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Thu 10/09/08


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 05:51 AM - Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION (johngoodman)
     2. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION (Dave Bowman)
     3. 12:30 PM - Re: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION (DLIUDVINAITIS@aol.com)
     4. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION (McGANN, Ron)
     5. 03:18 PM - Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (MauleDriver)
     6. 04:34 PM - Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (Don McDonald)
     7. 07:03 PM - Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (MauleDriver)
     8. 07:26 PM - Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (Bill DeRouchey)
     9. 09:24 PM - Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer (Ben Westfall)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:51:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    Don, Count me in for one as well. I've been trying to fabricate something like that for the past few days and keep running into problems with materials. John -------- #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8031#208031


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    Time: 10:38:08 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Bowman" <davidbowman1@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION
    I'm in for one Bowman-40831 ----- Original Message ----- From: Don McDonald To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION OK, guys, this is Don, the harness and headset bracket guy.... anyone interested in the perfect solution to this problem. My brother is designing and then will make a plenim type system that will slip right over the fuel selector valve on both sides, then convert back to the 2" round to match up to the scat tubing. The total area will be slightly more than the original scat.... not counting if you do it like Van's suggest, and smash it. A little rubber on the bottom and top, and it will be held perfectly in place. Just let me know how many would be interested. Will have pictures of a completed part within a week or so. Don --- On Wed, 10/8/08, AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote: From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:49 AM <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> I wound up taking Aaron's suggestion and routing the line under the fuel valve. Worried about chafe, and took some measure to prevent it. Thanks again to all the great suggestions. I do not think that I could get through this project without this web site. Remember Matt when it is time for his annual donation. -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in &quot;09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7912#207912 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D


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    Time: 12:30:31 PM PST US
    From: DLIUDVINAITIS@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION
    count me in for one DLUDD #40466 In a message dated 10/9/2008 12:40:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, davidbowman1@verizon.net writes: I'm in for one Bowman-40831 ----- Original Message ----- From: _Don McDonald_ (mailto:building_partner@yahoo.com) Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION OK, guys, this is Don, the harness and headset bracket guy.... anyone interested in the perfect solution to this problem. My brother is designing and then will make a plenim type system that will slip right over the fuel selector valve on both sides, then convert back to the 2" round to match up to the scat tubing. The total area will be slightly more than the original scat.... not counting if you do it like Van's suggest, and smash it. A little rubber on the bottom and top, and it will be held perfectly in place. Just let me know how many would be interested. Will have pictures of a completed part within a week or so. Don --- On Wed, 10/8/08, AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote: From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> I wound up taking Aaron's suggestion and routing the line under the fuel valve. Worried about chafe, and took some measure to prevent it. Thanks again to all the great suggestions. I do not think that I could get through this project without this web site. Remember Matt when it is time for his annual donation. -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in &quot;09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7912#207912 3D============================================ href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List 3D========================= 3D=================== href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D================================== ========== href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/contribution 3D===================================== ======= (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)


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    Time: 02:32:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION
    From: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
    Don - I'm interested too but will wait for pictures. cheers, Ron Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2008 6:57 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) - SOLUTION OK, guys, this is Don, the harness and headset bracket guy.... anyone interested in the perfect solution to this problem. My brother is designing and then will make a plenim type system that will slip right over the fuel selector valve on both sides, then convert back to the 2" round to match up to the scat tubing. The total area will be slightly more than the original scat.... not counting if you do it like Van's suggest, and smash it. A little rubber on the bottom and top, and it will be held perfectly in place. Just let me know how many would be interested. Will have pictures of a completed part within a week or so. Don --- On Wed, 10/8/08, AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote: From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rear Heat Duct (Scat Tube) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:49 AM <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> I wound up taking Aaron's suggestion and routing the line under the fuel valve. Worried about chafe, and took some measure to prevent it. Thanks again to all the great suggestions. I do not think that I could get through this project without this web site. Remember Matt when it is time for his annual donation. -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in &quot;09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7912#207912 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer."


