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1. 04:17 AM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Rodger Todd)
2. 04:34 AM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Tim Olson)
3. 04:43 AM - LAS visit (David McNeill)
4. 05:24 AM - Re: LAS visit (Bob Kaufmann)
5. 05:48 AM - Re: LAS visit (Rene)
6. 06:03 AM - tip on wing construction (David McNeill)
7. 08:44 AM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Bill DeRouchey)
8. 08:57 AM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Kelly McMullen)
9. 10:18 AM - Re: tip on wing construction (MauleDriver)
10. 10:23 AM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
11. 11:10 AM - Speedbrake installation kit for RV-10 (Markaire, Inc.)
12. 01:47 PM - Re: Nose wheel fairing length (Lew Gallagher)
13. 02:35 PM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Carl Froehlich)
14. 03:24 PM - Re: tip on wing construction (David McNeill)
15. 05:27 PM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Dave Leikam)
16. 05:33 PM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Dave Leikam)
17. 05:51 PM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Matt Dralle)
18. 07:21 PM - Re: LAS visit (Robin Marks)
19. 07:32 PM - Re: LAS visit (David McNeill)
20. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Nose wheel fairing length (John Ackerman)
21. 08:01 PM - Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna (Carl Froehlich)
22. 08:12 PM - Local crash and my media interview (Rick Sked)
23. 08:23 PM - Re: Local crash and my media interview (Chris, Susie, Darcy)
24. 11:52 PM - Re: Local crash and my media interview (Rick Sked)
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| Subject: | Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
Hi Dave,
Go to http://www.comant.com and look for the VOR/GS/LOC entry in the single engine plane entries. Any of them will do; I personally went for the CI-158 C3, and Vans can supply any of them.
Best wishes,
Rodger
--- On Fri, 22/8/08, Dave Leikam <daveleikam@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> From: Dave Leikam <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
> To: "RV-10 matronics" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Friday, 22 August, 2008, 4:49 AM
> Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style
> VOR/GS/LOC antenna and where to get it? I do not want a
> "Bob Archer" style.
>
> Dave Leikam
> RV-10 #40496
> N89DA (Reserved)
> Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
Mine's a CI-157P Comant. Nowhere near $450.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/panel/antennas/index.html
It works better than my other one, which is the Archer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dave Leikam wrote:
> Van's sells a Rami for $137. Any other suggestions? Anyone? Anyone?
>
> Dave Leikam
> RV-10 #40496
> N89DA (Reserved)
> Muskego, WI
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Sked <mailto:ricksked@embarqmail.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
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> Dave,
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> Aircraft Spruce sells Comant brand whiskers for GS/LOC/VOR...hang on
> to your wallet though...about $450
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> From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com <mailto:daveleikam@wi.rr.com>>
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> Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style VOR/GS/LOC antenna and
> where to get it? I do not want a "Bob Archer" style.
>
> Dave Leikam
> RV-10 #40496
> N89DA (Reserved)
> Muskego, WI
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I will be in LAS for the dates Sept 29 ,30, Oct 1 for a company reunion; I
will be staying on the strip. Any recommendations for airports, hangars,
fuel etc. There should be enough time for a ride or two.
N46007 flying
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VGT is the closest, but talk to me off line. My email is above.
Bob K
702 767-3587
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List: LAS visit
I will be in LAS for the dates Sept 29 ,30, Oct 1 for a company reunion; I
will be staying on the strip. Any recommendations for airports, hangars,
fuel etc. There should be enough time for a ride or two.
N46007 flying
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I have flown into Vegas at least a half of dozen times and have found
HND
(Henderson) to be my favorite. LAS is not bad if you can find a parking
spot, but that is hard to do. On an Angel Flight mission, I flew into
LAS
arriving about 30 minutes after sun up and it was beautiful, the
controller
had me fly toward the Stratosphere, then hang a left basically flying
parallel to the strip, wish I would have had a video camera.
