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1. 12:00 AM - GADAHRS placement and the SV-10 (Rodger Todd)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (nukeflyboy)
3. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (Tim Olson)
4. 06:31 AM - Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (William Curtis)
7. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (Don McDonald)
8. 09:45 AM - Re: GADAHRS placement and the SV-10 (John Testement)
9. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (William Curtis)
10. 10:13 AM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (Tim Olson)
11. 10:15 AM - Re: GADAHRS placement and the SV-10 (William Curtis)
12. 11:29 AM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
13. 05:13 PM - Re: Copperstate RV-10 Nest (woxofswa)
14. 08:37 PM - Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (Lenny Iszak)
15. 08:51 PM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (Rick Sked)
16. 09:22 PM - RV-10 kit for sale - save years building! (Phil White)
17. 10:01 PM - Windows and Weld-on angst (Crazing) (AirMike)
18. 10:04 PM - Re: Gretz Heated Pitot tube back in business (AirMike)
19. 10:44 PM - Re: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions (Vernon Smith)
20. 11:49 PM - Re: Windows and Weld-on angst (Crazing) (John Cox)
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| Subject: | GADAHRS placement and the SV-10 |
I'm in the process of trying to work out where the Pinpoint GADAHRS should be placed.
I would be grateful to anyone who has successfully installed their Cheltons
using the SV-10 supplied wiring loom could share where they exactly placed
their Pinpoint?
The instructions supplied by D2A (remember them - some of us would rather forget?)
assumed that the Pinpoint went in the area forward of the instrument panel.
Looking forward to hearing from all the sages out there and wondering why neither
Deems D nor Ron M are flying yet,
Rodger
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
Another good deal from Don. Sign me up for a pair - the check's in the mail.
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Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
You guys do know that Cleveland Tools stocks these now, right?
So they're available all the time, and all of the drilling is done.
I think they may be $5 or $10 more expensive or something like
that, but just wanted you to know that they are there. Another
builder took that design that I originally made and decided to
build them and distribute them through Cleveland. Nothing
wrong with having multiple sources, but just pointing out that
EVERYONE should really get themselves a set sometime, from
at least somewhere, and Cleveland stocks them. I'm not sure
if they include all the hardware like I did originally, or not,
but I also did include a longer Stainless Steel screw for the
outboard side, because those screws definitely will work themselves
loose if not lock-tite'd in.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
nukeflyboy wrote:
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| Subject: | RV10 Axle Extensions |
There are also these:
http://www.iflyrv10.com/iflyrv10/Billet_Pant_Leg_Extension.html
and they look a lot like these:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RVAE10
:)
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of partner14
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Axle Extensions
Not sure what most of you have done, but when I saw the extensions supplied with
the kit, I knew I needed something different/better. So I machined a new set
for myself. Then my neighbor, Mark Carey with a flying 10, told he he sure
wished I had made him a set. That was 6 months ago. Last week he called me to
tell me that after a hard landing, he broke one of the extensions. So, long
story short, I gave him mine, and am now making more. Made out of Aluminum
6061T6, using an AN5 bolt to bolt to the axle nut, instead of the stk AN4. All
that's left to do from the user end is drill out the attach hole in the nut,
install the AN5 bolt, and drill for a cotter pin.
I am initially making 15 sets and am giving them away for $40 a set including shipping.
Don McDonald
#40636
11460 Elks Circle
Rancho Cordova, Ca 95742
916-801-8402
I can hardly wait for Ricks question asking me which one in the picture is the
one I made!!!!!!
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Don A. McDonald
40636
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
Guys really if you can't take two seconds to change the recipient of the email
so we all don't get these, at least add do not archive so all of your orders
don't show up in every search for axle extension or headset bracket. There is
absolutely no reason for your orders to be broadcast out to the group and lodged
into the search engine forever, it just poor form.
Don, might I suggest you setup a web page or use some other forum for your order
collection. At least ask people to send the orders directly to you. I think
it's great you are offering these parts but I'm really tired of all these
"I'll take one" emails.
Soapbox off
Michael
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
Don,
Sign me up for a set!
Lenny
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
Michael,
Ditto! You beat me to the punch. I don't mind so much the "congratulations"
but do we ALL really need to know the "me too" or "sign me up" or "I'll take one."
C'mon guys, you are building airplanes, you should at least be able to figure out
how to change the "To:" field of your email message for this type of replies.
