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1. 03:18 AM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Bob Leffler)
2. 04:20 AM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Tim Olson)
3. 05:25 AM - Re: New Dynon synthetic vision (Eric Ekberg)
4. 05:54 AM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Deems Davis)
5. 06:06 AM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com)
6. 10:39 AM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Scott Schmidt)
7. 11:18 AM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Deems Davis)
8. 12:06 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (John Cumins)
9. 12:33 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Scott Schmidt)
10. 12:34 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (linn Walters)
11. 12:45 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (linn Walters)
12. 12:54 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Deems Davis)
13. 12:57 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (gary)
14. 01:05 PM - Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles (truflite)
15. 01:57 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
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18. 07:33 PM - Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker (Rick Sked)
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| Subject: | Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Before I was in the aircraft building business, I purchased a small pancake
type of compressor used to build a deck. It's an oil less with only about
6 gal of capacity. I just checked it only draws 10 amps. While it wouldn't
be good for general building, it may be good enough to get you by in the
hangar.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a
25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service
personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and
reset the breaker.
DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it
appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/
15 amp motors.
Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
Deems
not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
That's a good way to go. I didn't mention in my post that I left
my nice high-flowing CH compressor at home because that's where
any hard building would be done, and I got a used Craftsman 20
or 25 gallon for the hangar. It's still bigger (and far far
noisier) than I need for the occasional hangar use. So yeah,
investing in a light duty compressor could be a quick way around
the problem too. Depends on if you plan to bring other tools,
like I bought a drill press, and a few other tools for the hangar
so I wouldn't have to bring mine from home. If you're just in
need of a little air, get the small compresor, but if you're trying
to build a little workshop, just have someone wire the place
the way you want.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> Before I was in the aircraft building business, I purchased a small pancake
> type of compressor used to build a deck. It's an oil less with only about
> 6 gal of capacity. I just checked it only draws 10 amps. While it wouldn't
> be good for general building, it may be good enough to get you by in the
> hangar.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:38 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
>
>
> I'm moving the 'shop' from the garage to the hangar. I've been using a
> 25 yr old Campbell Hausfeld air compressor which has a motor which it
> say's draws 15 amps @ 115VAC . It would frequently trip the garage
> circuit, which I 'patched' by putting in a larger (20A) breaker.
> Well, the electric service to the hangar is 15 amps, and the compressor
> trips the breaker every time it plugged in. The airport service
> personnel are getting annoyed at me calling for them to come out and
> reset the breaker.
> DC electricity was/is a challenge to me, so this AC stuff is way
> beyond my understanding. I looked at Lowes for a new compressor, but it
> appears that most of the ones suitable to run the air tools all come w/
> 15 amp motors.
>
> Anybody got any suggestions ? Can the motor on my old compressor be
> 'fixed' to not trip the breaker, can it be replaced with one which will
> not trip? What are you guys using at the hangar?
>
>
> Deems
>
> not so patiently waiting on my painter...............
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Dynon synthetic vision |
Hmm..."shoe-string development budget" and IFR operations (that is what
synthetic vision is for ...right?). Me no-likey those two together.
Eric
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>wrote:
> I agree wholeheartedly, except possibly on the timing. I've been very
> happy with Dynon's stability and ease of use, although their feature set to
> date has been a little slow, which they are obviously in the process of
> dealing with. As with every new offering in the experimental market that I
> am aware of, don't hold your breath on delivery dates. With possibly a few
> exceptions, these companies often operate on a shoe-string development
> budget and it seems that actually hitting the market with a product takes
> more development (read time) than originally projected. Kind of like
> building a plane. :-)
> Oh, and it's a 7" widescreen display on the larger Dynons, 4" on the
> smaller.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Chris Hukill wrote:
>
> For you builders that have a year or better before you have to commit to an
> avionics system, I suggest that you go to dynonavionics.com and click
> on the upper left "next generation". This looks like a system that will have
> all possible functions, at a reasonable price. I have a Dynon system in my
> RV-8, and it has operated flawlessly. Their policy of free software
> upgrades, and non-obsolescence of older hardware, is now joined with a
> policy of trade-in's for earlier products to customers that want to upgrade.
