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1. 05:12 AM - Re: Section 30-3 The Steps (johngoodman)
2. 05:30 AM - Re: Section 30-3 The Steps (Lew Gallagher)
3. 05:32 AM - Slick mag update SB2-08A and SB3-08A (Tim Olson)
4. 07:13 AM - Re: Section 30-3 The Steps (johngoodman)
5. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: Section 30-3 The Steps (pascal)
6. 09:08 AM - GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup (Rick Sked)
7. 09:09 AM - Powdered Iridite or Alodine (Kent Ogden)
8. 09:54 AM - Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup (Ralph E. Capen)
9. 10:10 AM - Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup (Rick Sked)
10. 10:18 AM - Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup (Ralph E. Capen)
11. 11:06 AM - Re: Powdered Iridite or Alodine (Joe McKervey)
12. 11:33 AM - Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup (John Erickson)
13. 12:24 PM - Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup (Rick Sked)
14. 01:45 PM - Re: Section 30-3 The Steps (Space Cadet)
15. 02:32 PM - 3-D Panel Wizard (KiloPapa)
16. 02:52 PM - Re: Rivethead-Aero Missing? (KiloPapa)
17. 04:36 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead-Aero Missing? (Steve Stella)
18. 07:28 PM - Re: 3-D Panel Wizard (Les Kearney)
19. 09:27 PM - Re: Firewall penetrations - electrical (AirMike)
20. 09:31 PM - Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Robin Marks)
21. 09:49 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead-Aero Missing? (Tim Olson)
22. 10:59 PM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Albert Gardner)
23. 11:43 PM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | Re: Section 30-3 The Steps |
The two sets of WD-1007 steps that we have are pre drilled for an AN3 bolt. I'm
obviously going to have to move on, so I'll probably take mine to a welding shop
and get them closed up.
John
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Section 30-3 The Steps |
Hey John,
I'm sure you've checked this, but you do know there's a left and right? Ours were
pre-drilled also and probably the same amount off according to the plans,
but we decided they were close enough, Van's did it, and we went with the pre-drilled
holes.
Later, - Lew (building lots of Bluefish fillets instead of airframes these two
weeks)
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Slick mag update SB2-08A and SB3-08A |
Unison Revises Slick Magneto Service Bulletin; Kits Available
Unison Industries has revised service bulletins on its Slick magnetos
and is currently shipping kits to enable compliance with the revised
SBs. Service bulletins SB2-08A and SB3-08A are revisions of earlier
bulletins. For affected Slick- and LASAR-brand magnetos (serial numbers
from 0610XXXX to 0804XXXX), installing the kits will constitute a
terminating action for the SBs. Others that might be affected are
magnetos that have had their cam (or the cam as part of the contact
point assembly kit) replaced with products shipped between October 1,
2006, and May 11, 2008. Unison is recommending replacing the entire
contact point assembly and distributor block and gear assemblies.
Service Bulletin SB3-08A affects magnetos with serial numbers from
0409XXXX to 08080453, and/or magnetos that have had the carbon brush or
distributor block replaced with products shipped between September 1,
2004, and August 14, 2008. For a limited time, the company is making the
kits available at reduced prices. Any Slick or LASAR magnetos
manufactured after August 15, 2008, are not affected by the SBs. For
more information, go to http://www.unisonindustries.com/
https://unisonpubs.com/docs/F-1100-SB3-08A.pdf
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Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Section 30-3 The Steps |
OK folks, I called Van's Tech Support on this one and they were surprised there
was a pre drilled hole in the WD-1007-L & -R. When I told them that it moves
the step from 45 1/4 inches to 46 inches, they said drop a bolt in it and move
on. Turns out the 45 1/4 is a minimum to ensure flap clearance, nothing sinister
like aerodynamics or something.
John
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Section 30-3 The Steps |
This week I have discovered that Van's is making constant adjustments to the
RV-10 kits. I have parts that someone else has, (steps w/o a hole) I have a
a different fuel selector configuration that the previous revision called
for and I've noticed other differences.
This makes me think that VAN's is listening to the calls and e-mails we
place and making adjustments based on feedback in certain situations. I
called and asked for other prop options this last year, now appears they are
now considering the ASC II.
