RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/25/08


Total Messages Posted: 34



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     1. 03:22 AM - Re: QB Wing Questions (David McNeill)
     2. 04:24 AM - Re: QB Wing Questions (Lew Gallagher)
     3. 04:43 AM - Re: QB Wing Questions (orchidman)
     4. 05:33 AM - Re: QB Wing Questions (Les Kearney)
     5. 06:06 AM - SpeedBrakes (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
     6. 06:15 AM - James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel pant (Ralph E. Capen)
     7. 06:17 AM - Re: QB Wing Questions (David McNeill)
     8. 06:33 AM - Re: SpeedBrakes (David McNeill)
     9. 06:33 AM - Re: James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel pant (David McNeill)
    10. 07:03 AM - Background - James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel pant (Ralph E. Capen)
    11. 07:28 AM - Re: Background - James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel pant (William Curtis)
    12. 07:48 AM - Re: Background - James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel pant (Ralph E. Capen)
    13. 08:33 AM - Re: QB Wing Questions (MauleDriver)
    14. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: QB Wing Questions (Dave Leikam)
    15. 12:08 PM - Nosewheel spacers U-1023 (Dave Saylor)
    16. 12:30 PM - Re: Nosewheel spacers U-1023 (Tim Olson)
    17. 12:30 PM - Re: Brake Linings (tintopranch)
    18. 12:51 PM - N929EH Flies! (Tim Olson)
    19. 01:26 PM - trim tab hinge pin (Bill Cannon)
    20. 03:53 PM - Re: Brake Linings (Marcus Cooper)
    21. 04:12 PM - Re: Brake Linings (David McNeill)
    22. 04:16 PM - Re: Brake Linings (David McNeill)
    23. 04:32 PM - Re: Brake Linings (David McNeill)
    24. 04:34 PM - Re: Brake Linings (John Cumins)
    25. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: Hartzell Composite Three blade (RobHickman@aol.com)
    26. 07:02 PM - Re: N929EH Flies! (John Strain)
    27. 07:16 PM - Re: Brake Linings (Don McDonald)
    28. 07:19 PM - Old fuse, new plans... (Lenny Iszak)
    29. 07:33 PM - Re: Old fuse, new plans... (Rene)
    30. 08:29 PM - DAR Costs (Robin Marks)
    31. 09:03 PM - Re: DAR Costs (Tim Olson)
    32. 09:22 PM - APRS System (Albert Gardner)
    33. 09:52 PM - Re: APRS System (David McNeill)
    34. 10:33 PM - Re: APRS System (Robin Marks)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:22:18 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: QB Wing Questions
    trim the forward edge of the skin with a file or sanding block because riveting causes flattening of the skin and extends it .010-.015. results in a slight ridge. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:41 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions Hi Les, There should be plenty of material for tapping the tie downs. I had no problem here. Just go slow, use plenty of oil, and reverse out the tap often to clear the threads. I then used a small angled pick to remove chips from the holes. I used a small Vixen file to put a bevel on the skin edges for overlapping. Again, go slow and steady and keep a constant angle. Be sure to remove some material from the aft edge of the skins so they do not buckle and cause oil canning. You'll see what I mean after you cleco the skins on the first time. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: LES KEARNEY <mailto:Kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions Hi This wekend I started fininihsing off my QB wings. When installing the botton skins, the plans reference step 5 on pag 16-2 that describe how to improve the "aesthetics" of the wing overlaps. While the plans suggest removing material from the overlapped skins, they neglect to say how to do this. The range of possibilities go from a chain saw to a jeweler's file. I think a sanding block with a fine grit sandpaper might work but was wondering what others have used. As well, I have a couple of tie down rings for the wings. Looking at the ring attachment points, it looks like the there is not enough material to allow tapping holes for the rings. Am I missing something ? Inquiring minds need to know. Les Kearney #40643 - some assembly required href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 04:24:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Questions
    From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
    Hey Les, On the forward edge (I think Dave may have also meant forward instead of aft ...?) I headed the advice of others and paid attention when clecoing to see what they were talking about. Sure enough, the forward edge needed to be trimmed on both finishing panels. Since the amount that needed to come off was consistent, I ran the edge of a felt sharpie along the edge of the aluminum to give me a guide mark, then just used the belt sander to shave it off. Then debur and it gave a nice straight edge -- no oil canning, but bruised upper arms stretching to the max to back those hard to reach rivets! Here's a copy of a previously posted rivet pattern, if you didn't see it. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0382#200382 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bottom_wing_skin_rivetting_pattern_168.pdf


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    Time: 04:43:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Questions
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    I also used the belt sander. Goes much quicker and I think you can get a very uniform taper. Watch it that you don't stay in one spot to long as the AL can get very hot. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0387#200387