> This is a company that's big enough that it should be around awhile to
> support your investment, unlike some vendors.
> I don't work for, or have any affiliation with the company, but
> I appreciate a company that supports their customers as well as Dynon,
> without squeezing every last cent from you.
> Tru-trak has also provided an excellent upgrade policy to their customers,
> as I have traded-up my autopilot with them twice. However, for the price of
> a Sorcerer, you can buy a complete 2 (6 Inch) screen, dual AHRS,
> efis system, including engine/systems monitoring, with a full function two
> axis autopilot from Dynon. How refreshing.
>
> Chris Hukill
> finishing all the baggage compartment mods
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Thanks to all who provided suggestions, both on and off-line. My plan is:
1. check/service the old compressor (change oil and re- tension belt)
2. Investigate alternative power options with Airport maintenance. KDVT
is the busiest general aviation airport in the US and is owned and
operated by the City of Phoenix, they have a 3 year waiting list to get
into hangars , and set of rules that would choke a horse, enforced by
annual and periodic random inspections. All of which seems to have
turned the notion of being serice/servant to the public on it ear.
3. Obtain a light duty compressor for hangar use. And move 'Ol Reliable
back home.
Thanks
Deems
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Deems, I spend my days engineering electric motors, so I can spend my
nights building airplanes. I have also spent a bit of my career
engineering air compressors.
A few things you could look at to help solve your problem. Check what
sort of pressure switch your compressor has; the pressure switch may, or
may not have a pressure bleed off built in. This is a device that
releases the residual pressure in the compressor head, not in the tank.
The purpose is to let the motor get a running start, instead of starting
under immediate load. If you compressor 'hisses' when it shuts down,
sorta like air brakes on a semi, then it is most likely already equipped
with this device. You can sometimes also tell by looking for separate
small airline leading to the switch. This is an easy retrofit, and adding
such a switch could solve your problem, maybe.
>From a motor standpoint, the motor could draw as much as seven times the
rated full load amps at start up, in your case we are talking about
105amps, that is a big number!! There are different motor designs
available to ease the starting current, check to see if the motor that is
installed has two capacitors, one start cap (usually black), and a run cap
(usually silver). If you only have one cap, you could change out the
motor for a cap start, cap run type motor. This could also solve the
problem. As was suggested before if you can get 220 voltage, it would
most likely solve the problem all by itself. Just make sure you are
getting two separate legs. Assuming this is a public place, you will most
likely need to get a pro involved.
Keep in mind, I engineer the mechanical parts, this new found electrical
stuff frightens and confuses me. Electricity is just a passing fad, like
carpet, or automobiles.
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
4-Partner Build (Jason Kreidler, Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elsner)
Sheboygan Falls, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
OK, all you EE majors weigh in here.
Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger?
If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then into a female
plug end.
I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps. Blast me if I'm wrong here.
This could be the cheapest solution.
If not, buy an oil less compressor. I run my Sears compressor on 15 amps all the
time.
If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor and just run
an extension cord over to you place.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: "jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com" <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:05:22 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
Deems, I spend my days engineering electric
motors, so I can spend my nights building airplanes. I have also
spent a bit of my career engineering air compressors.
A few things you could look at to help
solve your problem. Check what sort of pressure switch your compressor
has; the pressure switch may, or may not have a pressure bleed off built
in. This is a device that releases the residual pressure in the compressor
head, not in the tank. The purpose is to let the motor get a running
start, instead of starting under immediate load. If you compressor
'hisses' when it shuts down, sorta like air brakes on a semi, then it is
most likely already equipped with this device. You can sometimes
also tell by looking for separate small airline leading to the switch.
This is an easy retrofit, and adding such a switch could solve your
problem, maybe.
>From a motor standpoint, the motor could
draw as much as seven times the rated full load amps at start up, in your
case we are talking about 105amps, that is a big number!! There are
different motor designs available to ease the starting current, check to
see if the motor that is installed has two capacitors, one start cap (usually
black), and a run cap (usually silver). If you only have one cap,
you could change out the motor for a cap start, cap run type motor. This
could also solve the problem. As was suggested before if you can
get 220 voltage, it would most likely solve the problem all by itself.
