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1. 04:44 AM - Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 06:27 AM - Re: Avionics Interconnect (Lew Gallagher)
3. 07:19 AM - Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape (Deems Davis)
4. 01:09 PM - Re: Humor (tomhanaway)
5. 02:01 PM - Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape - update (Deems Davis)
6. 02:17 PM - Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape - update (Tim Olson)
7. 02:26 PM - Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape - update (dogsbark@comcast.net)
8. 02:30 PM - Access under front seats (McGANN, Ron)
9. 02:56 PM - Re: Access under front seats (Fred Williams, M.D.)
10. 03:04 PM - Re: Access under front seats (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
11. 06:04 PM - Re: Access under front seats (DejaVu)
12. 06:13 PM - doors (David McNeill)
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| Subject: | 3M flap anti chafe tape |
I'm assuming that when you say wet, you mean like how they apply things like
window tinting where you spray a slightly soapy water to help position it. If
that's the case I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a couple weeks for all the
water to evaporate out allowing the adhesive to really grab.
I didn't sleep at a HI Express last night so that's just a SWAG.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: 3M flap anti chafe tape
I was given some of the above from a friend, and intend to apply it to
the underside of the wing trailing edge to protect the paint on the
flaps. My question is:
Just how sticky is the adhesive supposed to be? I've got and followed
the printed instruction from 3M on a 'wet' application, and applied a
10" test piece tonight and will check it in the morning, But to my mind
this stuff peels off too easily.
For those of you that have applied this, is this something that you
should be able to peel off without a lot of force, or is this something
that should stick like the foam double sided tape?
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics Interconnect |
Hey Jim,
Thanks for the print out tip -- I have to admit, I was one of those who opened
the file, my vision glazed over, and I filed it away in case I needed it later.
Now, printed out, it is much easier.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Prop is on, cowl almost finished, paint prep!
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| Subject: | Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape |
Yeah, they recommend a solution of 75% water 25% Iso Prop Alcohol and 4
drops of detergent then squeege the water out and let set overnight.
I'll run the 'peel test' today.
Deems
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>
> I'm assuming that when you say wet, you mean like how they apply things like
window tinting where you spray a slightly soapy water to help position it.
If that's the case I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a couple weeks for all
the water to evaporate out allowing the adhesive to really grab.
>
> I didn't sleep at a HI Express last night so that's just a SWAG.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:10 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: 3M flap anti chafe tape
>
>
> I was given some of the above from a friend, and intend to apply it to
> the underside of the wing trailing edge to protect the paint on the
> flaps. My question is:
> Just how sticky is the adhesive supposed to be? I've got and followed
> the printed instruction from 3M on a 'wet' application, and applied a
> 10" test piece tonight and will check it in the morning, But to my mind
> this stuff peels off too easily.
> For those of you that have applied this, is this something that you
> should be able to peel off without a lot of force, or is this something
> that should stick like the foam double sided tape?
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
>
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Hi Ron,
I really got a kick out of that tee shirt. Did you happen to get a source? Id
love to order a few for Christmas presents.
Thanks in advance,
Tom Hanaway
Boynton Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape - update |
I thought I'd post the results of the overnight test. I applied a 10" x
1" piece of the 3M tape using the 'wet' method. Let it 'cure' overnight
and today I peeled it off ........ along with some of the clear coat and
the base coat !!!!!
So. conclusion, although the tape itself when you peel off the backing
paper doesn't feel super sticky to the finger touch. If applied
following the instructions it appears it has plenty of adhesion
strength!!!!!
Thanks for the feedback from others
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape - update |
Is that tape supposed to be an "install once, never replace" tape,
or what do they market it like? Do they have a removal method
that wouldn't do that?
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> I thought I'd post the results of the overnight test. I applied a 10" x
> 1" piece of the 3M tape using the 'wet' method. Let it 'cure' overnight
> and today I peeled it off ........ along with some of the clear coat and
> the base coat !!!!!
> So. conclusion, although the tape itself when you peel off the backing
> paper doesn't feel super sticky to the finger touch. If applied
> following the instructions it appears it has plenty of adhesion
> strength!!!!!
>
> Thanks for the feedback from others
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 3M flap anti chafe tape - update |
....maybe a heat gun=C2-on low setting?