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    Time: 05:33:31 AM PST US
    From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: QB Wing Questions
    Thanks Dave et all. I appreciate the advice. Damn, no chain saw.. Cheers Les #40643 - Some assembly required Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: August-25-08 4:21 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions trim the forward edge of the skin with a file or sanding block because riveting causes flattening of the skin and extends it .010-.015. results in a slight ridge. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:41 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions Hi Les, There should be plenty of material for tapping the tie downs. I had no problem here. Just go slow, use plenty of oil, and reverse out the tap often to clear the threads. I then used a small angled pick to remove chips from the holes. I used a small Vixen file to put a bevel on the skin edges for overlapping. Again, go slow and steady and keep a constant angle. Be sure to remove some material from the aft edge of the skins so they do not buckle and cause oil canning. You'll see what I mean after you cleco the skins on the first time. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: LES KEARNEY <mailto:Kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions Hi This wekend I started fininihsing off my QB wings. When installing the botton skins, the plans reference step 5 on pag 16-2 that describe how to improve the "aesthetics" of the wing overlaps. While the plans suggest removing material from the overlapped skins, they neglect to say how to do this. The range of possibilities go from a chain saw to a jeweler's file. I think a sanding block with a fine grit sandpaper might work but was wondering what others have used. As well, I have a couple of tie down rings for the wings. Looking at the ring attachment points, it looks like the there is not enough material to allow tapping holes for the rings. Am I missing something ? Inquiring minds need to know. Les Kearney #40643 - some assembly required href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 06:06:18 AM PST US
    Subject: SpeedBrakes
    From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" <tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero>
    I bumped into a guy at Oshkosh from Bend, OR, whose small firm had engineered a speed brake installation for RV-10s. He implied they had done at least one installation already. I think they were Precise Flight brakes. I didn't ask the price . . . TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend Aurora Flight Sciences tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile)


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    Time: 06:15:42 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel pant
    Folks, According to the James gang, a number of folks have converted a non-RV10 mainwheel pant for use as a RV10 nosewheel pant. I'm sorta doing this also as I have put a larger nosewheel fork assembly on my 6A and have upgraded the mainwheels to a larger tire. I had already purchased the James mainwheel pants so they are available for this mod. Here's what I have done so far: 1. Drilled and clecoed the two halves together so that it can be worked as a unit. 2. Measured and cut the bottom hole so the tire will stick out the bottom - I used the provided axel markings as my reference point. 3. Called Sam James to talk about the clearance between the top of the tire and the inside upper wall of the wheel pant. Sam graciously took my call on a Sunday, relieved my clearance fears, offered the info on other folks converting the main pant to a 10 nosepant, and reminded me to 'land on the mains'. 4. Measured and marked where the 'new' front cut will go - to accomodate the nosegear leg and fork. Here's what I'm getting ready to do: 1. Add the mudflap wall to the inside of the rear half - per instructions. 2. Fiberglass the original two halves together at the original cut line. 3. Make the 'new' front cut and glass in the attachment flange so it will go back together. 4. Install the (new one-piece-per-side) nosewheel pant attach brackets to the nosewheel fork. 5. Level the longerons on order to properly align the 'waterline' of the pant to flight level. 6. Drill the attach bracket holes through the pant and bracket. My real angst is the 'new' cut line....where should it go? My common sense tells me that the top of the aft part should end right behind the nosegearleg - but where is that? I tried to match the angle of the plans cut-line for their nosewheel pant and I'm not as concerned about the angle as I am the placement up top. I would appreciate any comments, suggestions, photos, measurements, and encouragement from anyone that has accomplished this feat of fiberglass manipulation. Ralph Capen


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    Time: 06:17:45 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: QB Wing Questions
    if you check the top skins on the QB wings you will find that Vans did not always follow its own advice. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:32 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions Thanks Dave et all. I appreciate the advice. Damn, no chain saw.. Cheers Les #40643 - Some assembly required Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: August-25-08 4:21 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions trim the forward edge of the skin with a file or sanding block because riveting causes flattening of the skin and extends it .010-.015. results in a slight ridge. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:41 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions Hi Les, There should be plenty of material for tapping the tie downs. I had no problem here. Just go slow, use plenty of oil, and reverse out the tap often to clear the threads. I then used a small angled pick to remove chips from the holes. I used a small Vixen file to put a bevel on the skin edges for overlapping. Again, go slow and steady and keep a constant angle. Be sure to remove some material from the aft edge of the skins so they do not buckle and cause oil canning. You'll see what I mean after you cleco the skins on the first time. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: LES KEARNEY <mailto:Kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: QB Wing Questions Hi This wekend I started fininihsing off my QB wings. When installing the botton skins, the plans reference step 5 on pag 16-2 that describe how to improve the "aesthetics" of the wing overlaps. While the plans suggest removing material from the overlapped skins, they neglect to say how to do this. The range of possibilities go from a chain saw to a jeweler's file. I think a sanding block with a fine grit sandpaper might work but was wondering what others have used. As well, I have a couple of tie down rings for the wings. Looking at the ring attachment points, it looks like the there is not enough material to allow tapping holes for the rings. Am I missing something ? Inquiring minds need to know. Les Kearney #40643 - some assembly required href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:33:47 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: SpeedBrakes
    checked their site. about 4K plus another 35-50 hours of labor. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:05 AM Subject: RV10-List: SpeedBrakes I bumped into a guy at Oshkosh from Bend, OR, whose small firm had engineered a speed brake installation for RV-10s. He implied they had done at least one installation already. I think they were Precise Flight brakes. I didn't ask the price . . . TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend Aurora Flight Sciences tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile)


