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1. 01:10 AM - Re: tires (Tim Lewis)
2. 04:26 AM - Re: Rivethead-Aero door pins - installation time saver (MauleDriver)
3. 05:30 AM - SLC RV-10 Contacts (Frank Dombroski)
4. 07:27 AM - dihedral (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: SLC RV-10 Contacts (Rene Felker)
6. 08:10 AM - Re: RV-10 HQ (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
7. 09:26 AM - Re: RV-10 HQ (gary)
8. 10:22 AM - Re: RV-10 HQ (MauleDriver)
9. 10:54 AM - door lock size requirement (pascal)
10. 01:46 PM - WARNING: Epoxy filler (James, Peter [SD])
11. 03:16 PM - Car Radio output to headphones (greghale)
12. 03:46 PM - Re: Car Radio output to headphones (pascal)
13. 04:04 PM - Re: Car Radio output to headphones (Scott Schmidt)
14. 05:54 PM - Re: Car Radio output to headphones (Tim Olson)
15. 07:17 PM - Re: Car Radio output to headphones (greghale)
16. 07:36 PM - Re: Car Radio output to headphones (Marcus Cooper)
17. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: Car Radio output to headphones (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
18. 08:02 PM - Re: Car Radio output to headphones (Lenny Iszak)
19. 09:37 PM - Re: Car Radio output to headphones (greghale)
20. 09:42 PM - Re: Car Radio output to headphones (greghale)
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> Dan Checkoway recommended a retread in the link below that he has been
> very happy with.
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t 784&highlight=tire
> <http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t 784&highlight=tire>
> I have always been a firm believer that you get what you pay for and
> have wondered if anyone out there has had any bad experiences with them?
I've used a set of the Wilkerson tires (retreads) for several hundred
hours on my RV-6A. No problems, and they sure do appear to exhibit
longer tread life than I experienced using new tires. I'll use
Wilkerson tires again.
Tim
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Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 1000 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead-Aero door pins - installation time saver |
I'm guessing that it matters how far you have the pins going into the
blocks.
My switches work in the normal Van's spec'd position but I have the pins
going slightly thru the door frames. That may change later so this is
good to know. Thanks
Bill
AirMike wrote:
>
> Just worked on my door-open warning system yesterday with my electronics guru
and RV10 builder "Nick" from Sacramento. Nick pointed out the it is very difficult
to get the magnets in the system to activate the little magnetic switches
in the door frame at a 90 degree angle as shown in the Vans door kit plans.
The smaller magnets in the Rivethead-Aero door pins may not activate the little
magnetic switches at that 90 degree angle. I had to put the magnetic switches
pointing directly at the Rivethead-Aero door pins to get them activated. The
magnetic switches need to be mounted on the skin pointing dead at the door pins
- then they work fine. Nick probably saved me 5 hours of craziness figuring
this out... :D :D :D :D :D :D
>
> --------
> OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
> Q/B Kit - exited cabin top/door purgatory
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198042#198042
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| Subject: | SLC RV-10 Contacts |
I recently purchased a QB kit to jump start my -10 build process... I'm a r
epeat builder, with an RV-8 project in the books.=0AI will be in SLC Wed to
Friday, and am hoping to connect for a look, and perhaps ride.-I've not
yet flown in the -10.=0AThere seem to be few completed birds in the NE, I a
m based in NJ.=0AMany Thanks,=0AFrank=0A908-577-1625=0Af.dombroski at yahoo
dot com
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Anyone have a spec on what the dihedral of the RV-10 wing is?
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | SLC RV-10 Contacts |
Frank, wish I could help this week but there is no way I will be able to get
away from work and family before Sunday. Maybe next time.
When do you leave on Friday?
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Dombroski
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:28 AM
Subject: RV10-List: SLC RV-10 Contacts
I recently purchased a QB kit to jump start my -10 build process... I'm a
repeat builder, with an RV-8 project in the books.
I will be in SLC Wed to Friday, and am hoping to connect for a look, and
perhaps ride. I've not yet flown in the -10.