I'm sure many feel this was but were not comfortable publically so. The problem
is that if something is not said, the behavior and "poor form" would continue.
So thanks Michael for raising the "list etiquette" issue again. It helps
to keep the signal to noise ratio of this list high.
Do not archive
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
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> Guys really if you can't take two seconds to change the recipient of the email
so we all don't get these, at least add do not archive so all of your orders
don't show up in every search for axle extension or headset bracket. There
is absolutely no reason for your orders to be broadcast out to the group and
lodged into the search engine forever, it just poor form.
>
> Don, might I suggest you setup a web page or use some other forum for your
order collection. At least ask people to send the orders directly to you. I
think it's great you are offering these parts but I'm really tired of all these
"I'll take one" emails.
>
> Soapbox off
> Michael
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:05 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
>
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> Don,
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> Sign me up for a set!
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> Lenny
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
Sorry to have upset anyone.- I thought it was kind of neat when we were c
hasing the countersink around.... But, point taken.- guys, unless you're
commenting on something about the part, which you think the rest of us migh
t want to know,-like Tim's comments, -please respond directly to me.-
I feel like a kid who got his hand slapped...-- And no, I'm certainly
not going to set up a web page.- The idea was to provide parts to as many
builders as posible for a price all could afford.- It's enough work alre
ady.
Don
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> wrote:
From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
<wcurtis@nerv10.com>
Michael,
Ditto! You beat me to the punch. I don't mind so much the
"congratulations" but do we ALL really need to know the "me
too" or "sign me up" or "I'll take one."
C'mon guys, you are building airplanes, you should at least be able to
figure out how to change the "To:" field of your email message for
this type of replies. I'm sure many feel this was but were not comfortable
publically so. The problem is that if something is not said, the behavior
and
"poor form" would continue. So thanks Michael for raising the
"list etiquette" issue again. It helps to keep the signal to noise
ratio of this list high.
Do not archive
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Guys really if you can't take two seconds to change the recipient of
the email so we all don't get these, at least add do not archive so all of
your orders don't show up in every search for axle extension or headset
bracket. There is absolutely no reason for your orders to be broadcast out
to
the group and lodged into the search engine forever, it just poor form.
>
> Don, might I suggest you setup a web page or use some other forum for
your order collection. At least ask people to send the orders directly to
you.
I think it's great you are offering these parts but I'm really tired of
all these "I'll take one" emails.
>
> Soapbox off
> Michael
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:05 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
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<lenard@rapiddecision.com>
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> Don,
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| Subject: | GADAHRS placement and the SV-10 |
I did mount mine forward of the subpanel but have not flown yet. I am really
hoping that this location will work out.
John Testement
N311RV
Painting
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rodger Todd
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:59 AM
Subject: RV10-List: GADAHRS placement and the SV-10
I'm in the process of trying to work out where the Pinpoint GADAHRS should
be placed. I would be grateful to anyone who has successfully installed
their Cheltons using the SV-10 supplied wiring loom could share where they
exactly placed their Pinpoint?
The instructions supplied by D2A (remember them - some of us would rather
forget?) assumed that the Pinpoint went in the area forward of the
instrument panel.
Looking forward to hearing from all the sages out there and wondering why
neither Deems D nor Ron M are flying yet,
Rodger
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
Don,
I think you mis-understood me (us?). The reply was NOT directed to you, but to
the many replies that should have been sent to you ONLY, that were sent to the
entire list. I think it is great when you or anyone else offers products or
services to the RV community but if someone wants to take advantage of those
offers, the rest of us don't need to know it.
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
>
> Sorry to have upset anyone. I thought it was kind of neat when we were chasing
the countersink around.... But, point taken. guys, unless you're commenting
on something about the part, which you think the rest of us might want to know,like
Tim's comments, please respond directly to me. I feel like a kid who got
his hand slapped... And no, I'm certainly not going to set up a web page. The
idea was to provide parts to as many builders as posible for a price all could
afford. It's enough work already.
> Don
>
> --- On Sun, 10/19/08, William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> wrote:
>
> From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:24 AM
>
> <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
> Michael,
>
> Ditto! You beat me to the punch. I don't mind so much the
> "congratulations" but do we ALL really need to know the "me
> too" or "sign me up" or "I'll take one."
