---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/02/08: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:59 AM - Re: removal from list.... (Albert Gardner) 2. 05:49 AM - Re: Avionics Interconnect (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 3. 06:03 AM - Re: Avionics Interconnect (Dave Leikam) 4. 06:26 AM - Re: Seat Belts (lbgjb10) 5. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: Seat Belts (David McNeill) 6. 06:52 AM - Re: removal from list.... (pascal) 7. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: Seat Belts (Deems Davis) 8. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Seat Belts (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 9. 07:04 AM - Re: Avionics Interconnect (Jim) 10. 07:23 AM - Cabin Door Struts (rv8grover@verizon.net) 11. 08:22 AM - Re: removal from list.... (bminzel) 12. 08:39 AM - Re: removal from list.... (Deems Davis) 13. 09:35 AM - Builders near San Francisco (Lee Otto) 14. 02:27 PM - Re: Cabin Door Struts (greghale) 15. 02:34 PM - Emailing: IMG_0197, IMG_0198, IMG_0199, IMG_0200, IMG_0196 (David McNeill) 16. 02:56 PM - Re: Emailing: IMG_0197, IMG_0198, IMG_0199, IMG_0200, IMG_0196 (Rene Felker) 17. 04:52 PM - Re: unbelievable!!! (docrw) 18. 06:11 PM - 3M flap anti chafe tape (Deems Davis) 19. 06:32 PM - Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape (gary) 20. 09:03 PM - Humor (McGANN, Ron) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:33 AM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RE: RV10-List: removal from list.... At the bottom of each message is a link to the Navigator for all that stuff Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bminzel Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:11 PM Subject: Fw: RV10-List: removal from list.... --- On Mon, 12/1/08, bminzel wrote: From: bminzel Subject: RV10-List: removal from list.... Hi, How do I get myself removed from this email list? I'm getting too many daily and would prefer to just check the website periodically. Thank you for your help. Barbara Minzel bminzel@yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:13 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Avionics Interconnect Did anyone else see the RV-10 when they stared at it out of focus? Heh Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: RV10-List: Avionics Interconnect I have attached my avionics interconnect spreadsheet. It does not include the connections to lights, engine but does include the interface between th e EFIS, NAVCOM, Transponder, audio panel and GPS. I used this to build a h arness for the stack. It may be of some use to others. My configuration is: EFIS -> Advanced Flight Systems AF3500 EE NavCom -> Garmin SL-30 Transponder -> Garmin 327 GPS -> Serial BR-355 Audio -> PS8000B Jim Combs N312F - 40192 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:43 AM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Avionics Interconnect Have another cup of coffee... things will clear right up. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Avionics Interconnect Did anyone else see the RV-10 when they stared at it out of focus? Heh Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:49 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Avionics Interconnect I have attached my avionics interconnect spreadsheet. It does not include the connections to lights, engine but does include the interface between the EFIS, NAVCOM, Transponder, audio panel and GPS. I used this to build a harness for the stack. It may be of some use to others. My configuration is: EFIS -> Advanced Flight Systems AF3500 EE NavCom -> Garmin SL-30 Transponder -> Garmin 327 GPS -> Serial BR-355 Audio -> PS8000B Jim Combs N312F - 40192 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:50 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Seat Belts From: "lbgjb10" how difficult is it to 'retro' fit inertial reels to front seats on flying plane??lbb -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217319#217319 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:44 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Seat Belts If you look at the procedures on www.inertialbelts.com, you will need to create the four hardpoints each belt from the outside of the lid. We used a cutter inside to cut the inner glass and remove the foam; then we reinforced the lid with additional layers of glass. This would have to be accomplished from the outside. If you wish to discuss how to do this, give me a call 480-626-4048. Obviously this will create some need for re paint if the paint is already on the aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lbgjb10 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:26 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Seat Belts how difficult is it to 'retro' fit inertial reels to front seats on flying plane??lbb -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217319#217319 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:44 AM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: removal from list.... If you look at the bottom of each message there is a way to make changes: The RV10-List Email Forum - Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much much more: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List From: bminzel Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Fw: RV10-List: removal from list.... --- On Mon, 12/1/08, bminzel wrote: From: bminzel Subject: RV10-List: removal from list.... To: rv10-list@matronics.