I think it's critical that those who are not calling or e-mailing Van's Tech
support questions or concerns (seal too big for doors) start doing so, I
think if they receive enough feedback on one section they will make
corrections.
Pascal
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From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:30 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Section 30-3 The Steps
>
> Hey John,
>
> I'm sure you've checked this, but you do know there's a left and right?
> Ours were pre-drilled also and probably the same amount off according to
> the plans, but we decided they were close enough, Van's did it, and we
> went with the pre-drilled holes.
>
> Later, - Lew (building lots of Bluefish fillets instead of airframes
> these two weeks)
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Engine and FF here, now cowl and baffels,waiting on prop.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 4899#204899
>
>
>
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| Subject: | GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup |
Anyone have experience with the GDL-69A and the MX-20 setup?
I fired up the GDL-69 for the first time last night and I'm not sure if there is
anything wrong or not but heres a little info if someone has input.
The Mx-20 interfaces perfectly with the NAV and GPS, they show up as good input
on the system screen on port 1, and port 2.
I installed the GDL-69 on port 3 but it shows no input from that device, is there
a setup process for the MX-20 that I'm missing to enable that port or does
is normally find the data stream as is is recieved? (sorta plug n play)
I don't have the XM service yet but I was waiting to get closer to flying before
starting the subscription. I was hoping to be able to at least confirm it is
operating OK before paying for the subscrition.
Pin checks show:
There is power to the unit
The shielded data wires from the two units cont. ck good
No shorts to shields or ground on data wires
This is a refurbished unit, so I have that unknown factor but it's from a good
dealer.
Any thoughts on this?
Rick Sked
40185
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| Subject: | Powdered Iridite or Alodine |
Hello list,
I've been looking for a source of powdered Iridite, I talked to Eldorado
Solutions today and they aren't able to produce the powdered version of
Iridite 14-2 right now. I did find some at Pegasus Auto Racing Supply:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=6081. $60 for two
pounds of powder which should be plenty. I don't see any powdered
de-oxidizer there though (like the Eldorado D-1). Does anyone have any
other/better sources for alodining chemicals/cleaners?
Kent Ogden
#40710 (real) slow-build, tailcone
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| Subject: | Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup |
There is a set-up process for the ports. I remember having a similar issue - you
gotta hold a couple of buttons while you power-up, IIRC. I don't have my manual
here - you may be able to get it online - but not from Garmin anymore -
I just tried.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 18, 2008 12:07 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
>
>
>Anyone have experience with the GDL-69A and the MX-20 setup?
>I fired up the GDL-69 for the first time last night and I'm not sure if there
is anything wrong or not but heres a little info if someone has input.
>The Mx-20 interfaces perfectly with the NAV and GPS, they show up as good input
on the system screen on port 1, and port 2.
>
>I installed the GDL-69 on port 3 but it shows no input from that device, is there
a setup process for the MX-20 that I'm missing to enable that port or does
is normally find the data stream as is is recieved? (sorta plug n play)
>
>I don't have the XM service yet but I was waiting to get closer to flying before
starting the subscription. I was hoping to be able to at least confirm it is
operating OK before paying for the subscrition.
>
>Pin checks show:
>There is power to the unit
>The shielded data wires from the two units cont. ck good
>No shorts to shields or ground on data wires
>This is a refurbished unit, so I have that unknown factor but it's from a good
dealer.
>Any thoughts on this?
>
>Rick Sked
>40185
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| Subject: | Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup |
Thanks Ralph!!!
Got the PDF, I had the pinouts but this is PERFECT!!!!
I owe ya!!
Rick Sked
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:53:00 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
There is a set-up process for the ports. I remember having a similar issue - you
gotta hold a couple of buttons while you power-up, IIRC. I don't have my manual
here - you may be able to get it online - but not from Garmin anymore -
I just tried.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 18, 2008 12:07 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
>
>
>Anyone have experience with the GDL-69A and the MX-20 setup?
>I fired up the GDL-69 for the first time last night and I'm not sure if there
is anything wrong or not but heres a little info if someone has input.