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    Time: 06:33:50 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel
    pant Out of curiosity what is achieved by doing this? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: RV10-List: James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel pant --> <recapen@earthlink.net> Folks, According to the James gang, a number of folks have converted a non-RV10 mainwheel pant for use as a RV10 nosewheel pant. I'm sorta doing this also as I have put a larger nosewheel fork assembly on my 6A and have upgraded the mainwheels to a larger tire. I had already purchased the James mainwheel pants so they are available for this mod. Here's what I have done so far: 1. Drilled and clecoed the two halves together so that it can be worked as a unit. 2. Measured and cut the bottom hole so the tire will stick out the bottom - I used the provided axel markings as my reference point. 3. Called Sam James to talk about the clearance between the top of the tire and the inside upper wall of the wheel pant. Sam graciously took my call on a Sunday, relieved my clearance fears, offered the info on other folks converting the main pant to a 10 nosepant, and reminded me to 'land on the mains'. 4. Measured and marked where the 'new' front cut will go - to accomodate the nosegear leg and fork. Here's what I'm getting ready to do: 1. Add the mudflap wall to the inside of the rear half - per instructions. 2. Fiberglass the original two halves together at the original cut line. 3. Make the 'new' front cut and glass in the attachment flange so it will go back together. 4. Install the (new one-piece-per-side) nosewheel pant attach brackets to the nosewheel fork. 5. Level the longerons on order to properly align the 'waterline' of the pant to flight level. 6. Drill the attach bracket holes through the pant and bracket. My real angst is the 'new' cut line....where should it go? My common sense tells me that the top of the aft part should end right behind the nosegearleg - but where is that? I tried to match the angle of the plans cut-line for their nosewheel pant and I'm not as concerned about the angle as I am the placement up top. I would appreciate any comments, suggestions, photos, measurements, and encouragement from anyone that has accomplished this feat of fiberglass manipulation. Ralph Capen


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    Time: 07:03:33 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Background - James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10
    nosewheel pant Here's the background as I see it...... There have been a number of 'A' series aircraft that have nosed-over due to the nosewheel getting caught on something. Not gonna go in to who, what, when, where, why, or how in this discussion. Van's came up with a new leg, then a new fork. Some folks here in the US have modified a 10 nosewheel fork to fit the 6/7/8/9 nosegear leg. There is at least one builder in the UK that has designed and built a new nosewheel fork that fits the 6/7/8/9 nosegear leg. The purpose of these has been to get a larger tire up front and raise the height of the fork attach nut such that the potential for 'stubbing the toe' has been significantly reduced. In my case, the 6A already has a nose-high attitude which is accentuated by putting a larger nosewheel up front - so I went one size larger on my main tires, giving me a 6x6 size tire on the stock 5x5 rims. The Sam James mainwheel pants for the 6/7/8/9 are nice looking and aerodynamic and they don't make a pant for the 10 nosewheel - the 6/7/8/9 mainwheels are the same size as the 10 nosewheel so it would seem to be a good match. Hope this helps.


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    Time: 07:28:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Background - James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10
    nosewheel pant
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    I'm still a little confused; Are you building a 6 with bigger tires or are you trying to modify the James 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant to an RV-10 nosewheel? William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > > Here's the background as I see it...... > > There have been a number of 'A' series aircraft that have nosed-over due to the nosewheel getting caught on something. Not gonna go in to who, what, when, where, why, or how in this discussion. Van's came up with a new leg, then a new fork. Some folks here in the US have modified a 10 nosewheel fork to fit the 6/7/8/9 nosegear leg. There is at least one builder in the UK that has designed and built a new nosewheel fork that fits the 6/7/8/9 nosegear leg. The purpose of these has been to get a larger tire up front and raise the height of the fork attach nut such that the potential for 'stubbing the toe' has been significantly reduced. > > In my case, the 6A already has a nose-high attitude which is accentuated by putting a larger nosewheel up front - so I went one size larger on my main tires, giving me a 6x6 size tire on the stock 5x5 rims. > > The Sam James mainwheel pants for the 6/7/8/9 are nice looking and aerodynamic and they don't make a pant for the 10 nosewheel - the 6/7/8/9 mainwheels are the same size as the 10 nosewheel so it would seem to be a good match. > > Hope this helps.