HND is about 10 miles to the south, plenty of ramp space, very nice FBO
(run
by the city I think), and a shuttle to take you to the Strip. Fuel was
$5.40 when I was there on the 4th of July.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List: LAS visit
I will be in LAS for the dates Sept 29 ,30, Oct 1 for a company reunion;
I
will be staying on the strip. Any recommendations for airports, hangars,
fuel etc. There should be enough time for a ride or two.
N46007 flying
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| Subject: | tip on wing construction |
The bellcrank and other inspeciton panels have #6 standard nutplates at the
corners. You might consider replacing these with single wing nutplates. When
the standard nutplate gets damaged there , the rivet on one end is under the
skin there. It changes an easy repair to one which requires some finesse.
BTDT.
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| Subject: | Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
My suggestion on the Marker Beacon antenna is to make it. The signal from t
he fan marker is very strong so there is nothing super critical about the c
onstruction. Mine and two others at WVI work great.=0ARun RG-58 to the wing
tip with a standard BNC. Take a 2" stub of RG-58 with a BNC and cut back t
he shield 1". Solder a long length of 18ga to the RG-58 center connector an
d strain relief with shrink tube. Cut the 18ga-37" from the end of the RG
-58 shield. This is shorter than a quarter wave length to accomodate the fi
berglass (per Bob Archer). Strip the insulation off the 18ga (purest approa
ch). Glass the antenna into the wingtip about 12" from most outboard wing
-rib and parallel to this-rib.-If you will install the Bob Archer ant
enna inside this wingtip then the MB antenna should be on the top surface w
ith the Bob Archer on the bottom.=0ABill DeRouchey=0AN939SB, flying =0A=0A
=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>=0ATo:
rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:33:53 AM=0ASubjec
t: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna=0A=0A--> RV10-List message
posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>=0A=0AMine's a CI-157P Comant.- Now
here near $450.=0Ahttp://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/panel/antennas/index.html=0A
It works better than my other one, which is the Archer.=0A=0ATim Olson - RV
-10 N104CD - Flying=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0ADave Leikam wrote:=0A> Van's s
ells a Rami for $137.- Any other suggestions?- Anyone? Anyone?=0A>-
=0A> Dave Leikam=0A> RV-10 #40496=0A> N89DA (Reserved)=0A> Muskego, WI=0A>
=0A>- - ----- Original Message -----=0A>- - *From:* Rick Sked <mail
to:ricksked@embarqmail.com>=0A>- - *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailt
o:rv10-list@matronics.com>=0A>- - *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:
22 PM=0A>- - *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
=0A> =0A>- - Dave,=0A> =0A>- - Aircraft Spruce sells Comant brand w
hiskers for GS/LOC/VOR...hang on=0A>- - to your wallet though...about $
450=0A> =0A>- - - =0A> =0A>- - - =0A> =0A>- - - =0A> =0A>
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- America/Los_Angeles=0A>- - Subject: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/
LOC antenna=0A> =0A>- - Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style VOR
/GS/LOC antenna and=0A>- - where to get it?- I do not want a "Bob Arc
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| Subject: | Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
Fan markers are likely to have disappeared entirely by the time you
are flying. They are so scarce now that I often wonder whether my MB
is working. FAA has mostly substituted GPS and DME for distance
determination.
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Bill DeRouchey <billderou@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My suggestion on the Marker Beacon antenna is to make it. The signal from
> the fan marker is very strong so there is nothing super critical about the
> construction. Mine and two others at WVI work great.
>
> Run RG-58 to the wing tip with a standard BNC. Take a 2" stub of RG-58 with
> a BNC and cut back the shield 1". Solder a long length of 18ga to the RG-58
> center connector and strain relief with shrink tube. Cut the 18ga 37" from
> the end of the RG-58 shield. This is shorter than a quarter wave length to
> accomodate the fiberglass (per Bob Archer). Strip the insulation off the
> 18ga (purest approach). Glass the antenna into the wingtip about 12" from
> most outboard wing rib and parallel to this rib. If you will install the Bob
> Archer antenna inside this wingtip then the MB antenna should be on the top
> surface with the Bob Archer on the bottom.
>
> Bill DeRouchey
> N939SB, flying
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:33:53 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
>
>
> Mine's a CI-157P Comant. Nowhere near $450.
