---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/19/08: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Countersink & Bracket (Don McDonald) 2. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: Countersink & Bracket (Don McDonald) 3. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Countersink & Bracket (David McNeill) 4. 08:35 AM - Emailing: IMG_1204 (David McNeill) 5. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Countersink & Bracket (Don McDonald) 6. 12:20 PM - MT propellers (John Gonzalez) 7. 12:36 PM - Re: MT propellers (pascal) 8. 12:50 PM - Re: MT propellers (Rick Sked) 9. 12:52 PM - Re: MT propellers (Rick Sked) 10. 02:36 PM - Re: MT propellers (pascal) 11. 03:11 PM - Re: MT propellers (Rick Sked) 12. 05:35 PM - MT propeller vs. Hartzell (RobHickman@AOL.COM) 13. 08:32 PM - (tony Dubeansky) 14. 08:32 PM - (tony Dubeansky) 15. 08:58 PM - Re: No Title (bcondrey) 16. 09:01 PM - Re: No Title (bcondrey) 17. 09:34 PM - Re: MT propellers (Don McDonald) 18. 09:34 PM - Re: MT propellers (David Maib) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:40 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket We tried to design them in such a way as to do the job, but not to be a head openner should the unexpected happen.... turbulence or a crash. Don --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Lew Gallagher wrote: From: Lew Gallagher Subject: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket Hey Don, I've sent Pascal a revised list and mailing labels for the countersink, so we should be back on track soon. I like the bracket and will talk to my owner/partner and get back to you. Later, - Lew do not archive -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199435#199435 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:20 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket I was going to slip one in the package... guess I should have.- Not tryin g to make money here, just trying to maximize the benefit of having a shop that produce just about anything. Will take pics when it's installed.- Should be this week. Don --- On Mon, 8/18/08, pascal wrote: From: pascal Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket you mean to tell me you didn't send the brackets too? I would be interested in seeing how they turn out for you so take pictures. - I should get Lew's list around the same time I receive the CS so as soon as I have both I mail it off to Charles. Thanks for sending out the CS. - Pascal - From: Don McDonald Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:03 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket Countersink is on it's way to Pascal.- By the way, I had my brothers shop punch out some brackets to hold the front belts up to the canopy when not in use.- Pics attached.- They're stainless.- I can punch out any quan tity, so for postage and $5.... let me know.- Plan is to micro-balloon 2 nutplates into the canopy. Don McDonald #40636 - would be finiahed by now, but a kitchen remodel came up to the top of the list! --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Rick Sked wrote: From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink #yiv1983210248 #yiv253978072 {font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:12pt; color:#000000;} Lol...you guys got to be kiddin me...is this a counter sink or a Yard Gnome ...May-I suggest you take a picture of it next to a local famous-landma rk close to you and blog this thing? The Today show would love it!! The cou ld call it "Where in the world is our countersink!!!" I've watched this thread for months, deleting them as they show up, but now it's interesting!!! This could move homebuilding into the limelight on the national media!!! I'm not kidding!!! Look where this 1 oz. part has travel ed!!! OK...I'll stop..Supper time...but Fox News would love it!!!!...I can see Gr etchen or Alysin twistin their legs (very nice and tanned- legs on both o f them)-and tellin all about us crazy, tool-sharing,-airplane builder s and how we have united!!! All kidding aside...would it not be neat to take a picture of this thing ne xt to something famous in your home town and making a story about it??-Th ose who don't-know me will just dismiss me as Rick S.,-the guy who knew James McClow...so sad too bad...-- Big Smile :) Let's eat!!! Rick Sked 40185 Honest...will fly in the next two months!!! really...cringing as I hit send !!! - do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "pascal" Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 4:52:26 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink totally my fault! Dr Fred sent it to you. I thought-you were-after me a nd asked to send to you. Had in laws and they really confused me these last few weeks. Take your tim e and send it my way, I'll have it out per Lew's list by end of the week fo r the next user. My lesson learned is that the in-laws will not fly with me. Although those negative G's would be a fun ride to assure they never did again anyway Pascal From: Don McDonald Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 11:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink Ok countersinkers, we now know where the countersink is.... my brother just brought us our mail from the shop, and low and behold, Fred sent it right back to me.- Fred, thanks for thinking of me, but there's labels inside t he package, and there was a reason there wasn't a label for me.... cause I already finished with it.- Anyway, Pascal, you're next on the list follow ed by Lew.- Since it's Sat. night, it won't go out until Monday, so let m e know if either of you still need it..... and I'll revise the list.-- Thanks Fred. Don McDonald #40636 Finishing --- On Sat, 8/16/08, Rick Sked wrote: From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink Bob, Just borrow mine when you need it. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kaufmann" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 8:04:01 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Countersink I would like to be on the end of the list, Bob Kaufmann 7602 Grove Acre Court Las Vegas, NV 89131 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Countersink drfred(at)suddenlinkmail. wrote: > John; > > Received and countersunk the 5/16 holes for the seat belts. Thanks. > > Will send on to Don McDonald in California. > > Fred Williams If possible, please add me to the end of the list. