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1. 08:18 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Don McDonald)
2. 08:22 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Don McDonald)
3. 08:57 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Rick Sked)
4. 09:07 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Rick Sked)
5. 09:08 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (linn Walters)
6. 09:26 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Robin Marks)
7. 09:29 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (Don McDonald)
8. 09:43 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (Rick Sked)
9. 10:21 AM - Re: IFLYRV10.COM (Steven DiNieri)
10. 10:29 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (pascal)
11. 10:34 AM - SPAM filter (pascal)
12. 10:37 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (linn Walters)
13. 11:01 AM - Re: SPAM filter (orchidman)
14. 11:29 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (Tim Olson)
15. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) ()
16. 12:44 PM - Feedback wanted (Michael Wellenzohn)
17. 12:51 PM - Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Les Kearney)
18. 12:57 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (orchidman)
19. 01:01 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Rick Sked)
20. 01:16 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Les Kearney)
21. 01:22 PM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (linn Walters)
22. 01:28 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (David McNeill)
23. 01:38 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Jesse Saint)
24. 02:05 PM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (Albert Gardner)
25. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: SPAM filter (Kelly McMullen)
26. 02:34 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (MauleDriver)
27. 02:50 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (William Curtis)
28. 03:36 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Jesse Saint)
29. 03:39 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Les Kearney)
30. 03:53 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Les Kearney)
31. 03:58 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Les Kearney)
32. 04:17 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (William Curtis)
33. 04:47 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (John Cumins)
34. 05:31 PM - Re: SPAM filter (Don McDonald)
35. 05:33 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (John Cox)
36. 05:35 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Don McDonald)
37. 07:05 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Jesse Saint)
38. 07:15 PM - Throttle quadrant and Stein panel (MauleDriver)
39. 07:30 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (William Curtis)
40. 07:32 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Dave Saylor)
41. 07:39 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Les Kearney)
42. 09:48 PM - A dream come true (richard sipp)
43. 10:39 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Don McDonald)
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| Subject: | Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing |
Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and hopefully th
e vents I added on the sides will help.- I have a couple of extra vents i
f your interested.-
Don
--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
From: Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
<ibspud@roadrunner.com>
I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that
only
the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't
buy
much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have just
covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot is
pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I have
a
real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot
here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until I'm
ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL Imperial
one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few
minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed. Changed
the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's
approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich and
flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm fine.
We
frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above 100
.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to
provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that is
much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs on
rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than the
ones sold for airplanes.
-----Original Message-----
Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that
transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an
important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where
sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in
this location.
Robin
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| Subject: | Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing |
Great story Robin.- Glad it turned out the way it did.- Don
--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
<robin1@mrmoisture.com>
Albert,
Thanks for the note. We have discovered the drawback of the
standard oil cooler (high temps) and will be playing with the Airflow
2008 X oil cooler designed for aircraft up to 390 Hp. We hope to be able
to control oil temps with this mod instead of adding side or lower cowl
louvers. We should know more in a week. Unfortunately the larger oil
cooler does not resolve an apparent differential pressure issue in the
SJ cowl & plenum preventing max flow of air over the cooler fins.
I have a concept in mind that would place a shroud over the
outlet side of the oil cooler and terminates on the bottom of the cowl.
In flight the venturi effect should draw the air through the cooling
fins at pretty high velocity helping to cool the oil. I am sure there
are unintended consequences to this design that I can't yet comprehend.
Additionally it falls well outside of the KISS principle.
I would love to see photos of your dual oil cooler if at all
handy.
BTW I asked the question "off line" why one would not place a
NACA vent on the lower cowl to drive air through the oil cooler. The
response we received is that NACA vents are extremely efficient when no
back pressure is present but when there is enough back pressure the NACA
vent "plugs up" with the resisting air which results in basically no
airflow through the scat tubing and thus no air through the cooling
fins. Exactly the opposite of the desired effect. Whoops.