There seem to be few completed birds in the NE, I am based in NJ.
Many Thanks,
Frank
908-577-1625
f.dombroski at yahoo dot com
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Bob,
Thanks for the thanks, great pictures too! One of the reasons that I
enjoy staying as part of an RV-10 group is the afternoon/evening
chatter. I know that I learn a lot every year just sitting around and
listening. Now that I'm flying I find it very rewarding to pass along
things that I've picked up over time.
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 HQ
First, I would like to publically thank Bob, Gary, Michael, and Tim for
coordinating the RV-10 HQ Campsite at Airventure this year. Without
the efforts of these gentlemen (Brenda, Susan, and Andrea too) we
wouldn't have had the great experience we all had this year.
I know that I came away much more knowledgeable about the tasks in front
of me after talking with these gentlemen and the others that hung out at
the RV-10 HQ campsite. I find the camp site much more educational than
most of the forums.
Unfortunately, my wife and I were late on Friday and didn't get a chance
to meet all the new folks that only made it to Friday's dinner. Friday
night got a little crazy for us. While attempting to listen to Lt.
Dan's Band, we got calls from our son who was stranded by United at
O'hare on his way home from Ellsworth AFB and our daughter upset that
her band camp got canceled due to a rabid bat being found in one of
their cabins. Things worked out well, even though it was hectic for a
little while.
Janice and I had to bug out early for a 7:30 breakfast on Saturday. I
ended up getting a 5th place Web Editor award for our chapter's web site
that I just put up a couple weeks before the show. For those that we
didn't get to say goodbye, both Janice and I enjoyed meeting everyone.
Hopefully we'll get to do it all over again next year!
I've put a zip file with pictures from Saturday's dinner on my web site.
The site isn't officially online, but if you use the exact url, you
should be able to retrieve the files.
www.buckeyeaero.com/RV10SaturdayDinne.zip It's a little over 6megs in
size.
Bob & Janice
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I concur. It is a joy to me to see builders helping builders. We will do
it again.
Gary
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US
SSA)
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 HQ
Bob,
Thanks for the thanks, great pictures too! One of the reasons that I enjoy
staying as part of an RV-10 group is the afternoon/evening chatter. I know
that I learn a lot every year just sitting around and listening. Now that
I'm flying I find it very rewarding to pass along things that I've picked up
over time.
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 HQ
First, I would like to publically thank Bob, Gary, Michael, and Tim for
coordinating the RV-10 HQ Campsite at Airventure this year. Without the
efforts of these gentlemen (Brenda, Susan, and Andrea too) we wouldn't have
had the great experience we all had this year.
I know that I came away much more knowledgeable about the tasks in front of
me after talking with these gentlemen and the others that hung out at the
RV-10 HQ campsite. I find the camp site much more educational than most of
the forums.
Unfortunately, my wife and I were late on Friday and didn't get a chance to
meet all the new folks that only made it to Friday's dinner. Friday night
got a little crazy for us. While attempting to listen to Lt. Dan's Band, we
got calls from our son who was stranded by United at O'hare on his way home
from Ellsworth AFB and our daughter upset that her band camp got canceled
due to a rabid bat being found in one of their cabins. Things worked out
well, even though it was hectic for a little while.
Janice and I had to bug out early for a 7:30 breakfast on Saturday. I
ended up getting a 5th place Web Editor award for our chapter's web site
that I just put up a couple weeks before the show. For those that we didn't
get to say goodbye, both Janice and I enjoyed meeting everyone. Hopefully
we'll get to do it all over again next year!
I've put a zip file with pictures from Saturday's dinner on my web site.
The site isn't officially online, but if you use the exact url, you should
be able to retrieve the files.
www.buckeyeaero.com/RV10SaturdayDinne.zip It's a little over 6megs in
size.
Bob & Janice
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http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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We'd like to pile on here and extend the same thanks to the RV-10
Campsite team - especially Bob & Susan and Gary & Brenda - for their
work, hospitality, and best of all, advice and counsel.
