RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 09/19/08


Total Messages Posted: 43



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     1. 08:18 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Don McDonald)
     2. 08:22 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Don McDonald)
     3. 08:57 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Rick Sked)
     4. 09:07 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Rick Sked)
     5. 09:08 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (linn Walters)
     6. 09:26 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (Robin Marks)
     7. 09:29 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (Don McDonald)
     8. 09:43 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (Rick Sked)
     9. 10:21 AM - Re: IFLYRV10.COM (Steven DiNieri)
    10. 10:29 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (pascal)
    11. 10:34 AM - SPAM filter (pascal)
    12. 10:37 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (linn Walters)
    13. 11:01 AM - Re: SPAM filter (orchidman)
    14. 11:29 AM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (Tim Olson)
    15. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) ()
    16. 12:44 PM - Feedback wanted (Michael Wellenzohn)
    17. 12:51 PM - Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Les Kearney)
    18. 12:57 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (orchidman)
    19. 01:01 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Rick Sked)
    20. 01:16 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Les Kearney)
    21. 01:22 PM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (linn Walters)
    22. 01:28 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (David McNeill)
    23. 01:38 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Jesse Saint)
    24. 02:05 PM - Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) (Albert Gardner)
    25. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: SPAM filter (Kelly McMullen)
    26. 02:34 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (MauleDriver)
    27. 02:50 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (William Curtis)
    28. 03:36 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Jesse Saint)
    29. 03:39 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Les Kearney)
    30. 03:53 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Les Kearney)
    31. 03:58 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Les Kearney)
    32. 04:17 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (William Curtis)
    33. 04:47 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (John Cumins)
    34. 05:31 PM - Re: SPAM filter (Don McDonald)
    35. 05:33 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (John Cox)
    36. 05:35 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Don McDonald)
    37. 07:05 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Jesse Saint)
    38. 07:15 PM - Throttle quadrant and Stein panel (MauleDriver)
    39. 07:30 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (William Curtis)
    40. 07:32 PM - Re: Feedback wanted (Dave Saylor)
    41. 07:39 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Les Kearney)
    42. 09:48 PM - A dream come true (richard sipp)
    43. 10:39 PM - Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions (Don McDonald)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:18:50 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
    Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and hopefully th e vents I added on the sides will help.- I have a couple of extra vents i f your interested.- Don --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote: From: Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing <ibspud@roadrunner.com> I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that only the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't buy much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have just covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot is pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I have a real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until I'm ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL Imperial one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed. Changed the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich and flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm fine. We frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above 100 . Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that is much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs on rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than the ones sold for airplanes. -----Original Message----- Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in this location. Robin =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:22:59 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
    Great story Robin.- Glad it turned out the way it did.- Don --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote: From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing <robin1@mrmoisture.com> Albert, Thanks for the note. We have discovered the drawback of the standard oil cooler (high temps) and will be playing with the Airflow 2008 X oil cooler designed for aircraft up to 390 Hp. We hope to be able to control oil temps with this mod instead of adding side or lower cowl louvers. We should know more in a week. Unfortunately the larger oil cooler does not resolve an apparent differential pressure issue in the SJ cowl & plenum preventing max flow of air over the cooler fins. I have a concept in mind that would place a shroud over the outlet side of the oil cooler and terminates on the bottom of the cowl. In flight the venturi effect should draw the air through the cooling fins at pretty high velocity helping to cool the oil. I am sure there are unintended consequences to this design that I can't yet comprehend. Additionally it falls well outside of the KISS principle. I would love to see photos of your dual oil cooler if at all handy. BTW I asked the question "off line" why one would not place a NACA vent on the lower cowl to drive air through the oil cooler. The response we received is that NACA vents are extremely efficient when no back pressure is present but when there is enough back pressure the NACA vent "plugs up" with the resisting air which results in basically no airflow through the scat tubing and thus no air through the cooling fins. Exactly the opposite of the desired effect. Whoops. On a lighter note. I was on my regular commute in the 6A climbing through 7,000' when I heard a BANG behind me. An unusual sound like that gets your attention, and quick. Because my plan was to level off at 7,500'that is when I am pulling back power, prop and refining mixture, engaging the altitude hold, checking temperatures, looking for traffic, talking to Santa Barbara Approach... Heck, I don't have time to look for anything that may be falling off the plane. In those moments the mind races, going over anything and everything that could account for that noise. Did I mention it was a BANG? The plane felt fine, all seemed in order, nothing unusual. Unable to account for the source of the sound I continued with my flight plan staying vigilant as to anything unusual. Once on the ground I gave the plane a once over and found the cause of the noise. I was transporting a large bag of wheat free crackers for my Mother-in-law "special" diet. The altitude change burst the Mylar style container in my baggage compartment. The good news is I was able to sample the crackers on my drive home. Turns out I prefer the regular crackers. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:59 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing <ibspud@roadrunner.com> I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that only the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't buy much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have just covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot is pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I have a real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until I'm ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL Imperial one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed. Changed the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich and flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm fine. We frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above 100. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that is much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs on rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than the ones sold for airplanes. -----Original Message----- Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in this location. Robin =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:57:30 AM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
    Don, You need to quit showing that you have access to machine press and tumbler making all those nifty parts.. Rick Sked 40185 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don McDonald" <building_partner@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:17:39 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and hopefully th e vents I added on the sides will help.=C2- I have a couple of extra vent s if your interested.=C2- Don --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote: From: Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing <ibspud@roadrunner.com> I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that only the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't buy much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have just covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot is pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I have a real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until I'm ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL Imperial one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed. Changed the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich and flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm fine. We frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above 100 . Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that is much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs on rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than the ones sold for airplanes. -----Original Message----- Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in this location. Robin