On a lighter note. I was on my regular commute in the 6A
climbing through 7,000' when I heard a BANG behind me. An unusual sound
like that gets your attention, and quick. Because my plan was to level
off at 7,500'that is when I am pulling back power, prop and refining
mixture, engaging the altitude hold, checking temperatures, looking for
traffic, talking to Santa Barbara Approach... Heck, I don't have time to
look for anything that may be falling off the plane. In those moments
the mind races, going over anything and everything that could account
for that noise. Did I mention it was a BANG? The plane felt fine, all
seemed in order, nothing unusual. Unable to account for the source of
the sound I continued with my flight plan staying vigilant as to
anything unusual. Once on the ground I gave the plane a once over and
found the cause of the noise. I was transporting a large bag of wheat
free crackers for my Mother-in-law "special" diet. The altitude
change
burst the Mylar style container in my baggage compartment. The good news
is I was able to sample the crackers on my drive home. Turns out I
prefer the regular crackers.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert
Gardner
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
<ibspud@roadrunner.com>
I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that
only
the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't
buy
much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have
just
covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot
is
pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I
have a
real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot
here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until
I'm
ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL
Imperial
one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few
minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed.
Changed
the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's
approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich
and
flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm
fine. We
frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above
100.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to
provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that
is
much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs
on
rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than
the
ones sold for airplanes.
-----Original Message-----
Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that
transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an
important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where
sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in
this location.
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing |
Don,
You need to quit showing that you have access to machine press and tumbler
making all those nifty parts..
Rick Sked
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don McDonald" <building_partner@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:17:39 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and hopefully th
e vents I added on the sides will help.=C2- I have a couple of extra vent
s if your interested.=C2-
Don
--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
From: Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
<ibspud@roadrunner.com>
I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that
only
the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't
buy
much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have just
covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot is
pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I have
a
real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot
here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until I'm
ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL Imperial
one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few
minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed. Changed
the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's
approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich and
flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm fine.
We
frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above 100
.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to
provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that is
much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs on
rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than the
ones sold for airplanes.
-----Original Message-----
Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that
transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an
important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where
sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in
this location.
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing |
One mod I saw at OSH was a metal shield that was curved and attached to the
top of the oil cooler. The shield directed the air coming through the cool
er down and back towards the cowl exit instead of forward and down in the c
owl...I'm putting the side vents on as well and really considering a airflo
w cooler after we see what happens on the first flight: http://www.aviation
techproducts.com/html/engine__parts.html
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don McDonald" <building_partner@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:17:39 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and hopefully th
e vents I added on the sides will help.=C2- I have a couple of extra vent
s if your interested.=C2-
Don
--- On Thu, 9/18/08, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
From: Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
<ibspud@roadrunner.com>
I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that
only
the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't
buy
much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have just
covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot is
pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I have
a
real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot
here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until I'm
ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL Imperial
one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few
minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed. Changed
the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's
approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich and
flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm fine.
We
frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above 100
.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to
provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that is
much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs on
rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than the
ones sold for airplanes.
-----Original Message-----
Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that
transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an
important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where
sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in
this location.
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
Don McDonald wrote:
> Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and
> hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple
> of extra vents if your interested.
> Don
>
Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size
to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper
..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-)
I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open
in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them.
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics, from
the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page.- How about you Rick?
- What system are you running?
Don
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Don McDonald wrote:
> Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and
> hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple
> of extra vents if your interested.
> Don
>
Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size
to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper
..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-)
I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open
in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them.
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
I'm not sure why Linn is having problems, If the files are too big, Matroni
cs won't let them post. I'm runnin a 2 year old Dell=C2- laptop on a netw
ork server, which is always running slow because we have so many on it...to
ok about 5 seconds to open each. Linn may be hiding out where only dialup i
s available, (airport?)=C2-as are lots of our Ozzie builders, who usually
complain (rightly so sometimes) about file size. I'll admit, I like the bi
gger files so I can zoom into them...that's how I knew you used that same p
rocess to make the vents as you did for the brackets.
Rick Sked, at work and not working..
40185
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don McDonald" <building_partner@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:28:43 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics, from
the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page.=C2- How about you Rick
?=C2- What system are you running?
Don
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Don McDonald wrote:
> Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and
> hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple
> of extra vents if your interested.
> Don
>
Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size
to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper
..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-)
I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open
in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them.
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: IFLYRV10.COM |
Hey Guys(gals),
I'm going to add more of the rv10 predrilled/machined parts to my
lineup of "stocked" parts available for resale. Does anyone have a list
of the parts using vans numbers
so I can look them up in the prints?
thanks
steven dinieri
IFLYRV10.com
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
it's more about what version and what is being used to open .jpg. I have
XP and use the standard windows Image and fax viewer. Opens up nicely.
