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0. 12:32 AM - Value of the List... (Matt Dralle)
1. 06:56 AM - Re: avionics escrow (gwirrell@aerotronics.com)
2. 07:29 AM - Re: avionics escrow (David McNeill)
3. 08:30 AM - Re: cool oil (lbgjb10)
4. 11:43 AM - Silpruf (John Jessen)
5. 12:10 PM - Re: Silpruf (Rick Sked)
6. 01:09 PM - Re: Silpruf (John Jessen)
7. 03:21 PM - Re: Silpruf (David McNeill)
8. 03:27 PM - Re: Silpruf (David McNeill)
9. 04:07 PM - seal around the airvents (David McNeill)
10. 11:39 PM - Tony Bengelis Award for 2008 (John Cox)
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| Subject: | Value of the List... |
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>If I can put my 2 cents in as well, we all understand and are concerned
about what is happening with our money today. I agree with Stein thats
it's important to find a respected avionics shop. My concern would be
that if you are uncomfortable with the shop you are working with ( to a
point of having to have an escrow account ) I would also be concerned
about the quality of services you might receive. I guess what Im trying
to say is that the money is important ( and the top shops understand that
) but don't overlook the history and strength of the company you choose
to work with as well.
Gary
>
> That's a pretty easy thing to do, and in fact something that shops have
> done
> in the past. I know we've done that more than once. However, if you find
> yourself a good and well respected avionics shop, you'll find that the top
> notch guys actually don't take your money up front any more (since the
> Chelton/D2A debacle that cost people dearly). Anyway, it's not all that
> uncommon to use some sort of escrow service, but in the end you'll find
> that
> it's not cheap - the fees can be quite high. The better deal is to order
> your avionics from someone who won't charge you until they are ready to
> ship...which there are a number of shops that do business that way.
>
> My 2 cents as usual.
>
> Cheers,
> Stein
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jay Brinkmeyer
>>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:46 AM
>>To: RV10
>>Subject: RV10-List: avionics escrow
>>
>>
>>
>>Given the current state of the economy and recent experiences of
>>Direct2 and several other vendors doing the old take the money and
>>run ploy... I'm not about to risk many thousands of dollars to any
>>seller without participation of a known quantity third party.
>>
>>I've searched through the archives and have read up on chatter
>>regarding escrow for avionics purchases. Has anyone actually used
>>escrow for avionics transactions out there? AOPA would seem to be
>>a good first choice (I'll check). I've also seen Escrow.com
>>mentioned, but anything with a .com in the name has me nervous.
>>Maybe there are other well known escrow outfits to consider?
>>
>>Wish I would have done this previously for both my engine and
>>prop. The engine transaction fortunately worked out okay, but the
>>my first (used) prop purchase did not and I got to buy it twice.
>>Get it in writing and never trust that a mechanic has done AD
>>homework for you. Lesson learned and school's out.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Buying by credit card is in effect an escrow account. The card is billed and
the material is supposed to be shipped. If the time between payment and
delivery is short., the charge can be denied by the buyer for non delivery
or poor workmanship. If the time between purchase and delivery is large then
rejecting the charge becomes a little more difficult by the buyer. There is
also a fee involved . The supplier adds (stated or unstated) to the cost of
the transaction to cover the service fee from the credit card company.
Protect yourself as litigation is not the answer. Just ask someone who has
pursued litigation across state or worse country boundaries. IIRC there is
someone who is still pursuing an engine supplier across the northern border;
they may eventually get pennies on the dollar.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gwirrell@aerotronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:02 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: avionics escrow
>If I can put my 2 cents in as well, we all understand and are concerned
about what is happening with our money today. I agree with Stein thats it's
important to find a respected avionics shop. My concern would be that if you
are uncomfortable with the shop you are working with ( to a point of having
to have an escrow account ) I would also be concerned about the quality of
services you might receive. I guess what Im trying to say is that the money
is important ( and the top shops understand that
) but don't overlook the history and strength of the company you choose to
work with as well.
Gary
>
> That's a pretty easy thing to do, and in fact something that shops
> have done in the past. I know we've done that more than once. However,
> if you find yourself a good and well respected avionics shop, you'll
> find that the top notch guys actually don't take your money up front
> any more (since the Chelton/D2A debacle that cost people dearly).
> Anyway, it's not all that uncommon to use some sort of escrow service,
> but in the end you'll find that it's not cheap - the fees can be quite
> high. The better deal is to order your avionics from someone who
> won't charge you until they are ready to ship...which there are a
> number of shops that do business that way.
>
> My 2 cents as usual.
>
> Cheers,
> Stein
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jay
>>Brinkmeyer
>>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:46 AM
>>To: RV10
>>Subject: RV10-List: avionics escrow
>>
>>
>>--> <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>>
>>Given the current state of the economy and recent experiences of
>>Direct2 and several other vendors doing the old take the money and run
>>ploy... I'm not about to risk many thousands of dollars to any seller
>>without participation of a known quantity third party.
>>
>>I've searched through the archives and have read up on chatter
>>regarding escrow for avionics purchases. Has anyone actually used
>>escrow for avionics transactions out there? AOPA would seem to be a
>>good first choice (I'll check). I've also seen Escrow.com mentioned,
>>but anything with a .com in the name has me nervous.
>>Maybe there are other well known escrow outfits to consider?