>
> C'mon guys, you are building airplanes, you should at least be able to
> figure out how to change the "To:" field of your email message for
> this type of replies. I'm sure many feel this was but were not comfortable
> publically so. The problem is that if something is not said, the behavior and
> "poor form" would continue. So thanks Michael for raising the
> "list etiquette" issue again. It helps to keep the signal to noise
> ratio of this list high.
>
> Do not archive
>
> William
> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> > X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> >
> Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
> >
> > Guys really if you can't take two seconds to change the recipient of
> the email so we all don't get these, at least add do not archive so all of
> your orders don't show up in every search for axle extension or headset
> bracket. There is absolutely no reason for your orders to be broadcast out to
> the group and lodged into the search engine forever, it just poor form.
> >
> > Don, might I suggest you setup a web page or use some other forum for
> your order collection. At least ask people to send the orders directly to you.
> I think it's great you are offering these parts but I'm really tired of
> all these "I'll take one" emails.
> >
> > Soapbox off
> > Michael
> > Do not archive
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak
> > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:05 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
Don't feel bad Don, it's just a general etiquette thing on
the behalf of the other responders. My suggestion would be
to always just request that
"Please send an email to xyz@yourdomain.com and DO NOT
reply to the list, or reply-all"
I know, it's tough, because I've had the same thing happen
tons of times where you request offline responses but people
just reply to the address without thinking. It's not your
fault, it's just something that people have to try to remember.
And, as William said, not such a big deal when one new
flying RV-10 announcement can generate 15 public replies,
but you just don't want every product announcement to
generate 15 "I'll take one's" that go to the general list.
I find it amazing that even on the VAF site, where it's web
forums, people STILL post those "I'll take one" responses...
when really they should contact the sender only.
Like I said, it's nice that we have multiple suppliers and
multiple design choices with some of these parts, so
nobody wants to stop you from getting them out. We could
use more innovation from people like you. They just want
to see orders requested in a different way than a long
thread generating multiple emails. I posted this response
"do not archive" but as part of the thread, in hopes
that it at least gets people thinking before they do the
same. I'm sure that the Axle extension business will be
continuing good business. At the time when I did the first
group order, there were over 160 pairs that went out, if
I remember right. As far as I'm concerned, this is one
of those parts GUARANTEED to cause problems if you build
it stock....just like people who use the old stainless
spacers on the front axle. If only someone (maybe you're
up for it??) came up with a good retrofit kit that included
anti-rotation stop screws such as this photo I grabbed
off the VAF forum a long time ago:
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/maintenance/NoseWheel/2005087365224441271_rs.jpg
Now THAT is a parts kit that I think would also be a "must buy".
My writeup on that problem is here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060809/index.html
Good luck and folks, just email Don directly if you want
his extensions. If you're a newer builder who's completely
uninformed as to the problems with the original extensions,
here's my old write-up:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html
What would be REALLY interesting is to see what Van's reply
would be, if a couple of people who had the standard ones
break called up and said "Have you ever seen this problem
before?" I'd put a couple bucks on the bet that they'd say
"No, we've never heard of that problem." :) Too bad in the
field, these things have been failing quite often...probably
due to the RV-10 using larger fairings than they were used to.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Don McDonald wrote:
> Sorry to have upset anyone. I thought it was kind of neat when we were
> chasing the countersink around.... But, point taken. guys, unless
> you're commenting on something about the part, which you think the rest
> of us might want to know, like Tim's comments, please respond directly
> to me. I feel like a kid who got his hand slapped... And no, I'm
> certainly not going to set up a web page. The idea was to provide parts
> to as many builders as posible for a price all could afford. It's
> enough work already.
> Don
>
> --- On *Sun, 10/19/08, William Curtis /<wcurtis@nerv10.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:24 AM
>
> <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
> Michael,
>
> Ditto! You beat me to the punch. I don't mind so much the
> "congratulations" but do we ALL really need to know the "me
> too" or "sign me up" or "I'll take one."
>
> C'mon guys, you are building airplanes, you should at least be able to
> figure out how to change the "To:" field of your email message for
> this type of replies. I'm sure many feel this was but were not comfortable
> publically so. The problem is that if something is not said, the behavior
and
> "poor form" would continue. So thanks Michael for raising the
> "list etiquette" issue again. It helps to keep the signal to noise
> ratio of this list high.
>
> Do not archive
>
> William
> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> > X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> >
> Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
> >
> > Guys really if you can't take two seconds to change the recipient of
> the email so we all don't get these, at least add do not archive so all of
> your orders don't show up in every search for axle extension or headset
> bracket. There is absolutely no reason for your orders to be broadcast out
to
> the group and lodged into the search engine forever, it just poor form.