May be a Mac or he has the default application to be paint or other, in
which case that would be the steps needed to open up the file.
Linn;
if you have XP, let me know offlist and I'll assist with changing the
"open with" to be a different app. You'll be fine after that.
Pascal
From: Don McDonald
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge
pictures)
I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same
pics, from the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page. How about
you Rick? What system are you running?
Don
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with
huge pictures)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 9:07 PM
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Don McDonald wrote:
> Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and
> hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple
> of extra vents if your interested.
> Don
>
Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size
to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper
..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-)
I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open
in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them.
Linn
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I occasionally get a screen that comes up and asks for letters and
numbers, basically a SPAM filter, when I send out a message is this a
Matronics thing? Anyone else get this as well?
Thanks!
Pascal
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
Don, I'm using Thunderbird email client ..... It opens attachments and
displays them inline with the email body.
Picture is 2039 X 1060 pixels ...... when opened by MS picture editor.
That's why I say it's huge ;-)
Linn
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Don McDonald wrote:
> I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics,
> from the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page. How about you
> Rick? What system are you running?
> Don
>
> --- On *Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters /<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>/* wrote:
>
> From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge
> pictures)
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 9:07 PM
>
> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> Don McDonald wrote:
> > Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and
> > hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple
> > of extra vents if your interested.
> > Don
> >
> Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size
> to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper
> ..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-)
>
> I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open
>
> in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them.
>
> Linn
>
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To solve all the email problems, use the FORUM interface.
So much easier and you can scroll through all the messages for each thread checking
history of others posts without having to pull them out of your email program
history.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB
(N2GB registered)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5102#205102
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
Linn and others like me who use T-bird....
Install ImageZoom: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/139
Then you can right-click the pic and choose "image fit"
as one of the zoom options. I think resize functionality
will be standard in 3.0 later.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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linn Walters wrote:
>
> Don, I'm using Thunderbird email client ..... It opens attachments and
> displays them inline with the email body.
> Picture is 2039 X 1060 pixels ...... when opened by MS picture editor.
> That's why I say it's huge ;-)
> Linn
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
There is a setting on Internet Explorer and Firefox to automatically resize images.
For Internet Explorer:
- Tools
- Internet Options
- Advanced
- Multimedia
- (Check) Enable Automatic Image Resizing
I can't seem to find the settings in the latest version of Firefox.
This will resize any images to fit your current window.
Its an internet browser setting.
Jim C
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From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
it's more about what version and what is being used to open .jpg. I have XP and
use the standard windows Image and fax viewer. Opens up nicely. May be a Mac
or he has the default application to be paint or other, in which case that would
be the steps needed to open up the file.
Linn;
if you have XP, let me know offlist and I'll assist with changing the "open with"
to be a different app. You'll be fine after that.
Pascal
From: Don McDonald
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics, from
the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page. How about you Rick? What
system are you running?
Don
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 9:07 PM
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Don McDonald wrote:
> Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and
> hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple
> of extra vents if your interested.
> Don
>
Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size
to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper
..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-)
I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open
in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them.
Linn
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Hi,
this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
Best
Michael
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RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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| Subject: | Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions |
Hi
As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have
two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are running
through a 3/8" bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is larger than
required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax so
that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure?
Inquiring m minds need to know.
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643 - some assembly required.
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback wanted |
On the left side, if you go with a 4500, I don't think you will have enough room
for the 2.25 BU instruments. Maybe with a 3500. I will do some measuring tonight.
I have a 4500 on the left and like you 2 center stacks. I put my 3 2.25
BU instruments at the bottom of the left stack.
I also put my 430W in the left stack. For IFR purposes, I believe where you have
it, it will be out side of the 'legal' viewing area. True the AFS will be
your primary ADI/HSI but I still like it in my cross check.
My left stack is from top to bottom annunciator lights, AP, 430W and BU instruments.
Also, I am finishing up my wiring and if you can I sure would consider a 4500 on
the left side. But you need to include it in your construction before you cut
the panel. Also, you will need to increase the clearance on the rib by at
least a half inch over a 3500.
My .2 cents worth.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB
(N2GB registered)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5124#205124
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| Subject: | Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions |
Les,
I put a few dabs of silicone on the the areas where the wire/tubes ran thro
ugh the bushings at the beginning and end of the runs.