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/panel/antennas/index.html
> It works better than my other one, which is the Archer.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Dave Leikam wrote:
>> Van's sells a Rami for $137. Any other suggestions? Anyone? Anyone?
>>
>> Dave Leikam
>> RV-10 #40496
>> N89DA (Reserved)
>> Muskego, WI
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Rick Sked <mailto:ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:22 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Aircraft Spruce sells Comant brand whiskers for GS/LOC/VOR...hang on
>> to your wallet though...about $450
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com
>> <mailto:daveleikam@wi.rr.com>>
>> To: "RV-10 matronics" <rv10-list@matronics.com
>> <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:49:00 PM (GMT-0800)
>> America/Los_Angeles
>> Subject: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style VOR/GS/LOC antenna and
>> where to get it? I do not want a "Bob Archer" style.
>>
>> Dave Leikam
>> RV-10 #40496
>> N89DA (Reserved)
>> Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: tip on wing construction |
Interesting... just as I finish putting the skin over them. Of course,
it shouldn't be a problem as long as you don't damage them - so curious
minds want to know, what happened? Just a mis-thread with a power
driver or ?
David McNeill wrote:
> The bellcrank and other inspeciton panels have #6 standard nutplates
> at the corners. You might consider replacing these with single wing
> nutplates. When the standard nutplate gets damaged there , the rivet
> on one end is under the skin there. It changes an easy repair to one
> which requires some finesse. BTDT.
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| Subject: | Speedbrake installation kit for RV-10 |
Would anyone be interested in a kit to install Precise Flight speed
brakes on a RV-10? These are the same units available on the Mooney -
there are also STC's for Bonanzas, 210's etc. They can be added after
the wing has been constructed - I just did it - but it is a lot of work
(ie a LOT of rivets have to be drilled out, doublers installed, 2 ribs
replaced, etc). If installed during construction of the wing it would
add about 25 to 30 hours to the job - doing it after the fact would be
about 3 weeks!!! The kit would consist of all doublers, brackets,
access plates, ribs, etc plus instructions - I could even supply the
speed brake itself (I'm a Precise Flight dealer). I'm guessing that the
cost, including the speed brakes from Precise Flight would be about $6K
but that is only a guess at this point. Anyone interested contact me at
markaire@gvtc.com or 830-439-2507.
Ed Markline builder # 40675
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel fairing length |
Hey John,
It took longer than I thought to get back to it but here are the pictures showing
the hole cut past the flange in the rear nose fairing. Everything lines up
and I don't see why it won't work just fine.
By the way, I ended up reinforcing several times the countersunk holes where the
fairing attaches to the gear on all wheels. This still seems like a weak point
to me, and we may go with countersunk washers to spread the force ... but
then it wouldn't look so slick.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199971#199971
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| Subject: | Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
Make your own out of a piece of wire and glass it into the bottom cowl.
A simple dipole will work well, and it will not be out in the breeze.
Something like 50=9D total length (25=9D each side), fed in
the middle with RG-58 coax, and don=99t worry about bending it
around the bottom of the cowl.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Van's sells a Rami for $137. Any other suggestions? Anyone? Anyone?
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Sked <mailto:ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Dave,
Aircraft Spruce sells Comant brand whiskers for GS/LOC/VOR...hang on to
your wallet though...about $450
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:49:00 PM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style VOR/GS/LOC antenna and where
to get it? I do not want a "Bob Archer" style.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | tip on wing construction |
paint shop tried to start the screw with power screw driver
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: tip on wing construction
Interesting... just as I finish putting the skin over them. Of course, it
shouldn't be a problem as long as you don't damage them - so curious minds
want to know, what happened? Just a mis-thread with a power driver or ?
David McNeill wrote:
The bellcrank and other inspeciton panels have #6 standard nutplates at the
corners. You might consider replacing these with single wing nutplates. When
the standard nutplate gets damaged there , the rivet on one end is under the
skin there. It changes an easy repair to one which requires some finesse.
BTDT.
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| Subject: | Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
Not as good reception. Maybe I can bolt a Bob Archer antenna to the
bulkhead instead of doing the SB!