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    Time: 07:48:52 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Background - James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as
    RV10 nosewheel pant Both - the bigger tires include the nosewheel which is the equivalent of a 10 nosewheel. I'm trying to put a SJ 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant on my 10 sized nosewheel. -----Original Message----- >From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> >Sent: Aug 25, 2008 10:44 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: re: RV10-List: Background - James Aircraft 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant as RV10 nosewheel pant > > >I'm still a little confused; Are you building a 6 with bigger tires or are you trying to modify the James 6/7/8/9 mainwheel pant to an RV-10 nosewheel? > >William >http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ > >-------- Original Message -------- >> >> Here's the background as I see it...... >> >> There have been a number of 'A' series aircraft that have nosed-over due to the nosewheel getting caught on something. Not gonna go in to who, what, when, where, why, or how in this discussion. Van's came up with a new leg, then a new fork. Some folks here in the US have modified a 10 nosewheel fork to fit the 6/7/8/9 nosegear leg. There is at least one builder in the UK that has designed and built a new nosewheel fork that fits the 6/7/8/9 nosegear leg. The purpose of these has been to get a larger tire up front and raise the height of the fork attach nut such that the potential for 'stubbing the toe' has been significantly reduced. >> >> In my case, the 6A already has a nose-high attitude which is accentuated by putting a larger nosewheel up front - so I went one size larger on my main tires, giving me a 6x6 size tire on the stock 5x5 rims. >> >> The Sam James mainwheel pants for the 6/7/8/9 are nice looking and aerodynamic and they don't make a pant for the 10 nosewheel - the 6/7/8/9 mainwheels are the same size as the 10 nosewheel so it would seem to be a good match. >> >> Hope this helps. > >


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    Time: 08:33:05 AM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Questions
    I did the 'scarf' on one wing using a variety of things. A die grinder mounted disk sander was most effective. I know it sounds like the wrong tool but it worked well. Sanding a scarf using a block with fine paper may exhaust your patience. Having done it, I did not think it worthwhile. Yes, look at what the QB builders did on the top skin overlap. They just knocked the exposed corner off at 45 degrees. Looks nice. I ended up not even doing that for the bottoms. I found enough material to tap the tiedowns. As recommended by others, use plenty of lube and back out often. This is not a place you want to break off a tap (as if there is anywhere you want to break off a tap). I used a vacuum to clean out the chips. Bill Watson LES KEARNEY wrote: > Hi > > This wekend I started fininihsing off my QB wings. When installing the > botton skins, the plans reference step 5 on pag 16-2 that describe how > to improve the "aesthetics" of the wing overlaps. > > While the plans suggest removing material from the overlapped skins, > they neglect to say how to do this. The range of possibilities go from > a chain saw to a jeweler's file. I think a sanding block with a fine > grit sandpaper might work but was wondering what others have used. > > As well, I have a couple of tie down rings for the wings. Looking at > the ring attachment points, it looks like the there is not enough > material to allow tapping holes for the rings. Am I missing something ? > > Inquiring minds need to know. > > Les Kearney > #40643 - some assembly required > > > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 10:09:26 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Questions
    Oops! Yes I meant forward, sorry. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:23 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: QB Wing Questions > > Hey Les, > > On the forward edge (I think Dave may have also meant forward instead of > aft ...?) I headed the advice of others and paid attention when clecoing > to see what they were talking about. Sure enough, the forward edge needed > to be trimmed on both finishing panels. > > Since the amount that needed to come off was consistent, I ran the edge of > a felt sharpie along the edge of the aluminum to give me a guide mark, > then just used the belt sander to shave it off. Then debur and it gave a > nice straight edge -- no oil canning, but bruised upper arms stretching to > the max to back those hard to reach rivets! > > Here's a copy of a previously posted rivet pattern, if you didn't see it. > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0382#200382 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/bottom_wing_skin_rivetting_pattern_168.pdf > > >


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    Time: 12:08:27 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: Nosewheel spacers U-1023
    For those who haven't upgraded to the new style nosewheel spacers per the Service Letter, here's what the wheel eventually does if the spacers are allowed to loosen up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZJ2E_qZxo I could feel this play in the towbar while moving the plane. This customer bought a new fork because it was cut up from the thin SS original style spacers. Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 831-722-9141 831-750-0284 CL www.AirCraftersLLC.com


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    Time: 12:30:05 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Nosewheel spacers U-1023
    That's exactly what does happen. Here are some photos that show it well too from an old write-up of mine. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060809/index.html Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Dave Saylor wrote: > For those who haven't upgraded to the new style nosewheel spacers per > the Service Letter, here's what the wheel eventually does if the spacers > are allowed to loosen up: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZJ2E_qZxo > > I could feel this play in the towbar while moving the plane. This > customer bought a new fork because it was cut up from the thin SS > original style spacers. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters LLC > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA > 831-722-9141 > 831-750-0284 CL > www.AirCraftersLLC.com > > > > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 12:30:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brake Linings
    From: "tintopranch" <mark_sutherland@yahoo.com>
    AircraftSpruce price is for each lining and you will need 4 at $16, I just purchased them...will purchase from Van's in the future, I just needed them faster than Van's could ship. -------- MARK SUTHERLAND RV-10 40292 Flying since June 07 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0492#200492