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:50:50 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
Hi
As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have
two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are runni
ng through a 3/8=9D bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is l
arger than required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes &
coax so that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure?
Inquiring m minds need to know.
Cheers
Les Kearney
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Thanks Rick
That sounds like a plan.
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 19-Sep-08, at 2:01 PM, Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Les,
>
> I put a few dabs of silicone on the the areas where the wire/tubes
> ran through the bushings at the beginning and end of the runs.
>
> Rick Sked
>
> 40185
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:50:50 PM (GMT-0800) America/
> Los_Angeles
> Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
>
>
> Hi
>
>
> As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring.
> I have two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system.
> They are running through a 3/8=9D bushing along with a COAX
cable. The
> bushing is larger than required so I am wonder if it is necessary t
> o secure the tubes & coax so that they do not move. If so, what is t
> he recommended procedure?
>
>
> Inquiring m minds need to know.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Les Kearney
>
> #40643 =93 some assembly required.
>
>
> get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> p://forums.matronics.com
> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
Many thanks Tim!!! I downloaded, installed, and it worked!!! Imagine
that!!!
Linn
do not archive
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Linn and others like me who use T-bird....
>
> Install ImageZoom: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/139
>
> Then you can right-click the pic and choose "image fit"
> as one of the zoom options. I think resize functionality
> will be standard in 3.0 later.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> linn Walters wrote:
>> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Don, I'm using Thunderbird email client ..... It opens attachments
>> and displays them inline with the email body.
>> Picture is 2039 X 1060 pixels ...... when opened by MS picture
>> editor. That's why I say it's huge ;-)
>> Linn
>> do not archive
>
>
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I used adel clamps at the inspection panels to firmly attach the wiring; I
would be careful of potting them in with silicon or anything else as those
holes may need to carry another wire at a later date. it's difficult to
insert another wire in a hole potted with silicone within a wing.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
Les,
I put a few dabs of silicone on the the areas where the wire/tubes ran
through the bushings at the beginning and end of the runs.
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:50:50 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
Hi
As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have
two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are running
through a 3/8" bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is larger than
required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax so
that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure?
Inquiring m minds need to know.
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643 - some assembly required.
get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
p://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback wanted |
Give me a call to chat about this. I am in the process of putting a
panel very much like this together.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:44 PM, "Michael Wellenzohn"
<rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:
> >
>
> Hi,
> this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
>
> Best
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg
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| Subject: | Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) |
If the problem is file size, we can reduce the size of the pictures we post
to the list several ways. One simple one is to use Microsoft's Power Toy
ImageResizer program. It attaches to your right mouse button and when you
right click an image file name the option to resize appears.
Resizing one of Don's jpeg files (IMG_2277c) reduced it from a 2043x944
pixel 137KB file to a 640x296 pixel 29KB file.
The file name stays the same but the text (small) is added to the end of the
file name, i.e. IMG_2277c (Small).jpg The original is unaffected.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
-----Original Message-----
Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size
to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper
..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-)
Linn
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You can get the best of both, using Gmail interface, including Google
search capabilities within your email.
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:00 AM, orchidman <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>
> To solve all the email problems, use the FORUM interface.
>
> So much easier and you can scroll through all the messages for each thread checking
history of others posts without having to pull them out of your email program
history.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB
> (N2GB registered)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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I don't have the same situation since my pitot tube is running
separately from any coax. But where I have coax and lighting wires, I
am tying them together in the middle of each rib bay between the
bushings. I did this before the bottom skin went on. I used the waxed
string stuff. Seems better than letting them remain separate for the
12"+ between ribs.
Bill
Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I
> have two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They
> are running through a 3/8" bushing along with a COAX cable. The
> bushing is larger than required so I am wonder if it is necessary to
> secure the tubes & coax so that they do not move. If so, what is the
> recommended procedure?
>
>
>
> Inquiring m minds need to know.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les Kearney
>
> #40643 -- some assembly required.
>
> *
>
>
> *
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-Unless you fly regularly with a co-pilot, you may want to consider putting the
AFS3500s next to each other and the VP-200 on the right. You would have the
reverisionay mode in case a display falis and or moving map if you get that option
right in fron of you.
