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1. 05:33 AM - Re: N312F - Wow! It really flies! (Jim)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: DAR Blessed N475PV (gary)
3. 05:53 AM - Re: N312F - Wow! It really flies! (Deems Davis)
4. 05:56 AM - Re: N312F - Wow! It really flies! (gary)
5. 06:02 AM - Re: N312F - Wow! It really flies! (Jim)
6. 06:15 AM - Re: DAR Blessed N475PV (Deems Davis)
7. 06:47 AM - Re: DAR Blessed N475PV (Fred Williams, M.D.)
8. 08:19 AM - Re: DAR Blessed N475PV (SteinAir, Inc.)
9. 04:56 PM - Rudder trim (Wayne Williams)
10. 05:15 PM - Re: Rudder trim (Rick Sked)
11. 06:44 PM - Should I dimple the wing ribs? (jdalton77@comcast.net)
12. 07:05 PM - Re: Should I dimple the wing ribs? (Rick Sked)
13. 07:06 PM - Re: Should I dimple the wing ribs? (Marcus Cooper)
14. 08:28 PM - Re: Rudder trim (linn Walters)
15. 09:09 PM - Re: Should I dimple the wing ribs? (jdalton77@comcast.net)
16. 10:18 PM - Re: Should I dimple the wing ribs? (Ben Westfall)
17. 10:20 PM - 45 degree angle on the door edge (Ben Westfall)
18. 10:28 PM - Re: Should I dimple the wing ribs? (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
19. 10:31 PM - Re: Should I dimple the wing ribs? (Rob Kochman)
20. 10:45 PM - Re: DAR Blessed N475PV (Lenny Iszak)
21. 10:55 PM - Re: 45 degree angle on the door edge (Lenny Iszak)
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| Subject: | Re: N312F - Wow! It really flies! |
Thanks,
It's amazing how the weather is so bad just as you get
ready to flying your airplane. So many days I watched all the other
pilots roll out their airplanes and go flying. Auuugh!
Rain here is the forecast for several more days. YUK!
It's also amazing how many things I did NOT watch. I did
retrieve the flight data from the Advanced flight systems EFIS and import
it to an Excel spreadsheet. Really nice feature to be able to go
look at the data. I had replaced a cylinder and it was nice to look
at the cylinder temps for #3 and see them settle down after about 15
minutes of flying. Just like it was supposed to.
Takeoff
was interesting. we have 8500 feet of runway here. I added
enough power to see the airspeed come alive then continued to ease in
power. Focus was on keeping center line and just feeling out the
airplane. Next thing I know I am 5 feet off the ground and climbing
straight out. I was not at full power, maybe 50%. Airspeed
good and building, so more power. Never got to wide open
throttle. 22 inches and I was getting over 1000 FPM. So I left
things alone till I got up to 2000 feet AGL. Then turned and took a
good look around. WOW! Light touch of trim and hands
off. From then on only needed finger tips to fly.
Spent a few minutes chekcing temps and listening to a purring
engine. GRINNING big time! Still WOW! Slowed to verify
stall speeds flaps up and down then called tower to request landing with
option to go around.
Tower cleared to land, no other
traffic. Flew right base then turned final. Aiplane is on
RAILS. Airspeed rock steady and wings level. It was slow
motion! Over runway, then rotate for landing, stall warning about 5
feet off runway. Then a nice touchdown and made first turn
off. Not even trying to do anything short. WOW!
Adrenaline is a diuretic!
It was a really nice first
flight.
Jim C
N312F - Flying!
Do Not Archive
<Tim@myrv10.com>
>
> Really awesome Jim, I can't
wait to hear your flying impressions
> after you've gotten
comfortable!
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Jim wrote:
>> 4 Years 8 Months and 1 day - WOW!
>>
>>
Kit - 40192
>>
>> N312F flew today for the first
time. Words just don't describe the
>> feelings. Flew for
0.36 hours. Had one takeoff and one landing (That
>> was the
plan!). ATC was really nice and made me feel really comfortable
>> with staying in close to the airport just in case.
>>
>> Had family and a few friends there but once the
doors closed it was just
>> me and the airplane.
