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Thu 10/02/08


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:34 AM - Re: Door warning switch (orchidman)
     2. 06:33 AM - Towbars (David C. Watterson)
     3. 06:33 AM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu (Jesse Saint)
     4. 07:38 AM - Re: Lightspeed Zulu (pascal)
     5. 07:45 AM - Re: Door warning switch (Lenny Iszak)
     6. 07:45 AM - Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets (Steve Stella)
     7. 07:46 AM - Re: Door ajar warning system (Vernon Smith)
     8. 08:02 AM - Re: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets (Perry, Phil)
     9. 08:10 AM - Re: Door warning switch (Vernon Smith)
    10. 08:10 AM - Re: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets (Deems Davis)
    11. 08:22 AM - Re: Door ajar warning system (John Gonzalez)
    12. 08:29 AM - Re: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets (Steve Stella)
    13. 02:49 PM - Re: Slick mag update SB2-08A and SB3-08A (Rhonda Bewley)
    14. 05:48 PM - Re: Towbars (Rene)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:34:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door warning switch
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    I'd be interested in seeing your circuit. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7124#207124


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    Time: 06:33:03 AM PST US
    From: "David C. Watterson" <dcw@dddirectories.com>
    Subject: Towbars
    Does anyone us a power tow bar for their RV10 and what brand are you using? I hanger in a outdoor T-hanger and have to push back off a grass field. My back is screaming for help. N2733K


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    Time: 06:33:58 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Lightspeed Zulu
    Pascal, The group buy is moving forward now. Please let me know if you still want the headsets. I would need a check within a week or so. GOD BLESS! Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Sep 16, 2008, at 12:07 AM, pascal wrote: > I'll be doing a demo of the Zulu at Aircraft Spruce on the 27th. > What do you estimate will be the price? I "may" be interested. > Thanks! > Pascal > > From: Jesse Saint > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 8:17 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu > > If anybody is considering purchasing a Lightspeed Zulu (or any > Lightspeed product) in the near future, I am putting a group-buy > together. Contact me off-list if you are interested. > > do not archive > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > >


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    Time: 07:38:42 AM PST US
    From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
    Subject: Re: Lightspeed Zulu
    Jesse; Thanks for the follow-up. I did test them at Aircraft Spruce and was quite impressed but for now I'll stick with the 3G's I have and hold off on the Zulu. Great price but I'm short of funds after getting the Finish kit this week. Thanks! Get my check yet for the floscan? Thanks! Pascal From: Jesse Saint Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu Pascal, The group buy is moving forward now. Please let me know if you still want the headsets. I would need a check within a week or so. GOD BLESS! Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Sep 16, 2008, at 12:07 AM, pascal wrote: I'll be doing a demo of the Zulu at Aircraft Spruce on the 27th. What do you estimate will be the price? I "may" be interested. Thanks! Pascal From: Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 8:17 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed Zulu If anybody is considering purchasing a Lightspeed Zulu (or any Lightspeed product) in the near future, I am putting a group-buy together. Contact me off-list if you are interested. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution


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    Time: 07:45:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door warning switch
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Greg, Brilliant idea! Yet another one I'll have to copy from you :) Lenny Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7140#207140


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    Time: 07:45:49 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Stella" <sstella@incisaledge.com>
    Subject: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets
    Can any one tell me the reason the plans on page 9-15 call for LP4-3 pop rivets to attach anchor brackets instead of dimpling and using 426AD4-4 flush rivets. Am I missing something? Steve Stella #40654 Emp. Do not archive


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    Time: 07:46:34 AM PST US
    From: Vernon Smith <planesmith@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Door ajar warning system
    Hi John=2C Van's calls it a "warning light kit" the part number is "10 door lock syste m". Here's a link: http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident =1222958547-2-327&action=search Vern Smith (#324) > From: indigoonlatigo@msn.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV10- List: Door ajar warning system> Date: Wed=2C 1 Oct 2008 19:02:32 -0700> > - Does any one know the vans product number or where to look for this item i n their catalog or web site. A search revealed nothing.> > Thanks=2C> > JOh =============> > > _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC=2C the Web=2C and your mobile phone with Windows Live.