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    Time: 12:51:20 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: N929EH Flies!
    News from Saturday.....fellow RV-10 builder Ed Hayden did his 1st flight out in Hillsboro, OR on Saturday a.m.! He's got a great looking plane, as you can see here: http://www.myrv10.com/osh2/photos/N929EH.jpg He's got the Flightline AC system installed, which is one of the things that is unique about his plane. He reported that the plane flew beautifully, and handled real well...and he was very pleased with the performance. The first flight, however, did not go uneventfully, and here is where y'all should listen closely and prepare yourself... Ed has a lightspeed ignition on one side, and a slick mag on the other, just like I and many other have. In this case, the lightspeed was once again the one good thing he had going for him. As I understand it (sorry that it's 2nd hand) he got to 1000' on takeoff and the plane started missing real bad....making lots of noise. He radioed the tower of his problems and immediate need to return to land. He ran it on the lightspeed only (which only gives maybe a 10 RPM drop on the mag test) and said he had a beautiful landing. Upon having an A&P come over and test the mag, it was readily determined that this was indeed a slick mag failure. What ISN'T unique about this is that I now know of TWO RV-10 builders who've had slick mags fail on their first flight. So be aware any time you're flying in these current times with Slick mags having known problems, and if you get strange missing, perhaps try running on R or L instead of Both. It will most likely run much better than having that failed mag sparking at the wrong times. Now if they could only get their parts issues figured out at Unison and do an industry wide recall and exchange of these mags, or at least provide free rebuild kits to all owners, it would be a very good thing indeed. Thank goodness as experimental builders we have the electronic ignition options we do have...its becoming one of our great benefits. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD


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    Time: 01:26:06 PM PST US
    Subject: trim tab hinge pin
    From: "Bill Cannon" <bc777@optonline.net>
    Hi All, I have seen plans for a better way of securing the trim tab hinge pins somewhere but can't find any reference to it now that the time is approaching. I saw what looked like a pdf with instructions a while back. Does anyone have a link or if you have the pdf could you email it to me? Thanks so much in advance, Bill Cannon BC777@optonline.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0510#200510