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Ya, go do your SB and then get an Archer. HA! Seriously though, why
not an Archer?
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:56 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Van's sells a Rami for $137. Any other suggestions? Anyone? Anyone?
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Sked
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Dave,
Aircraft Spruce sells Comant brand whiskers for GS/LOC/VOR...hang on
to your wallet though...about $450
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
To: "RV-10 matronics" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:49:00 PM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style VOR/GS/LOC antenna and
where to get it? I do not want a "Bob Archer" style.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
Will this work for VOR/GS/LOC reception?
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Froehlich
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Make your own out of a piece of wire and glass it into the bottom
cowl. A simple dipole will work well, and it will not be out in the
breeze. Something like 50=9D total length (25=9D each
side), fed in the middle with RG-58 coax, and don=99t worry about
bending it around the bottom of the cowl.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:56 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Van's sells a Rami for $137. Any other suggestions? Anyone? Anyone?
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Sked
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Dave,
Aircraft Spruce sells Comant brand whiskers for GS/LOC/VOR...hang on
to your wallet though...about $450
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
To: "RV-10 matronics" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:49:00 PM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style VOR/GS/LOC antenna and
where to get it? I do not want a "Bob Archer" style.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
Chief Aircraft has the Comant CI-158C for $272.50:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/airsec/Aircraft/Antennas/ComantIndustries-NAV.html#ci157
Here's how I installed it on my Vertical Fin:
Page 1:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=dralle&project=564&category=0&log=60040&row=43
Page 2:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=dralle&project=564&category=0&log=60041&row=42
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http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=dralle&project=564&category=0&log=60639&row=10
Looks great. Should work great.
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
At 05:25 PM 8/22/2008 Friday, Dave Leikam wrote:
>
>Not as good reception. Maybe I can bolt a Bob Archer antenna to the bulkhead
instead of doing the SB!
>
>Dave Leikam
>RV-10 #40496
>N89DA (Reserved)
>Muskego, WI
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
>To: <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>rv10-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:23 PM
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
>
>Ya, go do your SB and then get an Archer. HA! Seriously though, why not an Archer?
>
>
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>From: <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
>Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:56 PM
>To: <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
>
>
>
>Van's sells a Rami for $137. Any other suggestions? Anyone? Anyone?
>
>
>
>Dave Leikam
>RV-10 #40496
>N89DA (Reserved)
>Muskego, WI
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: <mailto:ricksked@embarqmail.com>Rick Sked
>
>To: <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:22 PM
>
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
>
>
>
>Dave,
>
>Aircraft Spruce sells Comant brand whiskers for GS/LOC/VOR...hang on to your wallet
though...about $450
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Leikam" <<mailto:daveleikam@wi.rr.com>daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
>To: "RV-10 matronics" <<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:49:00 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
>Subject: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
>
>Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style VOR/GS/LOC antenna and where to get
it? I do not want a "Bob Archer" style.
>
>
>
>Dave Leikam
>RV-10 #40496
>N89DA (Reserved)
>Muskego, WI
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I second Rene's suggestion. I fly into Vegas a lot and prefer HND. It
has recently been remodeled and upgraded. You will be on the strip as
fast or faster going to HND then LAS. If you reserve a rent-a-car ahead
it is in and out. They have a courtesy van to transport you, PAX and
luggage to the terminal. I think it's $5 or $10 max / overnight. I have
paid a $50.00 landing fee at LAS.
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
I have flown into Vegas at least a half of dozen times and have found
HND (Henderson) to be my favorite. LAS is not bad if you can find a
parking spot, but that is hard to do. On an Angel Flight mission, I
flew into LAS arriving about 30 minutes after sun up and it was
beautiful, the controller had me fly toward the Stratosphere, then hang
a left basically flying parallel to the strip, wish I would have had a
video camera.
HND is about 10 miles to the south, plenty of ramp space, very nice FBO
(run by the city I think), and a shuttle to take you to the Strip. Fuel
was $5.40 when I was there on the 4th of July.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List: LAS visit
I will be in LAS for the dates Sept 29 ,30, Oct 1 for a company reunion;
I will be staying on the strip. Any recommendations for airports,
hangars, fuel etc. There should be enough time for a ride or two.