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 8:53 PM Hi, How do I get myself removed from this email list? I'm getting too many daily and would prefer to just check the website periodically. Thank you for your help. Barbara Minzel bminzel@yahoo.com 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:52 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Seat Belts Hooker Harness makes an inertial real that mounts with a single bolt, it does require a bushing to adapt to Van's bolt/screw, but they can supply: http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2049%20Seats%20&%20Seat%20Belts/slides/DSC06413.html http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2049%20Seats%20&%20Seat%20Belts/slides/DSC06415.html Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ lbgjb10 wrote: > > how difficult is it to 'retro' fit inertial reels to front seats on flying plane??lbb > > -------- > Larry and Gayle N104LG > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217319#217319 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:48 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Seat Belts You will probably have to send in your existing belts to have the reels put on if the original manufacturer offers them. That's assuming there is enough slack to use reels. If you have Hooker belts right now the easiest thing to do would be to order the same belts again but with the reels this time and then sell your existing belts. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lbgjb10 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:26 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Seat Belts how difficult is it to 'retro' fit inertial reels to front seats on flying plane??lbb -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217319#217319 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Avionics Interconnect From: "Jim" Actually if you print it, It is much easier to read. I have it sized to fit on two sheets. The first sheet is the interfaces to the EFIS, NAVCOM, Transponder and Audio panel. The second sheet is pretty much all the audio to the headset connectors. Jim C > Have another cup of coffee... things will clear right up. > > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:57 PM > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Avionics Interconnect > > > Did anyone else see the RV-10 when they stared at it out of focus? Heh > > > > Do not archive > > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:49 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Avionics Interconnect > > > > I have attached my avionics interconnect spreadsheet. It does not > include the connections to lights, engine but does include the interface > between the EFIS, NAVCOM, Transponder, audio panel and GPS. I used this > to build a harness for the stack. > > It may be of some use to others. > > My configuration is: > > EFIS -> Advanced Flight Systems AF3500 EE > NavCom -> Garmin SL-30 > Transponder -> Garmin 327 > GPS -> Serial BR-355 > Audio -> PS8000B > > Jim Combs > N312F - 40192 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:42 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Cabin Door Struts From: "rv8grover@verizon.net" After I added some interior to the cabin doors they would constantly fall down. I found an replacement for the gas strut that Van's supplies that has 600 newtons force instead of the 500 newtons force with the van's strut. They were more expensive but it was worth it not to be hit in the head by the doors. They are Lift-o-Mat 2218LP made by Stabilus. I found them at JWF Technologies, 6820 Fairfield Business Drive, Fairfield. OH 45014. www.JWFtechnologies.com Ron Grover 40063 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217333#217333 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:34 AM PST US From: bminzel Subject: Re: RV10-List: removal from list.... I didn't find the link to be helpful in removing me from e-mails from the w ebsite. It just gave me-a list of the lists. When I tried the one list I thought could be the one I was on I just got an e-mail address. Type Remove to it? --- On Tue, 12/2/08, pascal wrote: From: pascal Subject: Re: RV10-List: removal from list.... If you look at the bottom of each message there is a way to make changes: -The RV10-List Email Forum - -Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse-the many List util ities such as List Un/Subscription, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse , Chat, FAQ, -Photoshare, and much much more: http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?RV10-List - From: bminzel Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Fw: RV10-List: removal from list.... --- On Mon, 12/1/08, bminzel wrote: From: bminzel Subject: RV10-List: removal from list.... Hi, - How do I get myself removed from this email list? I'm getting too many dail y and would prefer to just check the website periodically. - Thank you for your help. - Barbara Minzel bminzel@yahoo.com - 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com /contribution 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"'>http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RV10-List 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:21 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: removal from list.... Here's the link to the page you need. http://www.matronics.com/subscribe/ Just follow the instructions on the page. Deems Do Not Archive bminzel wrote: > I didn't find the link to be helpful in removing me from e-mails from > the website. > It just gave me a list of the lists. When I tried the one list I > thought could be the one I was on I just got an e-mail address. Type > Remove to it? > > > --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, pascal //* wrote: > > From: pascal > Subject: Re: RV10-List: removal from list.... > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:52 AM > > If you look at the bottom of each message there is a way to make > changes: > * The RV10-List Email Forum - > Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse the many List > utilities such as List Un/Subscription, Archive Search & Download, > 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much much more: > **http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > > *From:* bminzel > *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2008 9:10 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Fw: RV10-List: removal from list.... > > > --- On *Mon, 12/1/08, bminzel / >/* wrote: > > From: bminzel > > Subject: RV10-List: removal from list.... > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 8:53 PM > > Hi, > > How do I get myself removed from this email list? I'm getting > too many daily and would prefer to just check the website > periodically. > > Thank you for your help. > > Barbara Minzel > bminzel@yahoo.com > > > * > > * > > * > > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com > 3D============================================ > * > > * > > * > > * > > * ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:14 AM PST US From: "Lee Otto" Subject: RV10-List: Builders near San Francisco I'm going to be at Fort Mason near Fisherman's Warf in San Francisco this Saturday and Sunday and I was thinking some of you RV-10 builders in the Bay Area might be open for a visit from a fellow builder. I'll be helping my wife set up for a show of her photography there and then I'm free for what looks like most of the weekend. Thanks. Lee Otto Visalia, CA Builder 40773 working on baggage door and cabin floors. lotto@ciembroidery.com (559) 651-8022 day time phone ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:10 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Cabin Door Struts From: "greghale" Ron, I had the same problem with my door struts. I found the company Vans used for their struts -- Dean Lewis assoc. I had them special order a stronger set for me. I think they are 600 newtons. I had to pay $75.00. They should be in by the end of the month. I am curious what you had to pay for the struts you got. Greg... -------- Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH www.nwacaptain.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217398#217398 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:17 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: Emailing: IMG_0197, IMG_0198, IMG_0199, IMG_0200, IMG_0196 I received a couple of emails about the inertial belts so I took some pictures. (1) the rollers have covers that snap on and could be painted. (2) I have two small children so created a velcro loop that will catch them across the chest and prevent upper body from coming forward between the belts. (3) One picture show the external SS screw pattern and CS SS washers that spread the load on the belts. The consulting ME (a neighbor) indicates that the additional hardpoints and CS washers should be 8-10 times as strong as the Vans (single CS #5 screw without CS washer) in a crash. (4) there are a couple of shots that show the buckle options. If it looks like the Boeing stuff ; it is. AMSAFE has that contract. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:00 PM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Emailing: IMG_0197, IMG_0198, IMG_0199, IMG_0200, IMG_0196 I covered my plastic covers with headliner material. Worked great. Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: RV10-List: Emailing: IMG_0197, IMG_0198, IMG_0199, IMG_0200, IMG_0196 I received a couple of emails about the inertial belts so I took some pictures. (1) the rollers have covers that snap on and could be painted. (2) I have two small children so created a velcro loop that will catch them across the chest and prevent upper body from coming forward between the belts. (3) One picture show the external SS screw pattern and CS SS washers that spread the load on the belts. The consulting ME (a neighbor) indicates that the additional hardpoints and CS washers should be 8-10 times as strong as the Vans (single CS #5 screw without CS washer) in a crash. (4) there are a couple of shots that show the buckle options. If it looks like the Boeing stuff ; it is. AMSAFE has that contract. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:09 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: unbelievable!!! From: "docrw" Hi Guys, I found this forum on the net today which mentioned me buying this RV-10, which by the way never happened. What happened is I was looking at it and back paged and there was a glitch and it ended up doing a BIN. I worked it out with the seller and all was resolved. So put it to rest that nobody bought the plane for $100K with a V-8 engine in it, and I hope no one was that silly to try it. David Hiatt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217417#217417 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:11:08 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: RV10-List: 3M flap anti chafe tape I was given some of the above from a friend, and intend to apply it to the underside of the wing trailing edge to protect the paint on the flaps. My question is: Just how sticky is the adhesive supposed to be? I've got and followed the printed instruction from 3M on a 'wet' application, and applied a 10" test piece tonight and will check it in the morning, But to my mind this stuff peels off too easily. For those of you that have applied this, is this something that you should be able to peel off without a lot of force, or is this something that should stick like the foam double sided tape? Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:37 PM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: 3M flap anti chafe tape I have never applied it wet, but it should stick like foam tape does. Gary Specketer -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: RV10-List: 3M flap anti chafe tape I was given some of the above from a friend, and intend to apply it to the underside of the wing trailing edge to protect the paint on the flaps. My question is: Just how sticky is the adhesive supposed to be? I've got and followed the printed instruction from 3M on a 'wet' application, and applied a 10" test piece tonight and will check it in the morning, But to my mind this stuff peels off too easily. For those of you that have applied this, is this something that you should be able to peel off without a lot of force, or is this something that should stick like the foam double sided tape? Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:29 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Humor From: "McGANN, Ron" How many can relate to this?? "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. 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