>The Mx-20 interfaces perfectly with the NAV and GPS, they show up as good input
on the system screen on port 1, and port 2.
>
>I installed the GDL-69 on port 3 but it shows no input from that device, is there
a setup process for the MX-20 that I'm missing to enable that port or does
is normally find the data stream as is is recieved? (sorta plug n play)
>
>I don't have the XM service yet but I was waiting to get closer to flying before
starting the subscription. I was hoping to be able to at least confirm it is
operating OK before paying for the subscrition.
>
>Pin checks show:
>There is power to the unit
>The shielded data wires from the two units cont. ck good
>No shorts to shields or ground on data wires
>This is a refurbished unit, so I have that unknown factor but it's from a good
dealer.
>Any thoughts on this?
>
>Rick Sked
>40185
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| Subject: | Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup |
Just the kind of thing this list is for........
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 18, 2008 1:09 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
>
>
>Thanks Ralph!!!
>
>Got the PDF, I had the pinouts but this is PERFECT!!!!
>
>I owe ya!!
>
>Rick Sked
>40185
>do not archive
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:53:00 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
>
>
>There is a set-up process for the ports. I remember having a similar issue -
you gotta hold a couple of buttons while you power-up, IIRC. I don't have my
manual here - you may be able to get it online - but not from Garmin anymore -
I just tried.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>>Sent: Sep 18, 2008 12:07 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
>>
>>
>>
>>Anyone have experience with the GDL-69A and the MX-20 setup?
>>I fired up the GDL-69 for the first time last night and I'm not sure if there
is anything wrong or not but heres a little info if someone has input.
>>The Mx-20 interfaces perfectly with the NAV and GPS, they show up as good input
on the system screen on port 1, and port 2.
>>
>>I installed the GDL-69 on port 3 but it shows no input from that device, is there
a setup process for the MX-20 that I'm missing to enable that port or does
is normally find the data stream as is is recieved? (sorta plug n play)
>>
>>I don't have the XM service yet but I was waiting to get closer to flying before
starting the subscription. I was hoping to be able to at least confirm it
is operating OK before paying for the subscrition.
>>
>>Pin checks show:
>>There is power to the unit
>>The shielded data wires from the two units cont. ck good
>>No shorts to shields or ground on data wires
>>This is a refurbished unit, so I have that unknown factor but it's from a good
dealer.
>>Any thoughts on this?
>>
>>Rick Sked
>>40185
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powdered Iridite or Alodine |
Look up PreKote.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kent Ogden
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:09 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Powdered Iridite or Alodine
Hello list,
I've been looking for a source of powdered Iridite, I talked to
Eldorado Solutions today and they aren't able to produce the powdered
version of Iridite 14-2 right now. I did find some at Pegasus Auto
Racing Supply:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=6081. $60
for two pounds of powder which should be plenty. I don't see any
powdered de-oxidizer there though (like the Eldorado D-1). Does anyone
have any other/better sources for alodining chemicals/cleaners?
Kent Ogden
#40710 (real) slow-build, tailcone
=B7>~?=ED=B2,=DE=03g(-S=D3M=D3Gq=A2z=C1=AE
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| Subject: | GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup |
You have to remember when dealing with Rick, it has to be pictures... Them
word things are just to difficult to sound out... :)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
Thanks Ralph!!!
Got the PDF, I had the pinouts but this is PERFECT!!!!
I owe ya!!
Rick Sked
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:53:00 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
--> <recapen@earthlink.net>
There is a set-up process for the ports. I remember having a similar issue
- you gotta hold a couple of buttons while you power-up, IIRC. I don't have
my manual here - you may be able to get it online - but not from Garmin
anymore - I just tried.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 18, 2008 12:07 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
>
>
>Anyone have experience with the GDL-69A and the MX-20 setup?
>I fired up the GDL-69 for the first time last night and I'm not sure if
there is anything wrong or not but heres a little info if someone has input.
>The Mx-20 interfaces perfectly with the NAV and GPS, they show up as good
input on the system screen on port 1, and port 2.
