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1. 06:13 AM - Hangars (Fred Williams, M.D.)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: Hangars (David McNeill)
3. 06:59 AM - Re: Hangars (John Lenhardt)
4. 09:30 AM - De-icing Prop (Im7shannon@AOL.COM)
5. 09:49 AM - Re: Hangars (Robin Marks)
6. 10:27 AM - Re: Hangars (Kelly McMullen)
7. 08:43 PM - Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles (truflite)
8. 08:51 PM - Botton Wing Skins (Wayne Hadath)
9. 09:42 PM - Re: Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles (Don McDonald)
10. 10:26 PM - Re: Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles (Chris and Susie)
11. 10:45 PM - Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles (truflite)
12. 10:47 PM - Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles (truflite)
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Guys;
I've only been flying for four years now, but I have never ever heard
anyone say that we have too many hangars and we can't rent them all
out. I live in a town of 30 thousand and we have a 20 person waiting
list. All the EAA newsletters and publications are always concerned
about the meager growth of general aviation. Have they ever considered
a campaign to work with the local airports to have reasonable rules and
make it easy to build more hangars? It seems to me like the demand is
there, but who wants to invest in a 100K + airplane, put several years
of work in it and then ....... well you can tie it down on the ramp for
$75 /month. Seems like a better way to support general aviation would
be to make a void of hangars that need to be filled. Everyone would
benefit.
Anybody on the list have any pull with the EAA?
Just my 2 cents.
Dr Fred.
DAR visit completed and signed off. I now "officially" have an airplane.
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The problems are the local municipalities. A few years ago I offered to
build some T hangars at my local airport where the waiting list is 8 years+.
The response was OK but after 25 or 35 years the hangars become city
property. I had no intention of making an investment only to have the city
confiscate it. My residual assets are for my heirs. Bureaucrats get greedy
so let the FAA and city fund the hangars. Besides, when the FAA funds are
involved, the rates are lower than market for equivalent space.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Williams,
M.D.
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:13 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Hangars
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Guys;
I've only been flying for four years now, but I have never ever heard anyone
say that we have too many hangars and we can't rent them all out. I live in
a town of 30 thousand and we have a 20 person waiting list. All the EAA
newsletters and publications are always concerned about the meager growth of
general aviation. Have they ever considered a campaign to work with the
local airports to have reasonable rules and make it easy to build more
hangars? It seems to me like the demand is there, but who wants to invest
in a 100K + airplane, put several years of work in it and then ....... well
you can tie it down on the ramp for
$75 /month. Seems like a better way to support general aviation would
be to make a void of hangars that need to be filled. Everyone would
benefit.
Anybody on the list have any pull with the EAA?
Just my 2 cents.
Dr Fred.
DAR visit completed and signed off. I now "officially" have an airplane.
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And that's if the airport isn't closed to build a mall.
If FAA money is involved, the airport is restricted to remaining an airport
or the money has to be repaid. I guess the municipalities don't want money
that ties their hands.
John
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hangars
> The problems are the local municipalities. A few years ago I offered to
> build some T hangars at my local airport where the waiting list is 8
> years+.
> The response was OK but after 25 or 35 years the hangars become city
> property. I had no intention of making an investment only to have the city
> confiscate it. My residual assets are for my heirs. Bureaucrats get greedy
> so let the FAA and city fund the hangars. Besides, when the FAA funds are
> involved, the rates are lower than market for equivalent space.
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Hello, I have a flywheel and contactors for a hot prop setup from IO540
C4B5, I need a plain flywheel without the contactor rings on it for my plane, so
if anyone is planning or think you might want to add a hot prop in the future
wanna trade flywheels? Contact me offlist im7shannon@aol.com
Thanks
Kevin Shannon
HRII N450KS
55 hours flying
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"If FAA money is involved, the airport is restricted to remaining an
airport"
Tell that to Megs Field and their hangar owners.
I own 3 hangars, 2 NICE T-hangars and a 50x50. The T's originally sold
for $6,000, on a 25 year lease. They now sell for $70,000 and have 8
years left on the lease. When the lease is up the city will either take
back the hangars or will renegotiate the lease to an estimated
$700-1,000/month. What's the new saying..."Thanks But No Thanks..."
The expiring lease drove me to purchase the 50x50 which lists for twice
the average US home selling price if you can find someone willing to
sell. I purchased mine at an estate auction. That is of course
pre-financial meltdown dollars. :-) The only upside is 18 years
remaining on that lease.
In typical city thinking some of the hangars are sliding down an
incline. The city has accessed the hangar owners big bucks to stabilize
THEIR hillside so further damage does not happen to their hangars. First
they build the hangars on unstable ground, then they charge you to fix
their mistake then they take the hangars away.