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    Time: 08:02:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    Yeah, it doesn't make much sense. Most people don't rivet them, but they actually use screws and locknuts. Apparently it's a b*#%h to attach the trim cable if they're riveted. I bought the ones from iflyrv10.com and I'm countersinking the back side of them. Then dimpling the door to sit inside the countersinks. At attaching with structural #8 screws. They'll be flush and supposedly it makes the job mush easier when you're rigging the trim cables. Phil ________________________________ From: Steve Stella [mailto:sstella@incisaledge.com] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: RV10-List: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets Can any one tell me the reason the plans on page 9-15 call for LP4-3 pop rivets to attach anchor brackets instead of dimpling and using 426AD4-4 flush rivets. Am I missing something? Steve Stella #40654 Emp. Do not archive


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    Time: 08:10:13 AM PST US
    From: Vernon Smith <planesmith@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Door warning switch
    Nice simple idea. If I'm following you correctly. Failure modes would be as follows: If a magnetic switch stick closed it will show the door as not latched. Whi ch is not a bad failure mode. If the switch fails in the open position the LED will not light up and woul d indicate the door is latched. This failure could be detected by adding a "check door ajar lights are on" to the preflight check list with the power applied and the doors open. Double check the current rating of the switches compared to the current dra w of the LEDs. As a side thought=2C I also talked to a builder from Canada at the Arlingto n Flyin that used micro-switches that were activated by the door rod as it pushed through the frame. Vern Smith (#324) > Subject: RV10-List: Door warning switch> From: ghale5224@aol.com> Date: W ed=2C 1 Oct 2008 13:09:50 -0700> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> > --> RV10-Li st message posted by: "greghale" <ghale5224@aol.com>> > The door warning di agram Vans has uses a normally open switch to activate a relay. What happen s if the relay doesn't work? I decided to take the relay out of the circuit . I checked with Mouser and found they sell both the normally open and norm ally closed switch. I purchase 4 normally closed magnetic switches from Mou ser part number 540-MP201702. These are just like the magnetic switch Vans sells but is normally closed when the magnet is pulled away. With this swit ch I am able to eliminate the relay in the circuit. If any switch senses th e magnet in the door latch moving away from the switch=2C a ground is suppl ied to the warning light and lights it up. Any thoughts on my idea. I am us ing LED annunciator lights which require very little current.> > Mouser on- line catalog page 1790 http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R= MP201702virtualkey54010000virtualkey540-MP201702> > Greg...> > --------> Gr eg Hale rv10 -- N210KH> www.nwacaptain.com> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7067#207067> > > > ======> > > _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people=2C information=2C and fun that are part of your life.


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    Time: 08:10:13 AM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets
    I suspect it's because, many have found GREAT difficulty in attaching the cover plates to the elevator WITH the cable anchors attached to them. Many are opting for after market anchor cables (CNC machined) and attaching then with AN hardware. Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ Steve Stella wrote: > > Can any one tell me the reason the plans on page 9-15 call for LP4-3 > pop rivets to attach anchor brackets instead of dimpling and using > 426AD4-4 flush rivets. Am I missing something? > > > > > > Steve Stella > > #40654 Emp. > > > > * > *


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    Time: 08:22:03 AM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Door ajar warning system
    Thanks=2C exactly what I was looking for. JOhn Do Not Archive From: planesmith@hotmail.comTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV10-Li st: Door ajar warning systemDate: Thu=2C 2 Oct 2008 08:46:21 -0600 Hi John=2C Van's calls it a "warning light kit" the part number is "10 door lock system". Here's a link: http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog. cgi?ident=1222958547-2-327&action=search Vern Smith (#324) > From: indigoonlatigo@msn.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV10- List: Door ajar warning system> Date: Wed=2C 1 Oct 2008 19:02:32 -0700> > - Does any one know the vans product number or where to look for this item i n their catalog or web site. A search revealed nothing.> > Thanks=2C> > JOh n G. 409 Do Not arch================> > > Stay up to date on your PC=2C the Web=2C and yournkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/ 01/' target='_new'>See Now