N46007 flying
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LAS was never a consideration; I was there a couple of times a few years ago
and noticed the dramatically rising fees to keep GA out.
_____
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
I second Rene's suggestion. I fly into Vegas a lot and prefer HND. It has
recently been remodeled and upgraded. You will be on the strip as fast or
faster going to HND then LAS. If you reserve a rent-a-car ahead it is in and
out. They have a courtesy van to transport you, PAX and luggage to the
terminal. I think it's $5 or $10 max / overnight. I have paid a $50.00
landing fee at LAS.
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
I have flown into Vegas at least a half of dozen times and have found HND
(Henderson) to be my favorite. LAS is not bad if you can find a parking
spot, but that is hard to do. On an Angel Flight mission, I flew into LAS
arriving about 30 minutes after sun up and it was beautiful, the controller
had me fly toward the Stratosphere, then hang a left basically flying
parallel to the strip, wish I would have had a video camera.
HND is about 10 miles to the south, plenty of ramp space, very nice FBO (run
by the city I think), and a shuttle to take you to the Strip. Fuel was
$5.40 when I was there on the 4th of July.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List: LAS visit
I will be in LAS for the dates Sept 29 ,30, Oct 1 for a company reunion; I
will be staying on the strip. Any recommendations for airports, hangars,
fuel etc. There should be enough time for a ride or two.
N46007 flying
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel fairing length |
Thanks, Lew. That's a really nice fit, and you don't have to fiddle
with riveting the scrap back!
We wound up just slightly (1/4") fitting the rear nose wheel fairing
to the vertical post, and letting the rear fairing be long.
On the suggestion of an experienced local builder, we put a couple
layers of 9 oz. where the bracket-fairing mounting screws are before
glassing the bracket/fairing mounting pads. Good idea! All seems well.
The forward nose wheel fairing is not thick enough, so there is a flow
"trip" where the intersection is. Doing it over again, I would put a
few layers of glass on the interior of the forward fairing before
fitting and match drilling the two. That would smooth the intersection
and also reinforce the countersunk holes in the forward fairing. Am
contemplating whether or not do to something similar even now,
although keeping the hole locations would be tough. Alternatively, the
area will have to be faired out with micro.
John Ackerman 40458
On Aug 22, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Lew Gallagher wrote:
>
> Hey John,
>
> It took longer than I thought to get back to it but here are the
> pictures showing the hole cut past the flange in the rear nose
> fairing. Everything lines up and I don't see why it won't work just
> fine.
>
> By the way, I ended up reinforcing several times the countersunk
> holes where the fairing attaches to the gear on all wheels. This
> still seems like a weak point to me, and we may go with countersunk
> washers to spread the force ... but then it wouldn't look so slick.
>
> Later, - Lew
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| Subject: | Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna |
It will work the same as any other VOR antenna.
If your nav has a built in splitter like the SL-30, you need nothing
else. If not, then you will need to add a splitter so that you connect
the antenna to the VOR and GS antenna connections.
The electrical properties of this or any other dipole (whisker) type VOR
antennas are essentially the same. The fact that glide slope frequencies
(329-335 MHz) are an odd multiple of VOR frequencies (108-118MHz) is why
one antenna tuned as a half wave dipole for the lower frequency works
just as well on the higher frequency.
While an antenna mounted in the cowl will have some shadowing of aft
stations and thus not perform as well as one in the clear (like the top
of the VS), for most practical applications I would estimate the
difference will be minor.
Considering the high signal strengths for close in work (VOR or ILS
approaches) and that my cross country navigation is GPS, I do not see
any gain to have a perfectly optimized VOR antenna. Your application
may be different.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Will this work for VOR/GS/LOC reception?
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Make your own out of a piece of wire and glass it into the bottom cowl.
A simple dipole will work well, and it will not be out in the breeze.
Something like 50=9D total length (25=9D each side), fed in
the middle with RG-58 coax, and don=99t worry about bending it
around the bottom of the cowl.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Van's sells a Rami for $137. Any other suggestions? Anyone? Anyone?