Sean Blair
#40225
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 3:17:00 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3M flap anti chafe tape - update
Is that tape supposed to be an "install once, never replace" tape,
or what do they market it like? =C2-Do they have a removal method
that wouldn't do that?
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> I thought I'd post the results of the overnight test. I applied a 10" x
> 1" piece of the 3M tape using the 'wet' method. Let it 'cure' overnight
> and today I peeled it off ........ along with some of the clear coat and
> the base coat !!!!!
> So. conclusion, although the tape itself when you peel off the backing
> paper doesn't feel super sticky to the finger touch. If applied
> following the instructions it appears it has plenty of adhesion
> strength!!!!!
>
> Thanks for the feedback from others
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>
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| Subject: | Access under front seats |
G'day all,
Painting is finished, so I am in the process of final tidy up in the
cabin. I really just need to finish wiring the sticks and install the
seats. I have a terminal block located under the front seats to connect
the stick wiring to. Can someone please advise what access is available
to the under seat area once the seats are installed? Eg do the seats
slide all the way back to provide access to the under seat area, or do
you need to remove the seats completely to gain access to the area under
the seat pans?
Thanks in advance
Ron
-187 maybe the BEST Xmas present ever???
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| Subject: | Re: Access under front seats |
Ron;
I've had to take the flap cover off before I could try to remove the
seats. Haven't tried to get to the back screws of the cover plate yet
with the seat in place. You might be able to slide the seats back and
forth to get to the individual screws and then get access. Either way,
it only takes a couple minutes to pull the flap cover screws to get the
seat out of your way. You can go ahead and install the seat rails
without any problem.
Hope this helps.
Dr Fred.
McGANN, Ron wrote:
>
> G'day all,
>
> Painting is finished, so I am in the process of final tidy up in the
> cabin. I really just need to finish wiring the sticks and install the
> seats. I have a terminal block located under the front seats to
> connect the stick wiring to. Can someone please advise what access is
> available to the under seat area once the seats are installed? Eg do
> the seats slide all the way back to provide access to the under seat
> area, or do you need to remove the seats completely to gain access to
> the area under the seat pans?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ron
> -187 maybe the BEST Xmas present ever???
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| Subject: | Access under front seats |
Another technique is to cut down the front part of the nylon (or
whatever material it is) slides by about 3/4". This then allows the
seats to be tilted up and will clear the flap tube covers.
Bob
N442PM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred
Williams, M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Access under front seats
<drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
Ron;
I've had to take the flap cover off before I could try to remove the
seats. Haven't tried to get to the back screws of the cover plate yet
with the seat in place. You might be able to slide the seats back and
forth to get to the individual screws and then get access. Either way,
it only takes a couple minutes to pull the flap cover screws to get the
seat out of your way. You can go ahead and install the seat rails
without any problem.
Hope this helps.
Dr Fred.
McGANN, Ron wrote:
>
> G'day all,
>
> Painting is finished, so I am in the process of final tidy up in the
> cabin. I really just need to finish wiring the sticks and install the
> seats. I have a terminal block located under the front seats to
> connect the stick wiring to. Can someone please advise what access is
> available to the under seat area once the seats are installed? Eg do
> the seats slide all the way back to provide access to the under seat
> area, or do you need to remove the seats completely to gain access to
> the area under the seat pans?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ron
> -187 maybe the BEST Xmas present ever???
>
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| Subject: | Re: Access under front seats |
You can't slide the seats back far enough without taking the side handles
off. Once those handles come off you might as well take the seats off.
Anh
N591VU-flying
> G'day all,
>
> Painting is finished, so I am in the process of final tidy up in the
> cabin. I really just need to finish wiring the sticks and install the
> seats. I have a terminal block located under the front seats to connect
> the stick wiring to. Can someone please advise what access is available
> to the under seat area once the seats are installed? Eg do the seats
> slide all the way back to provide access to the under seat area, or do
> you need to remove the seats completely to gain access to the area under
> the seat pans?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ron
> -187 maybe the BEST Xmas present ever???
>
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> taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free,
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We are not alone. Just read the accident report for yesterday. A DA42 lost a
door in flight yesterday at Casa Grande AZ. No indication of the response of
the flight instructor or foreign student.
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