RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 11/10/08


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     0. 12:21 AM - Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:24 PM - Measuring Amp draw (gary)
     2. 02:18 PM - Re: Measuring Amp draw (Jim)
     3. 03:06 PM - Re: Measuring Amp draw (Jim)
     4. 04:56 PM - cool oil (lbgjb10)
     5. 05:24 PM - Re: Measuring Amp draw (gary)
     6. 05:25 PM - Re: Measuring Amp draw (gary)
     7. 06:05 PM - Re: cool oil (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     8. 06:06 PM - VP200 Load Planning Worksheet (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     9. 06:32 PM - Aftermarket RV-10 Interior Door Handles (Patrick Pulis)
    10. 06:48 PM - Re: Aftermarket RV-10 Interior Door Handles (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    11. 07:06 PM - HS Attachment Bar Clearance (Perry, Phil)
    12. 07:18 PM - Control Stick Grips (MauleDriver)
    13. 07:40 PM - Re: Control Stick Grips (Rene)
    14. 07:41 PM - Re: Control Stick Grips (Carl Froehlich)
    15. 07:43 PM - Re: Control Stick Grips (Patrick Pulis)
    16. 07:48 PM - Re: Control Stick Grips (Perry, Phil)
    17. 07:58 PM - Re: Control Stick Grips (Tim Olson)
    18. 08:17 PM -  Re: QB Wing Angst- Oil Canning (David McNeill)
    19. 08:21 PM - Re: cool oil (Kevin Belue)
    20. 08:44 PM - Air box and alternate air door (David McNeill)
    21. 08:48 PM - Re: Control Stick Grips (Robin Marks)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:21:28 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
    Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 12:24:29 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Measuring Amp draw
    I have my amp meter set up as a load meter measuring the output of the alternator. However, it reads about 40 amps after the battery is recharged. I don't have 40 amps worth of fuses in my panel so I suspect that the shunt/EFIS aren't giving me the correct reading. Does anyone have a DC amp meter that they are willing to let me try to get an accurate reading so that I can confront the EFIS/engine monitor folks and get a correct correction factor applied? Or does someone have a better idea? Gary Specketer 40274 Flying


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    Time: 02:18:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Measuring Amp draw
    From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    Gary, I actually have a high current lab DC power supply that we could have used to check the shunt. I know we had a busy weekend, but we could have just connected up the power supply and had a known calibrated power feed to the airplane (via the alternator lead). It's pretty heavy, or I would consider shipping it to you to use. The other choice is to make a second calibrated shunt and put in series with the alternator lead. That's a lot easier to do. Jim C > I have my amp meter set up as a load meter measuring the output of the > alternator. However, it reads about 40 amps after the battery is > recharged. > I don't have 40 amps worth of fuses in my panel so I suspect that the > shunt/EFIS aren't giving me the correct reading. Does anyone have a DC > amp > meter that they are willing to let me try to get an accurate reading so > that > I can confront the EFIS/engine monitor folks and get a correct correction > factor applied? > > > > Or does someone have a better idea? > > > > Gary Specketer > > 40274 Flying > >


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    Time: 03:06:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Measuring Amp draw
    From: "Jim" <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    you might also try this: http://store.solar-electric.com/mka-100-100.html You have two alternators, do you have two separate shunts? Jim C N312F, 40192


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    Time: 04:56:31 PM PST US
    Subject: cool oil
    From: "lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net>
    Have louvers on sides and oil temps in hot summer are great--even in climbs. However, in cold weather sometimes hard to get above 150 when it's really cold outside. Any good suggestions for partially blocking--tape?? what will withstand engine heat and not melt?? Also have larger oil cooler. thanks. larry & gayle -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213410#213410