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    Time: 09:07:23 AM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
    One mod I saw at OSH was a metal shield that was curved and attached to the top of the oil cooler. The shield directed the air coming through the cool er down and back towards the cowl exit instead of forward and down in the c owl...I'm putting the side vents on as well and really considering a airflo w cooler after we see what happens on the first flight: http://www.aviation techproducts.com/html/engine__parts.html Rick Sked 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don McDonald" <building_partner@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:17:39 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and hopefully th e vents I added on the sides will help.=C2- I have a couple of extra vent s if your interested.=C2- Don --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote: From: Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing <ibspud@roadrunner.com> I've been playing with this area but it's complicated by the fact that only the '10 has a hinged nose gear. It almost seems like a fairing doesn't buy much after allowance is made for the gear leg movement. So far I have just covered up as much of the slot forward of the leg as possible-that slot is pretty large to allow for cowl removal-to help with engine cooling. I have a real issue with cooling and I'm adding a second oil cooler. Just too hot here for 1 cooler. I have to keep the engine in my refrigerator until I'm ready to fly as it is! Actually, my worst flight was out of IPL Imperial one evening, OAT was about 95 and we were stuck on the ground for a few minutes, oil temp was 230 on takeoff, it hit 245 before I landed. Changed the oil but I don't want too see that again. Too many times with OAT's approaching 100 on takeoff I have to reduce power, keep mix full rich and flatten climb to keep temps down. Once OAT drops below 80 or so I'm fine. We frequently have a 10 degree inversion here with OAT on the ground above 100 . Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ PS: after seeing the small ice chests sold at Oshkosh and elsewhere to provide some cooling in the cabin I found a tent cooler at Cabellas that is much cheaper. Fits between the rear seats, blows cool air forward, runs on rechargeable batteries or a 12v plugin. Only $80 and far cheaper than the ones sold for airplanes. -----Original Message----- Has anyone designed / built an intersecting nose gear fairing that transitions from the lower cowl to the nose gear? This seems like an important place to manage the airflow (directly behind the prop) where sharp angles intersect. All the other Vans A models have a fearing in this location. Robin


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    Time: 09:08:22 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    Don McDonald wrote: > Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and > hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple > of extra vents if your interested. > Don > Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper ..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-) I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them. Linn