-The GTX-327 transponder is not that deep, however the GTX-330 and it's European
equivalent, the GTX-328 is very deep (28.6 cm) and will require that you cut
through the secondary panel. At the bottom of the stack, cutting through the
secondary panel will provide little if any room for reinforcement. This is the
primary reason I placed my transponder further up the stack.
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
>
> Hi,
> this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
>
> Best
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> #511
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg
>
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback wanted |
Feedback that might be helpful to everybody online is regarding the
VP-200. My recommendation is to have the switch panel right by the
PFD, so right below your left AFS screen. You can fit it there even
if you have the 4500. Also, even if you plan to start with the 3500,
I would get a 4500 tray and adapter plate to mount the 3500 so it will
be a slide-in upgrade to go to the 4500. I've done this and it works
great.
Next, on the VP-200 Display Unit, that does not need to be as close to
the pilot's hands as you have it. It's a great reference item, but
you really spend very little time with your hands on it. In my
experience you will spend a lot more time with you hands on the 430
and maybe the backup COM than you will with the VP Screen. Once you
get it setup, you hardly ever have to mess with it, which is one of
the reasons VP is a great way to go for anybody. You will also now
have a dedicated Engine Monitor display, so you can use all of your
screen real estate for EFIS, Map and HSI.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
> >
>
> Hi,
> this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
>
> Best
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions |
Bill
I just received a spool of wire lacing from Stein today along with a package
of other goodies. I was going to tie the COAX and tubes using a running set
of knots. My only concern was the small tubes "bouncing" in the bushings.
This may be a non-issue though.
Cheers
Les
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
Sent: September-19-08 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
I don't have the same situation since my pitot tube is running separately
from any coax. But where I have coax and lighting wires, I am tying them
together in the middle of each rib bay between the bushings. I did this
before the bottom skin went on. I used the waxed string stuff. Seems
better than letting them remain separate for the 12"+ between ribs.
Bill
Les Kearney wrote:
Hi
As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have
two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are running
through a 3/8" bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is larger than
required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax so
that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure?
Inquiring m minds need to know.
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643 - some assembly required.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com
/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri
bution
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Hi Michael
You avionics selection matches mine exactly except that I am using the VP100
so as to save panel space.
I do not have any steam gauges as I plan to put my AFS4500's side by side.
They will have dual AHRS and battery back ups so I will have complete EFIS
redundancy. I don't think steam gauges will do anything for me. Besides, as
I am using an Eggenfelllner Subaru, I don't have a vacuum pump.
I suggest you print off a full size version of your panel and tape it to
your panel. Sit in your fuse and see how things look when actually sitting
in the fuse. I have gone through a dozen iterations of my panel before
landing on something that made sense to me.
You may want to look at the Accuracy Avionics panel or the Stein panel that
allows the stack to be canted towards you. Although Accuracy has gone tango
uniform, you can still get the fibreglass from Tony Sustare.
Cheers
Les Kearney
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: September-19-08 1:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Feedback wanted
Hi,
this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
Best
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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Michael
Another thing to consider - you may want to have some annuciator lights that
will indicate that there is a MASTER ALARM or perhaps a door ajar. Mind you
if the door is ajar in flight, then its immediate departure will likely be
warning enough <vbg>.
Seriously though, if the VP200 is moved out of your normal field of vision,
a MASTER caution located above the AFS 3500 will tell you scan everything
RIGHT NOW!
Cheers
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: September-19-08 1:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Feedback wanted
Hi,
this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
Best
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback wanted |
I thought about the option of putting in the trays for the 4500 but consider this;
A 3400 has the same screen size and resolution as 4500 and according to AFS,
an upgraded 3400 will be functionally equivalent to a 4500 with the exception
of front mounting. The only thing you will not get with an upgraded 3400
is the form factor and front mounting. The 3400 form factor has certain benefits
over the 4500 form factor. With the 3400 form factor you can place the units
closer together than the 4500. With a 3400, you have less panel material
to remove, this can be important as you push the screens further to the edge of
the panel in order to make them fit. So if front panel mounting is not important
to you, get the 3400 and then upgrade the same units when you are ready.
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
>
> Feedback that might be helpful to everybody online is regarding the
> VP-200. My recommendation is to have the switch panel right by the
> PFD, so right below your left AFS screen. You can fit it there even
> if you have the 4500. Also, even if you plan to start with the 3500,
> I would get a 4500 tray and adapter plate to mount the 3500 so it will
> be a slide-in upgrade to go to the 4500. I've done this and it works
> great.
