RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 08/27/08


Total Messages Posted: 31



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:34 AM - Re: Re: Old fuse, new plans... (William Curtis)
     2. 08:13 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Lables (Sheldon Olesen)
     3. 09:45 AM - Re: James cowl with a standard IO-540 ()
     4. 10:42 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Lables (gary)
     5. 11:22 AM - Composites for RV-10 (Dave Saylor)
     6. 11:24 AM - Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV (RobHickman@aol.com)
     7. 11:46 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Lables (Chuck Weyant)
     8. 12:55 PM - Re: Composites for RV-10 (MauleDriver)
     9. 02:12 PM - Re: Fuel Tank lables (Lenny Iszak)
    10. 02:23 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Lables (Cal Hoffman)
    11. 02:34 PM - Re: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV (Patrick Thyssen)
    12. 02:57 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Lables (gary)
    13. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Tank lables (gary)
    14. 03:19 PM - Re: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV (RobHickman@AOL.COM)
    15. 03:19 PM - Re: It's Official! (Patrick Thyssen)
    16. 03:20 PM - Re: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV (John Cumins)
    17. 03:29 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Lables (Don McDonald)
    18. 04:09 PM - RV-10 Composite Class Real Dates Nov 15 & 16 (Dave Saylor)
    19. 05:16 PM - Builder Available! (Jack Sparling)
    20. 05:50 PM - RV-10 HQ Article (Bob Leffler)
    21. 05:58 PM - Re: James cowl with a standard IO-540 (Barry Marz)
    22. 06:07 PM - IO-540; What Is Normal Oil Pressure? (Geico266)
    23. 06:53 PM - Re: RV-10 HQ Article (Rick Sked)
    24. 06:59 PM - Re: It's Official! (Rick Sked)
    25. 07:10 PM - Fw: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV (pascal)
    26. 07:12 PM - Re: It's Official! (gary)
    27. 07:17 PM - AFS WX & AP software (Jesse Saint)
    28. 07:21 PM - Re: RV-10 HQ Article (gary)
    29. 07:26 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Lables (gary)
    30. 08:53 PM - Seat Belt support Bracket (partner14)
    31. 09:51 PM - Aluminum Door Handles (truflite)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:34:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Old fuse, new plans...
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    > I like the idea of using the bushings because I want to run flexible fuel lines to the wing root. > > Do you know if anyone sells them, or do i have to make my own? Not that I'm aware of but I guess you can ask Bob Newman for the one he made and are not using because he is using the rubber washers. William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > Regards, > Lenny > #40803 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0822#200822 > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:13:01 AM PST US
    From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Lables
    Gary, I'd be happy to take a pair off your hands. Sheldon Olesen 5073 Hwy 70 Webster, WI 54893 We've been working on the upholstery ( about 1/2 finished) and doing some color sanding. The graphics guy is coming on Friday so most of the painting will be done. I do have to finish up some screw ups however. I think I'll get to the airport about mid-Sept. When I have your address I'll send you a check. I see the 'Dogs are ranked #2 in preseason so I'm sure Brenda is anxious for the season to begin. Sheldon On Aug 26, 2008, at 8:02 PM, gary wrote: > I had some fuel tank labels made and have a few extras I am willing > to part with. They fit nicely around the cap and I will let them > go for $12/pair shipping included. > > > Gary Specketer > > 40274 Flying > > <Fuel Lable.jpg>


