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1. 05:01 AM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (linn Walters)
2. 05:43 AM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (David McNeill)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (linn Walters)
4. 06:37 AM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (David McNeill)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: Adapting SJ mainwheel pant for RV10 size nosewheel (johngoodman)
6. 07:56 AM - Firewall (Rob Hunter)
7. 08:09 AM - Re: Re: Adapting SJ mainwheel pant for RV10 size nosewheel (Ralph E. Capen)
8. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (Tim Olson)
9. 09:00 AM - Re: Firewall (Rick Sked)
10. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (Rick Sked)
11. 09:10 AM - Re: Firewall (pascal)
12. 09:15 AM - Re: Firewall (woxofswa)
13. 09:42 AM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (BPA)
14. 02:37 PM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (Don McDonald)
15. 03:02 PM - Re: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte (Fred Williams, M.D.)
16. 03:39 PM - Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Deems Davis)
17. 04:02 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (linn Walters)
18. 04:07 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (pascal)
19. 04:21 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
20. 04:22 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Kelly McMullen)
21. 04:51 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Kelly McMullen)
22. 05:25 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Jesse Saint)
23. 06:04 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Tim Olson)
24. 06:04 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Don McDonald)
25. 06:35 PM - Awesome Youtube aerobatic video (John Gonzalez)
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
Don McDonald wrote:
> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on each
> door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards about
> the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone else
> interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
> haven't had time to do the conversion....
>
That's OK Don .... thanks to Tim it's a piece of cake to do it on my
end!!!! Send more huge pictures.
BTW, I'm interested.
Linn
do not archive
> it's one he made for my cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
> Don
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
> on inte
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>
> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>
> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I checked
> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me the wording
> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The great thing
I found
> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it has to be
at
> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still had the
> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved in it and
> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached some pictures
on
> what I did.
>
> Greg Hale
> N210KH
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Don McDonald wrote:
> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on each
> door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards about
> the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone else
> interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
> haven't had time to do the conversion.... it's one he made for my
> cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
> Don
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
> on inte
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>
> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>
> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I checked
> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me the wording
> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The great thing
I found
> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it has to be
at
> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still had the
> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved in it and
> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached some pictures
on
> what I did.
>
> Greg Hale
> N210KH
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on
inte
--> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Don McDonald wrote:
> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on each
> door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards about
> the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone else
> interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
> haven't had time to do the conversion....
>
That's OK Don .... thanks to Tim it's a piece of cake to do it on my end!!!!
Send more huge pictures.
BTW, I'm interested.
Linn
do not archive
> it's one he made for my cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
> Don
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
> on inte
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>
> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>
> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I checked
> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me the
wording
> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The great
thing I found
> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it has
to be at
> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still had
the
> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved in it
and
> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached some
pictures on
> what I did.
>
> Greg Hale
> N210KH
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>
Don McDonald wrote:
> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on each
> door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards about
> the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone else
> interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
> haven't had time to do the conversion.... it's one he made for my
> cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
> Don
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
> on inte
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>
> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>
> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I checked
> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me the
wording
> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The great
thing I found
> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it has
to be at
> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still had
the
> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved in it
and
> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached some
pictures on
> what I did.
>
> Greg Hale
> N210KH
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
David McNeill wrote:
>
> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
>
Actually, the answer is below .....
"They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft."
In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering the aircraft"
..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my Pitts (don't ask ...
long story)the only 'experimental' visible was on the engraved data plate attached
to the baggage compartment door .... behind the pilots head. There was discussion
about it, but they accepted it. Being on the baggage bulkhead may meet
the letter of the law, but I think it skirts the intent. When you (the collective
'you') do things like this, where the subject isn't specifically defined
(the position of the label) ponder how you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside down' so it can be read getting
into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where mine will go,
thanks to Greg.
Linn
do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on
> inte
>
> --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> Don McDonald wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
>> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on each
>> door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards about
>> the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone else
>> interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
>> haven't had time to do the conversion....
>>
>>
> That's OK Don .... thanks to Tim it's a piece of cake to do it on my end!!!!
> Send more huge pictures.
> BTW, I'm interested.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>> it's one he made for my cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
>> Don
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
>> on inte
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>>
>> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>>
>> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
>> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I checked
>> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me the
>>
> wording
>
>> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The great
>>
> thing I found
>
>> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it has
>>
> to be at
>
>> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
>> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still had
>>
> the
>
>> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved in it
>>
> and
>
>> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached some
>>
> pictures on
>
>> what I did.