>
> Next, on the VP-200 Display Unit, that does not need to be as close to
> the pilot's hands as you have it. It's a great reference item, but
> you really spend very little time with your hands on it. In my
> experience you will spend a lot more time with you hands on the 430
> and maybe the backup COM than you will with the VP Screen. Once you
> get it setup, you hardly ever have to mess with it, which is one of
> the reasons VP is a great way to go for anybody. You will also now
> have a dedicated Engine Monitor display, so you can use all of your
> screen real estate for EFIS, Map and HSI.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
>
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> > this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
> >
> > Best
> > Michael
> >
> > --------
> > RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> > #511
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Attachments:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Wow great panel lay out that is exactly what I was looking for can you send
me a complete equipment list you are planning on.
Thanks
John G. Cumins
President
JC'S Interactive Systems
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94533
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
Your Total Technology Solution Provider
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Feedback wanted
Hi,
this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
Best
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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Evrery once in a while.... couple of months in between.- Yes, running XP.
- I use a program called Thunbs, to compress and crop the files.- Don
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, pascal <pascal@rv10builder.net> wrote:
From: pascal <pascal@rv10builder.net>
Subject: RV10-List: SPAM filter
I occasionally get a screen that comes up and asks for letters and numbers,
basically a SPAM filter, when I send out a message-is this a Matronics t
hing? Anyone else get this as well?
Thanks!
Pascal
=0A=0A=0A
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Remarkably well designed and laid out.
I am placing the VP-Switch panel in the overhead as part of the air
plenum construction. Les had an excellent recommendation on the Warning
and Caution light strip at the top of the instrument panel. Of course
the "Bitching Betty" feature on the AFS makes for a remarkable choice of
product.
You're doing a great job and I'm looking forward to its flight and the
news of the accomplishment.
John Cox
#600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Feedback wanted
<rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Hi,
this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
Best
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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| Subject: | Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions |
Les, did you get your brackets yet?- I didn't know I was supposed to fill
out a cnkjdahaerfgf custom form... so let me know.--- In my wing I u
sed a length of that thin wall drip sprinkler system pipe.- Really cheap,
really light, and no chaffing.- Don
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
Hi
-
As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have
two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are runni
ng through a 3/8=94 bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is larger
than required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax
so that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure?
-
Inquiring m minds need to know.
-
Cheers
-
Les Kearney
#40643 ' some assembly required.
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback wanted |
You mean 3500, not 3400. The latter is the 6.4". There are a lot of
differences including 2 knobs, joysticks, better screen, faster
processor allowing for synthetic vision, front mount is a huge plus.
Olnly drawback is that it takes up more space. Forward planning for
4500 upgrade is wise, IMHO, and using the adapter for a 3500 makes it
front mount.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
On Sep 19, 2008, at 7:34 PM, "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
wrote:
>
> I thought about the option of putting in the trays for the 4500 but
> consider this; A 3400 has the same screen size and resolution as
> 4500 and according to AFS, an upgraded 3400 will be functionally
> equivalent to a 4500 with the exception of front mounting. The only
> thing you will not get with an upgraded 3400 is the form factor and
> front mounting. The 3400 form factor has certain benefits over the
> 4500 form factor. With the 3400 form factor you can place the units
> closer together than the 4500. With a 3400, you have less panel
> material to remove, this can be important as you push the screens
> further to the edge of the panel in order to make them fit. So if
> front panel mounting is not important to you, get the 3400 and then
> upgrade the same units when you are ready.
>
> William
> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>> <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>
>> Feedback that might be helpful to everybody online is regarding the
>> VP-200. My recommendation is to have the switch panel right by the
>> PFD, so right below your left AFS screen. You can fit it there even
>> if you have the 4500. Also, even if you plan to start with the 3500,
>> I would get a 4500 tray and adapter plate to mount the 3500 so it
>> will
>> be a slide-in upgrade to go to the 4500. I've done this and it works
>> great.