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    Time: 03:53:39 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: Brake Linings
    Yep, I got the e-mail from AS&S and the price is per each lining, $16.95 x 4 - ouch, Van's is getting the order for sure. Rapco has the right part number in their catalog so they appear to make them, hopefully AS&S will start carrying them soon but right now they are still showing unavailable. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings You can figure about $15 per lining no matter which supplier you buy for aircraft; it goes on certified aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Thanks, good catch on the part number but I read it as price per lining so with the new price of $16.95 that would be double Vans price. I have a question in to AS&S so we'll see. If anyone has confidence that the price is per pair please let me know and I'll hit send on the order. My concern is because there are several airplanes mentioned that need 1 versus 2 of the same part number but the price is the same leading me to believe price is per lining. Thanks, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Brake Linings AS&S shows Cleveland version for 15.60 a pair, under Beech Skipper. So tax vs shipping would be the tie brake. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: > > It's time to replace the brakes and my research has found Tim's notes > of requiring Cleveland part# 66-112. However, Vans has a brake kit > with 4 linings and the rivets for $33. I'm guessing those aren't > Cleveland parts so I was wondering if anyone knew of RAPCO now had a > matching part? I'll happily order the parts from Vans, however I'm a > lot closer to AS&S and I'd like to save on the shipping since I have > to order the brake tool from them anyway. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 04:12:50 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Brake Linings
    If you are looking for a deal, I ordered 8 pads and 20 rivets from air suppliers in Texas. Each Cleveland pad was $13.08 and rivets were $.16 each. Fedex ground was $12.61. total $122.05. Because it is a part that goes on certified aircraft you have the FAA/PMA premium. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Yep, I got the e-mail from AS&S and the price is per each lining, $16.95 x 4 - ouch, Van's is getting the order for sure. Rapco has the right part number in their catalog so they appear to make them, hopefully AS&S will start carrying them soon but right now they are still showing unavailable. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings You can figure about $15 per lining no matter which supplier you buy for aircraft; it goes on certified aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Thanks, good catch on the part number but I read it as price per lining so with the new price of $16.95 that would be double Vans price. I have a question in to AS&S so we'll see. If anyone has confidence that the price is per pair please let me know and I'll hit send on the order. My concern is because there are several airplanes mentioned that need 1 versus 2 of the same part number but the price is the same leading me to believe price is per lining. Thanks, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Brake Linings AS&S shows Cleveland version for 15.60 a pair, under Beech Skipper. So tax vs shipping would be the tie brake. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: > > It's time to replace the brakes and my research has found Tim's notes > of requiring Cleveland part# 66-112. However, Vans has a brake kit > with 4 linings and the rivets for $33. I'm guessing those aren't > Cleveland parts so I was wondering if anyone knew of RAPCO now had a > matching part? I'll happily order the parts from Vans, however I'm a > lot closer to AS&S and I'd like to save on the shipping since I have > to order the brake tool from them anyway. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 04:16:09 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Brake Linings
    I am told that Vans sells the Grove brand and a set of four linings is $33. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Yep, I got the e-mail from AS&S and the price is per each lining, $16.95 x 4 - ouch, Van's is getting the order for sure. Rapco has the right part number in their catalog so they appear to make them, hopefully AS&S will start carrying them soon but right now they are still showing unavailable. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings You can figure about $15 per lining no matter which supplier you buy for aircraft; it goes on certified aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Thanks, good catch on the part number but I read it as price per lining so with the new price of $16.95 that would be double Vans price. I have a question in to AS&S so we'll see. If anyone has confidence that the price is per pair please let me know and I'll hit send on the order. My concern is because there are several airplanes mentioned that need 1 versus 2 of the same part number but the price is the same leading me to believe price is per lining. Thanks, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Brake Linings AS&S shows Cleveland version for 15.60 a pair, under Beech Skipper. So tax vs shipping would be the tie brake. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: > > It's time to replace the brakes and my research has found Tim's notes > of requiring Cleveland part# 66-112. However, Vans has a brake kit > with 4 linings and the rivets for $33. I'm guessing those aren't > Cleveland parts so I was wondering if anyone knew of RAPCO now had a > matching part? I'll happily order the parts from Vans, however I'm a > lot closer to AS&S and I'd like to save on the shipping since I have > to order the brake tool from them anyway. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 04:32:52 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Brake Linings
    I just called Vans and confirmed that they do not sell Grove for the 10 but do sell Cleveland 66-11200 , a set of 4 for $33. I ordered two sets. That is a deal. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings I am told that Vans sells the Grove brand and a set of four linings is $33. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Yep, I got the e-mail from AS&S and the price is per each lining, $16.95 x 4 - ouch, Van's is getting the order for sure. Rapco has the right part number in their catalog so they appear to make them, hopefully AS&S will start carrying them soon but right now they are still showing unavailable. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings You can figure about $15 per lining no matter which supplier you buy for aircraft; it goes on certified aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Thanks, good catch on the part number but I read it as price per lining so with the new price of $16.95 that would be double Vans price. I have a question in to AS&S so we'll see. If anyone has confidence that the price is per pair please let me know and I'll hit send on the order. My concern is because there are several airplanes mentioned that need 1 versus 2 of the same part number but the price is the same leading me to believe price is per lining. Thanks, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Brake Linings AS&S shows Cleveland version for 15.60 a pair, under Beech Skipper. So tax vs shipping would be the tie brake. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: > > It's time to replace the brakes and my research has found Tim's notes > of requiring Cleveland part# 66-112. However, Vans has a brake kit > with 4 linings and the rivets for $33. I'm guessing those aren't > Cleveland parts so I was wondering if anyone knew of RAPCO now had a > matching part? I'll happily order the parts from Vans, however I'm a > lot closer to AS&S and I'd like to save on the shipping since I have > to order the brake tool from them anyway. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 04:34:24 PM PST US
    From: "John Cumins" <jcumins@jcis.net>
    Subject: Brake Linings
    Sacramento Skyranch has 66-11200 for $16.64 and they do carry the RA66-11200 but do nut publish there price on line. There a great place to get parts and reasonable too. John G. Cumins President JC'S Interactive Systems 2499 B1 Martin Rd Fairfield Ca 94533 707-425-7100 707-425-7576 Fax Your Total Technology Solution Provider -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings I am told that Vans sells the Grove brand and a set of four linings is $33. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Yep, I got the e-mail from AS&S and the price is per each lining, $16.95 x 4 - ouch, Van's is getting the order for sure. Rapco has the right part number in their catalog so they appear to make them, hopefully AS&S will start carrying them soon but right now they are still showing unavailable. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings You can figure about $15 per lining no matter which supplier you buy for aircraft; it goes on certified aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings Thanks, good catch on the part number but I read it as price per lining so with the new price of $16.95 that would be double Vans price. I have a question in to AS&S so we'll see. If anyone has confidence that the price is per pair please let me know and I'll hit send on the order. My concern is because there are several airplanes mentioned that need 1 versus 2 of the same part number but the price is the same leading me to believe price is per lining. Thanks, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Brake Linings AS&S shows Cleveland version for 15.60 a pair, under Beech Skipper. So tax vs shipping would be the tie brake. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: > > It's time to replace the brakes and my research has found Tim's notes > of requiring Cleveland part# 66-112. However, Vans has a brake kit > with 4 linings and the rivets for $33. I'm guessing those aren't > Cleveland parts so I was wondering if anyone knew of RAPCO now had a > matching part? I'll happily order the parts from Vans, however I'm a > lot closer to AS&S and I'd like to save on the shipping since I have > to order the brake tool from them anyway. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 06:04:58 PM PST US
    From: RobHickman@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Hartzell Composite Three blade
    I have the MT govenor, speed test is scheduled for this week. Jennifer and I flew it to Seattle on Sunday and we got the following speeds: 8500 FT 2450 RPM Full Throttle 169-171 KTS True Airspeed Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)