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198623#198623 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"'>http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RV10-List 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com /contribution 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:09 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket You might want to consider bending the tips of the bracket up so that the metal does not clamp the belt there. If the metal clamps the belt you may abrade the belt material against the fiberglass each time you replace the belt on the bracket. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket We tried to design them in such a way as to do the job, but not to be a head openner should the unexpected happen.... turbulence or a crash. Don --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Lew Gallagher wrote: From: Lew Gallagher Subject: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket Hey Don, I've sent Pascal a revised list and mailing labels for the countersink, so we should be back on track soon. I like the bracket and will talk to my owner/partner and get back to you. Later, - Lew do not archive -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199435#199435 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:31 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: Emailing: IMG_1204 This is a picture of a bracket I bent. Note the tips up at the outboard sides of the bracket. I pull the racket down and insert/remove the belt. No scraping of the nyloon material on the glass. Of course if you have leather there it may be a non issue. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:07 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket I don't have my calipers with me, but we left .25" for the belts with just a slight bend upward on the ends to hold the belts.- Can't see where ther e would be any clamping.- And the parts were tumbled, so there are no bur rs to create any fraying.- Where you-maybe-thinking that the center s ection of the bracket was not flush with the top of the canopy? Don McDonald #40636 --- On Tue, 8/19/08, David McNeill wrote: From: David McNeill Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket You might want to consider bending the tips of the bracket up so that the m etal does not clamp the belt there. If the metal clamps the belt you may ab rade the belt material against the fiberglass each time you replace the bel t on the bracket. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket We tried to design them in such a way as to do the job, but not to be a hea d openner should the unexpected happen.... turbulence or a crash. Don --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Lew Gallagher wrote: From: Lew Gallagher Subject: RV10-List: Re: Countersink & Bracket Hey Don, I've sent Pascal a revised list and mailing labels for the countersink, so we should be back on track soon. I like the bracket and will talk to my owner/partner and get back to you. Later, - Lew do not archive -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199435#199435 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:05 PM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RV10-List: MT propellers All said and done=2C does anyone know what the cost are on the shipping of the prop to an MT assembly center=2C the cost of assembly and then the cost back to your door step. These are additional costs that need to be worked into the equation. Thanks=2C John Gonzalez 409 Do NOt Archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:10 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers Jim Ayers out here in California offers MT props, last year he had an offer that was pretty good, that was before the Van's 1K discount for getting the engine and prop together. Check with him since you would need to go through him anyway since he's a assembly center. lessdragprod@aol.com Pascal From: John Gonzalez Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: MT propellers All said and done, does anyone know what the cost are on the shipping of the prop to an MT assembly center, the cost of assembly and then the cost back to your door step. These are additional costs that need to be worked into the equation. Thanks, John Gonzalez 409 Do NOt Archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:50 PM PST US From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers I had to pay an import agent $250 to get mine out of customs, customs would not deal directly with me. There is no duty for personal use items. It was a real pain dealing with customs, the agents were not polite, helpful or s hould I jsut say they were typical of most government agencies I've dealt w ith...BUT He did manage to whip out a whole list of import agents within a mile that he would be happy to deal with instead of me. Soooooo my next air plane will have an American made product on the nose thanks to the BS. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:19:06 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: MT propellers All said and done, does anyone know what the cost are on the shipping of th e prop to an MT assembly center, the cost of assembly and then the cost bac k to your door step. These are additional costs that need to be worked into the equation. =C2- Thanks, =C2- John Gonzalez 409 =C2- Do NOt Archive ==== ======================= == ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:53 PM PST US From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers Jim had mine assembled , not his shop,=C2-I think right from the factory and dropped shipped to international recieving in Las Vegas...see prior pos t for that fiasco. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "pascal" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:35:54 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers Jim Ayers out here in California offers MT props, last year he had an offer that was pretty good, that was before the=C2- Van's 1K discount for gett ing the engine and prop together. Check with him since you would need to go through him anyway since he's a a ssembly center. lessdragprod@aol.com Pascal From: John Gonzalez Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: MT propellers All said and done, does anyone know what the cost are on the shipping of th e prop to an MT assembly center, the cost of assembly and then the cost bac k to your door step. These are additional costs that need to be worked into the equation. =C2- Thanks, =C2- John Gonzalez 409 =C2- Do NOt Archive title="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV1 0-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums. matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com ======================== ==== ======================= == ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:51 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers I admit that deceiving since Van's specifically states when ordering "Prices include shipping from Germany to the nearest assembly center (see reverse). The customer is responsible for choosing the appropriate assembly center, assembly charges and shipping charges (if any) between the assembly center and final destination." Why did you need to do anything with customs? I would think the assembly center receives the prop and if they do nothing and have you pick it up (at the assembly centert) than that meets what is advertised, otherwise not what is covered on the order form. From: Rick Sked Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers I had to pay an import agent $250 to get mine out of customs, customs would not deal directly with me. There is no duty for personal use items. It was a real pain dealing with customs, the agents were not polite, helpful or should I jsut say they were typical of most government agencies I've dealt with...BUT He did manage to whip out a whole list of import agents within a mile that he would be happy to deal with instead of me. Soooooo my next airplane will have an American made product on the nose thanks to the BS. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:19:06 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: MT propellers All said and done, does anyone know what the cost are on the shipping of the prop to an MT assembly center, the cost of assembly and then the cost back to your door step. These are additional costs that need to be worked into the equation. Thanks, John Gonzalez 409 Do NOt Archive 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:11:02 PM PST US From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers Mine came in the box from the factory assembled and tested...Jim said it wa s the easiest way..and short of customs...it was. Since it came FedEx inter national customs required the package to be declared and inspected...of whi ch I wasn't good enough to do along with them. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "pascal" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:36:04 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers I admit that deceiving since Van's specifically states when ordering=C2- " Prices include shipping from Germany to the nearest assembly center (see reverse). The customer is responsible for choosing the appropriate assembly center, assembly charges and shipping charges (if any) between the assembl y center and final destination." Why did you need to do anything with customs? I would think the assembly ce nter receives the prop and if they do nothing and have you pick it up (at t he assembly centert) than that meets what is advertised, otherwise not what is covered on the order form. From: Rick Sked Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers I had to pay an import agent $250 to get mine out of customs, customs would not deal directly with me. There is no duty for personal use items. It was a real pain dealing with customs, the agents were not polite, helpful or s hould I jsut say they were typical of most government agencies I've dealt w ith...BUT He did manage to whip out a whole list of import agents within a mile that he would be happy to deal with instead of me. Soooooo my next air plane will have an American made product on the nose thanks to the BS. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:19:06 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: MT propellers All said and done, does anyone know what the cost are on the shipping of th e prop to an MT assembly center, the cost of assembly and then the cost bac k to your door step. 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I would like to compare the speed of my RV-10 with the Hartzell three blade to it. Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:58 PM PST US From: tony Dubeansky First time on the forum even though I have been reading it daily and finding it very helpful for over a year... I am presently looking for a good deal on an engine for my RV10. I have found 2 mid-time engines, but I'm not sure that either will fit Van's motor mounts. One engine is a O- 540-A2B. The other is a O-540-A1D5. I called Van's and they advised me that the Lycoming engines had to have a #1 dyno mounting style. They were kind enough to send me a certified Lycoming aircraft engines model designation breakdown, but I still do not have any idea of the mounting style of either engine. If any of you have installed either engine or knows if they will fit Van's engine mounts, let me know. Another subject: My wife and I had the pleasure of attending and and camping with the RV10 at Airventure this year. It was fun to match faces to the writings on this forums. (We had the motor home with the big trailer.) Airventure truly has something for everyone. I went there for the airplanes; my wife thought it was a craft fair. Thank goodness for the Craft Tent! Thanks to all who helped make the camp such a success. Next year, my wife, Diane, and I would like to contribute by fixing a Texas Barbeque brisket dinner for one night's dinners. Thank you for any and all advice, Tony Dubeansky ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:58 PM PST US From: tony Dubeansky First time on the forum even though I have been reading it daily and finding it very helpful for over a year... I am presently looking for a good deal on an engine for my RV10. I have found 2 mid-time engines, but I'm not sure that either