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    Time: 05:24:07 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Measuring Amp draw
    I don't think the shunt is at fault, I think that the calibration in either the engine monitor or the EFIS is converting it to a wrong number. The shunt is measured by the engine monitor and that info is fed to the EFIS. Somewhere in there is the problem IMHO. Gary _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:17 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Measuring Amp draw Gary, I actually have a high current lab DC power supply that we could have used to check the shunt. I know we had a busy weekend, but we could have just connected up the power supply and had a known calibrated power feed to the airplane (via the alternator lead). It's pretty heavy, or I would consider shipping it to you to use. The other choice is to make a second calibrated shunt and put in series with the alternator lead. That's a lot easier to do. Jim C > I have my amp meter set up as a load meter measuring the output of the > alternator. However, it reads about 40 amps after the battery is > recharged. > I don't have 40 amps worth of fuses in my panel so I suspect that the > shunt/EFIS aren't giving me the correct reading. Does anyone have a DC > amp > meter that they are willing to let me try to get an accurate reading so > that > I can confront the EFIS/engine monitor folks and get a correct correction > factor applied? > > > > Or does someone have a better idea? > > > > Gary Specketer > > 40274 Flying > >


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    Time: 05:25:46 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Measuring Amp draw
    Both Alternators feed into a common shunt. Neal George has a clamp on amp meter, so I will try that first. Gary _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Measuring Amp draw you might also try this: http://store.solar-electric.com/mka-100-100.html You have two alternators, do you have two separate shunts? Jim C N312F, 40192


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    Time: 06:05:22 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: cool oil
    You can do the shutter Van's sells or the butterfly valve that someone else does (sorry, can't remember who offhand). Both of those give you in flight adjustability rather than a static setting that tape gives you. Of course that works too. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lbgjb10 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: RV10-List: cool oil Have louvers on sides and oil temps in hot summer are great--even in climbs. However, in cold weather sometimes hard to get above 150 when it's really cold outside. Any good suggestions for partially blocking--tape?? what will withstand engine heat and not melt?? Also have larger oil cooler. thanks. larry & gayle -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213410#213410


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    Time: 06:06:16 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: VP200 Load Planning Worksheet
    Anyone else doing a VP that can share their load planning sheets? Marc, do you have any others besides the one posted to your site? Michael


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    Time: 06:32:51 PM PST US
    From: Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
    Subject: Aftermarket RV-10 Interior Door Handles
    =0A=0AHi there, I'm trying to track down David Nellis ( davidnellis691@comc ast.net) who was selling the aftermarket interior door handles for the RV-1 0, however my emails are bouncing and don't seem to be=C2-getting through .=0A=C2-=0ACould anyone please provide an alternate email for David, or i f they know David, could they please request him to make contact with me. =0A=C2-=0AMany thanks in anticipation for your assistance.=0A=C2-=0A=C2 -=0ARegards=0A=C2-=0APATRICK PULIS=C2-=0ARV-10 #40299=C2- VH-XPP=0A Adelaide, South=C2-Australia =0A=0ATel:=C2-=C2-=C2- (08) 8236 6808 =0AMob:=C2-=C2-=C2- 0418 850 156 =0AFax:=C2-=C2-=C2- (08) 8236 6899 =0AEmail:=C2- patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au =0A=0A=0A_________________ _______________=0A=0ASearch 1000's of available singles in your area at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. Get Started. =0A=0A=0A Find your perfect match to day at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. Get Started http://au.dating.yahoo.com/?cid =53151&pid=1012


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    Time: 06:48:41 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Aftermarket RV-10 Interior Door Handles
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    Time: 07:06:57 PM PST US
    Subject: HS Attachment Bar Clearance
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    Hi, I'm currently fitting the longerons inside the tailcone. On page 10-6 Step 1, we're asked to remove an area of material for clearance of the HS attachment bars. Upon fitting, I'm finding that the HS attachment bars are touching the longerons. 1) Is this acceptable? I'm guessing not. 2) I've continued to remove material from the longeron and right now I'm pushing 15/32 of removed material when the plans called for 11/32. In order to get the HS attachment bars to easily clear, I'm guessing I'll have to removed another 2 or 3/32. Is that a problem or should I just start over with a new longeron? Here are links to the photos. http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3395 .jpg http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3396 .jpg http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3397 .jpg Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 07:18:05 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Control Stick Grips
    OK, I'm all torn up. The Infinity grips are sexy but I just don't think I want all that function on the stick. This is a cruiser not a hot ass. Heck, I'm a cruiser, not a hot ass, at least not any longer... I looked and played with the Infinity grips at Osh. Nicely designed and built. Price is ok too. The Ray Allens were kept at arm's length just because they looked so stogy. But now that I've thought things through, the G305/G307 is looking like the right tool on the AS catalog page. I now wish I had looked and played with them at Osh. Specifically, I don't want my flap switch on the stick - a single panel mount rocker is where I'm going. I do want a hat switch for my trim on the stick and of course a PTT. I've never flown with an autopilot so I don't really know about a autopilot disco switch. I'm very interested in comparisons of the Infinity and the RA grips - quality, comfort, RV10 fit. Also thoughts on switch function. Price just doesn't matter here given the price range. Bill "panel cutting, instrument mounting, and wire routing" Watson