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    Time: 09:26:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
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    Time: 09:29:23 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics, from the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page.- How about you Rick? - What system are you running? Don --- On Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Don McDonald wrote: > Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and > hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple > of extra vents if your interested. > Don > Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper ..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-) I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them. Linn =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:43:54 AM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    I'm not sure why Linn is having problems, If the files are too big, Matroni cs won't let them post. I'm runnin a 2 year old Dell=C2- laptop on a netw ork server, which is always running slow because we have so many on it...to ok about 5 seconds to open each. Linn may be hiding out where only dialup i s available, (airport?)=C2-as are lots of our Ozzie builders, who usually complain (rightly so sometimes) about file size. I'll admit, I like the bi gger files so I can zoom into them...that's how I knew you used that same p rocess to make the vents as you did for the brackets. Rick Sked, at work and not working.. 40185 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don McDonald" <building_partner@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:28:43 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics, from the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page.=C2- How about you Rick ?=C2- What system are you running? Don --- On Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Don McDonald wrote: > Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and > hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple > of extra vents if your interested. > Don > Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper ..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-) I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them. Linn 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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    Time: 10:21:42 AM PST US
    From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
    Subject: Re: IFLYRV10.COM
    Hey Guys(gals), I'm going to add more of the rv10 predrilled/machined parts to my lineup of "stocked" parts available for resale. Does anyone have a list of the parts using vans numbers so I can look them up in the prints? thanks steven dinieri IFLYRV10.com


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    Time: 10:29:59 AM PST US
    From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    it's more about what version and what is being used to open .jpg. I have XP and use the standard windows Image and fax viewer. Opens up nicely. May be a Mac or he has the default application to be paint or other, in which case that would be the steps needed to open up the file. Linn; if you have XP, let me know offlist and I'll assist with changing the "open with" to be a different app. You'll be fine after that. Pascal From: Don McDonald Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics, from the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page. How about you Rick? What system are you running? Don --- On Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 9:07 PM <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Don McDonald wrote: > Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and > hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple > of extra vents if your interested. > Don > Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper ..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-) I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them. Linn 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D


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    Time: 10:34:07 AM PST US
    From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
    Subject: SPAM filter
    I occasionally get a screen that comes up and asks for letters and numbers, basically a SPAM filter, when I send out a message is this a Matronics thing? Anyone else get this as well? Thanks! Pascal


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    Time: 10:37:00 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    Don, I'm using Thunderbird email client ..... It opens attachments and displays them inline with the email body. Picture is 2039 X 1060 pixels ...... when opened by MS picture editor. That's why I say it's huge ;-) Linn do not archive Don McDonald wrote: > I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics, > from the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page. How about you > Rick? What system are you running? > Don > > --- On *Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters /<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>/* wrote: > > From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge > pictures) > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 9:07 PM > > <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> > > Don McDonald wrote: > > Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and > > hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple > > of extra vents if your interested. > > Don > > > Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size > to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper > ..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-) > > I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open > > in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them. > > Linn > > > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 11:01:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: SPAM filter
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    To solve all the email problems, use the FORUM interface. So much easier and you can scroll through all the messages for each thread checking history of others posts without having to pull them out of your email program history. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5102#205102


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    Time: 11:29:11 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    Linn and others like me who use T-bird.... Install ImageZoom: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/139 Then you can right-click the pic and choose "image fit" as one of the zoom options. I think resize functionality will be standard in 3.0 later. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive linn Walters wrote: > > Don, I'm using Thunderbird email client ..... It opens attachments and > displays them inline with the email body. > Picture is 2039 X 1060 pixels ...... when opened by MS picture editor. > That's why I say it's huge ;-) > Linn > do not archive


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    Time: 11:33:52 AM PST US
    From: <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    There is a setting on Internet Explorer and Firefox to automatically resize images. For Internet Explorer: - Tools - Internet Options - Advanced - Multimedia - (Check) Enable Automatic Image Resizing I can't seem to find the settings in the latest version of Firefox. This will resize any images to fit your current window. Its an internet browser setting. Jim C Do Not Archive =========================================================== From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) it's more about what version and what is being used to open .jpg. I have XP and use the standard windows Image and fax viewer. Opens up nicely. May be a Mac or he has the default application to be paint or other, in which case that would be the steps needed to open up the file. Linn; if you have XP, let me know offlist and I'll assist with changing the "open with" to be a different app. You'll be fine after that. Pascal From: Don McDonald Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) I'm not sure what your problem is, but when I click on the same pics, from the email I sent, they come up nicely on the page. How about you Rick? What system are you running? Don --- On Fri, 9/19/08, linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 9:07 PM <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> Don McDonald wrote: > Albert, I have been anticipating the same kind of problem, and > hopefully the vents I added on the sides will help. I have a couple > of extra vents if your interested. > Don > Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper ..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-) I'm lazy ...... it's just too much trouble for me to save and then open in a paint program, and reduce size so I can see them. Linn 3D============================================ 3D============================================ 3D============================================ 3D============================================ ===========================================================