This being my 2nd year, I was looking forward to bringing Alicia this
year. She was not disappointed!
We hope to make again next year, despite the minor inconvenience of
having to fly into Fond-du-Lac instead of the main show....
"not coming back to Airventure until we can do it in the '10"
Bill Watson & Alicia Ortiz
...and since the Blue Devils and Tigers field such sad football teams -
I don't mind adding, "Go Dawgs"
Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> First, I would like to publically thank Bob, Gary, Michael, and Tim
> for coordinating the RV-10 HQ Campsite at Airventure this year.
> Without the efforts of these gentlemen (Brenda, Susan, and Andrea too)
> we wouldn't have had the great experience we all had this year.
>
>
>
> I know that I came away much more knowledgeable about the tasks in
> front of me after talking with these gentlemen and the others that
> hung out at the RV-10 HQ campsite. I find the camp site much more
> educational than most of the forums.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, my wife and I were late on Friday and didn't get a
> chance to meet all the new folks that only made it to Friday's
> dinner. Friday night got a little crazy for us. While attempting to
> listen to Lt. Dan's Band, we got calls from our son who was stranded
> by United at O'hare on his way home from Ellsworth AFB and our
> daughter upset that her band camp got canceled due to a rabid bat
> being found in one of their cabins. Things worked out well, even
> though it was hectic for a little while.
>
>
>
> Janice and I had to bug out early for a 7:30 breakfast on Saturday.
> I ended up getting a 5^th place Web Editor award for our chapter's web
> site that I just put up a couple weeks before the show. For those that
> we didn't get to say goodbye, both Janice and I enjoyed meeting
> everyone. Hopefully we'll get to do it all over again next year!
>
>
>
> I've put a zip file with pictures from Saturday's dinner on my web
> site. The site isn't officially online, but if you use the exact url,
> you should be able to retrieve the files.
>
>
>
> www.buckeyeaero.com/RV10SaturdayDinne.zip
> <http://www.buckeyeaero.com/RV10SaturdayDinne.zip> It's a little
> over 6megs in size.
>
>
>
> Bob & Janice
>
>
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | door lock size requirement |
Does anyone know if the same size lock (5/8) used for the baggage door
would also work on the canopy doors? I don't know the if space between
the exterior door and the door rod requires a larger lock since I don't
have the doors yet, just a few extra 5/8 locks.
Thanks!
Pascal
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| Subject: | WARNING: Epoxy filler |
Hey kids,
I was just catching up on old DIGEST messages...and thought I needed to pos
t in regard to the message below.
I am using the West Systems Epoxy like most...but be warned about the 410 f
iller. It doesn't say it on the Aircraft Spruce site, nor in their catalog
, but you can't use this filler under dark colored paint. Apparently it's
not good to let the stuff heat up and expand. I don't know the exact detai
ls of what the 410 filler is comprised of..but on the WESTMARINE.COM site,
it warns against it.
The ideal low-density filler for creating a light, easily-worked fairing co
mpound especially suited for fairing large areas. Microlight(tm) mixes with
greater ease than #407 Low-Density filler or microballoons and is approxim
ately 30% easier to sand.
* Feathers to a fine edge and is also more economical for large fai
ring jobs.
* Not recommended under dark paint.
* Not recommended on surfaces subjected to high temperatures.
* Cures to a tan color.
I am concerned that it will expand and 'POP', thus, I am not using 410 fill
er on anything. I spoke with another builder at Osh that thought it had "p
lastic" content. Again, I have not verified this. Do some homework before
you put this out in the sun on the tarmac. Especially if under dark paint
or stripes.
I am using the high density filler for its adhesive and structural qualitie
s, and just ordered the 406 filler last night to try out. I have micro-bal
loons, Chopped Glass, cotton flox in my shop. I agree that the West filler
s are the best and easiest to work with and so I will stick with them.