will fit Van's motor mounts. One engine is a O- 540-A2B. The other is a O-540-A1D5. I called Van's and they advised me that the Lycoming engines had to have a #1 dyno mounting style. They were kind enough to send me a certified Lycoming aircraft engines model designation breakdown, but I still do not have any idea of the mounting style of either engine. If any of you have installed either engine or knows if they will fit Van's engine mounts, let me know. Another subject: My wife and I had the pleasure of attending and and camping with the RV10 at Airventure this year. It was fun to match faces to the writings on this forums. (We had the motor home with the big trailer.) Airventure truly has something for everyone. I went there for the airplanes; my wife thought it was a craft fair. Thank goodness for the Craft Tent! Thanks to all who helped make the camp such a success. Next year, my wife, Diane, and I would like to contribute by fixing a Texas Barbeque brisket dinner for one night's dinners. Thank you for any and all advice, Tony Dubeansky ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:41 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: No Title From: "bcondrey" Tony, Looking forward to the BBQ! Either of those will work. The 540 engines have mount ears that determine exactly what they will mate up with. The ones that you need are Lycoming part number 70456 and have the smaller holes (about 1.25" diameter). These just bolt on and are replaceable if you wind up with the wrong ones. They are available new (expensive) or used (the Rocket builders need the large hole mount ears). Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199586#199586 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:47 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: No Title From: "bcondrey" For archival and reference purposes, Tim O. has collected a LOT of info from over the last few years and has it at http://www.myrv10.com/tips/index.html. If you look at the Engine Tips link from that page you'll find info on the mount ears, engine model details and a lot of other stuff. Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199587#199587 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:38 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers I ordered mine through Van's.- It was delivered to Redding (American Prop ellor?) and they had it assembled ($600 +-) and free delivery since they we re delivery others in the area at the same time.- No problems whatsover. Don McDonald #40636 --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Rick Sked wrote: From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers #yiv1495155848 {font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:12pt;color:#000000; } Mine came in the box from the factory assembled and tested...Jim said it wa s the easiest way..and short of customs...it was. Since it came FedEx inter national customs required the package to be declared and inspected...of whi ch I wasn't good enough to do along with them. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "pascal" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:36:04 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers #yiv1495155848 {font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:12pt;color:#000000; } I admit that deceiving since Van's specifically states when ordering- "Pr ices include shipping from Germany to the nearest assembly center (see reve rse). The customer is responsible for choosing the appropriate assembly cen ter, assembly charges and shipping charges (if any) between the assembly ce nter and final destination." - Why did you need to do anything with customs? I would think the assembly ce nter receives the prop and if they do nothing and have you pick it up (at t he assembly centert) than that meets what is advertised, otherwise not what is covered on the order form. From: Rick Sked Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers I had to pay an import agent $250 to get mine out of customs, customs would not deal directly with me. There is no duty for personal use items. It was a real pain dealing with customs, the agents were not polite, helpful or s hould I jsut say they were typical of most government agencies I've dealt w ith...BUT He did manage to whip out a whole list of import agents within a mile that he would be happy to deal with instead of me. Soooooo my next air plane will have an American made product on the nose thanks to the BS. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:19:06 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: MT propellers #yiv1495155848 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1495155848 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} All said and done, does anyone know what the cost are on the shipping of th e prop to an MT assembly center, the cost of assembly and then the cost bac k to your door step. These are additional costs that need to be worked into the equation. - Thanks, - John Gonzalez 409 - Do NOt Archive 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"'>http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RV10-List 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com /contribution 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:38 PM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT propellers I bought mine from Jim at Less Drag Products and he had iit sent assembled from Germany. Saved me some bucks doing it that way. It has to be shipped to an airport with customs, but that worked for me in Minneapolis. I had to pay a customs broker a few bucks to shepherd it through the government maze, but it was still quite a bit cheaper than sending it to the nearest assembly center, (Chicago in my case) paying for assembly, and then paying to have it sent to me or driving six hours each way to pick it up myself. David Maib 40559 endlessly finishing On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:19 PM, John Gonzalez wrote: All said and done, does anyone know what the cost are on the shipping of the prop to an MT assembly center, the cost of assembly and then the cost back to your door step. These are additional costs that need to be worked into the equation. 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