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1. 05:03 AM - Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage (Rodger Todd)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage (Dave Lammers)
3. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: LSE Tach (Marcus Cooper)
4. 07:13 AM - Re: LSE Tach (Tim Olson)
5. 07:15 AM - Re: Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage (Tim Olson)
6. 07:16 AM - Re: Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage (David Hertner)
7. 01:03 PM - Re: Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage (johngoodman)
8. 02:18 PM - Oil Filter (dmaib@mac.com)
9. 02:23 PM - Re: Pictures N110DV (greghale)
10. 02:38 PM - Re: Oil Filter (linn Walters)
11. 02:38 PM - Re: Oil Filter (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
12. 03:30 PM - Re: QB remove upper fuselage deck top skin ? (AirMike)
13. 04:02 PM - Re: Oil Filter (PJ Seipel)
14. 07:12 PM - Re: Oil Filter (David Maib)
15. 07:19 PM - Re: Oil Filter (Don McDonald)
16. 07:32 PM - Re: Oil Filter (David Maib)
17. 07:36 PM - Re: Oil Filter (David Maib)
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| Subject: | Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage |
Hullo Everyone,
Is there anyone out there who has successfully managed to remove the main under
carriage brackets from their QB fuselage?
There was a link some time ago where the question was asked how people had managed
to remove the bolts and after many hours I have succeded in that. Apparently
most were defeated and gave up any idea of inspecting under those floors,
installing insulation/wiring/whatever there. My QB came with the front cabin
floors temporarily in place. To be able to remove them you need to remove the
u/c brackets.
Now the bolts are out, I find that I am unable to get the u/c brackets out because
you need to pull them forwards whilst at the same time dropping the front
attachment bar of the u/c bracket below the level of the front floor which is
clearly impossible. Hence the question, has anyone managed to solve the puzzle
short of destroying the front floors - Tim's log stated that his floors were
not supplied with his kit and he did not have this problem.
I'm dreading the reconstruction ............!
Many thanks,
Rodger 40437
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| Subject: | Re: Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage |
Roger,
It is possible! I did it so as to put sound insulation in that area.
I do remember it took a lot of head scratching and a few @#$%^& words
helped, but I don't remember the specifics.
Sorry no pictures. Wish I could help more, but the answer to your
question is yes, it can, and has, been done but is not easy.
Dave Lammers
Finishing forever
Rodger Todd wrote:
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>Hullo Everyone,
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>Is there anyone out there who has successfully managed to remove the main under
carriage brackets from their QB fuselage?
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I opted for the switch method and it works well, however the LSE sends 2 pulses
for every 1 the mag sends. I set up the EIS to read the LSE info as primary
so if I switch to the mag source I have to mentally double the indicated RPM.
In all honesty I usually do Tim's method of audio verification of minimal drop
in RPM, but I wanted the option if required.
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sam@fr8dog.net
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: LSE Tach
The problem with the switch is EIS interitation, the Mag requires a different setting
than the LSE.
---- jim@CombsFive.Com wrote:
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What about having a switch on the panel to let you select the source (LSE or MAG)?
I do as Tim does. LSE is the only input I use for the tach.
Jim C
N312F - Finishing
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From: Sam Marlow <sam@fr8dog.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: LSE Tach
Yes, but it's giving up a good diagnostic tool, and backup. I sure wish
there was a way to have two tach sources.
Tim Olson wrote:
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> I just use the LSE only for tach....I skipped hooking the mag
> in at all. You can hear by ear if it drops a lot of RPM,
> and you can see it on the multi-bar bar-graphs if the temps
> start to drop or rise. So there's no real worry to just
> have one as long as you listen carefully.
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> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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> Sam Marlow wrote:
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>> Ok guy's, I'm at the end of my rope here, I need help. I've tried
>> everything I can find to make my LSE tach work in conjunction with a
>> Bendix mag. The mag signal to my EIS6000 works just fine, but the
>> Lightspeed tach just won't work. I know some of you have it working,
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Marcus is right. I considered doing the same thing...just
leaving the 2 tach readings being different, and just
remembering that one would read a proportional number to
the other. It would be pretty easy to wire. I just decided
not to bother.....but I think the way he did it would be a
great compromise if someone were interested in both readings,
but didn't want the added cost and LESS reliability of a
mechanical tach sender.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Marcus Cooper wrote:
> <coop85@cableone.net>
>
> I opted for the switch method and it works well, however the LSE
> sends 2 pulses for every 1 the mag sends. I set up the EIS to read
> the LSE info as primary so if I switch to the mag source I have to
> mentally double the indicated RPM. In all honesty I usually do Tim's
> method of audio verification of minimal drop in RPM, but I wanted the
> option if required.