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    Time: 09:45:53 AM PST US
    From: <thane2@comporium.net>
    Subject: James cowl with a standard IO-540
    I also have the BPA cold air and James cowl. I am ready to fly just waiting for this southern WX to get better. I will say this; the James cowl will work with the cold air of BPA, with no intake mods to the cowl. I made my own airbox using a monster cone K-&-N filter. It has taken more than 20 hrs. of fab work, but it just fits between the cowl, and I am able to put the cowl on and off by myself. Once I fly it and confirm its performance I would be happy to post some pics for those interested. Right now the bird is all cowled up and ready to fly, after 3.5 years of building. I am Jonesing bad right now. Anyway just my 2 cents. My whole goal was to let that big motor get lots of cool air and still not have to cut up that nice cowl intake. Thane States #40337 Ready to fly!! > The only difference in the 2 systems that Robin > mentions is how the intake pipes mount to the plenum > chamber. On Deems and a few others (Michael), the > intake pipes connect with a 72711 o-ring. With the > revision A plenum, we have swedged a 1-5/8 pipe to > the plenum and secure the intake pipe with a hose > and 2 clamps. This makes for a better connection and > gives a small increase in HP. However, it does not > change the location of the plenum or the servo. > > > > Allen Barrett > > BPE, Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Robin Marks > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:50 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: James cowl with a standard > IO-540 > > > > Danger Will Robinson, Danger Will Robinson! > > > > Michael it would be great if life were that > simple... For those that don't know I have: > > > > . BPE IO-540 w/ Cold Induction > > . James Plenum Installed > > . James Cowl Installed > > > > . Airworthiness certificate in hand > > . First flight ~2 weeks > > > > Sheril & I spoke extensively with Rod (amazing > builder) before & during OSH this year and there is > NO good news. There is absolutely no way that Rod's > unit will work with the James cowl and the BPE Cold > Induction. The space between the standard "Smile" > air inlet and the injector body is just too short. > The angles are all wrong and the spun canister > conflicts in a major way with components on the > underside of the engine and the lower cowl. A major > modification to the James cowl much like Deems did > would be required. Our goal was to leave the "Smile" > air inlet shape unaltered. > > > > Also of note there are a couple of different Forward > Facing Cold Air Induction systems available from > BPE. I happen to have the latest design which is > different from Deems. Additionally there are > different Injector Body sizes. Mine is 3.75" known > as the Model 300 while Deems has the Model 200 which > is 3.25". (sizes by memory). James did not know > about the different Cold Induction systems or the > different size Injector Body units. His response was > "REALLY? Can you measure again?". One additional > note is that both James have a bit of 2 week-itus. > They have been waiting for a customer to develop a > system and then send them a copy to use as a basis > for designing their system. IMHO you have a shaky > business model if you require your customers to be > responsible for your R&D. > > > > The largest challenge with the James cowl > installation is the air box. We believe we have come > up with a solution that is simple and straight > forward. Our design is not 100% complete and I don't > have photos (yet) of the transition from the > Injector body to the Air Filter but I should have > them soon. Attached are photos of the forward > portion of the air box / filter mounted to the cowl > very close to the air inlet. The angle of the filter > allows us to drop the lower cowl away from the > portion of the air box attached to the injector > body. Note that the injector body is less than 3" > away from the filter. If anyone saw the Bower unit > there is no way it would come close to fitting in > this space. > > > > General notes on the James Cowl. Deems has a good > write up on general fit however we seemed to have > different issues when fitting our cowl. There was > absolutely no way to get the lower cowl to fit as > is. We could get the front & right to fit but not > the left. Or the left & front to fit but not the > right. We fussed with it for 2 days with no luck. > When all else fails pull out the saw! We split the > lower cowl on the centerline of the cowl starting > from the exhaust outlet (nose wheel leg slot) and > ending up 5-6 inches from the scoop. This large > split allowed us to easily fit all sides and give > the cowl enough "relief" to attach w/o any tension. > 2 hours total time once we chose this path. All that > was left to do was patch the "V" void and the cowl > fit perfectly. (Cowl Filter 3.jpg shows the lower > cowl split patch) > > > > I am unable to comment on the standard cowl with the > any combination mentioned. > > > > Robin > > RV-4 Sold > > RV-6A 440 Hours > > RV-10 Soon > > RV-8A Purchased partially built > > > > (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > > > One thing I would throw in there for the > non-fiberglass savvy is that both Gary and Deems > have fairly extensive experience with glass given > they both previously have built glass aircraft. > Either cowl will require some modifications. The > good news is if you go with a James cowl, Barrett > cold air, and the Rod Bower FAB, Rod has a mold > taken from the work that Deems did to his James cowl > and the induction so you can get a molded part to > minimize your rework. Here is Rod's link: > > > > http://www.ramairforhomebuilts.com/ramair.html > > > > Michael > > > > <font size=2 color.000000" face="courier new,courier"> >