>>
>> Next, on the VP-200 Display Unit, that does not need to be as close
>> to
>> the pilot's hands as you have it. It's a great reference item, but
>> you really spend very little time with your hands on it. In my
>> experience you will spend a lot more time with you hands on the 430
>> and maybe the backup COM than you will with the VP Screen. Once you
>> get it setup, you hardly ever have to mess with it, which is one of
>> the reasons VP is a great way to go for anybody. You will also now
>> have a dedicated Engine Monitor display, so you can use all of your
>> screen real estate for EFIS, Map and HSI.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> Cell: 352-427-0285
>> Fax: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> --------
>>> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
>>> #511
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Throttle quadrant and Stein panel |
I've got the Stein panel with the canted center stack (I'm liking it a
lot so far). However, I trying to install the throttle quadrant and
find a few challenges. Since the center stack sticks out a bit, it
seems to require that either the quadrant be installed 3/4" or more
below the bottom of the panel and also be installed an inch or so
further aft. Otherwise the center stack and the throttle controls
interfere with each other.
I've seen a post about the quadrant cables being just long enough when
installed normally. There is also a post or two about getting longer
custom cables to accomodate the Aerotronics or other panels.
Any one have any experience with this setup yet? How much lee way do I
have on the standard quadrant cables?
Bill Watson
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback wanted |
Yup, I meant 3500. As I understand it, according to AFS, when the 3500 is upgraded,
you get all those features (processor, knobs, joystick, e tc.) in the same
chassis. I guess if you planned to remove it frequently, front mounting would
be a plus, but I would rather have the smaller frame. If Rob is listening
he can confirm this.
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
>
> You mean 3500, not 3400. The latter is the 6.4". There are a lot of
> differences including 2 knobs, joysticks, better screen, faster
> processor allowing for synthetic vision, front mount is a huge plus.
> Olnly drawback is that it takes up more space. Forward planning for
> 4500 upgrade is wise, IMHO, and using the adapter for a 3500 makes it
> front mount.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> 352-427-0285
>
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 7:34 PM, "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I thought about the option of putting in the trays for the 4500 but
> > consider this; A 3400 has the same screen size and resolution as
> > 4500 and according to AFS, an upgraded 3400 will be functionally
> > equivalent to a 4500 with the exception of front mounting. The only
> > thing you will not get with an upgraded 3400 is the form factor and
> > front mounting. The 3400 form factor has certain benefits over the
> > 4500 form factor. With the 3400 form factor you can place the units
> > closer together than the 4500. With a 3400, you have less panel
> > material to remove, this can be important as you push the screens
> > further to the edge of the panel in order to make them fit. So if
> > front panel mounting is not important to you, get the 3400 and then
> > upgrade the same units when you are ready.
> >
> > William
> > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> >> <jesse@saintaviation.com>
> >>
> >> Feedback that might be helpful to everybody online is regarding the
> >> VP-200. My recommendation is to have the switch panel right by the
> >> PFD, so right below your left AFS screen. You can fit it there even
> >> if you have the 4500. Also, even if you plan to start with the 3500,
> >> I would get a 4500 tray and adapter plate to mount the 3500 so it
> >> will
> >> be a slide-in upgrade to go to the 4500. I've done this and it works
> >> great.
> >>
> >> Next, on the VP-200 Display Unit, that does not need to be as close
> >> to
> >> the pilot's hands as you have it. It's a great reference item, but
> >> you really spend very little time with your hands on it. In my
> >> experience you will spend a lot more time with you hands on the 430
> >> and maybe the backup COM than you will with the VP Screen. Once you
> >> get it setup, you hardly ever have to mess with it, which is one of
> >> the reasons VP is a great way to go for anybody. You will also now
> >> have a dedicated Engine Monitor display, so you can use all of your
> >> screen real estate for EFIS, Map and HSI.
> >>
> >> Jesse Saint
> >> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> >> jesse@saintaviation.com
> >> Cell: 352-427-0285
> >> Fax: 815-377-3694
> >>
> >> On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>> --------
> >>> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> >>> #511
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Read this topic online here:
> >>>
> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Attachments:
> >>>
> >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Michael,
You might consider swapping your left and right stacks. I find I spend a
lot of time fiddling with my audio panel, 530, and autopilot, so I put them
closer. My transponder and SL30 are in the same position you're showing in
the picture and sometimes I wish the nav/com was closer.
The AFS autopilot control might help with that one, but I would vote to put
the 430 and audio panel closer.
I think there's a picture of my panel (single 3400) on the AFS web site.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Wellenzohn
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Feedback wanted
--> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Hi,
this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback.
