---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/04/08: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:59 AM - Re: Cool pics (cloudvalley@comcast.net) 2. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: Door Seals - Again (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 3. 11:16 AM - Project Almost Done - Cleaning House... (Don Honabach) 4. 05:27 PM - Re: Hartzell Composite Three blade RPM Test (Rob Kermanj) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:43 AM PST US From: cloudvalley@comcast.net Subject: RV10-List: Re: Cool pics Hi again Mike. Glad you like the pictures. No, wee would never want an RV12. If anything, we are thinking of buying someones completed RV10 after moving to Ohio. Waiting until the house sells.. Talk to you soon Brian and Ruth PS the Tiger climbs better than the Cirrus SR0 and goes almost as fast. The Cirrus was great at LOP though. We are able to get about 130 kts at 7.6 gal/hr! Our Tiger now gets 132 kts at about 9.6-9.8 g/hr. It just had a top overhaul, and we broke it in- flew it like we stole it at first. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mike Abel" Looks like you guys are doing ok. Great pics. Keep looking at that RV12. Might be a really economical way to go. Plus easy to build
Hi again Mike.
Glad you like the pictures. No, wee would never want an RV12. If anything, we are thinking of buying someones completed RV10 after moving to Ohio. Waiting until the house sells.. Talk to you soon
Brian and Ruth
PS the Tiger climbs better than the Cirrus SR0 and goes almost as fast. The Cirrus was great at LOP though. We are able to get about 130 kts at 7.6 gal/hr! Our Tiger now gets 132 kts at about 9.6-9.8 g/hr. It just had a top overhaul, and we broke it in- flew it like we stole it at first.
 
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From: "Mike Abel" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Looks like you guys are doing ok. Great pics. Keep looking at that RV12. Might be a really economical way to go.
 
Plus easy to build
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:34 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Door Seals - Again If anyone is curious I requested a quote from Aircraft Door Seals and they came back at $69.95 each door and the baggage is $39.95 each plus S & H. Alex is a couple bucks cheaper but if you have to order stuff from Alex anyway you would be better off getting them from him to save shipping. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Door Seals - Again Dick at AircraftDoorseals is a good guy to deal with. I've used several of his products on my Cherokee. He answered questions quickly and did whatever it took to help folks out. I don't have experience with his door seals on a RV-10 yet, but based upon my previous experience, I would go to him again. We just need to convince Dick to trade in his Lance for a RV-10! :^) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door Seals - Again I saw quite a few different seals at OSH. From what I can gather, Vans is not the preferred seal. Thoug with those owners that have installed the Van's seal the seal seems to be working well and there is little complaint on noise or air intrusion. One big complaint aside from the lack of nice appearance is that you have to use pop rivets, and if you need to change the seal (drill out the pop rivets), you will have the rivet ends rattling around inside the door. I did see seals from AIRCRAFT DOOR SEAL LLC called the "Incredible Aircraft door seal" see aircraftdoorseals.com He did give me a sample, but I did not get any feedback from those who have installed it. any feedback on this product is appreciated. -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - exited cabin top/door purgatory Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2189#202189 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:45 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Project Almost Done - Cleaning House... From: "Don Honabach" After over 10 years I'm almost done with my Zodiac 601HDS project (yes, HDS) and I'm cleaning out/selling off the extras to make a little peace in the family... I've put up 2 Electric Gyros Indicators on eBay if anyone is interested: RCA15AK-1 14V Electric Directional Gyro (Lighted) http://tinyurl.com/6n66vm RCA26AK-1 14V Electric Attitude Indicator Gyro (Lighted) http://tinyurl.com/5nnfuu Both are brand new, have zero hours and were bought at R.C. Allen Booth at Oshkosh. Don Honabach Tempe, AZ 601HDS ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:08 PM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite Three blade RPM Test I was thinking about this....may be I mean to say that at a given manifold pressure (19.0 in my case), 2250 RPM, 10 gal and 12,500 (65% as stated in lycoming HP chart) I will lose speed if I increase RPM and keep everything else, including fuel, constant. Now guys, don't jump all over me for being wishy-washy! Rene, you should always be able to go faster at a higher altitude! Right? At the end, I believe that we are very close to each other since it is hard to make a major rigging error on the 10. We are just measuring with different instruments and comparing speeds at different parameters. I have enclose two photos of my panel from a trip. They are both taken on the same trip at different altitudes. I have done the GRT speed correction but will try the GPS speed calibration for the next one. Now, if my outside temp sensor is really out of wack and my numbers are off, it is not my fault! I took these shots with the AP engaged and the plane level in smooth air, with everything settled. Notice no vertical speed, TAS on the right bottom and OAT. You might think that I am a real liar, but if I wiggle my rudder just right, I get a couple of more knots. On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Rene Felker wrote: > > Boy, I really feel slow now...... > > 12,500 > 12.2 GPH Rich of peak > 2480 RPM > 161 knots (TAS from GRT) > > My speed test at 8000 feet and 75% power showed about 171......but I > have > not seen speeds like that in cruise at 12500. > > > Rene' Felker > RV-10 N423CF Flying > 801-721-6080 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Composite Three blade RPM Test > > > I have been reporting best speeds at 2250 RPM. Perhaps with your > theory I can do better. I am curious and will test it and report > back. > > I consistently get 172 kts at 12,500 with 10 gal/hr burn. Perhaps I > really mean best speed/fuel economy combination and don't realize it. > > I do know that being in absolute smooth air and giving the plane a > chance to accelerate for a few long minutes makes a big difference. > The speed goes all over the place with the slightest turbulence. > > It will be a while before I can do the test but I WILL report back. I > also need to qualify that I do not have three blades so, who knows! > > Thank for making me think. > > > On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:40 PM, William Curtis wrote: > >> >> >> This is one of the reasons I shake my head when some report the best >> speeds at some low ~2200-2400 RPM. I discovered when I was breaking >> in a new engine on the Cardinal that my best power and speeds was at >> 2700 RPM. Anything less than 2700 would produce a slower speed. >> Now I primarily use two settings for my prop--2700 for takeoff, 2500 >> for climb and cruise with occasional reduction during letdown. >> >> All things being equal, you will achieve the best power and speed >> from a prop at 2700 RPM. At 2700 RPM, and 50 degree ambient >> temperature, an 84" prop will have a tip speed of Mach 0.895. To >> produce maximum thrust at full power your tip speed should fall >> between .88 and .92 mach. The primary benefit of reducing RPM is >> for increased passenger comfort (less noise) and reduced engine wear >> an tear. >> >> What is the diameter of the Hartzell Composite Three blade? >> >> William >> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >>> X-Rcpt-To: >>> >>> On my trip to Moses Lake and back over the weekend I tried different >>> propeller RPM's for speed. I was level at 8500 Ft and full >>> throttle. I started at >>> 2600 RPM and then tried 2500, 2400, 2300, and 2200; for every 100 >>> RPM drop I >>> would see a couple of knots drop in airspeed. >>> >>> Rob Hickman >>> N402RH RV-10 >>> >>> >>> >>> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find >>> your travel >>> deal here. >>> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.