Just make sure you are getting two separate legs. Assuming
this is a public place, you will most likely need to get a pro involved.
Keep in mind, I engineer the mechanical
parts, this new found electrical stuff frightens and confuses me. Electricity
is just a passing fad, like carpet, or automobiles.
Thanks, Jason Kreidler
4-Partner Build (Jason Kreidler, Tony
Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elsner)
Sheboygan Falls, WI
#40617 Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Well, Thanks to all for the suggestions. I made a trip to the hangar
this am. Jason, I found the compressor is equipped with all of the
features you mentioned (bleed valve & capacitors), I removed the belt
guard, and checked tension which appears 'normal' (?) then removed the
old (black) oil and replaced it with new compressor oil from Lowes, gave
it several turns of the flywheel manually to lubricate the cyls then
plugged it in directly to the outlet vs the extension cord and.........
Viola! it worked!!!!! no tripped circuit ?!?!? I should mention that
there were no other folks out in the adjacent hangars today. I checked
with airport nazis ops about the possibility of changing/modifying the
service........ I think they are still laughing, glad I could make their
day. They told me that there were up to 3 other hangars on the same
circuit, so who knows how long this will work, but it should suffice for
the intermittent needs for final assembly and maint at the hangar
Deems Davis
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> OK, all you EE majors weigh in here.
>
> Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger?
> If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then
> into a female plug end.
>
> I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps. Blast me if I'm
> wrong here.
> This could be the cheapest solution.
>
> If not, buy an oil less compressor. I run my Sears compressor on 15
> amps all the time.
>
> If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor
> and just run an extension cord over to you place.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com" <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:05:22 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
>
>
> Deems, I spend my days engineering electric motors, so I can spend my
> nights building airplanes. I have also spent a bit of my career
> engineering air compressors.
>
> A few things you could look at to help solve your problem. Check what
> sort of pressure switch your compressor has; the pressure switch may,
> or may not have a pressure bleed off built in. This is a device that
> releases the residual pressure in the compressor head, not in the
> tank. The purpose is to let the motor get a running start, instead of
> starting under immediate load. If you compressor 'hisses' when it
> shuts down, sorta like air brakes on a semi, then it is most likely
> already equipped with this device. You can sometimes also tell by
> looking for separate small airline leading to the switch. This is an
> easy retrofit, and adding such a switch could solve your problem, maybe.
>
> From a motor standpoint, the motor could draw as much as seven times
> the rated full load amps at start up, in your case we are talking
> about 105amps, that is a big number!! There are different motor
> designs available to ease the starting current, check to see if the
> motor that is installed has two capacitors, one start cap (usually
> black), and a run cap (usually silver). If you only have one cap, you
> could change out the motor for a cap start, cap run type motor. This
> could also solve the problem. As was suggested before if you can get
> 220 voltage, it would most likely solve the problem all by itself.
> Just make sure you are getting two separate legs. Assuming this is a
> public place, you will most likely need to get a pro involved.
>
> Keep in mind, I engineer the mechanical parts, this new found
> electrical stuff frightens and confuses me. Electricity is just a
> passing fad, like carpet, or automobiles.
>
> Thanks, Jason Kreidler
> 4-Partner Build (Jason Kreidler, Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elsner)
> Sheboygan Falls, WI
> #40617 Finishing
> Do Not Archive
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>
>
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| Subject: | Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Hey Deems
The Nut Tree airport in Northern California is the same way. There
maintenance man is like a little Hitler and will bust your chops on any rule
violation he can see or sniff out.
The hangers are privately or county owned with a set of rules that an
attorney very proud of. And no they do not allow any experimental building
in the hangers. A kit does not constitute a airplane, and it will not
qualify for a hanger, it must be a registered airworthy airplane to qualify
for a hanger. The waiting list is over 4 yrs now. So ya do everything ya
can to keep the hanger ya have.
John
40864 Rubber inprocess.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
Thanks to all who provided suggestions, both on and off-line. My plan is:
1. check/service the old compressor (change oil and re- tension belt)
2. Investigate alternative power options with Airport maintenance. KDVT
is the busiest general aviation airport in the US and is owned and
operated by the City of Phoenix, they have a 3 year waiting list to get
into hangars , and set of rules that would choke a horse, enforced by
annual and periodic random inspections. All of which seems to have
turned the notion of being serice/servant to the public on it ear.