Best
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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| Subject: | Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions |
Hi Don
No brackets yet but I am sure they will appear in a few days. Crossing the
boarder always adds a bit to transit. Sorry about the &^*%*% customs forms.
Unfortunately we get all the government we pay for. Damn!
Cheers
Les
PS: I will look for some of the sprinkler tubing and see if it will do. I am
reluctant to tie the AOA tubes too tightly as they are so very soft. It
wouldn't help to accidently pinch a tube deep in the wing.
Cheers
_____
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: September-19-08 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
Les, did you get your brackets yet? I didn't know I was supposed to fill
out a cnkjdahaerfgf custom form... so let me know. In my wing I used a
length of that thin wall drip sprinkler system pipe. Really cheap, really
light, and no chaffing. Don
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
Hi
As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have
two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are running
through a 3/8" bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is larger than
required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax so
that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure?
Inquiring m minds need to know.
Cheers
Les Kearney
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| Subject: | A dream come true |
For those of you with mature flying airplanes disregard the
following...you already know.
For those still building or in early test flying your efforts will be
rewarded if you stick to your dreams of building and flying
the RV10.
My first attempt at building an experimental airplane was an RV4 that
provided 10 years and 700 hours of great fun and satisfaction.
The logic I used in deciding to build a 10 was to be able to still enjoy
flying a great handling airplane I might be able to build and exchange
the
"Harley Davidson" of the line for an "SUV" that could be shared more
comfortably by the rest of the family and others. Instead of formation
&
aerobatics, I hoped to find enjoyment in regaining the ability to fly in
the IFR system with state of the art avionics.
With the test phase complete and building confidence in the airplane &
Chelton EFIS/FMS system combined with the TruTrak autopilot in the IFR
system I can see that the above goals have been exceeded.
Part of the justification for the airplane was comfortable travel for
the family and the dog. So far all of the passengers have been very
happy.
The dog (wearing her ear protection) sleeps through the whole trip and
my wife says we are going to visit everyone in the address book as long
as the money holds out.
For example, we took a weekend trip from central MI to southern IL in
2:30, normally a 10 hour drive. While there we took a side trip with 4
folks for dinner at
the Land between the Lakes in KY., thirty minutes each way, normally a
2+00 drive.
The next mission was to ferry two normal guys and one big dude plus some
tools and bags from central MI to an airport just south of the DCA ADIZ
to pick up an Acro Sport biplane one of them was purchasing. Flight time
was 3+00 and fuel burn was 38 gallons. We spent several hours on the
ground and still arrived back in MI before 6:00 PM. On the return we
were given a number of re-routes which with the avionics, autopilot, and
a good copilot/radio operator, were easy to handle. We also spent a
little time in some rather rough building convective clouds. The
airplane and autopilot performed well. In spite of 10-25 knot headwinds
we still landed with an hour's fuel remaining.
The airplane is fun to fly and performs well even at max weight and is a
very productive transporter. Take your time, expand your comfort
envelope cautiously, and then accept the compliments of friends and
family with humility.
Dick Sipp
40065 N110DV
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| Subject: | Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions |
That tubing is great..I used it along both sides of the fuselage also.... a
dding wires later, either in the wings or fuselage, a piece of cake.- I u
sed cut off connectors to secure them on one side of each bulkhead.-- D
on
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
Hi Don
-
No brackets yet but I am sure they will appear in a few days. Crossing the
boarder always adds a bit to transit. Sorry about the &^*%*% customs forms.
Unfortunately we get all the government we pay for. Damn!
-
Cheers
-
Les
-
PS: I will look for some of the sprinkler tubing and see if it will do. I a
m reluctant to tie the AOA tubes too tightly as they are so very soft. It w
ouldn=92t help to accidently pinch a tube deep in the wing.
-
Cheers
-
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Sent: September-19-08 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
-
Les, did you get your brackets yet?- I didn't know I was supposed to fill
out a cnkjdahaerfgf custom form... so let me know.--- In my wing I u
sed a length of that thin wall drip sprinkler system pipe.- Really cheap,
really light, and no chaffing.- Don
--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
Hi
-
As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have
two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are runni
ng through a 3/8=94 bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is larger
than required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax
so that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure?
-
Inquiring m minds need to know.
-
Cheers
-
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