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    Time: 10:42:14 AM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fuel Tank Lables
    I got more request for labels than I had, however they are easy to get and if others want some I will get them made and send them out. How about if we put a deadline of this Friday 8/29/08. Let me know and I will order what we need. Gary Specketer 40274 Flying


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    Time: 11:22:24 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: Composites for RV-10
    AirCrafters will be holding another workshop for composites on RV-10s on the weekend of November 18 and 19, 2008. The class will concentrate on RV-10s but is also applicable to other RVs and as an intro to other composite kitplanes. This course will provide an overview of the composite parts and techniques used on Van's Aircraft RV-10 kits. We will focus on correct materials and processes, fitting the composite top and doors, cowl, spinner, fairings, and other composite parts. You will recieve hands-on training to identify and use all necessary materials. Examples of completed and in-process assemblies will be available to view. We will be fitting and installing a cabin top. Weather permitting, we'll be giving RV-10 demo flights to as many interested parties as possible--indicate when you sign up if you're interested, first come, first served, no additional charge. Who: Harold Bunyi and Dave Saylor. Harold holds a BS in Aeronautical Engineering and built kitplane parts in the Phillipines for many years. He has worked at AirCrafters for 6 years and spends most of his day working with composites. I started working with composite kitplanes in 1998. I am an A&P/IA, and I have finished my personal RV-10 project, along with many other composite and aluminum projects. I recieved my BS in Aeronautics from San Jose State. When: November 18 & 19, 2008 8AM-4PM Saturday 8AM-3PM Sunday Where: AirCrafters LLC Watsonville Airport (KWVI) 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 <outbind://40/www.AirCraftersLLC.com> www.AirCraftersLLC.com Class size is limited to 15 builders Cost for the course is $350 payable by cash, check or credit card. Please call or email to register. A 50% deposit is required before November 10. Balance due before class starts. Nearest major airport is San Jose International. 45 minute drive to KWVI. Best Lodging is Watsonville Comfort Inn: 831-728-2300. Ask for the airport discount. Other lodging is available nearby. Aircraft parking is available at AirCrafters. Please call if we can help with logistics. Many thanks for your interest, Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL <http://www.aircraftersllc.com/> www.AirCraftersLLC.com **************************************************************************** ****************************


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    Time: 11:24:21 AM PST US
    From: RobHickman@aol.com
    Subject: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV
    Ken Krueger, from Van's, and I tested our RV-10 with the three-blade composite prop against Van's RV-10 N410RV with the metal two-blade prop. We flew both airplanes at 8,000' density altitude, 2500RPM, full throttle, 50F ROP for a total of about 75 miles out and back. Our best estimate is that the three-blade prop is 7 kts slower than the blended airfoil metal p rop. Ideally, we should test the two-blade blended airfoil prop on our RV-10 and use that as the comparison. This would eliminate the variables involved whe n using two separate planes. Keep in mind that our RV-10 is still unpainted a nd needs some cleanup on the fairings. After we both landed, Ken flew our RV-10 and was very impressed with how smooth the prop was. Ken's direct quote was, "it is dramatically smoother t han N410RV, and it makes no difference if you run 2300, 2400 or 2500 RPM, it i s always extremely smooth". Even if it turns out to truly be 7 kts slower, there=99s no way I wou ld give up the smoothness for a little more speed. Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your trave l deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)


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    Time: 11:46:02 AM PST US
    From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Lables
    Gary, I'll take a pair. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: gary To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Lables I got more request for labels than I had, however they are easy to get and if others want some I will get them made and send them out. How about if we put a deadline of this Friday 8/29/08. Let me know and I will order what we need. Gary Specketer 40274 Flying