>
> Marcus
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> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> sam@fr8dog.net Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 7:42 PM To:
> rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: LSE Tach
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> <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
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> The problem with the switch is EIS interitation, the Mag requires a
> different setting than the LSE. ---- jim@CombsFive.Com wrote:
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> What about having a switch on the panel to let you select the source
> (LSE or MAG)?
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> I do as Tim does. LSE is the only input I use for the tach.
>
> Jim C N312F - Finishing
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> Do Not Archive
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> Sam Marlow <sam@fr8dog.net> Date: 2008/08/07 Thu PM 10:33:29 EDT To:
> rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: LSE Tach
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> Yes, but it's giving up a good diagnostic tool, and backup. I sure
> wish there was a way to have two tach sources.
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> Tim Olson wrote:
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>> I just use the LSE only for tach....I skipped hooking the mag in at
>> all. You can hear by ear if it drops a lot of RPM, and you can see
>> it on the multi-bar bar-graphs if the temps start to drop or rise.
>> So there's no real worry to just have one as long as you listen
>> carefully.
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>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive
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>> Sam Marlow wrote:
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>>> Ok guy's, I'm at the end of my rope here, I need help. I've tried
>>> everything I can find to make my LSE tach work in conjunction
>>> with a Bendix mag. The mag signal to my EIS6000 works just fine,
>>> but the Lightspeed tach just won't work. I know some of you have
>>> it working, how's it done?
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| Subject: | Re: Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage |
I feel your pain. Those gear brackets aren't fun to take
in and out. I did remove mine after I had them in though, so
I know how irritating it is. As you've already heard, one
good reason to pull them is to put sound insulation under
there. I have 3/4" foam under my front panels and in the
front sidewalls.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Rodger Todd wrote:
>
> Hullo Everyone,
>
> Is there anyone out there who has successfully managed to remove the
> main under carriage brackets from their QB fuselage?
>
> There was a link some time ago where the question was asked how
> people had managed to remove the bolts and after many hours I have
> succeded in that. Apparently most were defeated and gave up any idea
> of inspecting under those floors, installing
> insulation/wiring/whatever there. My QB came with the front cabin
> floors temporarily in place. To be able to remove them you need to
> remove the u/c brackets.
>
> Now the bolts are out, I find that I am unable to get the u/c
> brackets out because you need to pull them forwards whilst at the
> same time dropping the front attachment bar of the u/c bracket below
> the level of the front floor which is clearly impossible. Hence the
> question, has anyone managed to solve the puzzle short of destroying
> the front floors - Tim's log stated that his floors were not supplied
> with his kit and he did not have this problem.
>
> I'm dreading the reconstruction ............!
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Rodger 40437
>
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| Subject: | Re: Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage |
Roger,
I went through the arduous process of removing the undercarriage
brackets to get the front floor panels out. There was much swearing and
numerous skinned knuckles. Not a fun project.
To keep from having to do this ever again should the need arise to get
under the front floor panels I decided to modify the outboard aft corner
of the floor panel. I cut the panel diagonally at a 45 deg. a couple of
inches out from the corner and attached it permanently under the gear
leg bracket brace. I then fashioned an aluminum brace under the floor
that I could pop rivet the two floor pieces to along the seam.
I can't say that I would relish the thought of doing it again but at the
time I rightly decided to gain access to the area under the front floors
so that I could put the sound insulation in and to inspect the work done
overseas.
Dave 40164
Rodger Todd wrote:
>
> Hullo Everyone,
>
> Is there anyone out there who has successfully managed to remove the main under
carriage brackets from their QB fuselage?