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    Time: 07:40:06 PM PST US
    From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Control Stick Grips
    I went with the Infinity grips...very happy.... First, my opinion, you must have the autopilot disconnect on the stick....just my opinion. But when you need it you will need to have your hand on the stick and when the autopilot goes wacko you need to have your hand on the stick and throttle and not reaching for another switch....during testing I had a hard pitch over and was happy to have the switch on the stick. On the pilot side I have the following switch config... Left top, autopilot disconnect Hat switch, trims (elevator and aileron) Right top, flap Trigger, press to talk Thumb, Freq flip flop on SL30 Pinky, Ident Rene' 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: RV10-List: Control Stick Grips OK, I'm all torn up. The Infinity grips are sexy but I just don't think I want all that function on the stick. This is a cruiser not a hot ass. Heck, I'm a cruiser, not a hot ass, at least not any longer... I looked and played with the Infinity grips at Osh. Nicely designed and built. Price is ok too. The Ray Allens were kept at arm's length just because they looked so stogy. But now that I've thought things through, the G305/G307 is looking like the right tool on the AS catalog page. I now wish I had looked and played with them at Osh. Specifically, I don't want my flap switch on the stick - a single panel mount rocker is where I'm going. I do want a hat switch for my trim on the stick and of course a PTT. I've never flown with an autopilot so I don't really know about a autopilot disco switch. I'm very interested in comparisons of the Infinity and the RA grips - quality, comfort, RV10 fit. Also thoughts on switch function. Price just doesn't matter here given the price range. Bill "panel cutting, instrument mounting, and wire routing" Watson


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    Time: 07:41:42 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
    Subject: Control Stick Grips
    I have the Infinity grip in my 8A, and will put it in the 10. I find having the flaps on the stick to work well (toggle switch, momentary down, stays on in the up position). In fact I would not recommend any other place. The other functions used: 1. PTT 2. Comm frequency flip flop. I use this a lot. 3. Auto pilot disconnect. This is real handy to engage the wing leveler without needing to divert your eyes or move a hand to the panel. For straight stick flying I keep the auto pilot in wing leveler mode just for this reason. 4. Trim hat. I originally had the starter button on the stick. I found this problematic and have since move the starter button to a side panel. Carl Froehlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:18 PM Subject: RV10-List: Control Stick Grips OK, I'm all torn up. The Infinity grips are sexy but I just don't think I want all that function on the stick. This is a cruiser not a hot ass. Heck, I'm a cruiser, not a hot ass, at least not any longer... I looked and played with the Infinity grips at Osh. Nicely designed and built. Price is ok too. The Ray Allens were kept at arm's length just because they looked so stogy. But now that I've thought things through, the G305/G307 is looking like the right tool on the AS catalog page. I now wish I had looked and played with them at Osh. Specifically, I don't want my flap switch on the stick - a single panel mount rocker is where I'm going. I do want a hat switch for my trim on the stick and of course a PTT. I've never flown with an autopilot so I don't really know about a autopilot disco switch. I'm very interested in comparisons of the Infinity and the RA grips - quality, comfort, RV10 fit. Also thoughts on switch function. Price just doesn't matter here given the price range. Bill "panel cutting, instrument mounting, and wire routing" Watson