> >
> > Don, might I suggest you setup a web page or use some other forum for
> your order collection. At least ask people to send the orders directly to
you.
> I think it's great you are offering these parts but I'm really tired of
> all these "I'll take one" emails.
> >
> > Soapbox off
> > Michael
> > Do not archive
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak
> > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:05 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
> >
> <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > Sign me up for a set!
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> > Lenny
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| Subject: | GADAHRS placement and the SV-10 |
Rodger,
Have you looked at this thread?
http://www.matronics.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49405
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
>
> I'm in the process of trying to work out where the Pinpoint GADAHRS should be
placed. I would be grateful to anyone who has successfully installed their Cheltons
using the SV-10 supplied wiring loom could share where they exactly placed
their Pinpoint?
>
> The instructions supplied by D2A (remember them - some of us would rather forget?)
assumed that the Pinpoint went in the area forward of the instrument panel.
>
> Looking forward to hearing from all the sages out there and wondering why neither
Deems D nor Ron M are flying yet,
>
> Rodger
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
You didn't upset anyone and you shouldn't feel like a kid who got his han
d slapped, unless you are a kid who got his hand slapped. ;P Certainly isn
't your doing.
Anyway, it's up to everyone to remember that there is a certain level of
etiquette even in something as impersonal as email. Everyone forgets to do
things like trimming posts, changing subject lines, and adding "do not arc
hive" to things like "me too" from time to time and it's not a big deal nor
mally. I only chime in when it gets excessive, and you've been popping par
ts out so fast there has been no die down in between. I personally have no
interest in how you go about your business but, as with other vendors, all
most of us ask is you make an attempt to encourage people to contact you d
irectly so this doesn't turn into a classifieds forum and we keep a high le
vel of building communications.
Feel free to keep up the parts creations and posting new stuff here and a
s Tim said, tackle the nose wheel problem if you want something that will g
enerate a couple hundred "I'll take one" emails.
Michael
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
Sorry to have upset anyone. I thought it was kind of neat when we were cha
sing the countersink around.... But, point taken. guys, unless you're comm
enting on something about the part, which you think the rest of us might wa
nt to know, like Tim's comments, please respond directly to me. I feel li
ke a kid who got his hand slapped... And no, I'm certainly not going to s
et up a web page. The idea was to provide parts to as many builders as pos
ible for a price all could afford. It's enough work already.
Don
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| Subject: | Re: Copperstate RV-10 Nest |
Due to feedback from several parties, the meal/gathering will be changed to lunch
instead of dinner. See you Saturday.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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Oops, the inconsiderate dude was me... I don't use email, but browse the forum
online as I find it much easier to follow.
To my defense though i kind of though this was an accepted practice as I've seen
it happen with some other things offered in the last few weeks.
I apologize to all those inconvenienced and bothered by my "me too" message.
Regards,
Lenny
#40803
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Seems a few heavy hands fell today....didn't notice till tonight...was too busy
working on my AIRPLANE!!!
Lighten up guys!!
Rick Sked
40185
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:36:20 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
Oops, the inconsiderate dude was me... I don't use email, but browse the forum
online as I find it much easier to follow.
To my defense though i kind of though this was an accepted practice as I've seen
it happen with some other things offered in the last few weeks.
I apologize to all those inconvenienced and bothered by my "me too" message.
Regards,
Lenny
#40803
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| Subject: | RV-10 kit for sale - save years building! |
Airframe finished; needs your engine and panel choices.
Only the wheel pants and gear fairings not yet done.
Save 1,500+ hours of construction labor
Extras included:
Tru-Trak roll servo installed
Angle of Attack Reserve Lift Indicator
ASI, Altimeter
Landing lights, LED markers, Strobes
Fuel level senders
CH Products dual grips and trim relay
4 sets Seat Belts
Parking Brake valve
Tow bar - Bogert
Aircraft construction tools:
Cleaveland Main Squeeze, rivet gun & bucking bars, L&R shears, dimpler & table,
and many more.
$85,000 invested; make me an offer
Phil White 630/985-1234 philwhite9@aol.com Downers Grove, IL (Chi suburb)
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| Subject: | Windows and Weld-on angst (Crazing) |
I put in a bunch of work perfecting my windshield's fit and finish including 220
sanding the edges to perfection.
