Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:02 AM - Re: Overhead console (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 06:38 AM - Re: Overhead console (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 06:53 AM - Re: Overhead console (Kelly McMullen)
4. 09:08 AM - Re: shoulder harness hardpoints (Ben Westfall)
5. 01:16 PM - Re: Nose Gear Strut (johngoodman)
6. 04:31 PM - Re: shoulder harness hardpoints (eagerlee)
7. 04:40 PM - Re: Overhead console (Robin Marks)
8. 06:21 PM - Re: Overhead console (Kelly McMullen)
9. 08:28 PM - HS attach bracket issue (jcumins@jcis.net)
10. 08:44 PM - Re: HS attach bracket issue (pascal)
11. 08:50 PM - Re: HS attach bracket issue (Rene)
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console |
Just curios because I see this once in awhile. What causes messages,like
Michaels below, to go whacky like his did? Sometimes I see these and
they are so long it seems like it goes on forever. Not aviation question
but hey what the heck :>}
Wayne Edgerton N602WT flying
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Time: 08:03:34 AM PST US
From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Subject: Overhead console
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| Subject: | Overhead console |
Hmm, most of my messages go out in HTML format from my email program whic
h is fairly common. It looks like stuff is reading correctly into the Matr
onics forums so I don't think it's anything on Matt's side. (http://forums.
matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=52963&start If I had to guess, somew
here along the way something in the message is triggering a translation at
your ISP or email reader that is causing the format to change into somethin
g unreadable. What are you using for email reader? Looks like you are usi
ng the Windows Mail client that comes in Vista. Also if your ISP has webma
il, log into there and see if it is scrambled.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead console
Just curios because I see this once in awhile. What causes messages,like Mi
chaels below, to go whacky like his did? Sometimes I see these and they are
so long it seems like it goes on forever. Not aviation question but hey wh
at the heck :>}
Wayne Edgerton N602WT flying
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console |
I see the same with Thunderbird. I suspect a formating bit gets dropped
along the way. Also with Gmail. So apparently it happens in the
processing of the listserve after a copy goes on the forum.
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>
> Hmm, most of my messages go out in HTML format from my email program
> which is fairly common. It looks like stuff is reading correctly into
> the Matronics forums so I don't think it's anything on Matt's side.
> (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=52963&start
> <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=52963&start > If I
> had to guess, somewhere along the way something in the message is
> triggering a translation at your ISP or email reader that is causing
> the format to change into something unreadable. What are you using
> for email reader? Looks like you are using the Windows Mail client
> that comes in Vista. Also if your ISP has webmail, log into there and
> see if it is scrambled.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Wayne
> Edgerton
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:00 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Overhead console
>
>
>
> Just curios because I see this once in awhile. What causes
> messages,like Michaels below, to go whacky like his did? Sometimes I
> see these and they are so long it seems like it goes on forever. Not
> aviation question but hey what the heck :>}
>
>
>
> Wayne Edgerton N602WT flying
>
>
>
> do not archive**
>
> *=========*
> *
> ===================================================
> *
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| Subject: | shoulder harness hardpoints |
I'm sure they are plenty strong. If the impact is strong enough to shear
that bolt your f****d anyway.
-Ben
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: shoulder harness hardpoints
Has anyone come up with a stronger method of attaching the front seat
shoulder harness? The 5/16 countersunk holes don't seem that strong to me.
I'm no engineer, but I would like something more robust. What has anyone
else come up?
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Gear Strut |
Tim,
My Finish Kit should be shipping this week. I'm certain I won't need the nose strut
until April. If you can't find another, I'll work with you.
John Goodman
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=220332#220332
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| Subject: | Re: shoulder harness hardpoints |
I'll bet these attach points are designed to fail - at just the right
force - so the occupant has a fighting chance of survival. I compare it
to the passenger compartment of my wife's Saab 900. I gave up its life
to save hers.
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| Subject: | Overhead console |
Kelly,
When I drink Thunderbird everything looks like that to
me.
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead console
I see the same with Thunderbird. I suspect a formating bit gets dropped
along the way. Also with Gmail. So apparently it happens in the
processing of the listserve after a copy goes on the forum.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console |
Some of us don't stoop to the liquid, preferring only the software program.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
> Kelly,
>
> When I drink Thunderbird everything looks like that to me.