3. Obtain a light duty compressor for hangar use. And move 'Ol Reliable
back home.
Thanks
Deems
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
OK, here is the solution if your fix ever fails.
You just need to install the Rockwell automation device described in the video
below and you will be in great shape.
I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhYd9L_d7w
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:18:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
Well, Thanks to all for the suggestions. I made a trip to the hangar
this am. Jason, I found the compressor is equipped with all of the
features you mentioned (bleed valve & capacitors), I removed the belt
guard, and checked tension which appears 'normal' (?) then removed the
old (black) oil and replaced it with new compressor oil from Lowes, gave
it several turns of the flywheel manually to lubricate the cyls then
plugged it in directly to the outlet vs the extension cord and.........
Viola! it worked!!!!! no tripped circuit ?!?!? I should mention that
there were no other folks out in the adjacent hangars today. I checked
with airport nazis ops about the possibility of changing/modifying the
service........ I think they are still laughing, glad I could make their
day. They told me that there were up to 3 other hangars on the same
circuit, so who knows how long this will work, but it should suffice for
the intermittent needs for final assembly and maint at the hangar
Deems Davis
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> OK, all you EE majors weigh in here.
>
> Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger?
> If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then
> into a female plug end.
>
> I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps. Blast me if I'm
> wrong here.
> This could be the cheapest solution.
>
> If not, buy an oil less compressor. I run my Sears compressor on 15
> amps all the time.
>
> If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor
> and just run an extension cord over to you place.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com" <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:05:22 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
>
>
> Deems, I spend my days engineering electric motors, so I can spend my
> nights building airplanes. I have also spent a bit of my career
> engineering air compressors.
>
> A few things you could look at to help solve your problem. Check what
> sort of pressure switch your compressor has; the pressure switch may,
> or may not have a pressure bleed off built in. This is a device that
> releases the residual pressure in the compressor head, not in the
> tank. The purpose is to let the motor get a running start, instead of
> starting under immediate load. If you compressor 'hisses' when it
> shuts down, sorta like air brakes on a semi, then it is most likely
> already equipped with this device. You can sometimes also tell by
> looking for separate small airline leading to the switch. This is an
> easy retrofit, and adding such a switch could solve your problem, maybe.
>
> From a motor standpoint, the motor could draw as much as seven times
> the rated full load amps at start up, in your case we are talking
> about 105amps, that is a big number!! There are different motor
> designs available to ease the starting current, check to see if the
> motor that is installed has two capacitors, one start cap (usually
> black), and a run cap (usually silver). If you only have one cap, you
> could change out the motor for a cap start, cap run type motor. This
> could also solve the problem. As was suggested before if you can get
> 220 voltage, it would most likely solve the problem all by itself.
> Just make sure you are getting two separate legs. Assuming this is a
> public place, you will most likely need to get a pro involved.
>
> Keep in mind, I engineer the mechanical parts, this new found
> electrical stuff frightens and confuses me. Electricity is just a
> passing fad, like carpet, or automobiles.
>
> Thanks, Jason Kreidler
> 4-Partner Build (Jason Kreidler, Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elsner)
> Sheboygan Falls, WI
> #40617 Finishing
> Do Not Archive
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> OK, all you EE majors weigh in here.
>
> Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger?
> If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then
> into a female plug end.
>
> I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps. Blast me if I'm
> wrong here.
> This could be the cheapest solution.
Well, this can get you hurt. Funny story. Might have been sad. My Dad
had need for higher current to his ham shack for his new linear. He
followed your same reasoning ..... just parallel them. His panel was
the old kind with two fuses (picture 3" long, 1/2" dia) in a block that
plugged into his panel. So, his idea was to wrap a piece of wire around
one end of the block, put the fuses back in and ..... I told him it
wouldn't work that way. Here it comes: "Of course it will, son!!!"
