at 55th and Lindbergh in Camp > Scholler. > > Please let us know if you'll be able to stop by so we can insure we don't > run short of food & drink. > > Bob, Susan, Gary and Brenda > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194646#194646 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:00 AM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic I don't need no stinkin' SB!! ;-) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:06 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > > A copy of the SB. :D > > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:13 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > > My wife Angie, my friend Randy and myself will be there. Can we bring > anything? > > Dave Leikam > RV-10 #40496 > N89DA (Reserved) > Muskego, WI > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:25 AM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic > > >> >> >> Just give me a call on my cell: 402 651 0402. >> >> Bob >> -------------------------- >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Thu Jul 24 21:03:37 2008 >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic >> >> >> Hi Bob >> >> There is a 50/50 chance my daughter and I will be at KOSH in time for >> some >> BBQ. If we make it, is there a number we can call in advance? >> >> Cheers >> >> Les Kearney >> & Alex >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey >> Sent: July-23-08 8:00 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 OSH Picnic >> >> >> Time to spend some of generous donation from Steve DiNieri and Bob >> Leffler! >> >> We've decided to kick off the week with a BBQ Saturday evening for the >> every >> arrival crowd. RV-10 builders, flyers and families are all invited. If >> you're a serious wannbe we won't turn you away :) >> >> Let's plan on about 6:00 at RV-10 HQ located at 55th and Lindbergh in >> Camp >> Scholler. >> >> Please let us know if you'll be able to stop by so we can insure we don't >> run short of food & drink. >> >> Bob, Susan, Gary and Brenda >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194646#194646 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:41 AM PST US From: rv10builder Subject: RV10-List: Re: oil choice Sport Aviation, July 2008 (The cover is a picture of white and yellow Cessna 195), page 102: Engine Oils and Additives ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:14 AM PST US From: Robert Wright Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weld on thoughts and ?s I thought about this before gluing my windows in (wow it feels nice to know I'm just past that).- I bought a tube of black epoxy tint from West Mari ne for tinting the windshield fairing and sub-filler.=0AFor my windows I co ntemplated mixing a batch of tinted epoxy and applying it to the glue flang e around the perimiter of the window plexi, then when it cures, scuff it an d the weld-on should adhere fine to it.- This way the good black color wo uld show through instead of being a very dull gray after using tint in the white Weld-On.- Not to mention that every second longer with the Weld-On while you mix and tint it is one second you don't have to work with it on t he plane.=0AMain downside I see to this approach is-that when you squeeze the bead of Weld-On around the flange it will still be white and need to b e colored; I had no answer to that.=0AMy final decision was driven by a cou ple of things.- One, the beads around the windows aren't really beautiful fillets, so it's not plug and play, which means that there is still extra work that needs to go into making them look "finished."- On the inside, I 'll use a regular silicone sealer to even up the perimeter unless Abby's in terior and piping will-cover the inside fillet.- Can anybody vouch for this?=0ATwo, since it will need more work anyway, I've decided to use that same double-electrical tape technique as the windshield to add-a layer of 2-4 oz glass around each window to cover the joint, make a better transiti on to the window, and then paint over it.- I think this approach is close or the same as other builders.=0A=0ARob Wright=0A#392=0AWindshield=0A=0A-- --- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "Fred Williams, M.D." =0ATo: RV 10 =0ASent: Saturday, July 26, 2 008 12:00:25 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Wled on=0A=0A--> RV10-List message po sted by: "Fred Williams, M.D." =0A=0AWhat can on ===================0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:57 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: RV10-List: America's Aircraft Engines I wanted to tell everyone of my recent outstanding customer service experience with Americas Aircraft Engines. I purchased an IO540 for my rv10 in November of 2005 and put about 320 hrs on it since then. My engine developed oil leaks that I could not easily repair myself. They offered to pay a local shop to repair the leaks. This cost them $700+ which they paid without any questions. As it turned out, the repairs did not cure all of the leaks and they offered to reassemble the engine without any cost to me at any time. I agonized over the decision for about a year imagining all kinds of pit-falls but finally decided to take the offer. On my last vacation trip to NM, with only two days notice to them, I dropped off the plane. After opening the cowl, I showed them the leaks and walked away. Exactly 10 days later (including the 4th of July holiday) I returned on my way back to Florida to find the engine repaired and installed back on my plane. I did not have to turn a single wrench! I feel that I they went beyond my expectations in making the process painless for me and highly recommend to anyone considering an engine to at least talk to these guys. Call Richard or Steve Fowler. Their web address is www.overhaul.com. Rob Kermanj ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:20 AM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weld on I tried the red sharpie and couldn't quite get it dark enough. :-) I'd heard about the toner but didn't want to just put some in and change the chemical composition of the epoxy and see the RV grin lookin like the guy that did the 10 G sled thing. Probably just leave it white as I plan on the top being white. Sorry about the spelling on the post. Done late last night. Had a buddy call me from the "fly market" this am and sure wish I was there. Will make it next year. Stayed home this week to make some major progress. You'all have fun. Dr Fred. Rick Sked wrote: > > A Sharpie!!...sorry Fred... :) > > Rick Sked > 40185 > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Williams, M.D." > To: "RV 10" > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:00:25 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles > Subject: RV10-List: Wled on > > > What can one use to tint white weld on black?? > > Dr Fred. > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:20 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Camp OSH From: "tganster" My family and I just got done setting up on the NE corner of 30th and Elm ( tandem green Jayco popup ). Feel free to stop by for a chat and a cold one. I will not be able to attend the picnic tonight because of a previous engagement, but will be around the remainder of of the week. -------- Tom Ganster 40778 Wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195077#195077 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Camp OSH From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Stop by anytime! Bob -------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com Sent: Sat Jul 26 14:05:51 2008 Subject: RV10-List: Camp OSH My family and I just got done setting up on the NE corner of 30th and Elm ( tandem green Jayco popup ). Feel free to stop by for a chat and a cold one. I will not be able to attend the picnic tonight because of a previous engagement, but will be around the remainder of of the week. -------- Tom Ganster 40778 Wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195077#195077 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:12 PM PST US From: "Ted French" Subject: RV10-List: Osh trip from BC My brother and I are leaving Kelowna BC 7:00 AM local Sunday morn for Great Falls MT for the first leg of our trip to Oshkosh. We hope to artrive Monday morning, weather permitting. See you all there Do Not Archive Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:01 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: RV10-List: rear seat height I am designing the rear seats and wonder how thick the bottom and backs are. Anyone have access to measure your seats quickly for me? Thanks! Pascal ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:34 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: rear seat height I mean the the bottom and backs seat cushions. Thanks! Pascal From: pascal Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:54 PM Subject: RV10-List: rear seat height I am designing the rear seats and wonder how thick the bottom and backs are. Anyone have access to measure your seats quickly for me? Thanks! Pascal ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:42 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Sb 08-6-1: What's the equivalent of an AN470 rivet? From: "jayb" This is good information and seems to reflect exactly what I was wanting to know... How good is good enough? The original hole was way buggered (just one!). The new hole is fairly large and at this point it's probably easiest to just live with a screw/nut and call it a day as riveting this particular hole again could just make it worse (Murphy is alive and well). Cheers, Jay I think the thread has drifted a little. The NAS1097 is an Oops rivet for an AN426, and you were talking about a buggered hole for an AN470A4, right? My choices would be: AN470A5-x with a tensile strength of 16,000 AN470AD5-x with a tensile strength of 38,000 #8 screw with a tensile strength of 60,000 AN3-x with a tensile strength of 125,000 John -------- #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195127#195127 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.