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    Time: 12:55:33 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Composites for RV-10
    I can recommend this highly. Especially if the Cabin top and most of the other glass parts are in front of you. As Gary said, composites are pretty forgiving and you can cobble your way through it pretty easily. I've been doing it for years. However, it's nice going into the work with a high confidence level, some model-specific tips, and basic skills taught by some pros. Bill Watson Dave Saylor wrote: > AirCrafters will be holding another workshop for composites on RV-10s > on the weekend of November 18 and 19, 2008. The class will > concentrate on RV-10s but is also applicable to other RVs and as an > intro to other composite kitplanes. > > This course will provide an overview of the composite parts and > techniques used on Van's Aircraft RV-10 kits. We will focus on correct > materials and processes, fitting the composite top and doors, cowl, > spinner, fairings, and other composite parts. You will recieve > hands-on training to identify and use all necessary materials. > Examples of completed and in-process assemblies will be available to > view. We will be fitting and installing a cabin top. > > Weather permitting, we'll be giving RV-10 demo flights to as many > interested parties as possible--indicate when you sign up if you're > interested, first come, first served, no additional charge. > > Who: > > Harold Bunyi and Dave Saylor. Harold holds a BS in Aeronautical > Engineering and built kitplane parts in the Phillipines for many > years. He has worked at AirCrafters for 6 years and spends most of his > day working with composites. > > I started working with composite kitplanes in 1998. I am an A&P/IA, > and I have finished my personal RV-10 project, along with many other > composite and aluminum projects. I recieved my BS in Aeronautics from > San Jose State. > > When: > > November 18 & 19, 2008 > > 8AM-4PM Saturday > > 8AM-3PM Sunday > > Where: > > AirCrafters LLC > > Watsonville Airport (KWVI) > > 140 Aviation Way > > Watsonville, CA 95076 > > 831-722-9141 > > _www.AirCraftersLLC.com_ <outbind://40/www.AirCraftersLLC.com> > > Class size is limited to 15 builders > > Cost for the course is $350 payable by cash, check or credit card. > Please call or email to register. A 50% deposit is required > before November 10. Balance due before class starts. > > Nearest major airport is San Jose International. 45 minute drive to KWVI. > > Best Lodging is Watsonville Comfort Inn: 831-728-2300. Ask for the > airport discount. Other lodging is available nearby. Aircraft > parking is available at AirCrafters. Please call if we can help with > logistics. > > Many thanks for your interest, > > Dave Saylor > > 831-750-0284 CL > > _www.AirCraftersLLC.com_ <http://www.aircraftersllc.com/> > > ******************************************************************************************************** > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 02:12:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank lables
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Gary, I'll take a pair too. Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0996#200996


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    Time: 02:23:43 PM PST US
    From: "Cal Hoffman" <cehoffman@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Lables
    Put me down for a pair. Cal Hoffman 97 Myrick Street Barnwell, SC 29812 40119 Fiberglas & Inst. Panel ----- Original Message ----- From: gary To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Lables I got more request for labels than I had, however they are easy to get and if others want some I will get them made and send them out. How about if we put a deadline of this Friday 8/29/08. Let me know and I will order what we need. Gary Specketer 40274 Flying


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    Time: 02:34:40 PM PST US
    From: Patrick Thyssen <jump2@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV
    -Maybe van needs to balance the prop? Pat Thyssen --- On Wed, 8/27/08, RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: From: RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> Subject: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410R V Ken Krueger, from Van's, and I tested our RV-10 with the three-blade compos ite prop against Van's RV-10 N410RV with the metal two-blade prop. - We flew both airplanes at 8,000' density altitude, 2500RPM, full throttle, 50F ROP for a total of about 75 miles out and back.-- Our best estimate is that the three-blade prop is 7 kts slower than the blended airfoil meta l prop. - Ideally, we should test the two-blade blended airfoil prop on our RV-10 and use that as the comparison. This would eliminate the variables involved wh en using two separate planes. Keep in mind that our RV-10 is still unpainte d and needs some cleanup on the fairings. - After we both landed, Ken flew our RV-10 and was very impressed with how sm ooth the prop was. Ken's direct quote was, "it is dramatically smoother tha n N410RV, and it makes no difference if you run 2300,- 2400 or 2500 RPM, it is always extremely smooth". - Even if it turns out to truly be 7 kts slower, there=A2s no way I would giv e up the smoothness for a little more speed. - - Rob Hickman N402RH- RV-10 It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.