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Sked <mailto:ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Dave,
Aircraft Spruce sells Comant brand whiskers for GS/LOC/VOR...hang on to
your wallet though...about $450
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:49:00 PM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Cat whisker VOR/GS/LOC antenna
Can anyone recommend a good "whisker" style VOR/GS/LOC antenna and where
to get it? I do not want a "Bob Archer" style.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Local crash and my media interview |
After a=C2- Velocity 173 RG=C2-went down today into a house at VGT , th
e airport manager for Clark County is calling for a ban of all experimental
aircraft at HND , VGT , LAS . I was contacted by the media today to commen
t on behalf of experimental and home built aircraft, I'm friends with the C
BS affiliate news director and he knows about my project. The news crew spe
nt over an hour looking and filming all the time interviewing me.=C2-at m
y RV-10 , and asking a bunch of questions...since I have a background in li
tigation's and depositions the cub reporter didn't get a leg up on me when
trying to get me to agree or disagree with the comments of the Airport Mana
ger. But there is always the edit thing to consider and out of context stuf
f I'm sure I may have to defend. Bottom line, a Velocity lost power on take
off and went right into a residential home 1 mile south of the runway..kil
ling the 2=C2-homeowners and the pilot. The news managed to get a copy of
the local EAA chapter news letter that said...August- Too hot to fly!!! Th
is was in regards to other months where fly outs were planned. So they assu
med it's too hot to fly!!! I explained density altitude to the deer in the
headlight reporter.=C2-The velocity departed at 0630 local...temp was abo
ut 85 max...no factor=C2-for a good running Velocity. I did my best to de
fend our hobby and passion. Explain the 51 percent rule, challenged any one
to examine my aircraft, even encouraged it. I must have said choices and r
isk management 20 times. Talked about weather and knowing the limitations o
f yourself and your rating, how important fuel management was. Didn't specu
late on the crash today except that it was tragic and y thoughts and prayer
s went out to all who experienced a loss. Showed them the RV-10 plans, show
ed them the FAA circular 43.13 and how we complied with these best practice
s, showed them my panel all fired up, told them our creed in the EAA was ed
ucation and recreation. I really went to bat for how we do things better be
casue they are our airplanes and our families.=C2-They want to come back
at 11 PM.... UGH and go live with me...I have an hour to respond...what do
you guys think??? I know it's late...should I put myself out there again, l
ive on TV?? Those watching let me know your thoughts..we have about an hour
before I need to call and say yes or no....I really hope I did us proud, t
he EAA and all of the members proud and everyone of us who enjoy this freed
om. Comment fast please if your there.
Rick Sked
40185
15 minutes of fame
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McNeill " < dlm46007 @cox.net>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:32:11 PM ( GMT-0800 ) America/ Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List : LAS visit
LAS was never a consideration; I was there a couple of times a few years ag
o and noticed the dramatically rising fees to keep GA out.
From: owner-rv10-list-server @ matronics .com [ mailto : owner-rv10-list-se
rver @ matronics .com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List : LAS visit
I second Rene=99s suggestion. I fly into Vegas a lot and prefer HND .
It has recently been remodeled and upgraded. You will be on the strip as f
ast or faster going to HND then LAS . If you reserve a rent-a-car ahead it
is in and out. They have a courtesy van to transport you, PAX and luggage t
o the terminal. I think it=99s $5 or $10 max / overnight. I have paid
a $50.00 landing fee at LAS .
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server @ matronics .com [ mailto : owner-rv10-list-se
rver @ matronics .com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List : LAS visit
I have flown into Vegas at least a half of dozen times and have found HND (
Henderson) to be my favorite. LAS is not bad if you can find a parking spot
, but that is hard to do.=C2- On an Angel Flight mission, I flew into LAS
arriving about 30 minutes after sun up and it was beautiful, the controlle
r had me fly toward the Stratosphere, then hang a left basically flying par
allel to the strip, wish I would have had a video camera.=C2-
HND is about 10 miles to the south, plenty of ramp space, very nice FBO (ru
n by the city I think), and a shuttle to take you to the Strip.=C2- Fuel
was $5.40 when I was there on the 4 th of July.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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rver @ matronics .com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List : LAS visit
I will be in LAS for the dates Sept 29 ,30, Oct 1 for a company reunion; I
will be staying on the strip. Any recommendations for airports, hangars, fu
el etc. There should be enough time for a ride or two.