>>
>>Wish I would have done this previously for both my engine and prop.
>>The engine transaction fortunately worked out okay, but the my first
>>(used) prop purchase did not and I got to buy it twice.
>>Get it in writing and never trust that a mechanic has done AD homework
>>for you. Lesson learned and school's out.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any responses.
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Installed the oil scat tube air controller by www.nonstopaviation.com. Very nicely made product at a very reasonable price. Cruising around at 55% power even with only moderate temps--50'sF--with the larger oil cooler and louvers, only could get 152 oil temp. closed the air controller, and very quickly got 40+ degree jump. With the larger oil cooler and louvers the summer issue is fixed, and this controller seems to have fixed the winter issue. easier to do while building, but not hard as after market product. good product support also. lbb
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Larry and Gayle N104LG
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=216064#216064
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Dave, can you tell me what source you use for the Silpruf SCS2000? I'd like
to get some for the GlaStar. Aircraft Spruce doesn't seem to carry it. I'm
hoping it's something one can get locally, although I didn't see it
referenced at Home Depot. Nor did a Google search have a source in
Portland, OR. I suppose GlaStar has it, but they over charge.
John
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John,
If you are looking for black I have four tubes...
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:39:02 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Silpruf
Dave, can you tell me what source you use for the Silpruf SCS2000?=C2- I'
d like to get some for the GlaStar.=C2- Aircraft Spruce doesn't seem to c
arry it.=C2- I'm hoping it's something one can get locally, although I di
dn't see it referenced at Home Depot.=C2- Nor did a Google search have a
source in Portland, OR.=C2- I suppose GlaStar has it, but they over charg
e.=C2-
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Whoops, my apologies to the list. Thought I was sending directly to Dave
Saylor. Rick, thanks. Black would do nicely. One tube is all I think I
need. Lemme know how much to send for tube and shipping.
John J
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> If you are looking for black I have four tubes...
>
> Rick S.
>
> 40185
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:39:02 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: RV10-List: Silpruf
>
> Dave, can you tell me what source you use for the Silpruf SCS2000? I'd
> like to get some for the GlaStar. Aircraft Spruce doesn't seem to carry
> it. I'm hoping it's something one can get locally, although I didn't see it
> referenced at Home Depot. Nor did a Google search have a source in
> Portland, OR. I suppose GlaStar has it, but they over charge.
>
> John
>
> *
> *
>
> *
>
>
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I have never used the stuff; we always used vinyl ester resin and catalyst.
even the windows are glassed in with a combo of catlyzed resin, chopped
fiber and cabosil. they edges were layered with two strips of E-glass cut on
a 45 bias. On what are you using it?
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Silpruf
Dave, can you tell me what source you use for the Silpruf SCS2000? I'd like
to get some for the GlaStar. Aircraft Spruce doesn't seem to carry it. I'm
hoping it's something one can get locally, although I didn't see it
referenced at Home Depot. Nor did a Google search have a source in
Portland, OR. I suppose GlaStar has it, but they over charge.
John
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Sorry about the reply; this was a reply to the GLASTAR message.Used West
system expoxy, chpped fiber and cabosil on the 10.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Silpruf
I have never used the stuff; we always used vinyl ester resin and catalyst.
even the windows are glassed in with a combo of catlyzed resin, chopped
fiber and cabosil. they edges were layered with two strips of E-glass cut on
a 45 bias. On what are you using it?
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Silpruf
Dave, can you tell me what source you use for the Silpruf SCS2000? I'd like
to get some for the GlaStar. Aircraft Spruce doesn't seem to carry it. I'm
hoping it's something one can get locally, although I didn't see it
referenced at Home Depot. Nor did a Google search have a source in
Portland, OR. I suppose GlaStar has it, but they over charge.
John
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| Subject: | seal around the airvents |
What kind of seal material has been used between air vent (metal) and the
plastic air intake funnel. Rain drips in during flight.Considered proseal or
silicone but wanted a way to remove vent without damage to the plastic.
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| Subject: | Tony Bengelis Award for 2008 |
The EAA is again opening nominations for the late Tony Bengelis Annual
Award. As I did last year (2007), I will nominate Tim Olson for his
tireless and deep commitment to the Experimental Aircraft community
since beginning his RV-10 #170. Tim has been relentless in pursuit of
safer Amateur Built Aircraft, his contributions continue to be
invaluable and a constant resource. He has been a major player at
every juncture of our kit build challenge. Any of you that agree can
Give the submittal about one week before any additional supporting
comments to the EAA. To Tim, it Didn't matter if it was being the
mediator in the D2A fiasco on Christmas Eve, parking the scores of
RV-10s at OSH, overhauling the Unison/Slick Mags or showing how a family
can build a project together. It was just last Saturday that Bob
Condrey reminded me of Tim's contribution to silkscreen instrument
panels on the kitchen table. Tim embodies the same characteristics of
Tony. Someday I dream that I can buy a book for a future Young Eagle,
the definitive book authored by Tim on how to build a 21st Century
Amateur Built Airplane at your own home.
Our group has been lucky that Tim encouraged us to migrate from Yahoo
over to this Sharing Forum that Matt provides. Dan Lloyd #269 and I
both enjoyed our discussions and assistance from Tim.
John Cox
EAA Tech Counselor #5242
RV-10 builder #600
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