>>
>> Greg Hale
>> N210KH
>>
>> --------
>> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>
>>
> Don McDonald wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
>> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on each
>> door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards about
>> the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone else
>> interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
>> haven't had time to do the conversion.... it's one he made for my
>> cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
>> Don
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
>> on inte
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>>
>> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>>
>> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
>> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I checked
>> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me the
>>
> wording
>
>> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The great
>>
> thing I found
>
>> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it has
>>
> to be at
>
>> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
>> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still had
>>
> the
>
>> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved in it
>>
> and
>
>> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached some
>>
> pictures on
>
>> what I did.
>>
>> Greg Hale
>> N210KH
>>
>> --------
>> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
One needs to plan to preempt the plaintiffs lawyer before getting to court.
There are arrangements that make one a very distasteful fish for the shark.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on
inte
--> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
David McNeill wrote:
>
> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
>
Actually, the answer is below .....
"They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into the
aircraft."
In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering the
aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my Pitts
(don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was on the
engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door .... behind the
pilots head. There was discussion about it, but they accepted it. Being on
the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I think it skirts
the intent. When you (the collective 'you') do things like this, where the
subject isn't specifically defined (the position of the label) ponder how
you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside down' so it can be read
getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where mine
will go, thanks to Greg.
Linn
do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn
> Walters
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
> on inte
>
> --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> Don McDonald wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
>> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on
>> each door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards
>> about the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone
>> else interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
>> haven't had time to do the conversion....
>>
>>
> That's OK Don .... thanks to Tim it's a piece of cake to do it on my
end!!!!
> Send more huge pictures.
> BTW, I'm interested.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>> it's one he made for my cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
>> Don
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
>> on inte
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>>
>> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>>
>> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
>> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I
checked
>> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me
>> the
>>
> wording
>
>> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The
>> great
>>
> thing I found
>
>> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it
>> has
>>
> to be at
>
>> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
>> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still
>> had
>>
> the
>
>> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved
>> in it
>>
> and
>
>> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached
>> some
>>
> pictures on
>
>> what I did.
>>
>> Greg Hale
>> N210KH
>>
>> --------
>> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>> --
>>
>>
> Don McDonald wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
>> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on
>> each door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards
>> about the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone
>> else interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
>> haven't had time to do the conversion.... it's one he made for my
>> cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
>> Don
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
>> on inte
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>>
>> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>>
>> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
>> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I
checked
>> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me
>> the
>>
> wording
>
>> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The
>> great
>>
> thing I found
>
>> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it
>> has
>>
> to be at
>
>> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
>> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still
>> had
>>
> the
>
>> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved
>> in it
>>
> and
>
>> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached
>> some
>>
> pictures on
>
>> what I did.
>>
>> Greg Hale
>> N210KH
>>
>> --------
>> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Ralph,
Did you go up to something like a Bonanza 7.00-8?
John
--------
#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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On page 27-2 step 6 it has you dimple all the rivet holes. In step 7 it
has you rivet everything and it tells you two of the nut plates are to
go on the forward side of the firewall. I have dimpled all these to be
flush on the forward side. What do I do with these two nut plates now
that the holes are dimpled for a flush mounting on the forward side.
Rob Hunter
40432
Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Adapting SJ mainwheel pant for RV10 size nosewheel |
John,
The changes are on my 6A - posted here for the benefit of the -10 crowd wanting
a SJ type nosewheel pant.
My original nosewheel was a Matco 501.25 rim with 11 inch tire and the mains 5x5
- with me operating primarily from a grass strip - I wanted something bigger
all around.
The nose now has a 5x5 and the mains are upgraded with 380x15x5 (essentially a
6x6 tire on e 5x5 rim).
I already had the SJ mainwheel pants for the stock size so it was an easy decision.
I got a set of 6x6 pants for my new mains.
Hope this helps,
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
>From: johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Sep 23, 2008 10:50 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: Adapting SJ mainwheel pant for RV10 size nosewheel
>
>
>Ralph,
>Did you go up to something like a Bonanza 7.00-8?
>John
>
>--------
>#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
>N711JG reserved
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5701#205701
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
Linn,
I agree, the wording isn't vague at all:
"the operator must also display on that aircraft near each entrance to
the cabin, cockpit, or pilot station,"
The baggage bulkhead isn't "near each entrance" unless perhaps
you're trying to conform for the baggage door entrance.