Well, I talked him into wrapping a towel around his hand (gloves would
have been better) but couldn't talk him our of his 'experiment'. The
noise when he plugged that into the panel was like a .45 going off close
by. Really loud in that garage!!!! The inside of the fuse block had
this nice copper finish to it. He still didn't understand what was
wrong with his ohms law logic ..... and there wasn't any. He shorted
the two legs of the 220 together. It's the simple mistakes that you pay
so dearly for.
Even if he had been successful, the wiring would still have been too
small, and could have resulted in fire. So, if you want to play
electrician, get some training first. If you're in a hurry ..... spend
the money on an electrician. You'll possibly save a whole bundle on
hospital bills ..... if you survive. I made my living guiding electrons
around, and the nasty b......s will turn and bite you in a heartbeat. I
just want you folks to be safe.
I'll bet that Rick has seen some pretty stupid stuff with his work .....
maybe he'll chime in.
>
> If not, buy an oil less compressor. I run my Sears compressor on 15
> amps all the time.
It depends on just how far you are from the breaker box too. Buy one
where you know you can return it.
>
> If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor
> and just run an extension cord over to you place.
Again, you might be lucky ..... or you might let the magic smoke out.
Magic smoke will not work exposed to the atmosphere. Your best and
safest route is to get a buddy or electrician that's knowledgeable ....
and has the tools .... such as a meter ..... to help on this project.
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> OK, here is the solution if your fix ever fails.
> You just need to install the Rockwell automation device described in
> the video below and you will be in great shape.
> I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhYd9L_d7w
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
Now, that's a hoot!!! Thanks for posting that ... I needed a good belly
laugh.
Wish I knew how to suck the youtube stuff into my archive of movies.
Linn
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Ok I'm clear on all of that..... except for the - differential gurggle
spring ????
Deems ;-)
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> OK, here is the solution if your fix ever fails.
> You just need to install the Rockwell automation device described in
> the video below and you will be in great shape.
> I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhYd9L_d7w
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:18:02 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
>
> <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>>
>
> Well, Thanks to all for the suggestions. I made a trip to the hangar
> this am. Jason, I found the compressor is equipped with all of the
> features you mentioned (bleed valve & capacitors), I removed the belt
> guard, and checked tension which appears 'normal' (?) then removed the
> old (black) oil and replaced it with new compressor oil from Lowes, gave
> it several turns of the flywheel manually to lubricate the cyls then
> plugged it in directly to the outlet vs the extension cord and.........
> Viola! it worked!!!!! no tripped circuit ?!?!? I should mention that
> there were no other folks out in the adjacent hangars today. I checked
> with airport nazis ops about the possibility of changing/modifying the
> service........ I think they are still laughing, glad I could make their
> day. They told me that there were up to 3 other hangars on the same
> circuit, so who knows how long this will work, but it should suffice for
> the intermittent needs for final assembly and maint at the hangar
>
>
> Deems Davis
>
>
> do not archive
>
> Scott Schmidt wrote:
> > OK, all you EE majors weigh in here.
> >
> > Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger?
> > If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then
> > into a female plug end.
> >
> > I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps. Blast me if I'm
> > wrong here.
> > This could be the cheapest solution.
> >
> > If not, buy an oil less compressor. I run my Sears compressor on 15
> > amps all the time.
> >
> > If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor
> > and just run an extension cord over to you place.
> >
> > Scott Schmidt
> > scottmschmidt@yahoo.com <mailto:scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com
> <mailto:jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>"
> <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com <mailto:jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>>
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:05:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
> >
> >
> > Deems, I spend my days engineering electric motors, so I can spend my
> > nights building airplanes. I have also spent a bit of my career
> > engineering air compressors.
> >
> > A few things you could look at to help solve your problem. Check what
> > sort of pressure switch your compressor has; the pressure switch may,
> > or may not have a pressure bleed off built in. This is a device that
> > releases the residual pressure in the compressor head, not in the
> > tank. The purpose is to let the motor get a running start, instead of
> > starting under immediate load. If you compressor 'hisses' when it
> > shuts down, sorta like air brakes on a semi, then it is most likely
> > already equipped with this device. You can sometimes also tell by
> > looking for separate small airline leading to the switch. This is an
> > easy retrofit, and adding such a switch could solve your problem, maybe.
