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1. 04:47 AM - Wing assembly order (Bob Leffler)
2. 05:47 AM - Re: Wing assembly order (Jim)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Wing assembly order (PJ Seipel)
4. 05:53 AM - Re: Wing assembly order (DejaVu)
5. 06:07 AM - Re: Wing assembly order (Tim Olson)
6. 03:38 PM - Here's what's going on in Las Vegas (Chris Hukill)
7. 07:20 PM - Re: Here's what's going on in Las Vegas (Roger Standley)
8. 08:27 PM - Re: Here's what's going on in Las Vegas (pascal)
9. 11:04 PM - Updated Web Site (John Jessen)
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| Subject: | Wing assembly order |
The Van's assembly order for the wings has the bottom skins going on before
you work on the aileron and flap actuation controls. I'm assuming that
there is no problem keeping the bottom skins off until these steps are
completed. It seems to me that it would a whole lot easier working on these
last couple of steps without the skins instead on working through the access
panels.
For those that did this, how long did you leave you bottom skins off?
I've got a pretty good idea on what I need to put into the wings, so I'm not
overly concerned about having to go back into them later. I also have a
conduit pulled, so adding wiring later shouldn't be a big deal. I'm
debating about whether or not to close them up now or wait until just before
mounting the wings.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Bob
#40684
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| Subject: | Re: Wing assembly order |
I would suggest following the order per the plans. I encountered no
problems following the plans / Vans order. Also, you will not risk
the possibility of creating a new problem because of order. Just my
2 cents worth.
Remember - If it's not broken, don't try and
fix it.
There are way too many other things that you will need
to focus on.
Jim Combs
N312F, 40192 - DAR inspection this
week - Darned COLD here too!
Do Not Archive
> The
Van's assembly order for the wings has the bottom skins going on
>
before you work on the aileron and flap actuation controls. I'm assuming
that
> there is no problem keeping the bottom skins off until
these steps are
> completed. It seems to me that it would a whole
lot easier working on
> these last couple of steps without the
skins instead on working through the
> access panels.
>
>
>
> For those that did this, how long did you
leave you bottom skins off?
>
>
>
>
I've got a pretty good idea on what I need to put into the wings, so
I'm
> not
> overly concerned about having to go back into
them later. I also have a
> conduit pulled, so adding wiring
later shouldn't be a big deal. I'm
> debating about whether or
not to close them up now or wait until just
> before
>
mounting the wings.
>
>
>
> Thanks in
advance for your comments.
>
>
>
>
Bob
>
> #40684
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing assembly order |
I thought as you did. So I installed the controls. And ended up taking
most of them back out in order to be able to buck the bottom skins
without having them in the way. In hindsight, it worked out because I
was able to get all of the controls pretty much fit and adjusted with
lots of access, and then putting them back in once the bottom skins were
on wasn't that difficult.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> The Vans assembly order for the wings has the bottom skins going on
> before you work on the aileron and flap actuation controls. Im
> assuming that there is no problem keeping the bottom skins off until
> these steps are completed. It seems to me that it would a whole lot
> easier working on these last couple of steps without the skins instead
> on working through the access panels.
>
> For those that did this, how long did you leave you bottom skins off?
>
> Ive got a pretty good idea on what I need to put into the wings, so
> Im not overly concerned about having to go back into them later. I
> also have a conduit pulled, so adding wiring later shouldnt be a big
> deal. Im debating about whether or not to close them up now or wait
> until just before mounting the wings.
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>
> Bob
>
> #40684
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing assembly order |
Bob, I followed the instructions and closed them. I don't see a problem
either way. The control tubes would have to come off later because they
will get in the way of riveting the bottom skins.
Anh
N591VU-flying
> The Van's assembly order for the wings has the bottom skins going on
> before
> you work on the aileron and flap actuation controls. I'm assuming that
> there is no problem keeping the bottom skins off until these steps are
> completed. It seems to me that it would a whole lot easier working on
> these
> last couple of steps without the skins instead on working through the
> access
> panels.
>
>
> For those that did this, how long did you leave you bottom skins off?
>
>
> I've got a pretty good idea on what I need to put into the wings, so I'm
> not
> overly concerned about having to go back into them later. I also have a
> conduit pulled, so adding wiring later shouldn't be a big deal. I'm
> debating about whether or not to close them up now or wait until just
> before
> mounting the wings.
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>
>
> Bob
>
> #40684
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing assembly order |
As others have said, it's maybe easier to fit them before the skins
are on, but you'll end up taking them out anyway. Not a big deal.
The Aileron Trim though, that you end up having to wait until the
skins are on, since the servo mounts on an access plate. So you
can get the control rods built, and assemble the bellcranks, but
I wouldn't finish the assembly to make it all function...you'll
want to re-adjust and do all that when the wings are mounted on the
fuselage anyway.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Bob Leffler wrote:
> The Vans assembly order for the wings has the bottom skins going on
> before you work on the aileron and flap actuation controls. Im
> assuming that there is no problem keeping the bottom skins off until
> these steps are completed. It seems to me that it would a whole lot
> easier working on these last couple of steps without the skins instead
> on working through the access panels.
>
>
>
> For those that did this, how long did you leave you bottom skins off?
>
>
>
> Ive got a pretty good idea on what I need to put into the wings, so Im
> not overly concerned about having to go back into them later. I also
> have a conduit pulled, so adding wiring later shouldnt be a big deal.
> Im debating about whether or not to close them up now or wait until
> just before mounting the wings.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
> #40684
>
> *
>
> *
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| Subject: | Here's what's going on in Las Vegas |
This Director of aviation for Clark County is trying to prohibit
experimental aircraft operations at North Las Vegas
Randy Walker has succeeded in gaining approval of a proposal to give him
local control over who can fly at Las Vegas Valley airports under his
control. The request was swallowed hook line and sinker by an
uninformed County Commission. Next step is to take this to Congress
through our Nevada Congressional delegation.