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    Time: 07:43:49 PM PST US
    From: Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Control Stick Grips
    Bill, check out the CS-8 stick grips made by CH Products.=C2- Check out t heir products at the Tosten Manufacturing website=C2-at www.tostenmanufac turing.com =0A=0AThese grips are functional and very comfortable for left a nd right had interchangeability.=C2- Hope this helps.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0AP atrick=0ARV-10 #40299=0AVH-XPP=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AF rom: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>=0ATo: RV10-List Digest Server <rv1 0-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008 1:47:40 PM=0ASubje uleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>=0A=0AOK, I'm all torn up.=C2- The Infin ity grips are sexy but I just don't think I want all that function on the s tick.=C2- This is a cruiser not a hot ass.=C2- Heck, I'm a cruiser, not a hot ass, at least not any longer...=0A=0AI looked and played with the In finity grips at Osh.=C2- Nicely designed and built.=C2- Price is ok too .=C2- The Ray Allens were kept at arm's length just because they looked s o stogy.=C2- But now that I've thought things through, the G305/G307 is l ooking like the right tool on the AS catalog page.=C2- =C2- I now wish I had looked and played with them at Osh.=0A=0ASpecifically, I don't want m y flap switch on the stick - a single panel mount rocker is where I'm going .=C2- I do want a hat switch for my trim on the stick and of course a PTT .=C2- I've never flown with an autopilot so I don't really know about a a utopilot disco switch.=0A=0AI'm very interested in comparisons of the Infin ity and the RA grips - quality, comfort, RV10 fit.=C2- Also thoughts on s witch function.=C2- Price just doesn't matter here given the price range. =0ABill "panel cutting, instrument mounting, and wire routing" Watson=0A - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- ======================0A=0A=0A Find your perfect match today at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. Get Started htt p://au.dating.yahoo.com/?cid=53151&pid=1012


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    Time: 07:48:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Control Stick Grips
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    I'm really tempted to have mine carved out of hardwood. PTT and maybe elevator trim... But like you, I'm hoping to make them look classy. -----Original Message----- From: MauleDriver [mailto:MauleDriver@nc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: RV10-List: Control Stick Grips OK, I'm all torn up. The Infinity grips are sexy but I just don't think I want all that function on the stick. This is a cruiser not a hot ass. Heck, I'm a cruiser, not a hot ass, at least not any longer... I looked and played with the Infinity grips at Osh. Nicely designed and built. Price is ok too. The Ray Allens were kept at arm's length just because they looked so stogy. But now that I've thought things through, the G305/G307 is looking like the right tool on the AS catalog page. I now wish I had looked and played with them at Osh. Specifically, I don't want my flap switch on the stick - a single panel mount rocker is where I'm going. I do want a hat switch for my trim on the stick and of course a PTT. I've never flown with an autopilot so I don't really know about a autopilot disco switch. I'm very interested in comparisons of the Infinity and the RA grips - quality, comfort, RV10 fit. Also thoughts on switch function. Price just doesn't matter here given the price range. Bill "panel cutting, instrument mounting, and wire routing" Watson


