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Wed 07/30/08


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 04:11 AM - Re: RV 10 Campsite (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     2. 04:30 AM - Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Lew Gallagher)
     3. 05:06 PM - Re: Leak Proofing the Fuel Sender (Dan Masys)
     4. 06:15 PM - Re: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers (Jonathan Bryant)
     5. 07:23 PM - Re: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers (Jay Wik)
     6. 07:41 PM - Re: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers (Jay Wik)
     7. 10:29 PM - Re: Re: Leak Proofing the Fuel Sender (Patrick Pulis)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:11:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV 10 Campsite
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
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    Time: 04:30:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: counter sinking canopy holes
    From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
    The revised traveling countersink list is now: 8 ) Don 9) Fred 10) Pascal Then back to me (hopefully someday I'll have a canopy) since John has abdicated his parental rights! Let me know if others want in on this -- it still works really well, may be getting duller than new, but then I have nothing to compare it to. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195713#195713


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    Time: 05:06:51 PM PST US
    From: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Leak Proofing the Fuel Sender
    Patrick, By chance, I happen to have done the Van's service bulletin on my RV-7A last weekend that applies a safety wire to the fuel pickup in each tank. To do this one has to remove the fuel tank access plates, which are essentially identical to the ones on the inboard tank rib of the RV-10. I had done a little 'randomized' experiment by using Van's cork gasket on one side, sealed with ProSeal, and on the other side I just used ProSeal without any cork gasket, as was recommended by Gary Sobek, my Tech Counselor at the time. The -7A is a bit over three years old, and here is what I can report: both the ProSeal-only and the ProSeal-applied to cork gasket work fine to hold the fuel in the tank with no leaks. Removing the side with the cork gasket was much easier, since the cork is soft and a putty knife can be slipped in between the pieces and the cover plate pried away and popped loose without much difficulty. The ProSeal only side was quite a bit more difficult to break loose, and required sliding a single edge razor blade between the bonded surfaces most of the way around the circumference of the cover plate. However, when it came loose it was somewhat easier to clean up using a razor blade as a scraper combined with MEK. So the decision to use a gasket or not really comes down to ease of future maintenance. Either way keeps the fuel in the tank. Hope this helps, -Dan Masys RV-10 N104LD back from OSH RV-7A N747DL


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    Time: 06:15:14 PM PST US
    From: "Jonathan Bryant" <bryantje@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers
    Dear Bob, Jonathan and Vicky Bryant, new builders from Chapel Hill, NC, will love to come by on Friday evening. See you there, ----- Original Message ----- From: "David J. Fritzsche" <fritzsch@eskimo.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:34 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers > <fritzsch@eskimo.com> > > Count me in for Friday evening. I did not get around to checking my email > until tonight and thus missed this evening. I arrived Monday and was > amazed by the number of 10s on the field. Have spent some time looking > them over. I will try to stop over tomorrow to say hello to whoever is > there. I have found a number of forums to be worthwhile. > > Dave > > bcondrey wrote: >> >> We are going to have 2 more large cookouts up here at OSH. First will be >> Tues evening and second will be Friday, both at 6:00 PM. Intent is >> simply to provide a social environment for our like minded RV-10 group to >> get together, put faces to names, make new friends and exchange ideas. >> Builders, "almost builders" and others with an interest are welcome. >> There are also usually at least a couple of vendors that show up so you >> can pick their brains. >> >> We will take care of the logistics of getting the supplies, cooking, etc. >> As mentioned before we have a large open area with picnic tables, chairs >> and shade this year so it's a great way to end the day! >> >> Many people have asked what they can do or bring. If you've got >> something you'd like to share with the group, by all means bring it! The >> only thing we ask is that you consider a contribution to help defray >> costs so that we can continue. We'll have a basket out for those that >> would like to donate but no specific amount is requested, just whatever >> you feel it's worth or would like to give. >> >> I'm told that Tuesday night's menu will likely be brats and maybe hot >> dogs. Not sure of side dishes, but there will also be plenty of cold >> drinks. Kids are welcome and several people brought theirs camping this >> year. >> >> We're still located at 55th & Lindbergh in Camp Scholler. 55th runs >> parallel to Knapp St (main N/S street at Air Venture) and Lindbergh is >> just south of the Hangar B gate. >> >> If you're coming and not part of the camping group, please let me know so >> that we can insure enough food and drink. >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195397#195397 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dave Fritzsche > Professor, Retired > Penn State > E-mail: fritzsch@eskimo.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >


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    Time: 07:23:25 PM PST US
    From: "Jay Wik" <jaycwik@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers
    Please add Jason and Jay Wik from Fergus Falls MN for Friday Thanks! On 7/30/08, Jonathan Bryant <bryantje@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > Dear Bob, > > Jonathan and Vicky Bryant, new builders from Chapel Hill, NC, will love to > come by on Friday evening. > > See you there, > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David J. Fritzsche" <fritzsch@eskimo.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers > > >> <fritzsch@eskimo.com> >> >> Count me in for Friday evening. I did not get around to checking my email >> >> until tonight and thus missed this evening. I arrived Monday and was >> amazed by the number of 10s on the field. Have spent some time looking >> them over. I will try to stop over tomorrow to say hello to whoever is >> there. I have found a number of forums to be worthwhile. >> >> Dave >> >> bcondrey wrote: >>> >>> We are going to have 2 more large cookouts up here at OSH. First will be >>> >>> Tues evening and second will be Friday, both at 6:00 PM. Intent is >>> simply to provide a social environment for our like minded RV-10 group to >>> >>> get together, put faces to names, make new friends and exchange ideas. >>> Builders, "almost builders" and others with an interest are welcome. >>> There are also usually at least a couple of vendors that show up so you >>> can pick their brains. >>> >>> We will take care of the logistics of getting the supplies, cooking, etc. >>> >>> As mentioned before we have a large open area with picnic tables, chairs >>> and shade this year so it's a great way to end the day! >>> >>> Many people have asked what they can do or bring. If you've got >>> something you'd like to share with the group, by all means bring it! The >>> >>> only thing we ask is that you consider a contribution to help defray >>> costs so that we can continue. We'll have a basket out for those that >>> would like to donate but no specific amount is requested, just whatever >>> you feel it's worth or would like to give. >>> >>> I'm told that Tuesday night's menu will likely be brats and maybe hot >>> dogs. Not sure of side dishes, but there will also be plenty of cold >>> drinks. Kids are welcome and several people brought theirs camping this >>> year. >>> >>> We're still located at 55th & Lindbergh in Camp Scholler. 55th runs >>> parallel to Knapp St (main N/S street at Air Venture) and Lindbergh is >>> just south of the Hangar B gate. >>> >>> If you're coming and not part of the camping group, please let me know so >>> >>> that we can insure enough food and drink. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195397#195397 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dave Fritzsche >> Professor, Retired >> Penn State >> E-mail: fritzsch@eskimo.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 07:41:40 PM PST US
    From: "Jay Wik" <jaycwik@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers
    Please add Jason and Jay Wik from Fergus Falls MN for Friday Thanks! On 7/30/08, Jonathan Bryant <bryantje@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > Dear Bob, > > Jonathan and Vicky Bryant, new builders from Chapel Hill, NC, will love to > come by on Friday evening. > > See you there, > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David J. Fritzsche" <fritzsch@eskimo.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tues & Friday Night OSH RV-10 Get Togethers > > >> <fritzsch@eskimo.com> >> >> Count me in for Friday evening. I did not get around to checking my email >> >> until tonight and thus missed this evening. I arrived Monday and was >> amazed by the number of 10s on the field. Have spent some time looking >> them over. I will try to stop over tomorrow to say hello to whoever is >> there. I have found a number of forums to be worthwhile. >> >> Dave >> >> bcondrey wrote: >>> >>> We are going to have 2 more large cookouts up here at OSH. First will be >>> >>> Tues evening and second will be Friday, both at 6:00 PM. Intent is >>> simply to provide a social environment for our like minded RV-10 group to >>> >>> get together, put faces to names, make new friends and exchange ideas. >>> Builders, "almost builders" and others with an interest are welcome. >>> There are also usually at least a couple of vendors that show up so you >>> can pick their brains. >>> >>> We will take care of the logistics of getting the supplies, cooking, etc. >>> >>> As mentioned before we have a large open area with picnic tables, chairs >>> and shade this year so it's a great way to end the day! >>> >>> Many people have asked what they can do or bring. If you've got >>> something you'd like to share with the group, by all means bring it! The >>> >>> only thing we ask is that you consider a contribution to help defray >>> costs so that we can continue. We'll have a basket out for those that >>> would like to donate but no specific amount is requested, just whatever >>> you feel it's worth or would like to give. >>> >>> I'm told that Tuesday night's menu will likely be brats and maybe hot >>> dogs. Not sure of side dishes, but there will also be plenty of cold >>> drinks. Kids are welcome and several people brought theirs camping this >>> year. >>> >>> We're still located at 55th & Lindbergh in Camp Scholler. 55th runs >>> parallel to Knapp St (main N/S street at Air Venture) and Lindbergh is >>> just south of the Hangar B gate. >>> >>> If you're coming and not part of the camping group, please let me know so >>> >>> that we can insure enough food and drink. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=195397#195397 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dave Fritzsche >> Professor, Retired >> Penn State >> E-mail: fritzsch@eskimo.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 10:29:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Leak Proofing the Fuel Sender
    From: "Patrick Pulis" <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
    Thanks Dan -----Original Message----- From: Dan Masys [mailto:dmasys@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 9:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Leak Proofing the Fuel Sender Patrick, By chance, I happen to have done the Van's service bulletin on my RV-7A last weekend that applies a safety wire to the fuel pickup in each tank. To do this one has to remove the fuel tank access plates, which are essentially identical to the ones on the inboard tank rib of the RV-10. I had done a little 'randomized' experiment by using Van's cork gasket on one side, sealed with ProSeal, and on the other side I just used ProSeal without any cork gasket, as was recommended by Gary Sobek, my Tech Counselor at the time. The -7A is a bit over three years old, and here is what I can report: both the ProSeal-only and the ProSeal-applied to cork gasket work fine to hold the fuel in the tank with no leaks. Removing the side with the cork gasket was much easier, since the cork is soft and a putty knife can be slipped in between the pieces and the cover plate pried away and popped loose without much difficulty. The ProSeal only side was quite a bit more difficult to break loose, ! and required sliding a single edge razor blade between the bonded surfaces most of the way around the circumference of the cover plate. However, when it came loose it was somewhat easier to clean up using a razor blade as a scraper combined with MEK. So the decision to use a gasket or not really comes down to ease of future maintenance. Either way keeps the fuel in the tank. Hope this helps, -Dan Masys RV-10 N104LD back from OSH RV-7A N747DL




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