Pete #40100
Time: 05:27:58 PM PST US
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: toner in windshield fairing
They have a variety:
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/options.html
http://www.westsystem.com/
Go to the product guide
410 Microlight is just one of the things you'll use tons of.
Great stuff, sands well. The guy who helped paint was impressed as heck wi
th it.
406 Colloidal silica is another one you'll use, along with one other that I
can't remember right now.
You'll go through cans and cans of 410 by the time you're done with the pro
ject, and gallons of epoxy. People have no idea how much you can spend on
epoxy supplies to finish the kit...it's hundreds of dollars.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Car Radio output to headphones |
I don't know if this has been addressed before, but does anyone know what I need
to do to be able to listen to the DVD, XM, audio player I am installing in my
RV10 with headphones? There is no headphone output jack on the player. It
only has wires for speakers.
Thanks,
Greg Hale
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Greg Hale rv8/rv10
www.nwacaptain.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198235#198235
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| Subject: | Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
how about if you connected it to the aux port in your audio panel? aka you
would use "aux" to listen to the DVD/XM music.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "greghale" <ghale5224@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Car Radio output to headphones
>
> I don't know if this has been addressed before, but does anyone know what
> I need to do to be able to listen to the DVD, XM, audio player I am
> installing in my RV10 with headphones? There is no headphone output jack
> on the player. It only has wires for speakers.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg Hale
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv8/rv10
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198235#198235
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
You will need to wire the output of the radio into your intercom and then most
likely put all the inputs into your stereo.
Which intercom and stereo are you using first and I bet we can look up the intercom
wiring online as well as the stereo system you are using.
I have a DVD/CD, XM radio, iPod all fed into my Pioneer stereo then to my PS Engineering
intercom and it works great.
My stereo accepts the inputs and then outputs to the intercom through two wires.
On the PS Engineering intercom I have is a "karaoke" mode that allows the music
to keep playing even though I am talking or someone is talking to me. This is
done through the MUTE button.
It shuts off if I pull the mic on.
It makes it really nice. I'm not sure if you can do that with the Garmin stuff.
I do know that on new planes with the G1000 or Avidyne anytime anyone talks
in the plane or radio it mutes the radio and then takes a second to come back
on. People who fly with these systems and then fly with me just love the fact
that the music keep playing in the background while I listen to radio calls.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:15:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Car Radio output to headphones
I don't know if this has been addressed before, but does anyone know what I need
to do to be able to listen to the DVD, XM, audio player I am installing in my
RV10 with headphones? There is no headphone output jack on the player. It
only has wires for speakers.
Thanks,
Greg Hale
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Greg Hale rv8/rv10
www.nwacaptain.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198235#198235
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| Subject: | Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
No kidding, Karaoke mode is awesome! It's the one time the
world can stand to have me yelling out to my favorite tunes...
when I'm 10,000' above the land and have a loud engine
that keeps anyone from hearing me. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> You will need to wire the output of the radio into your intercom and
> then most likely put all the inputs into your stereo.
> Which intercom and stereo are you using first and I bet we can look up
> the intercom wiring online as well as the stereo system you are using.
>
> I have a DVD/CD, XM radio, iPod all fed into my Pioneer stereo then to
> my PS Engineering intercom and it works great.
> My stereo accepts the inputs and then outputs to the intercom through
> two wires.
> On the PS Engineering intercom I have is a "karaoke" mode that allows
> the music to keep playing even though I am talking or someone is talking
> to me. This is done through the MUTE button.
> It shuts off if I pull the mic on.
>
> It makes it really nice. I'm not sure if you can do that with the
> Garmin stuff. I do know that on new planes with the G1000 or Avidyne
> anytime anyone talks in the plane or radio it mutes the radio and then
> takes a second to come back on. People who fly with these systems and
> then fly with me just love the fact that the music keep playing in the
> background while I listen to radio calls.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:15:24 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Car Radio output to headphones
>
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| Subject: | Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
I am using Garmin's audio panel for my intercom. The stereo I have is the Valor
ITS-720W Mobile Multi-Media System. Everything DVD, XM radio control, IPOD
input plug, FM radio are all installed in the unit. The output of the system
is eight wires. Two for each front speaker and two for each back speakers. There
is no two single wires for the audio panel. The system has a 35w x 4 amplifier
with 4.1 channel surround output. My concern is blowing the audio panel
with that much power. I was hoping to just provide a jack in the panel for
my LightSpeed headset to plug into. The LightSpeed headsets allows me to listen
to one thing and my wife listen to another by plugging a separate device into
the other headset box.