That being said I LOVE my hangars....
Robin
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Lenhardt
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hangars
And that's if the airport isn't closed to build a mall.
If FAA money is involved, the airport is restricted to remaining an
airport
or the money has to be repaid. I guess the municipalities don't want
money
that ties their hands.
John
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hangars
> The problems are the local municipalities. A few years ago I offered
to
> build some T hangars at my local airport where the waiting list is 8
> years+.
> The response was OK but after 25 or 35 years the hangars become city
> property. I had no intention of making an investment only to have the
city
> confiscate it. My residual assets are for my heirs. Bureaucrats get
greedy
> so let the FAA and city fund the hangars. Besides, when the FAA funds
are
> involved, the rates are lower than market for equivalent space.
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FAA will not fund hangars or shade spaces, only ramp space. Chandler
did a deal for 40 year leases, then they get the structures, which is
still a rotten deal.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:58 AM, John Lenhardt <av8or@cox.net> wrote:
>
> And that's if the airport isn't closed to build a mall.
>
> If FAA money is involved, the airport is restricted to remaining an airport
> or the money has to be repaid. I guess the municipalities don't want money
> that ties their hands.
>
> John
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:32 AM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hangars
>
>> The problems are the local municipalities. A few years ago I offered to
>> build some T hangars at my local airport where the waiting list is 8
>> years+.
>> The response was OK but after 25 or 35 years the hangars become city
>> property. I had no intention of making an investment only to have the city
>> confiscate it. My residual assets are for my heirs. Bureaucrats get greedy
>> so let the FAA and city fund the hangars. Besides, when the FAA funds are
>> involved, the rates are lower than market for equivalent space.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles |
I did some shopping today and as a result, I can lower the price to $175.00 for
the pair, mated to your lock mechanism.
Dave
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David Nellis
7A Slider
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| Subject: | Botton Wing Skins |
I anybody who has installed the bottom wing skin will agree it is not one of
the more pleasant or easiest job in the construction of an aluminum
aircraft. The RV 10 is no exception and the task is fraught with opportunity
to make the unsightly blemishes. At least for me the stiffener was the area
of greatest difficulty when I did the right wing. On the left wing I back
riveted the stiffener. This made the job of riveting the bottom skin much
easier and quicker. For those of you who have not reached this step yet you
might want to consider this method. Also remember that the spar line will
have to be trimmed about 1/16 because it is too wide or you will get
pillowing or oil canning. At least it was on my kit.
Wayne
F1 Rocket (280 hours)
Checked by AVG.
6:29 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles |
Ok, I'm game.- Can you spell out for us exactly what we need to send to y
ou, and where to send it. Also what the turnaround time might be???- Do y
ou market other products?- Have you seen the shoulder harness bracket and
headset bracket I have offered for the RV10?
Thanks, Don McDonald
--- On Thu, 9/25/08, truflite <davidnellis691@comcast.net> wrote:
From: truflite <davidnellis691@comcast.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles
<davidnellis691@comcast.net>
I did some shopping today and as a result, I can lower the price to $175.00
for
the pair, mated to your lock mechanism.
Dave
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David Nellis
7A Slider
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 6239#206239
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| Subject: | Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles |
David I looked at the pics and was trying to work out the advantage of your
lock? Is it a visual thing only?
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "truflite" <davidnellis691@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles
>
> I did some shopping today and as a result, I can lower the price to
> $175.00 for the pair, mated to your lock mechanism.
>
> Dave
>
> --------
> David Nellis
> 7A Slider
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 6239#206239
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles |
Pictures are available at:
http://davidnellis.myphotoalbum.com/ Click on door handles. There are two pics of the prototype. The third pic shows what I need to have from you, minus the racks. I will need the pinion gear. Basically, I need the entire lock mechanism for both doors, either in parts or built up. You will receive the locks back built up and ready to install.
Send the locks and $175.00 plus $10.00 shipping to
David Nellis
46293 Jasmine Court
Chesterfield Township, MI 48047
(586)329-3931
I need to have at least 10 sets ordered to get this price. Turnaround time should
be about 1 month or slightly less. If I get less orders than 10, I will return
your check, no questions or fees.
I have not seen your brackets, but I would be interested in seeing them.
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David Nellis
7A Slider
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| Subject: | Re: Aftermarket Aluminum Inside Door Handles |
Chris,
This is in response to few builders that do not like the simplistic look of the
door handles. My handles are made for aesthetic or cosmetic reasons. They will
function with the lock the same as the factory setup.
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David Nellis
7A Slider
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