Where will it end? Given the state of the country and the very pressing
issues facing the new administration ask yourself could this lunatic
request slip through the cracks and gain approval? Think of the
consequences if every local governmental or airport agency could decide
to set up its' own set of rules. Walker only views his interests and
clearly has demonstrated a lack of understanding as to the needs of a
coordinated and safe air traffic system. By his proposal, which the
County Commission so blindly approved, Walker has clearly overstepped
all boundaries of common sense. His plan replaces good proven practices
with chaos affecting the entire national air traffic system.
Walker's proposal has wide ranging effects (or the proverbial unintended
consequences) which:
=B7 Threaten all experimental aircraft builders and owners.
=B7 Impact private aircraft owners of every type.
=B7 Limit every instructor and every student pilot.
=B7 Involve every pilot, mechanic and aviation business related
individual.
=B7 Impact all aspects of General Aviation.
=B7 Reduce safety and standardization.
=B7 Result in destabilization of revenue and general aviation
related commerce to the community.
In short it threatens you and your hard earned right to freedom of
flight in a safe and orderly environment.
STOP ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF GENERAL AVIATION
-----------------
ATTEND A MEETING OF THE CLARK COUNTY AVIATION ASSOCIATION
6:30 PM DECEMBER 17TH
GRAND CANYON ROOM, NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT
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| Subject: | Re: Here's what's going on in Las Vegas |
Sounds like AOPA needs to become involved. Also, the EAA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hukill<mailto:cjhukill@cox.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Here's what's going on in Las Vegas
This Director of aviation for Clark County is trying to prohibit
experimental aircraft operations at North Las Vegas
Randy Walker has succeeded in gaining approval of a proposal to give
him local control over who can fly at Las Vegas Valley airports under
his control. The request was swallowed hook line and sinker by an
uninformed County Commission. Next step is to take this to Congress
through our Nevada Congressional delegation.
Where will it end? Given the state of the country and the very
pressing issues facing the new administration ask yourself could this
lunatic request slip through the cracks and gain approval? Think of the
consequences if every local governmental or airport agency could decide
to set up its' own set of rules. Walker only views his interests and
clearly has demonstrated a lack of understanding as to the needs of a
coordinated and safe air traffic system. By his proposal, which the
County Commission so blindly approved, Walker has clearly overstepped
all boundaries of common sense. His plan replaces good proven practices
with chaos affecting the entire national air traffic system.
Walker's proposal has wide ranging effects (or the proverbial
unintended consequences) which:
=B7 Threaten all experimental aircraft builders and owners.
=B7 Impact private aircraft owners of every type.
=B7 Limit every instructor and every student pilot.
=B7 Involve every pilot, mechanic and aviation business related
individual.
=B7 Impact all aspects of General Aviation.
=B7 Reduce safety and standardization.
=B7 Result in destabilization of revenue and general aviation
related commerce to the community.
In short it threatens you and your hard earned right to freedom of
flight in a safe and orderly environment.
STOP ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF GENERAL AVIATION
-----------------
ATTEND A MEETING OF THE CLARK COUNTY AVIATION ASSOCIATION
6:30 PM DECEMBER 17TH
GRAND CANYON ROOM, NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT
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| Subject: | Re: Here's what's going on in Las Vegas |
Already are:
http://www.eaa.org/ehotline/issues/081205.html
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/region/2008/081204nlv.html
From: Roger Standley
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Here's what's going on in Las Vegas
Sounds like AOPA needs to become involved. Also, the EAA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hukill
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Here's what's going on in Las Vegas
This Director of aviation for Clark County is trying to prohibit
experimental aircraft operations at North Las Vegas
Randy Walker has succeeded in gaining approval of a proposal to give
him local control over who can fly at Las Vegas Valley airports under
his control. The request was swallowed hook line and sinker by an
uninformed County Commission. Next step is to take this to Congress
through our Nevada Congressional delegation.
Where will it end? Given the state of the country and the very
pressing issues facing the new administration ask yourself could this
lunatic request slip through the cracks and gain approval? Think of the
consequences if every local governmental or airport agency could decide
to set up its' own set of rules. Walker only views his interests and
clearly has demonstrated a lack of understanding as to the needs of a
coordinated and safe air traffic system. By his proposal, which the
County Commission so blindly approved, Walker has clearly overstepped
all boundaries of common sense. His plan replaces good proven practices
with chaos affecting the entire national air traffic system.
Walker's proposal has wide ranging effects (or the proverbial
unintended consequences) which:
=B7 Threaten all experimental aircraft builders and owners.
=B7 Impact private aircraft owners of every type.
=B7 Limit every instructor and every student pilot.
=B7 Involve every pilot, mechanic and aviation business related
individual.
=B7 Impact all aspects of General Aviation.
=B7 Reduce safety and standardization.
=B7 Result in destabilization of revenue and general aviation
related commerce to the community.
In short it threatens you and your hard earned right to freedom of
flight in a safe and orderly environment.
STOP ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF GENERAL AVIATION
-----------------
ATTEND A MEETING OF THE CLARK COUNTY AVIATION ASSOCIATION
6:30 PM DECEMBER 17TH
GRAND CANYON ROOM, NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT
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| Subject: | Updated Web Site |
I'm updating my web site (jessen-rv10.com) as I get ready to resume
building. The additions might be of interest to one or two. There's a new
section, called NW RV-10 Dinners. This holds pictures of the dinner
gatherings we've had to date, and will also hold a notice about upcoming
dinners, one of which will be in the Spring of 09. There's also a single
page about my GlaStar. Please let me know if links don't work, etc.
John Jessen
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