>
> There was a link some time ago where the question was asked how people had managed
to remove the bolts and after many hours I have succeded in that. Apparently
most were defeated and gave up any idea of inspecting under those floors,
installing insulation/wiring/whatever there. My QB came with the front cabin
floors temporarily in place. To be able to remove them you need to remove the
u/c brackets.
>
> Now the bolts are out, I find that I am unable to get the u/c brackets out because
you need to pull them forwards whilst at the same time dropping the front
attachment bar of the u/c bracket below the level of the front floor which is
clearly impossible. Hence the question, has anyone managed to solve the puzzle
short of destroying the front floors - Tim's log stated that his floors were
not supplied with his kit and he did not have this problem.
>
> I'm dreading the reconstruction ............!
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Rodger 40437
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| Subject: | Re: Removal of u/c brackets from QB fuselage |
> Hullo Everyone,
>
> Is there anyone out there who has successfully managed to remove the main under
carriage brackets from their QB fuselage?
I didn't bother. I used a reamer for the match drilling, and you can vacuum out
through the lightening holes on the aft side. I did check the torque on the bolts.
I'm giving all my business to Bose when it comes to sound.
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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I discovered that the 90 degree oil filter adapter will not fit with the B&C 20
Amp back-up alternator installed on the vacuum pump pad. I talked with Casper
Labs and they confirmed that this is a combination they have been unable to make
fit.
Does anybody with the B&C SD-20 mounted on the vacuum pad have the remote firewall
oil filter kit installed? I want to make sure that will fit before I order
the kit.
If anybody is interested in buying my Casper Labs 90 degree mount with the 1.5
inch spacer, contact me offline.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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| Subject: | Re: Pictures N110DV |
Lew,
With the new paints available today, I don't think the weather has as much effect
on the clears. This wasn't the case with the old clears including the lacquers.
Keeping the airplanes hangared can really help protect the paint from the
elements.
As far as the weight, the 13 colors applied over the clear coat probably have a
total weight of many 2 and three color paint schemes. Even though I applied
4 coats of clear over the paint, there is probably 2 coats at the most left after
color sanding and polishing.
Forgot to say in last posting... Great paint scheme and nice paint on Dick's RV10.
The tip picture really shows the metallic paint.
Greg...
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Greg Hale rv8/rv10
www.nwacaptain.com
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MAPA has a remote mount oil filter and the filters if you want to go
that route. I put it in series with my oil cooler on my Pitts.
Linn
do not arcdhive
dmaib@mac.com wrote:
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> I discovered that the 90 degree oil filter adapter will not fit with the B&C
20 Amp back-up alternator installed on the vacuum pump pad. I talked with Casper
Labs and they confirmed that this is a combination they have been unable to
make fit.
>
> Does anybody with the B&C SD-20 mounted on the vacuum pad have the remote firewall
oil filter kit installed? I want to make sure that will fit before I order
the kit.
>
> If anybody is interested in buying my Casper Labs 90 degree mount with the 1.5
inch spacer, contact me offline.
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197558#197558
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You can get a spacer and replacement shear coupling for the alternator from BandC
that will allow them to coexist fine. Talk to Bill and he'll know exactly
what you need.
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
Sent: Sat Aug 09 14:17:19 2008
Subject: RV10-List: Oil Filter
I discovered that the 90 degree oil filter adapter will not fit with the B&C 20
Amp back-up alternator installed on the vacuum pump pad. I talked with Casper
Labs and they confirmed that this is a combination they have been unable to make
fit.
Does anybody with the B&C SD-20 mounted on the vacuum pad have the remote firewall
oil filter kit installed? I want to make sure that will fit before I order
the kit.
If anybody is interested in buying my Casper Labs 90 degree mount with the 1.5
inch spacer, contact me offline.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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| Subject: | Re: QB remove upper fuselage deck top skin ? |
Amen brother. Makes the wiring and panel works a bunch easier. I did not pull the
top skin as the work on the Q/B is sooo good that I did not want to disrupt
it's great appearance
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OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - exited cabin top/door purgatory
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I have the AirWolf remote oil and the B&C SD-20 and they work together
fine.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
dmaib@mac.com wrote:
>
> I discovered that the 90 degree oil filter adapter will not fit with the B&C
20 Amp back-up alternator installed on the vacuum pump pad. I talked with Casper
Labs and they confirmed that this is a combination they have been unable to
make fit.