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    Time: 02:57:20 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fuel Tank Lables
    Could I have your address please? Gary _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Lables Gary, I'll take a pair. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: gary <mailto:speckter@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Lables I got more request for labels than I had, however they are easy to get and if others want some I will get them made and send them out. How about if we put a deadline of this Friday 8/29/08. Let me know and I will order what we need. Gary Specketer 40274 Flying


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    Time: 02:57:45 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank lables
    Please send me your address and I will ship off the labels when they are done. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fuel Tank lables Gary, I'll take a pair too. Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0996#200996


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    Time: 03:19:20 PM PST US
    From: RobHickman@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV
    I was told that Van's RV-10 has had the prop balanced. Everyone that has flown with me in the RV-10 has been amazed with how smooth it is and it has not been balanced, it might even get better. Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)


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    Time: 03:19:20 PM PST US
    From: Patrick Thyssen <jump2@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: It's Official!
    Gary, -I was wondering if you have been able to down load the new soft ware 4.0 .1 version? I got an e-mail from Dexter and he said it was up and so I've been trying t o get it but it still down loads 3.1.8 version. Try it and let me know if y ou do any good. Thanks -Patrick Thyssen N15PT --- On Fri, 5/2/08, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote: From: gary <speckter@comcast.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: It's Official! Congratulations. Let me know when you fly. - -I flew mine up to MN.- I still have OP stuff to work out with Stein bu t now I am in his back yard. - Gary - From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: RV10-List: It's Official! - Just finished up with the DAR and #40105 is now N442PM in every respect!- No squawks found during the inspection, just have to put everything back t ogether=85- First flight will wait until weather conditions locally impro ve a bit. - Bob - -http://www.matronics.com/contribution -


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    Time: 03:20:08 PM PST US
    From: "John Cumins" <jcumins@jcis.net>
    Subject: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV
    Who out there in RV-10 land is running the MT 3 blade prop. Can you post your average True airspeed at say 7500 or 8500 and what power setting are you using. This would be a nice data point to compare also. John G. Cumins #40864 Vstab done working on rudder _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Thyssen Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV Maybe van needs to balance the prop? Pat Thyssen --- On Wed, 8/27/08, RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: From: RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> Subject: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV Ken Krueger, from Van's, and I tested our RV-10 with the three-blade composite prop against Van's RV-10 N410RV with the metal two-blade prop. We flew both airplanes at 8,000' density altitude, 2500RPM, full throttle, 50F ROP for a total of about 75 miles out and back. Our best estimate is that the three-blade prop is 7 kts slower than the blended airfoil metal prop. Ideally, we should test the two-blade blended airfoil prop on our RV-10 and use that as the comparison. This would eliminate the variables involved when using two separate planes. Keep in mind that our RV-10 is still unpainted and needs some cleanup on the fairings. After we both landed, Ken flew our RV-10 and was very impressed with how smooth the prop was. Ken's direct quote was, "it is dramatically smoother than N410RV, and it makes no difference if you run 2300, 2400 or 2500 RPM, it is always extremely smooth". Even if it turns out to truly be 7 kts slower, there?s no way I would give up the smoothness for a little more speed. Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 _____ It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal <http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047> here. get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:29:13 PM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Fuel Tank Lables
    Gary, I'll also take a pair.- Where can we send the money? Don McDonald 11460 Elks Circle Rancho Cordova, CA- 95742 --- On Wed, 8/27/08, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote: From: gary <speckter@comcast.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Lables - I got more request for labels than I had, however they are easy to get and if others want some I will get them made and send them out.- How about if we put a deadline of this Friday 8/29/08.- Let me know and I will order what we need. - Gary Specketer 40274 Flying - -=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 04:09:14 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Composite Class Real Dates Nov 15 & 16
    OK, let's make that November 15 and 16, which should really be a Saturday and Sunday. Just to be complete: This course will provide an overview of the composite parts and techniques used on Van's Aircraft RV-10 kits. We will focus on correct materials and processes, fitting the composite top and doors, cowl, spinner, fairings, and other composite parts. You will recieve hands-on training to identify and use all necessary materials. Examples of completed and in-process assemblies will be available to view. We will be fitting and installing a cabin top. Weather permitting, we'll be giving RV-10 demo flights to as many interested parties as possible--indicate when you sign up if you're interested, first come, first served, no additional charge. Who: Harold Bunyi and Dave Saylor. Harold holds a BS in Aeronautical Engineering and built kitplane parts in the Phillipines for many years. He has worked at AirCrafters for 6 years and spends most of his day working with composites. I started working with composite kitplanes in 1998. I am an A&P/IA, and I have finished my personal RV-10 project, along with many other composite and aluminum projects. I recieved my BS in Aeronautics from San Jose State. When: November 15 & 16, 2008 8AM-4PM Saturday 8AM-3PM Sunday Where: AirCrafters LLC Watsonville Airport (KWVI) 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 <outbind://40/www.AirCraftersLLC.com> www.AirCraftersLLC.com Class size is limited to 15 builders Cost for the course is $350 payable by cash, check or credit card. Please call or email to register. A 50% deposit is required before November 7. Balance due before class starts. Nearest major airport is San Jose International. 45 minute drive to KWVI. Best Lodging is Watsonville Comfort Inn: 831-728-2300. Ask for the airport discount. Other lodging is available nearby. Aircraft parking is available at AirCrafters. Please call if we can help with logistics. Many thanks for your interest, Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL <http://www.aircraftersllc.com/> www.AirCraftersLLC.com **************************************************************************** ****************************


