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1. 05:59 AM - Re: Cool pics (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
2. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: Door Seals - Again (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 11:16 AM - Project Almost Done - Cleaning House... (Don Honabach)
4. 05:27 PM - Re: Hartzell Composite Three blade RPM Test (Rob Kermanj)
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Hi again Mike.
Glad you like the pictures. No, wee would never want an RV12. If anything, we are
thinking of buying someones completed RV10 after moving to Ohio. Waiting until
the house sells.. Talk to you soon
Brian and Ruth
PS the Tiger climbs better than the Cirrus SR0 and goes almost as fast. The Cirrus
was great at LOP though. We are able to get about 130 kts at 7.6 gal/hr! Our
Tiger now gets 132 kts at about 9.6-9.8 g/hr. It just had a top overhaul, and
we broke it in- flew it like we stole it at first.
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From: "Mike Abel" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Looks like you guys are doing ok. Great pics. Keep looking at that RV12. Might
be a really economical way to go.
Plus easy to build
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<DIV>Hi again Mike. </DIV>
<DIV>Glad you like the pictures. No, wee would never want an RV12. If anything,
we are thinking of buying someones completed RV10 after moving to Ohio. Waiting
until the house sells.. Talk to you soon</DIV>
<DIV>Brian and Ruth</DIV>
<DIV>PS the Tiger climbs better than the Cirrus SR0 and goes almost as fast. The
Cirrus was great at LOP though. We are able to get about 130 kts at 7.6 gal/hr!
Our Tiger now gets 132 kts at about 9.6-9.8 g/hr. It just had a top overhaul,
and we broke it in- flew it like we stole it at first.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class'3195506-04092008>Looks like you guys are
doing ok. Great pics. Keep looking at that RV12. Might be a really economical
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| Subject: | Re: Door Seals - Again |
If anyone is curious I requested a quote from Aircraft Door Seals and they came
back at $69.95 each door and the baggage is $39.95 each plus S & H. Alex is
a couple bucks cheaper but if you have to order stuff from Alex anyway you would
be better off getting them from him to save shipping.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Door Seals - Again
Dick at AircraftDoorseals is a good guy to deal with. I've used several of
his products on my Cherokee. He answered questions quickly and did
whatever it took to help folks out.
I don't have experience with his door seals on a RV-10 yet, but based upon
my previous experience, I would go to him again.
We just need to convince Dick to trade in his Lance for a RV-10! :^)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door Seals - Again
I saw quite a few different seals at OSH. From what I can gather, Vans is
not the preferred seal. Thoug with those owners that have installed the
Van's seal the seal seems to be working well and there is little complaint
on noise or air intrusion. One big complaint aside from the lack of nice
appearance is that you have to use pop rivets, and if you need to change the
seal (drill out the pop rivets), you will have the rivet ends rattling
around inside the door.
I did see seals from AIRCRAFT DOOR SEAL LLC called the "Incredible Aircraft
door seal" see aircraftdoorseals.com
He did give me a sample, but I did not get any feedback from those who have
installed it. any feedback on this product is appreciated.
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OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - exited cabin top/door purgatory
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2189#202189
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| Subject: | Project Almost Done - Cleaning House... |
After over 10 years I'm almost done with my Zodiac 601HDS project (yes,
HDS) and I'm cleaning out/selling off the extras to make a little peace
in the family...
I've put up 2 Electric Gyros Indicators on eBay if anyone is interested:
RCA15AK-1 14V Electric Directional Gyro (Lighted)
http://tinyurl.com/6n66vm
RCA26AK-1 14V Electric Attitude Indicator Gyro (Lighted)
http://tinyurl.com/5nnfuu
Both are brand new, have zero hours and were bought at R.C. Allen Booth
at Oshkosh.
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ
601HDS
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell Composite Three blade RPM Test |
I was thinking about this....may be I mean to say that at a given
manifold pressure (19.0 in my case), 2250 RPM, 10 gal and 12,500 (65%
as stated in lycoming HP chart) I will lose speed if I increase RPM
and keep everything else, including fuel, constant.
Now guys, don't jump all over me for being wishy-washy!
Rene, you should always be able to go faster at a higher altitude!
Right?
At the end, I believe that we are very close to each other since it is
hard to make a major rigging error on the 10. We are just measuring
with different instruments and comparing speeds at different parameters.
I have enclose two photos of my panel from a trip. They are both
taken on the same trip at different altitudes. I have done the GRT
speed correction but will try the GPS speed calibration for the next
one. Now, if my outside temp sensor is really out of wack and my
numbers are off, it is not my fault!
I took these shots with the AP engaged and the plane level in smooth
air, with everything settled. Notice no vertical speed, TAS on the
right bottom and OAT.
You might think that I am a real liar, but if I wiggle my rudder just
right, I get a couple of more knots.
On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> Boy, I really feel slow now......
>
> 12,500
> 12.2 GPH Rich of peak
> 2480 RPM
> 161 knots (TAS from GRT)
>
> My speed test at 8000 feet and 75% power showed about 171......but I
> have
> not seen speeds like that in cruise at 12500.
>
>
> Rene' Felker
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite Three blade RPM Test
>
>
> I have been reporting best speeds at 2250 RPM. Perhaps with your
> theory I can do better. I am curious and will test it and report
> back.
>
> I consistently get 172 kts at 12,500 with 10 gal/hr burn. Perhaps I
> really mean best speed/fuel economy combination and don't realize it.
>
> I do know that being in absolute smooth air and giving the plane a
> chance to accelerate for a few long minutes makes a big difference.
> The speed goes all over the place with the slightest turbulence.
>
> It will be a while before I can do the test but I WILL report back. I
> also need to qualify that I do not have three blades so, who knows!
>
> Thank for making me think.
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:40 PM, William Curtis wrote:
>
>> <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>>
>> This is one of the reasons I shake my head when some report the best
>> speeds at some low ~2200-2400 RPM. I discovered when I was breaking
>> in a new engine on the Cardinal that my best power and speeds was at
>> 2700 RPM. Anything less than 2700 would produce a slower speed.
>> Now I primarily use two settings for my prop--2700 for takeoff, 2500
>> for climb and cruise with occasional reduction during letdown.
>>
>> All things being equal, you will achieve the best power and speed
>> from a prop at 2700 RPM. At 2700 RPM, and 50 degree ambient
>> temperature, an 84" prop will have a tip speed of Mach 0.895. To
>> produce maximum thrust at full power your tip speed should fall
>> between .88 and .92 mach. The primary benefit of reducing RPM is
>> for increased passenger comfort (less noise) and reduced engine wear
>> an tear.
>>
>> What is the diameter of the Hartzell Composite Three blade?
>>
>> William
>> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>>>
>>> On my trip to Moses Lake and back over the weekend I tried different
>>> propeller RPM's for speed. I was level at 8500 Ft and full
>>> throttle. I started at
>>> 2600 RPM and then tried 2500, 2400, 2300, and 2200; for every 100
>>> RPM drop I
>>> would see a couple of knots drop in airspeed.
>>>
>>> Rob Hickman
>>> N402RH RV-10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find
>>> your travel
>>> deal here.
>>> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
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