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    Time: 07:02:47 PM PST US
    From: "John Strain" <aircarepros@yahoo.com>
    Subject: N929EH Flies!
    Congratulations Ed! Look forward to seeing your plane land here at Bend in the near future. I'm sure we're in your fly off zone. Breakfast, Lunch, or Dinner is on us. Thanks for believing in our capabilities as much as we believed in yours. John Strain Harold Custard Flightline AC, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RV10-List: N929EH Flies! News from Saturday.....fellow RV-10 builder Ed Hayden did his 1st flight out in Hillsboro, OR on Saturday a.m.! He's got a great looking plane, as you can see here: http://www.myrv10.com/osh2/photos/N929EH.jpg He's got the Flightline AC system installed, which is one of the things that is unique about his plane. He reported that the plane flew beautifully, and handled real well...and he was very pleased with the performance. The first flight, however, did not go uneventfully, and here is where y'all should listen closely and prepare yourself... Ed has a lightspeed ignition on one side, and a slick mag on the other, just like I and many other have. In this case, the lightspeed was once again the one good thing he had going for him. As I understand it (sorry that it's 2nd hand) he got to 1000' on takeoff and the plane started missing real bad....making lots of noise. He radioed the tower of his problems and immediate need to return to land. He ran it on the lightspeed only (which only gives maybe a 10 RPM drop on the mag test) and said he had a beautiful landing. Upon having an A&P come over and test the mag, it was readily determined that this was indeed a slick mag failure. What ISN'T unique about this is that I now know of TWO RV-10 builders who've had slick mags fail on their first flight. So be aware any time you're flying in these current times with Slick mags having known problems, and if you get strange missing, perhaps try running on R or L instead of Both. It will most likely run much better than having that failed mag sparking at the wrong times. Now if they could only get their parts issues figured out at Unison and do an industry wide recall and exchange of these mags, or at least provide free rebuild kits to all owners, it would be a very good thing indeed. Thank goodness as experimental builders we have the electronic ignition options we do have...its becoming one of our great benefits. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD


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    Time: 07:16:47 PM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Brake Linings
    I will do my best to NOT shop at Sacto SkyRanch ever again.-- Went in t here to buy some West System Epoxy Resin and was told they don't stock stuf f for them Experimental planes!-- See ya! Don McDonald #40636 SB done today --- On Mon, 8/25/08, John Cumins <jcumins@jcis.net> wrote: From: John Cumins <jcumins@jcis.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings <jcumins@jcis.net> Sacramento Skyranch has 66-11200 for $16.64 and they do carry the RA66-11200 but do nut publish there price on line. There a great place to get parts and reasonable too. John G. Cumins President JC'S Interactive Systems 2499 B1 Martin Rd Fairfield Ca 94533 707-425-7100 707-425-7576 Fax Your Total Technology Solution Provider -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings <dlm46007@cox.net> I am told that Vans sells the Grove brand and a set of four linings is $33. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings <coop85@cableone.net> Yep, I got the e-mail from AS&S and the price is per each lining, $16.95 x 4 - ouch, Van's is getting the order for sure. Rapco has the right part number in their catalog so they appear to make them, hopefully AS&S will start carrying them soon but right now they are still showing unavailable. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings <dlm46007@cox.net> You can figure about $15 per lining no matter which supplier you buy for aircraft; it goes on certified aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Linings <coop85@cableone.net> Thanks, good catch on the part number but I read it as price per lining so with the new price of $16.95 that would be double Vans price. I have a question in to AS&S so we'll see. If anyone has confidence that the price is per pair please let me know and I'll hit send on the order. My concern is because there are several airplanes mentioned that need 1 versus 2 of th e same part number but the price is the same leading me to believe price is per lining. Thanks, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Brake Linings <apilot2@gmail.com> AS&S shows Cleveland version for 15.60 a pair, under Beech Skipper. So tax vs shipping would be the tie brake. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: <coop85@cableone.net> > > It's time to replace the brakes and my research has found Tim's notes > of requiring Cleveland part# 66-112. However, Vans has a brake kit > with 4 linings and the rivets for $33. I'm guessing those aren't > Cleveland parts so I was wondering if anyone knew of RAPCO now had a > matching part? I'll happily order the parts from Vans, however I'm a > lot closer to AS&S and I'd like to save on the shipping since I have > to order the brake tool from them anyway. > > Thanks, > Marcus > > Do not archive > > =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:19:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Old fuse, new plans...
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    I've been scratching my had trying to figure out how am I going to screw the 6D bulkhead fittings into a 1 inch hole , where the fuel line exits the fuselage at the wing root. I just looked at the plans on Tim's site and as it turns out I have the Revision#2 plans and a Rev #0 fuselage. Even my Fuel selector bracket is different. Do any of you know why this was changed? The Rev 2 plans also show an extension rod for the fuel selector. I guess at this point I should just print Tim's plans and use those. Regards, Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0594#200594