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    Time: 05:16:11 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Sparling" <jhs_61@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Builder Available!
    If you are looking for someone to complete your project, I will be available in September. Please take a look at my blog and give me a call to discuss your needs. All the best, Jack Sparling N5115Q 40487 210hrs. Crestwood, Kentucky Cell: (502) 262-6557 Jhs_61@yahoo.com N5115Q.blogspot.com


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    Time: 05:50:10 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: RV-10 HQ Article
    All, I wrote an article about the RV-10 HQ for our chapter newsletter. If you were at one of the dinners, you may see you photo. Thanks to Deems, Tim, Scott, and Andrea for the photos. Here's a link to the article: http://eaa9.org/Members/Newsletters/2008/E9NL08Sep.pdf Bob


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    Time: 05:58:15 PM PST US
    From: Barry Marz <blalmarz@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: James cowl with a standard IO-540
    I have a James cowl and plenum with an Air flow FI and Std air box from Van's. The fit of the cowl and plenum were pretty good but not alot of overlap to play with. I had to make some mods for the FI control arms. I used the Std intake ring and cooling rings Sam supplied, and used baffle material for the seals. I used Alex's finned grills on the sides of the bottom cowl for more cooling down here in FL. I also used Sam's main wheel pants and Van's nose wheel pant. All in all I am pleased with the results. I have only made one long trip so far, but I was truing out about 175 kts. at 8500' @ 22 squared, 14 gph on a warm day at gross wt. I was running rich of peak and #6 was my hottest cylinder @ 390 f and oil temp 210 f. I have about 50 hrs on the airframe. E-mail me off line for any more questions and when I get more Perf data I will post it. Blue Skys Barry Barry Marz 18735 Baseleg AVE. FT. Myers, Fl 33917 239-567-2271 blalmarz@embarqmail.com


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    Time: 06:07:16 PM PST US
    Subject: IO-540; What Is Normal Oil Pressure?
    From: "Geico266" <Geico266@aol.com>
    I searched and could not find a thread discussing normal oil Pressure for the mighty 0-540 or IO-540. I just adjusted my pressure up a tad. I now have readings of Take off (oil temps 100F) 105 PSI, 75PSI cruise, 24 PSI Hot engine idle @ 650 RPM. I am a tad concerned about the idle PSI. What are your readings? Thanks in advance. Go Huskers! :-) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1057#201057