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    Time: 12:44:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Feedback wanted
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Hi, this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback. Best Michael -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg


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    Time: 12:51:40 PM PST US
    From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
    Hi As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are running through a 3/8" bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is larger than required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax so that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure? Inquiring m minds need to know. Cheers Les Kearney #40643 - some assembly required.


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    Time: 12:57:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Feedback wanted
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    On the left side, if you go with a 4500, I don't think you will have enough room for the 2.25 BU instruments. Maybe with a 3500. I will do some measuring tonight. I have a 4500 on the left and like you 2 center stacks. I put my 3 2.25 BU instruments at the bottom of the left stack. I also put my 430W in the left stack. For IFR purposes, I believe where you have it, it will be out side of the 'legal' viewing area. True the AFS will be your primary ADI/HSI but I still like it in my cross check. My left stack is from top to bottom annunciator lights, AP, 430W and BU instruments. Also, I am finishing up my wiring and if you can I sure would consider a 4500 on the left side. But you need to include it in your construction before you cut the panel. Also, you will need to increase the clearance on the rib by at least a half inch over a 3500. My .2 cents worth. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5124#205124


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    Time: 01:01:40 PM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
    Les, I put a few dabs of silicone on the the areas where the wire/tubes ran thro ugh the bushings at the beginning and end of the runs. Rick Sked 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:50:50 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions Hi As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are runni ng through a 3/8=9D bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is l arger than required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax so that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure? Inquiring m minds need to know. Cheers Les Kearney ======================== ==== ======================= ==


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    Time: 01:16:48 PM PST US
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
    Thanks Rick That sounds like a plan. Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone On 19-Sep-08, at 2:01 PM, Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com> wrote: > Les, > > I put a few dabs of silicone on the the areas where the wire/tubes > ran through the bushings at the beginning and end of the runs. > > Rick Sked > > 40185 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:50:50 PM (GMT-0800) America/ > Los_Angeles > Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions > > > Hi > > > As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. > I have two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. > They are running through a 3/8=9D bushing along with a COAX cable. The > bushing is larger than required so I am wonder if it is necessary t > o secure the tubes & coax so that they do not move. If so, what is t > he recommended procedure? > > > Inquiring m minds need to know. > > > Cheers > > > Les Kearney > > #40643 =93 some assembly required. > > > get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > p://forums.matronics.com > blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >


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    Time: 01:22:52 PM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    Many thanks Tim!!! I downloaded, installed, and it worked!!! Imagine that!!! Linn do not archive Tim Olson wrote: > > Linn and others like me who use T-bird.... > > Install ImageZoom: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/139 > > Then you can right-click the pic and choose "image fit" > as one of the zoom options. I think resize functionality > will be standard in 3.0 later. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > linn Walters wrote: >> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> >> >> Don, I'm using Thunderbird email client ..... It opens attachments >> and displays them inline with the email body. >> Picture is 2039 X 1060 pixels ...... when opened by MS picture >> editor. That's why I say it's huge ;-) >> Linn >> do not archive > >


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    Time: 01:28:54 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
    I used adel clamps at the inspection panels to firmly attach the wiring; I would be careful of potting them in with silicon or anything else as those holes may need to carry another wire at a later date. it's difficult to insert another wire in a hole potted with silicone within a wing. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions Les, I put a few dabs of silicone on the the areas where the wire/tubes ran through the bushings at the beginning and end of the runs. Rick Sked 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:50:50 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions Hi As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I have two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They are running through a 3/8" bushing along with a COAX cable. The bushing is larger than required so I am wonder if it is necessary to secure the tubes & coax so that they do not move. If so, what is the recommended procedure? Inquiring m minds need to know. Cheers Les Kearney #40643 - some assembly required. get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 01:38:00 PM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Feedback wanted
    Give me a call to chat about this. I am in the process of putting a panel very much like this together. Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:44 PM, "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote: > > > > Hi, > this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback. > > Best > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg > >


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    Time: 02:05:06 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Nose Gear Intersecting Fairing (with huge pictures)
    If the problem is file size, we can reduce the size of the pictures we post to the list several ways. One simple one is to use Microsoft's Power Toy ImageResizer program. It attaches to your right mouse button and when you right click an image file name the option to resize appears. Resizing one of Don's jpeg files (IMG_2277c) reduced it from a 2043x944 pixel 137KB file to a 640x296 pixel 29KB file. The file name stays the same but the text (small) is added to the end of the file name, i.e. IMG_2277c (Small).jpg The original is unaffected. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- Don, and others ..... when you send pictures, please reduce their size to something like 640 X 480 ...... I'd love to make them wallpaper ..... but not on the computer room wall!!! :-) Linn


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    Time: 02:07:27 PM PST US
    From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: SPAM filter
    You can get the best of both, using Gmail interface, including Google search capabilities within your email. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:00 AM, orchidman <gary@wingscc.com> wrote: > > To solve all the email problems, use the FORUM interface. > > So much easier and you can scroll through all the messages for each thread checking history of others posts without having to pull them out of your email program history. > > -------- > Gary Blankenbiller > RV10 - # 40674 > Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB > (N2GB registered) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5102#205102 > >


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    Time: 02:34:58 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Perhaps the first or many wiring related questions
    I don't have the same situation since my pitot tube is running separately from any coax. But where I have coax and lighting wires, I am tying them together in the middle of each rib bay between the bushings. I did this before the bottom skin went on. I used the waxed string stuff. Seems better than letting them remain separate for the 12"+ between ribs. Bill Les Kearney wrote: > > Hi > > > > As I work on wiring, I am a bit unsure of how to secure wing wiring. I > have two small, light pitot tubes related to the AFS AOA system. They > are running through a 3/8" bushing along with a COAX cable. The > bushing is larger than required so I am wonder if it is necessary to > secure the tubes & coax so that they do not move. If so, what is the > recommended procedure? > > > > Inquiring m minds need to know. > > > > Cheers > > > > Les Kearney > > #40643 -- some assembly required. > > * > > > *


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    Time: 02:50:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Feedback wanted
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    -Unless you fly regularly with a co-pilot, you may want to consider putting the AFS3500s next to each other and the VP-200 on the right. You would have the reverisionay mode in case a display falis and or moving map if you get that option right in fron of you. -The GTX-327 transponder is not that deep, however the GTX-330 and it's European equivalent, the GTX-328 is very deep (28.6 cm) and will require that you cut through the secondary panel. At the bottom of the stack, cutting through the secondary panel will provide little if any room for reinforcement. This is the primary reason I placed my transponder further up the stack. William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > > Hi, > this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback. > > Best > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg > > > >


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    Time: 03:36:03 PM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Feedback wanted
    Feedback that might be helpful to everybody online is regarding the VP-200. My recommendation is to have the switch panel right by the PFD, so right below your left AFS screen. You can fit it there even if you have the 4500. Also, even if you plan to start with the 3500, I would get a 4500 tray and adapter plate to mount the 3500 so it will be a slide-in upgrade to go to the 4500. I've done this and it works great. Next, on the VP-200 Display Unit, that does not need to be as close to the pilot's hands as you have it. It's a great reference item, but you really spend very little time with your hands on it. In my experience you will spend a lot more time with you hands on the 430 and maybe the backup COM than you will with the VP Screen. Once you get it setup, you hardly ever have to mess with it, which is one of the reasons VP is a great way to go for anybody. You will also now have a dedicated Engine Monitor display, so you can use all of your screen real estate for EFIS, Map and HSI. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Michael Wellenzohn wrote: > > > > Hi, > this is my desired panel layout. I would appreciate your feedback. > > Best > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5119#205119 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ynn_v14_165.jpg > >


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