> >
> > From a motor standpoint, the motor could draw as much as seven times
> > the rated full load amps at start up, in your case we are talking
> > about 105amps, that is a big number!! There are different motor
> > designs available to ease the starting current, check to see if the
> > motor that is installed has two capacitors, one start cap (usually
> > black), and a run cap (usually silver). If you only have one cap, you
> > could change out the motor for a cap start, cap run type motor. This
> > could also solve the problem. As was suggested before if you can get
> > 220 voltage, it would most likely solve the problem all by itself.
> > Just make sure you are getting two separate legs. Assuming this is a
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Time to buy a couple of 2000 watt Honda generators and when you are done you
can sell them to all those retired folks in the 5th wheels that need them.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
Well, Thanks to all for the suggestions. I made a trip to the hangar
this am. Jason, I found the compressor is equipped with all of the
features you mentioned (bleed valve & capacitors), I removed the belt
guard, and checked tension which appears 'normal' (?) then removed the
old (black) oil and replaced it with new compressor oil from Lowes, gave
it several turns of the flywheel manually to lubricate the cyls then
plugged it in directly to the outlet vs the extension cord and.........
Viola! it worked!!!!! no tripped circuit ?!?!? I should mention that
there were no other folks out in the adjacent hangars today. I checked
with airport nazis ops about the possibility of changing/modifying the
service........ I think they are still laughing, glad I could make their
day. They told me that there were up to 3 other hangars on the same
circuit, so who knows how long this will work, but it should suffice for
the intermittent needs for final assembly and maint at the hangar
Deems Davis
do not archive
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> OK, all you EE majors weigh in here.
>
> Do you know if you have more than one circuit in your hanger?
> If so, buy a couple of plugs and wire them together in parallel, then
> into a female plug end.
>
> I think this should give you 120 volts and 30 amps. Blast me if I'm
> wrong here.
> This could be the cheapest solution.
>
> If not, buy an oil less compressor. I run my Sears compressor on 15
> amps all the time.
>
> If you don't have two circuits steal one from the next door neighbor
> and just run an extension cord over to you place.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com" <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:05:22 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
>
>
> Deems, I spend my days engineering electric motors, so I can spend my
> nights building airplanes. I have also spent a bit of my career
> engineering air compressors.
>
> A few things you could look at to help solve your problem. Check what
> sort of pressure switch your compressor has; the pressure switch may,
> or may not have a pressure bleed off built in. This is a device that
> releases the residual pressure in the compressor head, not in the
> tank. The purpose is to let the motor get a running start, instead of
> starting under immediate load. If you compressor 'hisses' when it
> shuts down, sorta like air brakes on a semi, then it is most likely
> already equipped with this device. You can sometimes also tell by
> looking for separate small airline leading to the switch. This is an
> easy retrofit, and adding such a switch could solve your problem, maybe.
>
> From a motor standpoint, the motor could draw as much as seven times
> the rated full load amps at start up, in your case we are talking
> about 105amps, that is a big number!! There are different motor
> designs available to ease the starting current, check to see if the
> motor that is installed has two capacitors, one start cap (usually
> black), and a run cap (usually silver). If you only have one cap, you
> could change out the motor for a cap start, cap run type motor. This
> could also solve the problem. As was suggested before if you can get
> 220 voltage, it would most likely solve the problem all by itself.
> Just make sure you are getting two separate legs. Assuming this is a
> public place, you will most likely need to get a pro involved.
>
> Keep in mind, I engineer the mechanical parts, this new found
> electrical stuff frightens and confuses me. Electricity is just a
> passing fad, like carpet, or automobiles.
>
> Thanks, Jason Kreidler
> 4-Partner Build (Jason Kreidler, Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elsner)
> Sheboygan Falls, WI
> #40617 Finishing
> Do Not Archive
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles |
I have been developing these handles and now have a prototype ready to be manufactured.
They will be precision machined and will replace the existing handle
on the RV-10.
If you are interested in these handles, here is what has to be done. The new handle
operates the lock exactly like the factory handle. I will need your factory
lock mechanisms as parts will be modified to fit the new handle. You can
send me the locks built up or as a kit of parts. You will receive the locks
back as a built assembly. Again, the lock will work exactly as the factory set
up.