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    Time: 06:53:11 PM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 HQ Article
    Very nice Bob!!! Give all the credt to Rhonda and her family for your engine choice...I told you why I bought my engine from them and=C2-I hope you also talked to=C2 -Deem's, I=C2-can tell you they are first class, Monty raised himself n ot only a great family but a world class engine shop. I'm not just a custom er of a great family owned business called=C2- BPE or BPA whatever they c all themselves now...they are my friends. Welcome to the family!! I'm amaze d at how many certified guys tell me they had their engine overhauled or bo ught outright from them...your in good hands.. Rick Sked 40185 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:52:24 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 HQ Article All, I wrote an article about the RV-10 HQ for our chapter newsletter.=C2- If you were at one of the dinners, you may see you photo.=C2- Thanks to Deem s, Tim, Scott, and Andrea for the photos.=C2-=C2- Here=99s a link to the article:=C2- http://eaa9.org/Members/Newsletters/2008/E9NL08Sep.p df Bob ==== ======================= ==


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    Time: 06:59:23 PM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: It's Official!
    After meeting Pat =C2-(John Cox sends you=C2-his love while we were eat ing ice cream, you know what I'm talking about Pat!!) =C2-and hanging out with Deems and Gary=C2-during OSH, I almost feel the pain you OPS guys a re having, can you let us know how the new software thing is going?...Heh h ee...gives a whole new meaning to "Dexter"...lol.. Rick Sked 40185 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Thyssen" <jump2@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:19:00 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RE: RV10-List: It's Official! Gary, =C2-I was wondering if you have been able to down load the new soft ware 4.0.1 version? I got an e-mail from Dexter and he said it was up and so I've been trying t o get it but it still down loads 3.1.8 version. Try it and let me know if y ou do any good. Thanks =C2-Patrick Thyssen N15PT --- On Fri, 5/2/08, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote: From: gary <speckter@comcast.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: It's Official! Congratulations. Let me know when you fly. =C2-I flew mine up to MN.=C2- I still have OP stuff to work out with St ein but now I am in his back yard. Gary From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: RV10-List: It's Official! Just finished up with the DAR and #40105 is now N442PM in every respect!=C2 - No squawks found during the inspection, just have to put everything bac k together=C2- First flight will wait until weather conditions l ocally improve a bit. Bob =C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.mat ronics.com/contribution ==== ======================= ===