>
>
> Robin
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead console
>
>
> I see the same with Thunderbird. I suspect a formating bit gets dropped
> along the way. Also with Gmail. So apparently it happens in the processing
> of the listserve after a copy goes on the forum.
>
>
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| Subject: | HS attach bracket issue |
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Well all you rv10 buikders out there. Looks like i finally mide my
first big boo boo. And I will call Vans Monday morning.
When i final drilled the left and rt horv. stab fwd spar attach
brackets i made sure to clamp both of them to a piece of angle stock
so that they were final drilled parrallel to each other.
Well when i went to rivit them on today all looked well and i did
not think to reclamp them to a piece of angle stock. Now here comes
the probelm. The Left bracket is about 1/32 of a inch oft of
parallel to the other. When i clap the angle stock to the rt bracket
it contacts the inboard edge of the left bracket like it should.
When i clamp the angle stock to the left bracket it misses the rt
bracket by a bunch. so this telles me the left bracket is not
parallel.
I do think that it probable should be fixed, to prevent a twisting
force on the bracket, rivits and HS fwd spar.
My question is can i just shave a very small amount off the inboard
side of the left bracket bottom to get them back parallel, would this
be a ok repair or should i make new bracket and redo it.
I do think i will order the material to make a new on or order one
already made from the company that makes them on a cnc machine.
Boy was this very upsetting to find when i was finished with the
front spar.
Word of advice would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks.
John
Horz Stab build mode
SN 40864
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| Subject: | Re: HS attach bracket issue |
send me the plans page and step so I can see where you are and try to
remember what I did at that point.
Pascal
From: jcumins@jcis.net
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 8:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: HS attach bracket issue
Well all you rv10 buikders out there. Looks like i finally mide my
first big boo boo. And I will call Vans Monday morning.
When i final drilled the left and rt horv. stab fwd spar attach brackets
i made sure to clamp both of them to a piece of angle stock so that they
were final drilled parrallel to each other.
Well when i went to rivit them on today all looked well and i did not
think to reclamp them to a piece of angle stock. Now here comes the
probelm. The Left bracket is about 1/32 of a inch oft of parallel to
the other. When i clap the angle stock to the rt bracket it contacts
the inboard edge of the left bracket like it should.
When i clamp the angle stock to the left bracket it misses the rt
bracket by a bunch. so this telles me the left bracket is not parallel.
I do think that it probable should be fixed, to prevent a twisting force
on the bracket, rivits and HS fwd spar.
My question is can i just shave a very small amount off the inboard side
of the left bracket bottom to get them back parallel, would this be a ok
repair or should i make new bracket and redo it.
I do think i will order the material to make a new on or order one
already made from the company that makes them on a cnc machine.
Boy was this very upsetting to find when i was finished with the front
spar.
Word of advice would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks.
John
Horz Stab build mode
SN 40864
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| Subject: | HS attach bracket issue |
Just an Idea, but since it looks like they were parallel when you
drilled
them, just drill out the rivets...clamp them down and re-rivet.
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jcumins@jcis.net
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: HS attach bracket issue
Well all you rv10 buikders out there. Looks like i finally mide my
first
big boo boo. And I will call Vans Monday morning.
When i final drilled the left and rt horv. stab fwd spar attach brackets
i
made sure to clamp both of them to a piece of angle stock so that they
were
final drilled parrallel to each other.
Well when i went to rivit them on today all looked well and i did not
think
to reclamp them to a piece of angle stock. Now here comes the probelm.
The
Left bracket is about 1/32 of a inch oft of parallel to the other. When
i
clap the angle stock to the rt bracket it contacts the inboard edge of
the
left bracket like it should.
When i clamp the angle stock to the left bracket it misses the rt
bracket by
a bunch. so this telles me the left bracket is not parallel.
I do think that it probable should be fixed, to prevent a twisting force
on
the bracket, rivits and HS fwd spar.
My question is can i just shave a very small amount off the inboard side
of
the left bracket bottom to get them back parallel, would this be a ok
repair
or should i make new bracket and redo it.
I do think i will order the material to make a new on or order one
already
made from the company that makes them on a cnc machine.
Boy was this very upsetting to find when i was finished with the front
spar.
Word of advice would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks.
John
Horz Stab build mode
SN 40864
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