Below is a link to some pictures of the prototype as well as a picture of what
I need from you. NOTE: I do not need the rack gears, but I do need the pinion.
http://davidnellis.myphotoalbum.com/
Click on "Door Handles" for the pics.
The price is $200.00 for two handle ready to install in your aircraft plus $10.00
for shipping.
Thanks for looking,
Dave Nellis
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5993#205993
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| Subject: | Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
It's like a 3/4" pygmy flange.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
Ok I'm clear on all of that..... except for the - differential gurggle
spring ????
Deems ;-)
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> OK, here is the solution if your fix ever fails.
> You just need to install the Rockwell automation device described in
> the video below and you will be in great shape.
> I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhYd9L_d7w
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
I'm just going put the word "COBBLED on my RV10
Tom Ganster 40778
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on
inte
One needs to plan to preempt the plaintiffs lawyer before getting to court.
There are arrangements that make one a very distasteful fish for the shark.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on
inte
--> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
David McNeill wrote:
>
> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
>
Actually, the answer is below .....
"They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into the
aircraft."
In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering the
aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my Pitts
(don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was on the
engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door .... behind the
pilots head. There was discussion about it, but they accepted it. Being on
the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I think it skirts
the intent. When you (the collective 'you') do things like this, where the
subject isn't specifically defined (the position of the label) ponder how
you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside down' so it can be read
getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where mine
will go, thanks to Greg.
Linn
do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn
> Walters
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
> on inte
>
> --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> Don McDonald wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
>> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on
>> each door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards
>> about the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone
>> else interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
>> haven't had time to do the conversion....
>>
>>
> That's OK Don .... thanks to Tim it's a piece of cake to do it on my
end!!!!
> Send more huge pictures.
> BTW, I'm interested.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>> it's one he made for my cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
>> Don
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
>> on inte
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>>
>> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>>
>> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
>> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I
checked
>> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me
>> the
>>
> wording
>
>> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The
>> great
>>
> thing I found
>
>> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it
>> has
>>
> to be at
>
>> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
>> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still
>> had
>>
> the
>
>> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved
>> in it
>>
> and
>
>> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached
>> some
>>
> pictures on
>
>> what I did.
>>
>> Greg Hale
>> N210KH
>>
>> --------
>> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>> --
>>
>>
> Don McDonald wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
>> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on
>> each door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards
>> about the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone
>> else interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
>> haven't had time to do the conversion.... it's one he made for my
>> cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
>> Don
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
>> on inte
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>>
>> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>>
>> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
>> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I
checked
>> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me
>> the
>>
> wording
>
>> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The
>> great
>>
> thing I found
>
>> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it
>> has
>>
> to be at
>
>> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
>> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still
>> had
>>
> the
>
>> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved
>> in it
>>
> and
>
>> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached
>> some
>>
> pictures on
>
>> what I did.
>>
>> Greg Hale
>> N210KH
>>
>> --------
>> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
>
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
6:29 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte |
OK Tom...now that you remember that "term"
LOL...I had the wonderful experience of meeting that reporter last weekend...I
have a friend who just retired as the News Director for the station who aired
that piece (that's how they contacted me) ...Had a few glasses wine, and decided
to "speak" with him a bit...seemed this educated fella didn't even know that
shoes were made & repaired by "Cobblers" in years gone by, matter of fact, since
he didn't know who I was AT FIRST...I told him I saw his story and I was
unsure of the word "Cobbled" He could not provide a definition..then I came clean
and we had an interesting conversation...jeeezzz...all I can say is there
is a high level of ignorance of general aviation or aviation in general with the
media...and can I say that I had at least 8 phone calls since that incident
that said..."Hi Rick, that wasn't you that crashed was it???" WTF....I answered
the phone "Hi Perini Safety this is Rick", Not "Heavens Gate how may I direct
your call?"
So it spills over to the public as well....FWIW...I adjusted at least 20 claims
in 4 years that were the result of cars and one HUGE tour bus running into houses....not
one airplane, guess how many of the vehicle vs. houses made it to
the local news... ZERO...the bus had a small piece on the 11 O'clock but only
because the driver was drunk...