It's not a big pissing match, but I think that anything but
near the door neither meets the law technically, nor the
laws intent. If you can get away with it, or away with it
for a while, so be it.
I'm always amazed that people want to HIDE some of these things.
I mean, you're PROUD that you built the plane. Having that
word there not only ensures people know what they're getting
into when they board, but gives great awareness to people
who see it and they may just get interested in exactly what
makes your plane unique.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
linn Walters wrote:
>
> David McNeill wrote:
>>
>> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
> Actually, the answer is below .....
>
> "They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into the
> aircraft."
> In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering the
> aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my Pitts
> (don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was on the
> engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door .... behind
> the pilots head. There was discussion about it, but they accepted it.
> Being on the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I
> think it skirts the intent. When you (the collective 'you') do things
> like this, where the subject isn't specifically defined (the position of
> the label) ponder how you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
>
> Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside down' so it can be
> read getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where
> mine will go, thanks to Greg.
> Linn
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Rob,
Your gonna think I'm crazy but I'm sure everyone has done this at least once...redimple
it on the correct direction...
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hunter" <rwhunter@integra.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:55:19 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Firewall
On page 27-2 step 6 it has you dimple all the rivet holes. In step 7 it
has you rivet everything and it tells you two of the nut plates are to
go on the forward side of the firewall. I have dimpled all these to be
flush on the forward side. What do I do with these two nut plates now
that the holes are dimpled for a flush mounting on the forward side.
Rob Hunter
40432
Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
I like it when the placard reads "does not meet the standards" and they add in
"It exceeds them" I think I saw that on Sam Bucahannan's RV..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:41:46 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte
Linn,
I agree, the wording isn't vague at all:
"the operator must also display on that aircraft near each entrance to
the cabin, cockpit, or pilot station,"
The baggage bulkhead isn't "near each entrance" unless perhaps
you're trying to conform for the baggage door entrance.
It's not a big pissing match, but I think that anything but
near the door neither meets the law technically, nor the
laws intent. If you can get away with it, or away with it
for a while, so be it.
I'm always amazed that people want to HIDE some of these things.
I mean, you're PROUD that you built the plane. Having that
word there not only ensures people know what they're getting
into when they board, but gives great awareness to people
who see it and they may just get interested in exactly what
makes your plane unique.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
linn Walters wrote:
>
> David McNeill wrote:
>>
>> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
> Actually, the answer is below .....
>
> "They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into the
> aircraft."
> In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering the
> aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my Pitts
> (don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was on the
> engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door .... behind
> the pilots head. There was discussion about it, but they accepted it.
> Being on the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I
> think it skirts the intent. When you (the collective 'you') do things
> like this, where the subject isn't specifically defined (the position of
> the label) ponder how you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
>
> Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside down' so it can be
> read getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where
> mine will go, thanks to Greg.
> Linn
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you'll use them later. One of them to hold the hydraulic lines the other for
something else.
Pascal
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rob Hunter" <rwhunter@integra.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:55 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Firewall
>
> On page 27-2 step 6 it has you dimple all the rivet holes. In step 7 it
> has you rivet everything and it tells you two of the nut plates are to
> go on the forward side of the firewall. I have dimpled all these to be
> flush on the forward side. What do I do with these two nut plates now
> that the holes are dimpled for a flush mounting on the forward side.
>
>
> Rob Hunter
> 40432
> Fuselage
>
>
>
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What can work is to pound them flat with the mushroom head on a back rivet plate
or the squeezer and then dimple them the correct way. So I've heard :)
What I found confusing on that step was whether or not to dimple the holes for
the oil cooler. The step said "rivet holes" and the oil cooler holes do eventually
get riveted.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5727#205727
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
Maybe I shouldn't comment due to ignorance, this ain't my hunt, but it
seems to me that experienced aviation people already know that a
particular aircraft is EXP so the location of the placard really is not
THAT relevant. And, people who have not been exposed climb into an
airplane and are immediately in awe of all the gadgets, screens, gauges
and buttons on the panel. Seems to me the appropriate place is right
under their noses. I know that when I climb into an unfamiliar aircraft
(one I haven't been in before), I'm looking over the panel to see where
everything is located. With the placard on the panel I have NEVER not
seen it.
Allen B.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
on inte
I like it when the placard reads "does not meet the standards" and they
add in "It exceeds them" I think I saw that on Sam Bucahannan's RV..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:41:46 AM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
on inte
Linn,
I agree, the wording isn't vague at all:
"the operator must also display on that aircraft near each entrance to
the cabin, cockpit, or pilot station,"
The baggage bulkhead isn't "near each entrance" unless perhaps
you're trying to conform for the baggage door entrance.