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    Time: 07:10:52 PM PST US
    From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
    Subject: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV
    A few years ago there was the Vic Vans and Randy vans comparo..around the same altitude. I attached the sheet Pascal From: John Cumins Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV Who out there in RV-10 land is running the MT 3 blade prop. Can you post your average True airspeed at say 7500 or 8500 and what power setting are you using. This would be a nice data point to compare also. John G. Cumins #40864 Vstab done working on rudder ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Thyssen Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV Maybe van needs to balance the prop? Pat Thyssen --- On Wed, 8/27/08, RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> wrote: From: RobHickman@aol.com <RobHickman@aol.com> Subject: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite three blade test against Van's N410RV To: rv10-list@matronics.com Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 1:23 PM Ken Krueger, from Van's, and I tested our RV-10 with the three-blade composite prop against Van's RV-10 N410RV with the metal two-blade prop. We flew both airplanes at 8,000' density altitude, 2500RPM, full throttle, 50F ROP for a total of about 75 miles out and back. Our best estimate is that the three-blade prop is 7 kts slower than the blended airfoil metal prop. Ideally, we should test the two-blade blended airfoil prop on our RV-10 and use that as the comparison. This would eliminate the variables involved when using two separate planes. Keep in mind that our RV-10 is still unpainted and needs some cleanup on the fairings. After we both landed, Ken flew our RV-10 and was very impressed with how smooth the prop was. Ken's direct quote was, "it is dramatically smoother than N410RV, and it makes no difference if you run 2300, 2400 or 2500 RPM, it is always extremely smooth". Even if it turns out to truly be 7 kts slower, there=A2s no way I would give up the smoothness for a little more speed. Rob Hickman N402RH RV-10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List=nofollow>ht tp://forums.matronics.comblank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:12:43 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: It's Official!
    I cannot get it to download into my units. I talked with Dexter and he says they will check it out and get back to me. It is very frustrating. Gary Specketer _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Thyssen Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: It's Official! Gary, I was wondering if you have been able to down load the new soft ware 4.0.1 version? I got an e-mail from Dexter and he said it was up and so I've been trying to get it but it still down loads 3.1.8 version. Try it and let me know if you do any good. Thanks Patrick Thyssen N15PT --- On Fri, 5/2/08, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote: From: gary <speckter@comcast.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: It's Official! Congratulations. Let me know when you fly. I flew mine up to MN. I still have OP stuff to work out with Stein but now I am in his back yard. Gary _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: RV10-List: It's Official! Just finished up with the DAR and #40105 is now N442PM in every respect! No squawks found during the inspection, just have to put everything back together. First flight will wait until weather conditions locally improve a bit. Bob http://www.matronics.com/contribution get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:17:00 PM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: AFS WX & AP software
    For those who are going the AFS route, I just flew this afternoon with their weather and auto pilot control software on a dual screen, dual AHRS 3500 panel. It is definitely a work in progress, but shows a LOT of promise. There's something nice about an 8.4" moving map display with weather, even though they are only showing Nexrad so far. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694


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    Time: 07:21:30 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: RV-10 HQ Article
    Nice job Bob, Gary _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:52 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 HQ Article All, I wrote an article about the RV-10 HQ for our chapter newsletter. If you were at one of the dinners, you may see you photo. Thanks to Deems, Tim, Scott, and Andrea for the photos. Here's a link to the article: http://eaa9.org/Members/Newsletters/2008/E9NL08Sep.pdf Bob


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    Time: 07:26:50 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fuel Tank Lables
    WE are headed back to Georgia on Sept 3 so if you will send $12 to me there we will be square. I do not have a delivery date yet, after Friday I will place the order and hope to have it in a week after that. Gary Specketer 3030 Orchard Rd SW Conyers GA 30094 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Lables Gary, I'll also take a pair. Where can we send the money? Don McDonald 11460 Elks Circle Rancho Cordova, CA 95742 --- On Wed, 8/27/08, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote: From: gary <speckter@comcast.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Lables I got more request for labels than I had, however they are easy to get and if others want some I will get them made and send them out. How about if we put a deadline of this Friday 8/29/08. Let me know and I will order what we need. Gary Specketer 40274 Flying


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    Time: 08:53:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Seat Belt support Bracket
    From: "partner14" <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Ok, it's been redesigned, punched out, tumbled, and ready to install. I will finish installing mine on Friday. They look great. Not trying to make money here, just taking advantage of my brothers equipment and I had promised 3 to RV10 guys in this area. We ran off 20, and 8 are already spoken for. $12 should cover the bracket and shipping. Any questions on how I installed mine, just give me a call. Don McDonald 11460 Elks Circle Rancho Cordova, Ca 95742 916-801-8402 #40636 Almost ready to pour fuel to it! -------- Don A. McDonald 40636 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1090#201090 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2625c_159.jpg


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    Time: 09:51:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Aluminum Door Handles
    From: "truflite" <davidnellis691@comcast.net>
    Recently, I was approached by an RV-10 builder about making aluminum inside door handles for an RV-10. Van's provides a handle made from square tubing that is functional, but not aesthetic. I would like to try making a set of handles and market them. I need to see, first hand, a set of handles. Is there anyone out there that would be interested in these handles? Here is my proposal. I need the factory handles to design my handles, including the locking mechanism. The first to send me there handles will get their new ones free. Any takers? Dave Nellis 7A slider right wing in process -------- David Nellis 7A Slider Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1098#201098




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