Rick Sked
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Ganster" <tganster@mwwb.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:55:13 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on inte
I'm just going put the word "COBBLED on my RV10
Tom Ganster 40778
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on
inte
One needs to plan to preempt the plaintiffs lawyer before getting to court.
There are arrangements that make one a very distasteful fish for the shark.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required on
inte
--> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
David McNeill wrote:
>
> Why on the door? Mine is across the baggage aft bulkhead.
>
Actually, the answer is below .....
"They told me the wording has to be at all passenger entrances into the
aircraft."
In actuality, I think it says "must be visible to persons entering the
aircraft" ..... I didn't look it up. When the NTSB looked at my Pitts
(don't ask ... long story)the only 'experimental' visible was on the
engraved data plate attached to the baggage compartment door .... behind the
pilots head. There was discussion about it, but they accepted it. Being on
the baggage bulkhead may meet the letter of the law, but I think it skirts
the intent. When you (the collective 'you') do things like this, where the
subject isn't specifically defined (the position of the label) ponder how
you'd answer the question from a lawyer.
Putting the "experimental" label on the door 'upside down' so it can be read
getting into the plane makes it hard to miss, and is probably where mine
will go, thanks to Greg.
Linn
do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn
> Walters
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
> on inte
>
> --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> Don McDonald wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
>> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on
>> each door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards
>> about the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone
>> else interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
>> haven't had time to do the conversion....
>>
>>
> That's OK Don .... thanks to Tim it's a piece of cake to do it on my
end!!!!
> Send more huge pictures.
> BTW, I'm interested.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>> it's one he made for my cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
>> Don
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
>> on inte
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>>
>> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>>
>> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
>> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I
checked
>> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me
>> the
>>
> wording
>
>> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The
>> great
>>
> thing I found
>
>> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it
>> has
>>
> to be at
>
>> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
>> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still
>> had
>>
> the
>
>> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved
>> in it
>>
> and
>
>> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached
>> some
>>
> pictures on
>
>> what I did.
>>
>> Greg Hale
>> N210KH
>>
>> --------
>> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>> --
>>
>>
> Don McDonald wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the great idea. I have a friend who does engraving. Was
>> not looking forward to sticking that god awful looking sticker on
>> each door. I'll have him make up some nice looking aluminum pacards
>> about the same size you made. He can do them in most colors. Anyone
>> else interested, let me know. I attached one of my HUGE pics, sorry,
>> haven't had time to do the conversion.... it's one he made for my
>> cabin heat, emerg brake and alt air.
>> Don
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/22/08, greghale /<ghale5224@aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: greghale <ghale5224@aol.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Standards for word "Experimental" required
>> on inte
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:58 PM
>>
>> <ghale5224@aol.com>
>>
>> Since I was doing a custom interior, I didn't really want to use the
>> standard "Experimental" sticker or the size of the letters. I
checked
>> with EAA about the FAR and what is really required. They told me
>> the
>>
> wording
>
>> has to be at all passenger entrances into the aircraft. The
>> great
>>
> thing I found
>
>> out was that the only size requirement for the EXERIMENTAL is it
>> has
>>
> to be at
>
>> least 2" tall and not taller than 6". This was perfect. I used my
>> computer and condensed the wording down to a 6" length but still
>> had
>>
> the
>
>> 2" height. A wood placard was made with the lettering engraved
>> in it
>>
> and
>
>> will be inset into the upper interior door panel. I attached
>> some
>>
> pictures on
>
>> what I did.
>>
>> Greg Hale
>> N210KH
>>
>> --------
>> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
>> www.nwacaptain.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5624#205624
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_2053_218.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/door_placard_192.jpg
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker |
Hey!!! Short Australian bush dwelling flange...not Pygmy...or is that an Aborigine
flange?
Rick Sked
40185
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----- Original Message -----
From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:56:34 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
It's like a 3/4" pygmy flange.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air compressor tripping circuit breaker
Ok I'm clear on all of that..... except for the - differential gurggle
spring ????
Deems ;-)
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> OK, here is the solution if your fix ever fails.
> You just need to install the Rockwell automation device described in
> the video below and you will be in great shape.
> I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuhYd9L_d7w
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
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