Greg...
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Greg Hale rv8/rv10
www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | Car Radio output to headphones |
" It's the one time the world can stand to have me yelling out to my
favorite tunes..."
Ahhh, so that was you I heard with the stuck mike! ;)
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Marcus
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Car Radio output to headphones
No kidding, Karaoke mode is awesome! It's the one time the
world can stand to have me yelling out to my favorite tunes...
when I'm 10,000' above the land and have a loud engine
that keeps anyone from hearing me. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> You will need to wire the output of the radio into your intercom and
> then most likely put all the inputs into your stereo.
> Which intercom and stereo are you using first and I bet we can look up
> the intercom wiring online as well as the stereo system you are using.
>
> I have a DVD/CD, XM radio, iPod all fed into my Pioneer stereo then to
> my PS Engineering intercom and it works great.
> My stereo accepts the inputs and then outputs to the intercom through
> two wires.
> On the PS Engineering intercom I have is a "karaoke" mode that allows
> the music to keep playing even though I am talking or someone is talking
> to me. This is done through the MUTE button.
> It shuts off if I pull the mic on.
>
> It makes it really nice. I'm not sure if you can do that with the
> Garmin stuff. I do know that on new planes with the G1000 or Avidyne
> anytime anyone talks in the plane or radio it mutes the radio and then
> takes a second to come back on. People who fly with these systems and
> then fly with me just love the fact that the music keep playing in the
> background while I listen to radio calls.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:15:24 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Car Radio output to headphones
>
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| Subject: | Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
You cannot plug any low power device like headphones or an audio panel directly
into high power outputs like speaker feeds. They will blow the headphones
or audio panel in short order. There are devices out there that will take a high
level speaker feed and give you low level outputs but you will eventually
toast the amplifier without it connected to speakers to use some of the power
up. Without the amp you will have nothing. It seems odd that something with
all that capability doesn't have low level out on it but if that's truly the case
you are better off selling it on eBay or returning it for something that has
low level out's.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:16 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Car Radio output to headphones
I am using Garmin's audio panel for my intercom. The stereo I have is the Valor
ITS-720W Mobile Multi-Media System. Everything DVD, XM radio control, IPOD
input plug, FM radio are all installed in the unit. The output of the system
is eight wires. Two for each front speaker and two for each back speakers. There
is no two single wires for the audio panel. The system has a 35w x 4 amplifier
with 4.1 channel surround output. My concern is blowing the audio panel
with that much power. I was hoping to just provide a jack in the panel for
my LightSpeed headset to plug into. The LightSpeed headsets allows me to listen
to one thing and my wife listen to another by plugging a separate device into
the other headset box.
Greg...
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| Subject: | Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
I couldn't find the 720 model, but most of Valor's units have RCA level outputs.
Check out the specs here:
http://www.valordvd.com/product/productinformation.asp?pc=MSU&productid=ITS-710W
Wire two of those RCA level outputs (L+R) into the intercom's music source and
you're good to go.
Awesome unit though! Is the screen pretty sturdy? I wouldn't want it to flap around
in turbulence... :)
Lenny,
#40803
just out of gear mount hell...
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| Subject: | Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
Sorry about my typing. It is the Valor 702W.
Greg...
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| Subject: | Re: Car Radio output to headphones |
I found the wiring diagram for the Valor 702W. Any ideas on what I can do or use?
http://www.valordvd.com/FileForDownload/InstallingGuide/ITS-702WInstallingGuide.pdf
I really appreciate the comments and help.
Greg...
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