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| Subject: | Re: Local crash and my media interview |
If your confident then do it. Remember you can always answer a question
with a question. Airliners crash to ! Except for Qantas ofcourse.
regards chris
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From: Rick Sked
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Local crash and my media interview
After a Velocity 173 RG went down today into a house at VGT, the
airport manager for Clark County is calling for a ban of all
experimental aircraft at HND, VGT, LAS. I was contacted by the media
today to comment on behalf of experimental and home built aircraft, I'm
friends with the CBS affiliate news director and he knows about my
project. The news crew spent over an hour looking and filming all the
time interviewing me. at my RV-10, and asking a bunch of
questions...since I have a background in litigation's and depositions
the cub reporter didn't get a leg up on me when trying to get me to
agree or disagree with the comments of the Airport Manager. But there is
always the edit thing to consider and out of context stuff I'm sure I
may have to defend. Bottom line, a Velocity lost power on take off and
went right into a residential home 1 mile south of the runway..killing
the 2 homeowners and the pilot. The news managed to get a copy of the
local EAA chapter news letter that said...August- Too hot to fly!!! This
was in regards to other months where fly outs were planned. So they
assumed it's too hot to fly!!! I explained density altitude to the deer
in the headlight reporter. The velocity departed at 0630 local...temp
was about 85 max...no factor for a good running Velocity. I did my best
to defend our hobby and passion. Explain the 51 percent rule, challenged
any one to examine my aircraft, even encouraged it. I must have said
choices and risk management 20 times. Talked about weather and knowing
the limitations of yourself and your rating, how important fuel
management was. Didn't speculate on the crash today except that it was
tragic and y thoughts and prayers went out to all who experienced a
loss. Showed them the RV-10 plans, showed them the FAA circular 43.13
and how we complied with these best practices, showed them my panel all
fired up, told them our creed in the EAA was education and recreation. I
really went to bat for how we do things better becasue they are our
airplanes and our families. They want to come back at 11 PM.... UGH and
go live with me...I have an hour to respond...what do you guys think???
I know it's late...should I put myself out there again, live on TV??
Those watching let me know your thoughts..we have about an hour before I
need to call and say yes or no....I really hope I did us proud, the EAA
and all of the members proud and everyone of us who enjoy this freedom.
Comment fast please if your there.
Rick Sked
40185
15 minutes of fame
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:32:11 PM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
LAS was never a consideration; I was there a couple of times a few
years ago and noticed the dramatically rising fees to keep GA out.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:21 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
I second Rene=99s suggestion. I fly into Vegas a lot and prefer
HND. It has recently been remodeled and upgraded. You will be on the
strip as fast or faster going to HND then LAS. If you reserve a
rent-a-car ahead it is in and out. They have a courtesy van to transport
you, PAX and luggage to the terminal. I think it=99s $5 or $10 max
/ overnight. I have paid a $50.00 landing fee at LAS.
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:48 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
I have flown into Vegas at least a half of dozen times and have found
HND (Henderson) to be my favorite. LAS is not bad if you can find a
parking spot, but that is hard to do. On an Angel Flight mission, I
flew into LAS arriving about 30 minutes after sun up and it was
beautiful, the controller had me fly toward the Stratosphere, then hang
a left basically flying parallel to the strip, wish I would have had a
video camera.
HND is about 10 miles to the south, plenty of ramp space, very nice
FBO (run by the city I think), and a shuttle to take you to the Strip.
Fuel was $5.40 when I was there on the 4th of July.
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:43 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: LAS visit
I will be in LAS for the dates Sept 29 ,30, Oct 1 for a company
reunion; I will be staying on the strip. Any recommendations for
airports, hangars, fuel etc. There should be enough time for a ride or
two.