>
>I installed the GDL-69 on port 3 but it shows no input from that
>device, is there a setup process for the MX-20 that I'm missing to
>enable that port or does is normally find the data stream as is is
>recieved? (sorta plug n play)
>
>I don't have the XM service yet but I was waiting to get closer to flying
before starting the subscription. I was hoping to be able to at least
confirm it is operating OK before paying for the subscrition.
>
>Pin checks show:
>There is power to the unit
>The shielded data wires from the two units cont. ck good No shorts to
>shields or ground on data wires This is a refurbished unit, so I have
>that unknown factor but it's from a good dealer.
>Any thoughts on this?
>
>Rick Sked
>40185
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| Subject: | Re: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup |
Lol....yup true dat.I got to tell you the pictures on the MX-20 are very cool...I
only sctatched the surface last night but tied to the 480 and the Jepp database
installed on both..you almost don't need a pen handy to take notes, all the
info is a button push away and loaded into the FP, really neat things are to
load your Departure and Arrival airport info off the database instead of manually
inputing them into the 480 comm nav. Lots still to learn about the systems.
Tank goodnees dare R a bunch O pitures fer me to understand. Flight planning
is amazing...but I'm sure a lot of you already know that.
Rick
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Erickson" <rv10builder@ericksonjc.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:32:13 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
You have to remember when dealing with Rick, it has to be pictures... Them
word things are just to difficult to sound out... :)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
Thanks Ralph!!!
Got the PDF, I had the pinouts but this is PERFECT!!!!
I owe ya!!
Rick Sked
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:53:00 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
--> <recapen@earthlink.net>
There is a set-up process for the ports. I remember having a similar issue
- you gotta hold a couple of buttons while you power-up, IIRC. I don't have
my manual here - you may be able to get it online - but not from Garmin
anymore - I just tried.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 18, 2008 12:07 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: GDL-69a to MX-20 data stream/setup
>
>
>Anyone have experience with the GDL-69A and the MX-20 setup?
>I fired up the GDL-69 for the first time last night and I'm not sure if
there is anything wrong or not but heres a little info if someone has input.
>The Mx-20 interfaces perfectly with the NAV and GPS, they show up as good
input on the system screen on port 1, and port 2.
>
>I installed the GDL-69 on port 3 but it shows no input from that
>device, is there a setup process for the MX-20 that I'm missing to
>enable that port or does is normally find the data stream as is is
>recieved? (sorta plug n play)
>
>I don't have the XM service yet but I was waiting to get closer to flying
before starting the subscription. I was hoping to be able to at least
confirm it is operating OK before paying for the subscrition.
>
>Pin checks show:
>There is power to the unit
>The shielded data wires from the two units cont. ck good No shorts to
>shields or ground on data wires This is a refurbished unit, so I have
>that unknown factor but it's from a good dealer.
>Any thoughts on this?
>
>Rick Sked
>40185
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| Subject: | Re: Section 30-3 The Steps |
Just to pipe in, my steps also had the pre-drilled hole, also were off by the same
amount, I also called and talked to tech support, who also acted surprised
and gave me the same response. At least they're consistent.
Dwight
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| Subject: | 3-D Panel Wizard |
Does anyone have the 3-D Panel Wizard program that was available from the Accuracy
Avionics website? The site is still up and the link is still there but the
the sign-in to the file storage site no longer works.
Thanks,
--------
Kevin
40494
empennage
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead-Aero Missing? |
The website www.rivethead-aero.com is no longer up either.
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Kevin
40494
empennage
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead-Aero Missing? |
That must have just happened today because I was on the site yesterday.
Steve
40654 Emp.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KiloPapa
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:51 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead-Aero Missing?
The website www.rivethead-aero.com is no longer up either.
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Kevin
40494
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| Subject: | 3-D Panel Wizard |
Hi Kevin
I have the files and will gladly send them to you. The files are just over
5MB. Will you email take a file that large?
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643 - some assembly required
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KiloPapa
Sent: September-18-08 3:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: 3-D Panel Wizard
Does anyone have the 3-D Panel Wizard program that was available from the
Accuracy Avionics website? The site is still up and the link is still there
but the the sign-in to the file storage site no longer works.
