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1. 05:51 AM - Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION (johngoodman)
2. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION (Dave Bowman)
3. 12:30 PM - Re: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION (DLIUDVINAITIS@aol.com)
4. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION (McGANN, Ron)
5. 03:18 PM - Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (MauleDriver)
6. 04:34 PM - Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (Don McDonald)
7. 07:03 PM - Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (MauleDriver)
8. 07:26 PM - Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (Bill DeRouchey)
9. 09:24 PM - Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (Ben Westfall)
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Subject: | Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION |
Don,
Count me in for one as well. I've been trying to fabricate something like that
for the past few days and keep running into problems with materials.
John
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Subject: | Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION |
I'm in for one
Bowman-40831
----- Original Message -----
From: Don McDonald
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION
OK, guys, this is Don, the harness and headset bracket guy....
anyone interested in the perfect solution to this problem. My brother
is designing and then will make a plenim type system that will slip
right over the fuel selector valve on both sides, then convert back to
the 2" round to match up to the scat tubing. The total area will be
slightly more than the original scat.... not counting if you do it like
Van's suggest, and smash it. A little rubber on the bottom and top, and
it will be held perfectly in place. Just let me know how many would be
interested. Will have pictures of a completed part within a week or so.
Don
--- On Wed, 10/8/08, AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:49 AM
<Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
I wound up taking Aaron's suggestion and routing the line under the fuel
valve. Worried about chafe, and took some measure to prevent it. Thanks
again to
all the great suggestions. I do not think that I could get through this
project
without this web site. Remember Matt when it is time for his annual
donation.
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OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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Subject: | Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION |
count me in for one
DLUDD #40466
In a message dated 10/9/2008 12:40:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
davidbowman1@verizon.net writes:
I'm in for one
Bowman-40831
----- Original Message -----
From: _Don McDonald_ (mailto:building_partner@yahoo.com)
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION
OK, guys, this is Don, the harness and headset bracket guy.... anyone
interested in the perfect solution to this problem. My brother is designing and
then will make a plenim type system that will slip right over the fuel selector
valve on both sides, then convert back to the 2" round to match up to the
scat tubing. The total area will be slightly more than the original scat....
not counting if you do it like Van's suggest, and smash it. A little rubber
on the bottom and top, and it will be held perfectly in place. Just let me
know how many would be interested. Will have pictures of a completed part
within a week or so.
Don
--- On Wed, 10/8/08, AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube)
<Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
I wound up taking Aaron's suggestion and routing the line under the fuel
valve. Worried about chafe, and took some measure to prevent it. Thanks again
to
all the great suggestions. I do not think that I could get through this
project
without this web site. Remember Matt when it is time for his annual donation.
--------
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Subject: | Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION |
Don - I'm interested too but will wait for pictures.
cheers,
Ron
Do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2008 6:57 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) -
SOLUTION
OK, guys, this is Don, the harness and headset bracket guy.... anyone
interested in the perfect solution to this problem. My brother is
designing and then will make a plenim type system that will slip right
over the fuel selector valve on both sides, then convert back to the 2"
round to match up to the scat tubing. The total area will be slightly
more than the original scat.... not counting if you do it like Van's
suggest, and smash it. A little rubber on the bottom and top, and it
will be held perfectly in place. Just let me know how many would be
interested. Will have pictures of a completed part within a week or so.
Don
--- On Wed, 10/8/08, AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:49 AM
<Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
I wound up taking Aaron's suggestion and routing the line under
the fuel
valve. Worried about chafe, and took some measure to prevent it.
Thanks again to
all the great suggestions. I do not think that I could get
through this project
without this web site. Remember Matt when it is time for his
annual donation.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7912#207912
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Subject: | Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer |
I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT.
When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit
would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is
pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other
AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=4053&log=63321&row=1
The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes.
Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments?
Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and
seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location
is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the
elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the
main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from
flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of
trays would be appreciated too.
Thanks
Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson
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Subject: | Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer |
Here's a couple of shots showing what I did.... don't know yet if it works, but
should know next week.
Don.... the bracket guy
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT.
When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit
would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is
pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other
AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=4053&log=63321&row=1
The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes.
Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments?
Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and
seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location
is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the
elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the
main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from
flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of
trays would be appreciated too.
Thanks
Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson
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Subject: | Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer |
Nice! That solves to problem of keeping Van's belt setup and mounting
the unit in a good location.
It appears to me that a nice bracket can be fabricated that just lays on
the longerons. That would ensure alignment and otherwise be simple if a
bit oversized. But the rear belts would have to be mounted elsewhere
(glass top as I understand it). Or the bracket could be fabricated to
incorporate the seat belt anchor - but then you have several ferrous
bolts close to the magnetometer.
Thanks
Bill
do not archive
Don McDonald wrote:
> Here's a couple of shots showing what I did.... don't know yet if it
> works, but should know next week.
> Don.... the bracket guy
>
> --- On *Thu, 10/9/08, MauleDriver /<MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
> To: "RV10-List Digest Server" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:17 PM
>
>
> I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT.
> When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit
> would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is
> pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other
> AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here:
> http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=4053&log=63321&row=1
>
> The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes.
> Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments?
>
> Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and
> seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location
> is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the
> elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the
> main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from
> flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of
> trays would be appreciated too.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer |
Don-
Your comment about mounting the magnetometer (and possibly the AHRS) at the
lateral center between the rear seat mount attach point is dead on target.
I have been flying with a Xbow unit which has Magnetometer & Attitude buil
t into one golden cube mounted at this location and have-proven that it i
s accurate with minimum hard iron interference.
-
This is actually a very good location for both functions since a mounting p
late from left side to right side-laying on top of the longeron is automa
tically aligned with the pitch-and roll axis. Mount the unit parallel wit
h a line from nose to tail and its also aligned with the yaw axis. No inter
nal offsets will be needed.
-
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB, flying
billderou@yahoo.com
-
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Don McDonald <building_partner@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
From: Don McDonald <building_partner@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
Here's a couple of shots showing what I did.... don't know yet if it works,
but should know next week.
Don.... the bracket guy
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT.
When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit
would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is
pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other
AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=
224&category=4053&log=63321&row=1
The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes.
Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments?
Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and
seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location
is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the
elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the
main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from
flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of
trays would be appreciated too.
Thanks
Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson
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Subject: | Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer |
I can't say how well it works but I'll show pictures.
I fabricated a lightweight shelf using .040" aluminum to attach to the
bulkhead behind the baggage wall. I attached it with aluminum pull rivets
and used nylon lock nuts and bolts. The only concern I have is the weight
on the bulkhead and possible vibration while in flight. The magnetometer
and shelf together are very light so it shouldn't be an issue. I suppose I
could fabricate a bracket to support the bulkhead to the skin above but I
haven't done that and I don't really think it's going to be necessary.
The seat belt cables are not ferrous metal. They don't attract a magnet so
they shouldn't influence the magnetometer at all.
Here's a thread on AFS's forum with some more information including a shot
of Rob's dual install which he says has worked w/o incident.
http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10
-Ben Westfall
#40579
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT.
When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit
would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is
pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other
AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&c
ategory=4053&log=63321&row=1
The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes.
Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments?
Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and
seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location
is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the
elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the
main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from
flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of
trays would be appreciated too.
Thanks
Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson
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