Today with the assistance of my friend Jae who is also building an RV10 we did
the install with Weld-on. Having heard the stories about cracks and crazing I
took a supreme amount of caution to not over-clamp the plastic.
I USED ONLY ENOUGH PRESSURE TO HOLD THE PLASTIC DWN.
We used 6 clamps - 3 on each side with quite light pressure. When the clamps were
removed, I was appalled to see 6 sets of crazed patterns emanating from the
site where the clamps were. I am still dumbfounded, but it is obvious that even
the slightest clamping force causes the cracks.
I would strongly urge against Weld-on. I had some crazing before on a rear window,
but thought that it might have been my fault. WRONG
As far as I can see - ANY CLAMPING WITH WELD ON IS TOO MUCH CLAMPING.
Dave Saylor has another system. I urge you to look it up and use it.
This Weld-On stuff does something to the plastic and screws it up,
Appreciate any other comments on Crack-on adhesive
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OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Gretz Heated Pitot tube back in business |
I sent Andrew at at Angus my Visa card number. It was scammed with over $2000 in
bogus charges from Australia. Use extreme caution in sending payment via charge
card.
I do not want to infer in any way that Andrew was guilty of any wrongdoing, but
his e-mail is definitely not secure.
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Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Axle Extensions |
Tim & Don=2C
What I would like to see is a cap and shaft arrangement similar to the Cess
na 150 front axle. The two caps take the place of the aluminum spacers we u
se but fit over the shaft end and are captured by the axle bolt. Bearing pr
e-load is set by using different thickness spacers.
A retro fit kit would consist of a shorter than stock shaft=2C two end caps
and some spacers.
Vern Smith (#324)
> Date: Sun=2C 19 Oct 2008 12:12:48 -0500
> From: Tim@MyRV10.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV10 Axle Extensions
>
>
...just like people who use the old stainless
> spacers on the front axle. If only someone (maybe you're
> up for it??) came up with a good retrofit kit that included
> anti-rotation stop screws
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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>
>
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| Subject: | Windows and Weld-on angst (Crazing) |
Mike -
I am feeling your pain tonight. Photographers with a Polarizing lens
(one that rotates perpendicular to the lines of illumination) can rotate
the lens and read the stress induced lines that are introduced into the
plexi. It's a Mr. Wizard or Nye the Science Guy kind of thing.
Polarizing sunglasses with discrete use and placement of the light
(illumination) source will do the same thing. It is amazing the stress
that is applied when clamping plexi. Weld On chemically alters the
plexi to affect the adhesion properties of the product. Solvents present
in Weld-On do their chemistry by magic.
In A&P school I "stop drilled" a developing crack using a 1/8" (Plexi)
drill bit. Then I inserted a 1/8" rod stock into the hole with solvent.
I thought it would be nice to fill the stop drill hole to impress my
instructor. The next day I found those 1,000 points of light from the
swollen rod stock. Learned a valuable lesson. Know your chemistry.
Read the plexi. Use smaller rod stock. Try a sample.
Like all composite work. Use two coupons of similar material (one of
plexi the other of fiberglass) and test your chemistry before investing
the final product to production. Your recommendation of Dave Saylor's
work is wise advise. Hope others learn by your efforts. Remember to
work with warm not cold Plexi.
Removal of scratches or keeping a polished final finish is another
subject, for later.
John Cox
40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Windows and Weld-on angst (Crazing)
I put in a bunch of work perfecting my windshield's fit and finish
including 220 sanding the edges to perfection.
Today with the assistance of my friend Jae who is also building an RV10
we did the install with Weld-on. Having heard the stories about cracks
and crazing I took a supreme amount of caution to not over-clamp the
plastic.
I USED ONLY ENOUGH PRESSURE TO HOLD THE PLASTIC DWN.
We used 6 clamps - 3 on each side with quite light pressure. When the
clamps were removed, I was appalled to see 6 sets of crazed patterns
emanating from the site where the clamps were. I am still dumbfounded,
but it is obvious that even the slightest clamping force causes the
cracks.
I would strongly urge against Weld-on. I had some crazing before on a
rear window, but thought that it might have been my fault. WRONG
As far as I can see - ANY CLAMPING WITH WELD ON IS TOO MUCH CLAMPING.
Dave Saylor has another system. I urge you to look it up and use it.
This Weld-On stuff does something to the plastic and screws it up,
Appreciate any other comments on Crack-on adhesive
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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