Thanks,
--------
Kevin
40494
empennage
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall penetrations - electrical |
Update - Paul Bomar also sells a 2000 degree silicone seal for his fire protection
kits. He has kindly offered to sell me some at a reasonable price. Sounds
like this stuff is a lot better than the red goop........
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OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing |
Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that
transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an
important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where
sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in
this location.
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead-Aero Missing? |
Looks like not keeping up on the site caused it to slip
by without renewal....
According to a Whois search, the domain just expired.
Creation date: 17 Sep 2005 10:24:04
Expiration date: 17 Sep 2008 10:24:04
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Steve Stella wrote:
>
> That must have just happened today because I was on the site yesterday.
>
> Steve
> 40654 Emp.
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> Do not archive
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KiloPapa
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:51 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead-Aero Missing?
>
>
> The website www.rivethead-aero.com is no longer up either.
>
> --------
> Kevin
> 40494
> empennage
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> do not archive
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| Subject: | Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing |
I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that only
the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't buy
much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have just
covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot is
pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I have a
real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot
here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until I'm
ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL Imperial
one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few
minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed. Changed
the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's
approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich and
flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm fine. We
frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above 100.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to
provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that is
much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs on
rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than the
ones sold for airplanes.
-----Original Message-----
Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that
transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an
important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where
sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in
this location.
Robin
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| Subject: | Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing |
Albert,
Thanks for the note. We have discovered the drawback of the
standard oil cooler (high temps) and will be playing with the Airflow
2008 X oil cooler designed for aircraft up to 390 Hp. We hope to be able
to control oil temps with this mod instead of adding side or lower cowl
louvers. We should know more in a week. Unfortunately the larger oil
cooler does not resolve an apparent differential pressure issue in the
SJ cowl & plenum preventing max flow of air over the cooler fins.
I have a concept in mind that would place a shroud over the
outlet side of the oil cooler and terminates on the bottom of the cowl.
In flight the venturi effect should draw the air through the cooling
fins at pretty high velocity helping to cool the oil. I am sure there
are unintended consequences to this design that I can't yet comprehend.
Additionally it falls well outside of the KISS principle.
I would love to see photos of your dual oil cooler if at all
handy.
BTW I asked the question "off line" why one would not place a
NACA vent on the lower cowl to drive air through the oil cooler. The
response we received is that NACA vents are extremely efficient when no
back pressure is present but when there is enough back pressure the NACA
vent "plugs up" with the resisting air which results in basically no
airflow through the scat tubing and thus no air through the cooling
fins. Exactly the opposite of the desired effect. Whoops.
On a lighter note. I was on my regular commute in the 6A
climbing through 7,000' when I heard a BANG behind me. An unusual sound
like that gets your attention, and quick. Because my plan was to level
off at 7,500'that is when I am pulling back power, prop and refining
mixture, engaging the altitude hold, checking temperatures, looking for
traffic, talking to Santa Barbara Approach... Heck, I don't have time to
look for anything that may be falling off the plane. In those moments
the mind races, going over anything and everything that could account
for that noise. Did I mention it was a BANG? The plane felt fine, all
seemed in order, nothing unusual. Unable to account for the source of
the sound I continued with my flight plan staying vigilant as to
anything unusual. Once on the ground I gave the plane a once over and
found the cause of the noise. I was transporting a large bag of wheat
free crackers for my Mother-in-law "special" diet. The altitude change
burst the Mylar style container in my baggage compartment. The good news
is I was able to sample the crackers on my drive home. Turns out I
prefer the regular crackers.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert
Gardner
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
<ibspud@roadrunner.com>
I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that
only
the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't
buy
much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have
just
covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot
is
pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I
have a
real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot
here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until
I'm
ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL
Imperial
one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few
minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed.
Changed
the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's
approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich
and
flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm
fine. We
frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above
100.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to
provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that
is
much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs
on
rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than
the
ones sold for airplanes.
-----Original Message-----
Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that
transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an
important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where
sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in
this location.
Robin
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