>
> Does anybody with the B&C SD-20 mounted on the vacuum pad have the remote firewall
oil filter kit installed? I want to make sure that will fit before I order
the kit.
>
> If anybody is interested in buying my Casper Labs 90 degree mount with the 1.5
inch spacer, contact me offline.
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197558#197558
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Thanks Bob, I will call B&C first thing Monday AM.
David Maib
40559
On Aug 9, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
You can get a spacer and replacement shear coupling for the
alternator from BandC that will allow them to coexist fine. Talk to
Bill and he'll know exactly what you need.
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-
server@matronics.com>
Sent: Sat Aug 09 14:17:19 2008
Subject: RV10-List: Oil Filter
I discovered that the 90 degree oil filter adapter will not fit with
the B&C 20 Amp back-up alternator installed on the vacuum pump pad. I
talked with Casper Labs and they confirmed that this is a combination
they have been unable to make fit.
Does anybody with the B&C SD-20 mounted on the vacuum pad have the
remote firewall oil filter kit installed? I want to make sure that
will fit before I order the kit.
If anybody is interested in buying my Casper Labs 90 degree mount
with the 1.5 inch spacer, contact me offline.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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I was still very new to this whole process when I ran into the same problem
....- after not receiving much from anyone, I got on the milling machine
and fabricated my own.... I know that's not much help.... but in case my do
esn't work, let me know what you find out.
Don McDonald
#40636--
Finshing the finishing.
--- On Sat, 8/9/08, dmaib@mac.com <dmaib@mac.com> wrote:
From: dmaib@mac.com <dmaib@mac.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Oil Filter
<dmaib@mac.com>
I discovered that the 90 degree oil filter adapter will not fit with the
B&C 20 Amp back-up alternator installed on the vacuum pump pad. I talked
with Casper Labs and they confirmed that this is a combination they have be
en
unable to make fit.
Does anybody with the B&C SD-20 mounted on the vacuum pad have the remote
firewall oil filter kit installed? I want to make sure that will fit before
I
order the kit.
If anybody is interested in buying my Casper Labs 90 degree mount with the
1.5
inch spacer, contact me offline.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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Thanks Don. When I talked to Casper Labs, they suggested that milling
the spacer to a custom size might work. I will let you know what I
find out from B&C.
David Maib
On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Don McDonald wrote:
I was still very new to this whole process when I ran into the same
problem.... after not receiving much from anyone, I got on the
milling machine and fabricated my own.... I know that's not much
help.... but in case my doesn't work, let me know what you find out.
Don McDonald
#40636
Finshing the finishing.
--- On Sat, 8/9/08, dmaib@mac.com <dmaib@mac.com> wrote:
From: dmaib@mac.com <dmaib@mac.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Oil Filter
<dmaib@mac.com>
I discovered that the 90 degree oil filter adapter will not fit with the
B&C 20 Amp back-up alternator installed on the vacuum pump pad. I talked
with Casper Labs and they confirmed that this is a combination they
have been
unable to make fit.
Does anybody with the B&C SD-20 mounted on the vacuum pad have the
remote
firewall oil filter kit installed? I want to make sure that will fit
before I
order the kit.
If anybody is interested in buying my Casper Labs 90 degree mount
with the 1.5
inch spacer, contact me offline.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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Thanks PJ. If B&C cannot help me, I think I will go the AirWolf
route. May just do that anyway.
David Maib
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On Aug 9, 2008, at 6:01 PM, PJ Seipel wrote:
I have the AirWolf remote oil and the B&C SD-20 and they work
together fine.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
dmaib@mac.com wrote:
>
> I discovered that the 90 degree oil filter adapter will not fit
> with the B&C 20 Amp back-up alternator installed on the vacuum pump
> pad. I talked with Casper Labs and they confirmed that this is a
> combination they have been unable to make fit.
>
> Does anybody with the B&C SD-20 mounted on the vacuum pad have the
> remote firewall oil filter kit installed? I want to make sure that
> will fit before I order the kit.
>
> If anybody is interested in buying my Casper Labs 90 degree mount
> with the 1.5 inch spacer, contact me offline.
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> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
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