It's not a big pissing match, but I think that anything but
near the door neither meets the law technically, nor the
laws intent. If you can get away with it, or away with it
for a while, so be it.
I'm always amazed that people want to HIDE some of these things.
I mean, you're PROUD that you built the plane. Having that
word there not only ensures people know what they're getting
into when they board, but gives great awareness to people
who see it and they may just get interested in exactly what
makes your plane unique.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
linn Walters wrote:
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> David McNeill wrote:
>>
>> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
> Actually, the answer is below .....
>
> "They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into
the
> aircraft."
> In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering the
> aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my Pitts
> (don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was on the
> engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door ....
behind
> the pilots head. There was discussion about it, but they accepted it.
> Being on the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I
> think it skirts the intent. When you (the collective 'you') do things
> like this, where the subject isn't specifically defined (the position
of
> the label) ponder how you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
>
> Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside down' so it can
be
> read getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably
where
> mine will go, thanks to Greg.
> Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
As a complete newcomer to aviation prior to ordering the RV10 in 11-06, I a
lways kind of thought there should be a 3rd category.- Certified, Experim
ental, and Non-certified.- It's not like the 10 is built by a couple of f
armers out back of Fred's barn, saying things like "hey, lets try it this t
ime without the tail".- Our 10's are a somewhat proven machine, we merely
are able to add, delete, and modify "stuff" that happens to be sometimes,
not TSO'd.- Ok, most of the time! As Rick always says "that's my 2 cents.
Besides, I can't beleive I will ever have someone as a paaenger in my plane
who doesn't already know exactly what the situation is.
Don McDonald
#40636 Finishing
om> wrote:
From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on i
nte
Linn,
I agree, the wording isn't vague at all:
"the operator must also display on that aircraft near each entrance to
the cabin, cockpit, or pilot station,"
The baggage bulkhead isn't "near each entrance" unless perhaps
you're trying to conform for the baggage door entrance.
It's not a big pissing match, but I think that anything but
near the door neither meets the law technically, nor the
laws intent. If you can get away with it, or away with it
for a while, so be it.
I'm always amazed that people want to HIDE some of these things.
I mean, you're PROUD that you built the plane. Having that
word there not only ensures people know what they're getting
into when they board, but gives great awareness to people
who see it and they may just get interested in exactly what
makes your plane unique.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
linn Walters wrote:
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> David McNeill wrote:
<dlm46007@cox.net>
>>
>> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
> Actually, the answer is below .....
>
> "They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into
the
> aircraft."
> In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering
the
> aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my
Pitts
> (don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was
on the
> engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door .... behind
> the pilots head. There was discussion about it, but they accepted it.
> Being on the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I
> think it skirts the intent. When you (the collective 'you') do
things
> like this, where the subject isn't specifically defined (the position
of
> the label) ponder how you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
>
> Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside
down' so it can be
> read getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where
> mine will go, thanks to Greg.
> Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
So I shouldn't fess up to who I had help me build this flying machine???
By the way, another timely post. Made up some decals today and will get
'em on the door tonight. Upside down. Will have to get the cows out
of the way first. We are in Texas. Everyone has their own cows.
Dr Fred. :-)
Don McDonald wrote:
> As a complete newcomer to aviation prior to ordering the RV10 in
> 11-06, I always kind of thought there should be a 3rd category.
> Certified, Experimental, and Non-certified. It's not like the 10 is
> built by a couple of farmers out back of Fred's barn, saying things
> like "hey, lets try it this time without the tail". Our 10's are a
> somewhat proven machine, we merely are able to add, delete, and modify
> "stuff" that happens to be sometimes, not TSO'd. Ok, most of the
> time! As Rick always says "that's my 2 cents.
> Besides, I can't beleive I will ever have someone as a paaenger in my
> plane who doesn't already know exactly what the situation is.
> Don McDonald
> #40636 Finishing
>
> */om>/* wrote:
>
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental"
> required on inte
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 8:41 AM
>
>
> Linn,
>
> I agree, the wording isn't vague at all:
>
> "the operator must also display on that aircraft near each entrance to
> the cabin, cockpit, or pilot station,"
>
> The baggage bulkhead isn't "near each entrance" unless perhaps
> you're trying to conform for the baggage door entrance.
>
> It's not a big pissing match, but I think that anything but
> near the door neither meets the law technically, nor the
> laws intent. If you can get away with it, or away with it
> for a while, so be it.