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    Time: 08:29:26 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Stella" <sstella@incisaledge.com>
    Subject: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets
    I bought the ones from Rivet head and I countersunk them and dimpled the plate but riveted them with flush rivets hopefully I don't have any problems. Steve _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets Yeah, it doesn't make much sense. Most people don't rivet them, but they actually use screws and locknuts. Apparently it's a b*#%h to attach the trim cable if they're riveted. I bought the ones from iflyrv10.com and I'm countersinking the back side of them. Then dimpling the door to sit inside the countersinks. At attaching with structural #8 screws. They'll be flush and supposedly it makes the job mush easier when you're rigging the trim cables. Phil _____ From: Steve Stella [mailto:sstella@incisaledge.com] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: RV10-List: Trim Cable Anchor Bracket Rivets Can any one tell me the reason the plans on page 9-15 call for LP4-3 pop rivets to attach anchor brackets instead of dimpling and using 426AD4-4 flush rivets. Am I missing something? Steve Stella #40654 Emp. Do not archive href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 02:49:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Slick mag update SB2-08A and SB3-08A
    From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com>
    Unfortunately, I have been told that Unison (now owned by Champion - well the mags/harness lines anyway) will not honor a warranty/return on new mags unless the cam/brushes are found to have wear at the inspection intervals outlined in the SB. I also don't believe they will cover any labor. If it were me I wouldn't wait, especially with Champion picking up the product lines. I think the delay on the repair kit may end up being significant. Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick mag update SB2-08A and SB3-08A Purchased brand new Slicks about three months ago from Spruce. Installed them on the engine but not run yet. What would you do, send them back for refund then repurchase? What? Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Slick mag update SB2-08A and SB3-08A <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> > > My understanding is that the kits are on back order due to > "overwhelming" response. Go figure. Another option would be to purchase > the brushes and cams through a shop like Quality Aircraft Accessories > (918) 835-6948. Quality will also do the labor for $75/mag, if new/low > time. If more than 100 hours, I think they are charging a little bit > more. > > Best, > > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:32 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick mag update SB2-08A and SB3-08A > > > I'm subject to the bulletin and I want to get the kit. I've been trying > > to reach Unison on the phone but get no answer or call back. I've > searched the site and come up empty handed. > > I have a Lycoming YIO-540. > > Can anyone point me to a contact or URL where I can go about getting the > > kit? > > Thanks. > > Tim Olson wrote: >> >> Unison Revises Slick Magneto Service Bulletin; Kits Available >> Unison Industries has revised service bulletins on its Slick magnetos >> and is currently shipping kits to enable compliance with the revised >> SBs. Service bulletins SB2-08A and SB3-08A are revisions of earlier >> bulletins. For affected Slick- and LASAR-brand magnetos (serial >> numbers from 0610XXXX to 0804XXXX), installing the kits will >> constitute a terminating action for the SBs. Others that might be >> affected are magnetos that have had their cam (or the cam as part of >> the contact point assembly kit) replaced with products shipped between > >> October 1, 2006, and May 11, 2008. Unison is recommending replacing >> the entire contact point assembly and distributor block and gear >> assemblies. Service Bulletin SB3-08A affects magnetos with serial >> numbers from 0409XXXX to 08080453, and/or magnetos that have had the >> carbon brush or distributor block replaced with products shipped >> between September 1, 2004, and August 14, 2008. For a limited time, >> the company is making the kits available at reduced prices. Any Slick >> or LASAR magnetos manufactured after August 15, 2008, are not affected > >> by the SBs. For more information, go to > http://www.unisonindustries.com/ >> >> https://unisonpubs.com/docs/F-1100-SB3-08A.pdf >> >> > > >


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    Time: 05:48:37 PM PST US
    From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Towbars
    Here is the one I bought. Works great...... http://www.powertow.com/12V.html Rene' 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David C. Watterson Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:34 AM Subject: RV10-List: Towbars <dcw@dddirectories.com> Does anyone us a power tow bar for their RV10 and what brand are you using? I hanger in a outdoor T-hanger and have to push back off a grass field. My back is screaming for help. N2733K




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