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    Time: 03:18:15 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
    I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT. When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=4053&log=63321&row=1 The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes. Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments? Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of trays would be appreciated too. Thanks Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson


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    Time: 04:34:10 PM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
    Here's a couple of shots showing what I did.... don't know yet if it works, but should know next week. Don.... the bracket guy --- On Thu, 10/9/08, MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> wrote: From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> Subject: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT. When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=4053&log=63321&row=1 The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes. Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments? Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of trays would be appreciated too. Thanks Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson


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    Time: 07:03:09 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
    Nice! That solves to problem of keeping Van's belt setup and mounting the unit in a good location. It appears to me that a nice bracket can be fabricated that just lays on the longerons. That would ensure alignment and otherwise be simple if a bit oversized. But the rear belts would have to be mounted elsewhere (glass top as I understand it). Or the bracket could be fabricated to incorporate the seat belt anchor - but then you have several ferrous bolts close to the magnetometer. Thanks Bill do not archive Don McDonald wrote: > Here's a couple of shots showing what I did.... don't know yet if it > works, but should know next week. > Don.... the bracket guy > > --- On *Thu, 10/9/08, MauleDriver /<MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>/* wrote: > > From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer > To: "RV10-List Digest Server" <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:17 PM > > > I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT. > When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit > would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is > pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other > AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here: > http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=4053&log=63321&row=1 > > The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes. > Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments? > > Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and > seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location > is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the > elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the > main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from > flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of > trays would be appreciated too. > > Thanks > > Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson > > >


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    Time: 07:26:40 PM PST US
    From: Bill DeRouchey <billderou@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
    Don- Your comment about mounting the magnetometer (and possibly the AHRS) at the lateral center between the rear seat mount attach point is dead on target. I have been flying with a Xbow unit which has Magnetometer & Attitude buil t into one golden cube mounted at this location and have-proven that it i s accurate with minimum hard iron interference. - This is actually a very good location for both functions since a mounting p late from left side to right side-laying on top of the longeron is automa tically aligned with the pitch-and roll axis. Mount the unit parallel wit h a line from nose to tail and its also aligned with the yaw axis. No inter nal offsets will be needed. - Bill DeRouchey N939SB, flying billderou@yahoo.com - --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Don McDonald <building_partner@YAHOO.COM> wrote: From: Don McDonald <building_partner@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer Here's a couple of shots showing what I did.... don't know yet if it works, but should know next week. Don.... the bracket guy --- On Thu, 10/9/08, MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> wrote: From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> Subject: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT. When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project= 224&category=4053&log=63321&row=1 The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes. Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments? Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of trays would be appreciated too. Thanks Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson


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    Time: 09:24:17 PM PST US
    From: "Ben Westfall" <rv10@sinkrate.com>
    Subject: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer
    I can't say how well it works but I'll show pictures. I fabricated a lightweight shelf using .040" aluminum to attach to the bulkhead behind the baggage wall. I attached it with aluminum pull rivets and used nylon lock nuts and bolts. The only concern I have is the weight on the bulkhead and possible vibration while in flight. The magnetometer and shelf together are very light so it shouldn't be an issue. I suppose I could fabricate a bracket to support the bulkhead to the skin above but I haven't done that and I don't really think it's going to be necessary. The seat belt cables are not ferrous metal. They don't attract a magnet so they shouldn't influence the magnetometer at all. Here's a thread on AFS's forum with some more information including a shot of Rob's dual install which he says has worked w/o incident. http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10 -Ben Westfall #40579 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Mounting GRT AHRS & Magnetometer I used Van's RV10 AHRS Bracket kit to install the dual AHRS from GRT. When I bought it, I hadn't even selected GRT yet but figured the kit would be useful nonetheless. The kit appears to work well and is pre-drilled for the GRT and the Garmin AHRS. Could be useful for other AHRS as long as they are not combined with the magnetometer. Photos here: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&c ategory=4053&log=63321&row=1 The only un-verified feature is it's alignment with the aircraft axes. Does anyone have any experience with this setup? Comments? Now, on to mounting the magnetometers. I've browsed the archives and seen some of the trays built. It looks like the ideal fuselage location is right where the rear seat belts attach. Sort of midway between the elevator trim and elevator autopilot servo which would appear to be the main potential antagonists. I'd welcome any additional comments from flying builders regarding magnetometer performance. And any pics of trays would be appreciated too. Thanks Bill "panel, engine, wiring, etc" Watson __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3509 (20081009) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.




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