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    Time: 07:58:09 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Control Stick Grips
    I'd agree with Rene'. As you know I have the Infinity grips, and it would be insane NOT to put an AP disconnect on the stick. There are so many functions that would be convenient to put on a stick grip that even the infinity could use another switch or two if it could be done nicely. So I wouldn't skimp on quantities of switches. Chances are you'll find use for every one of them. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Rene wrote: > > I went with the Infinity grips...very happy.... > > First, my opinion, you must have the autopilot disconnect on the > stick....just my opinion. But when you need it you will need to have your > hand on the stick and when the autopilot goes wacko you need to have your > hand on the stick and throttle and not reaching for another switch....during > testing I had a hard pitch over and was happy to have the switch on the > stick. > > On the pilot side I have the following switch config... > > Left top, autopilot disconnect > Hat switch, trims (elevator and aileron) > Right top, flap > Trigger, press to talk > Thumb, Freq flip flop on SL30 > Pinky, Ident > > > Rene' > 801-721-6080 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:18 PM > To: RV10-List Digest Server > Subject: RV10-List: Control Stick Grips > > > OK, I'm all torn up. The Infinity grips are sexy but I just don't think > I want all that function on the stick. This is a cruiser not a hot > ass. Heck, I'm a cruiser, not a hot ass, at least not any longer... > > I looked and played with the Infinity grips at Osh. Nicely designed and > built. Price is ok too. The Ray Allens were kept at arm's length just > because they looked so stogy. But now that I've thought things through, > the G305/G307 is looking like the right tool on the AS catalog page. > I now wish I had looked and played with them at Osh. > > Specifically, I don't want my flap switch on the stick - a single panel > mount rocker is where I'm going. I do want a hat switch for my trim on > the stick and of course a PTT. I've never flown with an autopilot so I > don't really know about a autopilot disco switch. > > I'm very interested in comparisons of the Infinity and the RA grips - > quality, comfort, RV10 fit. Also thoughts on switch function. Price > just doesn't matter here given the price range. > > Bill "panel cutting, instrument mounting, and wire routing" Watson > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:17:13 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Angst- Oil Canning
    In order to continue to exercise your rights to contribute to the gene pool I suggest that proseal not be used to glue angles inside wings. Proseal is a sealant not an adhesive; hence it possible that a piece my come loose and interfere with control mechanisms. Jammed ailerons or asymmetrical flaps could ruin someone's day. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:22 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: QB Wing Angst- Oil Canning Tom Thanks for the comments. I have thought about proseal as well. My only concern is I don't know how well the proseal will attach to my primer. I wouldn't want the angle to depart the skin and mess up the controls etc. My inclination would be to rivet the stiffner. With effort I can reach the square and use a pop rivet dimpler. Then again perhaps I am just being a bit to anal. Cheers Les -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tomhanaway Sent: November-09-08 8:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: QB Wing Angst- Oil Cannnig Les, I went through the same thing. I ended up using proseal to attach a 6" piece of aluminum angle to the inside of the square that was oilcanning. Can't speak for final result as the plane hasn't flown yet but ground test (me pushing on panel) showed any canning was completely gone. Tom Hanaway Boynton Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213193#213193


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    Time: 08:21:59 PM PST US
    From: "Kevin Belue" <kdbelue@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: cool oil
    Here is the website for the butterfly valve: http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-controller-cooler-p-14566.html?osCsid=3b72614996a7569bab65773be35830a5 Kevin Belue RV-6A Flying RV-10 Flying ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:04 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: cool oil > <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > You can do the shutter Van's sells or the butterfly valve that someone > else does (sorry, can't remember who offhand). Both of those give you in > flight adjustability rather than a static setting that tape gives you. Of > course that works too. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lbgjb10 > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:55 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: cool oil > > > Have louvers on sides and oil temps in hot summer are great--even in > climbs. However, in cold weather sometimes hard to get above 150 when > it's really cold outside. Any good suggestions for partially > blocking--tape?? what will withstand engine heat and not melt?? Also have > larger oil cooler. thanks. larry & gayle > > -------- > Larry and Gayle N104LG > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213410#213410 > > >


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    Time: 08:44:17 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Air box and alternate air door
    Just pulled the cowl for first 100 hours inspection. Found the galvanized ring (VA192A) of the alternate air door partially pulled from the bottom of the air box. the rivets had pulled through the glass and the nut plate for the door pivot was holding it there. To fix this I fabricated an aluminum ring for the inside and match drilled the ring and galvanized ring. I cleaned the bottom with a scotchbrite pad and grinder and put two additional layers of glass on the bottom. I will epoxy putty the VA192A and the fabricated ring to the box and rivet (1097s) after cure. I will then add small dabs of RTV on the rivet buck tails on the inside to ensure that even if a rivet breaks, nothing will enter the injection system.


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    Time: 08:48:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Control Stick Grips
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    I vote for the Infinity. The Tosen grips look slick if you can live with less function. I had Infinity them on my 4 & 6A and now the -10. I also agree with the requirement for the AP disconnect as one of the most important functions at fingers reach. Picture approach control saying "Traffic Alert 1 mile turn 30 degrees left" It's nice NOT look down, just hit the red button and start turning. I also have PTT, Flip/Flop, dual trim. I don't have ident but would do so next time. My 6A has the flaps on the stick and panel. I really liked the stick flaps (momentary down, full auto up- Great for Go-Arounds). I didn't do it on my -10 because of the preset stop option on the flaps. Please remember to "clock" your grip to suit your arm/hand angle for max comfort. Good luck, Robin




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