N46007 flying
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| Subject: | Re: Local crash and my media interview |
I think I did Ok...I had my cabin off during the initial interview, I put i
t on for the wrap up..it's ready so why not. Heres the link, my part isn't
there yet but maybe in the morning they will post it.
Thanks for the responses!!
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/story.asp?s=8883721
Rick Sked
Starting new diet again tomorrow!!!=C2- :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Sked" <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:11:55 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Local crash and my media interview
After a=C2- Velocity 173 RG=C2-went down today into a house at VGT, the
airport manager for Clark County is calling for a ban of all experimental
aircraft at HND, VGT, LAS. I was contacted by the media today to comment on
behalf of experimental and home built aircraft, I'm friends with the CBS a
ffiliate news director and he knows about my project. The news crew spent o
ver an hour looking and filming all the time interviewing me.=C2-at my RV
-10, and asking a bunch of questions...since I have a background in litigat
ion's and depositions the cub reporter didn't get a leg up on me when tryin
g to get me to agree or disagree with the comments of the Airport Manager.
But there is always the edit thing to consider and out of context stuff I'm
sure I may have to defend. Bottom line, a Velocity lost power on take off
and went right into a residential home 1 mile south of the runway..killing
the 2=C2-homeowners and the pilot. The news managed to get a copy of the
local EAA chapter news letter that said...August- Too hot to fly!!! This wa
s in regards to other months where fly outs were planned. So they assumed i
t's too hot to fly!!! I explained density altitude to the deer in the headl
ight reporter.=C2-The velocity departed at 0630 local...temp was about 85
max...no factor=C2-for a good running Velocity. I did my best to defend
our hobby and passion. Explain the 51 percent rule, challenged any one to e
xamine my aircraft, even encouraged it. I must have said choices and risk m
anagement 20 times. Talked about weather and knowing the limitations of you
rself and your rating, how important fuel management was. Didn't speculate
on the crash today except that it was tragic and y thoughts and prayers wen
t out to all who experienced a loss. Showed them the RV-10 plans, showed th
em the FAA circular 43.13 and how we complied with these best practices, sh
owed them my panel all fired up, told them our creed in the EAA was educati
on and recreation. I really went to bat for how we do things better becasue
they are our airplanes and our families.=C2-They want to come back at 11
PM.... UGH and go live with me...I have an hour to respond...what do you g
uys think??? I know it's late...should I put myself out there again, live o
n TV?? Those watching let me know your thoughts..we have about an hour befo
re I need to call and say yes or no....I really hope I did us proud, the EA
A and all of the members proud and everyone of us who enjoy this freedom. C
omment fast please if your there.
Rick Sked
40185
15 minutes of fame
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:32:11 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
LAS was never a consideration; I was there a couple of times a few years ag
o and noticed the dramatically rising fees to keep GA out.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
I second Rene=99s suggestion. I fly into Vegas a lot and prefer HND.
It has recently been remodeled and upgraded. You will be on the strip as fa
st or faster going to HND then LAS. If you reserve a rent-a-car ahead it is
in and out. They have a courtesy van to transport you, PAX and luggage to
the terminal. I think it=99s $5 or $10 max / overnight. I have paid a
$50.00 landing fee at LAS.
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: LAS visit
I have flown into Vegas at least a half of dozen times and have found HND (
Henderson) to be my favorite. LAS is not bad if you can find a parking spot
, but that is hard to do.=C2- On an Angel Flight mission, I flew into LAS
arriving about 30 minutes after sun up and it was beautiful, the controlle
r had me fly toward the Stratosphere, then hang a left basically flying par
allel to the strip, wish I would have had a video camera.=C2-
HND is about 10 miles to the south, plenty of ramp space, very nice FBO (ru
n by the city I think), and a shuttle to take you to the Strip.=C2- Fuel
was $5.40 when I was there on the 4 th of July.
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List: LAS visit
I will be in LAS for the dates Sept 29 ,30, Oct 1 for a company reunion; I
will be staying on the strip. Any recommendations for airports, hangars, fu
el etc. There should be enough time for a ride or two.
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