>
> I'm always amazed that people want to HIDE some of these things.
> I mean, you're PROUD that you built the plane. Having that
> word there not only ensures people know what they're getting
> into when they board, but gives great awareness to people
> who see it and they may just get interested in exactly what
> makes your plane unique.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
> linn Walters wrote:
> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > David McNeill wrote:
> <dlm46007@cox.net>
> >>
> >> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
> > Actually, the answer is below .....
> >
> > "They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into
> the
> > aircraft."
> > In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering
> the
> > aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my
> Pitts
> > (don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was
> on the
> > engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door .... behind
> > the pilots head. There was discussion about it, but they accepted it.
> > Being on the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I
> > think it skirts the intent. When you (the collective 'you') do
> things
> > like this, where the subject isn't specifically defined (the position
> of
> > the label) ponder how you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
> >
> > Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside
> down' so it can be
> > read getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where
> > mine will go, thanks to Greg.
> > Linn
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a
25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service
personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and
reset the breaker.
DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it
appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/
15 amp motors.
Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
Deems
not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
The problem is the startup current of the motor. The start winding
draws a lot of current getting up to speed where the run winding takes
over .... and uses less current. Typically the oilless compressors work
better, but you won't get the volume you're used to. It's a trade off.
The other problem is how far from the breaker box you are. Hangar
wiring is notoriously small .... the hangars were designed to house
airplanes .... not be manufacturing facilities. When we built new
hangars at my airport I inquired if we could increase the current
capability by paying a little more for the increased cost of the
wiring. Hangars are designed with a power density .... so much power
per sq. foot. I wanted 220 available for my big compressor and paid an
extra $150 for the addition, and it was drawn into the plans. It was
cooperation with the airport that made the difference.
Now for a little 'cheat' ...... typically hangars are wired so that
every other hangar is on the same leg of the 220. If you steal the hot
leg from the hangar next to you, and use your leg, you have 220 service,
and the 15A breakers will do just fine ...... unless you're on the
opposite end of the hangar from the breakers!
Linn
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a
> 25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
> say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
> circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
> Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the
> compressor trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport
> service personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come
> out and reset the breaker.
> DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
> beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but
> it appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all
> come w/ 15 amp motors.
>
> Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
> 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which
> will not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
>
>
> Deems
>
> not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
I have a Craftsman 2HP 25 gallon
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00919541000P same amps but never
has been an issue for me with a 15amp circuit and other electrical items
running on the same circuit.
You may want to assure that your CH is running alone with nothing else
running when you have it compress air. I turn my off "auto" and manually
select to have it load up again at my timing not whenever it feels it needs
it. The result is never a popped circuit.
Pascal
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
>
> I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a 25
> yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it say's
> draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage circuit,
> which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
> Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
> trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service personnel
> are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and reset the
> breaker.
> DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way beyond
> my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it appears
> that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/ 15 amp
> motors.
>
> Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
> 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
> not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
>
>
> Deems
>
> not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Have them replace the breaker with 20 amp, it should be 12-2 wire and plenty enough
to handle the load plus the breaker may be shot anyhow
------Original Message------
From: Deems Davis
Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Rv
Sent: Sep 23, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a
25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service
personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and
reset the breaker.
DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it
appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/
15 amp motors.
Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
Deems
not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Hmm, Home Depot has Husky 30 gal that is what I am using..but I have
20 amp circuit at the hangar, but I also am running all the lights on
same circuit. Lowes has equivalent Kobalt. Both are oil lubed, belt
driven compressors that I think have much lower starting current than
the oil-free pumps.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a 25 yr
> old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it say's draws
> 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage circuit, which I
> 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
> Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
> trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service personnel
> are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and reset the
> breaker.
> DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way beyond my
> understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it appears that
> most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/ 15 amp motors.
>
> Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be 'fixed'
> to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will not trip?
> What are you guys using at the hangar?
>
>
> Deems
>
> not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Not at most city owned hangars. It isn't uncommon for more than one
hangar to share a breaker, and wiring often is 14-2. They are not
interested in increasing capacity for owners. However, Deems, at DVT
there are relatively new outlets on the shades in front of the hangars
and they may be higher capacity.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:17 PM, <ricksked@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Have them replace the breaker with 20 amp, it should be 12-2 wire and plenty
enough to handle the load plus the breaker may be shot anyhow
> ------Original Message------
> From: Deems Davis
> Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> To: Rv
> ReplyTo: Rv
> Sent: Sep 23, 2008 3:38 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
>
>
> I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a
> 25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
> say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
> circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
> Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
> trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service
> personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and
> reset the breaker.
> DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
> beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it
> appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/
> 15 amp motors.
>
> Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
> 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
> not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
>
>
> Deems
>
> not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
I guess it's time to break out the Y2K generator. :-). Or, just break
in one night and slip on a 20A, but you have to be prepared to
categorically deny the charges (and have a good alibi) when your
hangar burns down or become a fugitive (I hear Ecuador is nice this
time of year).
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
On Sep 23, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using
> a 25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which
> it say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the
> garage circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A)
> breaker.
> Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the
> compressor trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport
> service personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come
> out and reset the breaker.
> DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
> beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor,
> but it appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools
> all come w/ 15 amp motors.
>
> Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
> 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which
> will not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
>
>
> Deems
>
> not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Well, you can't just change the breaker, as was suggested. You need
to KNOW that the wire is not only of the proper gauge, but not
over a certain length, also. If you have extremely long runs back
to the fuse panel, as some hangars are, you may need to have either
larger wires run, or larger wires AND an increased breaker size, IF
that still works for the overall panel rating and usages. So it's
not just something you can do a quick fix on....it takes someone
who knows the requirements to do it right. Any less and you're
risking yours and other peoples airplanes to fire. In my hangar,
I was routinely tripping my breaker, one circuit that runs the
doors, lights, and everything, when I ran the compressor.
I took care of it a few ways...
First, when I run the door, everything else is off. The startup
current on the door required that.
Later, when I needed the compressor, I was tired of resetting
the breaker all the time. One thing helped a little....letting
the compressor run out of air before you started it. Startups
where the piston has to get moving against high pressure took
more torque. So an empty tank is less likely to trip the
breaker....although that might not be enough.
Ultimately, the permanent solution for me was: I left the
door and lights on the existing circuit. I then pulled some
nice heavy wire....I think 8 or 10ga, and put in 2 new circuits.
A 4-gang outlet back by my workbench...so the compressor would
have a minimum of cord length (which helps....the voltage
drop on the line will cause a higher starting current if you have
long wire runs), and then I put a couple other outlets near
the sides of the plane that were on those new circuits. Now
all of my tools get plugged into the heavier capacity circuit.
So in the end, probably the best way to fix it is to hire an
electrician to pull another circuit into your hangar just for
your tools. In the long run it's a few hundred bucks well spent.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a
> 25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
> say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
> circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
> Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
> trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service
> personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and
> reset the breaker.
> DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
> beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it
> appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/
> 15 amp motors.
>
> Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
> 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
> not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
>
>
> Deems
>
> not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Boy, this discussion really makes us sound like a bunch of sneeky old men..
.. oh, I guess we are!- I have a compressor I bought at Home Depot, can't
remember which one, but it has 3 speeds.- So you could find which speed
you can use without tripping the breaker.- My- hanger has a junction bo
x in the center overhead.- When I openned it up, I found that they had te
rminated all the wires with wire ties that lead to the rest of the hangers
down the line.- So naturally I tied into one of them, and now I have 2 20
amp services.... one for each side of the hanger.-- Don
--- On Tue, 9/23/08, ricksked@embarqmail.com <ricksked@embarqmail.com> wrot
e:
From: ricksked@embarqmail.com <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
Have them replace the breaker with 20 amp, it should be 12-2 wire and plent
y
enough to handle the load plus the breaker may be shot anyhow
------Original Message------
From: Deems Davis
Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Rv
Sent: Sep 23, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been
using a
25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service
personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and
reset the breaker.
DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it
appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/
15 amp motors.
Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
Deems
not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Deams
Do not change the breaker to 20 amp. the wire in hanger is problem 14-2
wire rated gauge. a 20 amp circuit would have a 12-2 wire rated gauge, as
stated by others this could cause a fire or trips from motor starts (higher amp
pulls). Deams your 25 yr old compressor might be the problem. 1) I would drain
& change the compressor oil to lower viscosity (buy @ homedepot or sears).
2) check belt tension. to tight this will cause higher startup amps ( need
amp meter to check) look @ motor plate to find runnning amps. hope this can
help if not recommend electrican or just buy newer compressor.
Dave Ludd
40466 NJ,
In a message dated 9/23/2008 5:40:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
deemsdavis@cox.net writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a
25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service
personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and
reset the breaker.
DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it
appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/
15 amp motors.
Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
Deems
not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
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