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1. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: Dave Saylor / Aircrafters / Composite Grade School (John Jessen)
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| Subject: | Re: Dave Saylor / Aircrafters / Composite Grade School |
To answer a couple items:
1. To Ron's point, they did the cutting, sanding, etc, to the top outside
the shop, with one person holding the top, along with a vacuum hose, while
the other did the deed. Picture attached.
2. My comments about the top and roll bar awhile back. I'm cannot be sure
if that top is as strong as folks hope it will be, should you go topsy turvy
on landing, but it is one hefty piece of work in the "roll bar" area. I
know it has been drop tested and satisfied that engineering criteria.
Should you go upside down, that top might be the most likely thing to
survive. In short, when I get to that stage, I'm building to plans and not
doing any mods. I think sometimes I look at fiberglass and cannot believe
that it can be that strong. There were two and a half glass birds in Dave's
shop. Two Lancair's and one Glastar (thus the half). We got to have a look
at both glass and carbon fiber work. Amazing the rigidity with pieces that
on their own you wouldn't think would give you that much strength and form.
After we did our little projects, I was even more impressed. I've been
slamming my Searey 20' ski boat around at 50 mph into some pretty hard water
for years and years. Duh. I'm pretty sure it's not made out of aluminum.
3. As far as a video goes. I've asked Dave if he would mind if I put
together a compilation of the most important demos and gems to share with
those who attended the course, and he indicated that was fine with him. If
there was a distribution beyond that, that would have to be up to Dave.
It's his material, not mine. I'll put some pictures on the web site and
some verbiage, though.
4. I've enjoyed Les Kornkeirny's company now on several occasions, and he
can spell my name anyway he wants. :-)
John Jessen
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Dave Saylor / Aircrafters / Composite Grade
School
'Fiberglass is not something to fret about, it is an amazing medium to work
with.'
Unless of course you develop an allergy to the stuff, pollute your lungs
with the dust, or don't care about EVERYTHING that was not protected in the
workshop/hangar being covered in a two inch layer of crud. My hangar
buddies REAAAALY started to lose their sense of humour with the amount of
dust and crap that is generated in preparing the glass stuff for paint.
I actually enjoyed working with it - but the consequences of working with it
are a different matter ;->
cheers,
Ron
-187 painting almost done!
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Dave Saylor / Aircrafters / Composite Grade
School
Rene,
You are not seeing the picture correctly. You only built one RV 10, so your
twenty times probably does not match all the times Dave did his RV10, then
did the next one for a student and so on and so on.
If I told someone that they could take at least 3/16" or more off the
fiberglass before needing to worry about finessing then look at all the
experience that was missed in developing skills with the power tools used in
the process and the all the analytical problem solving which was missed. It
might be faster with the class, but all that other stuff has to be worth
something...doesn't it?
Fiberglass is not something to fret about, it is an amazing medium to work
with.
JOhn G.
> From: rene@felker.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Dave Saylor / Aircrafters / Composite Grade
School
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:58:33 -0700
>
>
> It just seems unfair.......I think I put mine on and off 20 times......but
> that is what I get for not going to the class and learning from a pro.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Rene' Felker
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:10 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Dave Saylor / Aircrafters / Composite Grade
> School
>
> Here's one shot captured off a video of the RV-10 top being installed at
> Dave's seminar this past weekend. That was the first of two fits. All that
> was needed after this was to grind off some high spots, trim a couple of
> other spots and the install was essentially done. It does appear to
require
> a minimum of two people, although I'm sure many have done it solo.
>
> Dave is in the red shirt. Jeff Carpenter, whose cabin top this is, is to
> the right making sure he still has a finger tip left after if got
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