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    Time: 07:33:02 PM PST US
    From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Old fuse, new plans...
    In my plans, the fuel line is one piece from the tank to the fuel valve. I used a rubber grommet in the 1 inch hole. Rene' 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: Old fuse, new plans... I've been scratching my had trying to figure out how am I going to screw the 6D bulkhead fittings into a 1 inch hole , where the fuel line exits the fuselage at the wing root. I just looked at the plans on Tim's site and as it turns out I have the Revision#2 plans and a Rev #0 fuselage. Even my Fuel selector bracket is different. Do any of you know why this was changed? The Rev 2 plans also show an extension rod for the fuel selector. I guess at this point I should just print Tim's plans and use those. Regards, Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0594#200594


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    Time: 08:29:48 PM PST US
    Subject: DAR Costs
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    RV-10 List, What are people paying for DAR reviews? Robin Airworthiness Certificate in hand...


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    Time: 09:03:02 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: DAR Costs
    They can charge what they want, but I think I paid $200-300 plus travel expenses. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Robin Marks wrote: > > RV-10 List, > What are people paying for DAR reviews? > > Robin > Airworthiness Certificate in hand... > >


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    Time: 09:22:53 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: APRS System
    Sam Buchanan wrote an article for Kit Planes (Aug. 2008) about the Amateur Radio guys (hams) and a system they had for automatically reporting position. He had put one in his plane and the article was about using it. I thought it was the neatest thing I had seen for some time so I got the equipment and made a transmitter for myself. I made mine portable and powered it with a battery pack I got at Radio Shack (a plastic holder containing 8 AA batteries) and got a 2 meter rubber duck antenna at Fry's Electronics. The switch is so I can turn it on and off. I taped the rubber duck antenna to the shoulder belt near the cabin roof and laid the unit on the rear seat with the GPS antenna laying on the glare shield. Seems to work great. I like the idea that position is available real time on the internet and friends/family can track and anticipate your arrival/rescue as required. Total cost is under $300 and the next step is to mount it in the plane and wire it into the plans 12V system with a switch just in case I'm doing something I would not like recorded. On the picture on the track the position bubble pops up if you click on any of the dots and give speed, heading, and altitude. The transmitter is only about 5 inches long, required from 9 to 30V and comes with a db-9 connector that you solder to the board and than connect the GPS antenna. It has an SMA connector for the transmitting antenna so you may need either SMA to BNC adaptors or a cable made up with the required ends. Hey, I have tracks to/from Oshkosh and a trip from Yuma thru CA to Oregon, Idaho, and back home. I used to fly to burn up gas but now it to make tracks! Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ N991RV


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    Time: 09:52:19 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: APRS System
    I plan to do a similar thing. I got my technicians license about a month ago but have been too busy flying and fixing to think about APRS. Byonics has developed an AIO (all in one) unit which I plan to power via a switch on the panel and place the unit and the antenna (a shortened aircraft bent whip) in the right wing/fuselage fairing. Probably won't get it working before first annual as I need to remove some interior panels on the right side. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: APRS System Sam Buchanan wrote an article for Kit Planes (Aug. 2008) about the Amateur Radio guys (hams) and a system they had for automatically reporting position. He had put one in his plane and the article was about using it. I thought it was the neatest thing I had seen for some time so I got the equipment and made a transmitter for myself. I made mine portable and powered it with a battery pack I got at Radio Shack (a plastic holder containing 8 AA batteries) and got a 2 meter rubber duck antenna at Fry's Electronics. The switch is so I can turn it on and off. I taped the rubber duck antenna to the shoulder belt near the cabin roof and laid the unit on the rear seat with the GPS antenna laying on the glare shield. Seems to work great. I like the idea that position is available real time on the internet and friends/family can track and anticipate your arrival/rescue as required. Total cost is under $300 and the next step is to mount it in the plane and wire it into the plans 12V system with a switch just in case I'm doing something I would not like recorded. On the picture on the track the position bubble pops up if you click on any of the dots and give speed, heading, and altitude. The transmitter is only about 5 inches long, required from 9 to 30V and comes with a db-9 connector that you solder to the board and than connect the GPS antenna. It has an SMA connector for the transmitting antenna so you may need either SMA to BNC adaptors or a cable made up with the required ends. Hey, I have tracks to/from Oshkosh and a trip from Yuma thru CA to Oregon, Idaho, and back home. I used to fly to burn up gas but now it to make tracks! Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ N991RV


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    Time: 10:33:16 PM PST US
    Subject: APRS System
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    One very important thing about APRS systems. They are small... I ordered mine about 2 months ago and can't find where I placed it. I wish I had an APRS system for my APRS system. Robin Do Not Archive




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