>>
>> Now for the 39.37 hours to complete Phase I.
>>
>> We are running:
>>
>>
Lycoming IO-540-C4B5 ( with one Lightspeed Plasma III ignition)
>> Hartzel Prop
>> Advanced Flight Systems AF3500EE
EFIS / Engine monitor
>> Serial GPS receiver driving the EFIS
Moving map
>> PS8000B Audio Panel
>> Garmin SL-30
Nav/Com
>> Garmin 327 Transponder
>>
>>
No paint, minimal interior 1498 lbs empty weight.
>>
>> FLIES GREAT!
>>
>> Still can't believe I
built an airplane. I have been wanting to do this
>> since I
was 18. Now at 53, finally! Dang it is GOOD!
>>
>>
Jim Combs
>> N312F - FLYING!
>> 40192
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
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>> *
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| Subject: | DAR Blessed N475PV |
Congratulations. I am sorry I couldn't make it up there while I was in MN.
The weather sucked. Have fun flying off the hours then head south and visit
us. It is much warmer here.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sheldon Olesen
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: DAR Blessed N475PV
With the blessing of the local DAR my 5yr, 2 months and 1 day, 25,500
rivet project has been transformed into an airplane. I got my
airworthiness certificate tonight. The first flight will have to be
postponed due to some bad weather in TX last week-- I was unable to
get my transition training done with Alex due to IFR conditions with
100-200 foot ceilings the whole time while I was there. I am
rescheduled for the 30th and 31rst so there could be a potential
first flight on New Year's day.
I was lucky to get a 50 nautical mile test radius (we are very rural)
and a 25 hour Phase 1 period even though I have a Mattituck TMX-540.
I did not ask if he made a mistake on the testing hours. The only
problems noted were no witness holes in the flap and engine control
rod ends and the wires to the elevator trim servo were looser than he
liked.
I got what I wanted for Christmas and New Year's is looking good.
I've included a picture of the new born.
Sheldon Olesen
#40080 Not flying just yet
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| Subject: | Re: N312F - Wow! It really flies! |
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! ! ! ! J I M
I REALLY enjoyed reading this post, I can feel you joy!!!!
Keep grinning!
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together' (but it's getting there!)
http://deemsrv10.com/
Jim wrote:
> Thanks,
>
> It's amazing how the weather is so bad just as you get ready to flying
> your airplane. So many days I watched all the other pilots roll out
> their airplanes and go flying. Auuugh!
>
> Rain here is the forecast for several more days. YUK!
>
> It's also amazing how many things I did NOT watch. I did retrieve the
> flight data from the Advanced flight systems EFIS and import it to an
> Excel spreadsheet. Really nice feature to be able to go look at the
> data. I had replaced a cylinder and it was nice to look at the
> cylinder temps for #3 and see them settle down after about 15 minutes
> of flying. Just like it was supposed to.
>
> Takeoff was interesting. we have 8500 feet of runway here. I added
> enough power to see the airspeed come alive then continued to ease in
> power. Focus was on keeping center line and just feeling out the
> airplane. Next thing I know I am 5 feet off the ground and climbing
> straight out. I was not at full power, maybe 50%. Airspeed good and
> building, so more power. Never got to wide open throttle. 22 inches
> and I was getting over 1000 FPM. So I left things alone till I got up
> to 2000 feet AGL. Then turned and took a good look around. WOW!
> Light touch of trim and hands off. From then on only needed finger
> tips to fly.
>
> Spent a few minutes chekcing temps and listening to a purring engine.
> GRINNING big time! Still WOW! Slowed to verify stall speeds flaps up
> and down then called tower to request landing with option to go around.
>
> Tower cleared to land, no other traffic. Flew right base then turned
> final. Aiplane is on RAILS. Airspeed rock steady and wings level.
> It was slow motion! Over runway, then rotate for landing, stall
> warning about 5 feet off runway. Then a nice touchdown and made first
> turn off. Not even trying to do anything short. WOW!
>
> Adrenaline is a diuretic!
>
> It was a really nice first flight.
>
> Jim C
> N312F - Flying!
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> >
> > Really awesome Jim, I can't wait to hear your flying impressions
> > after you've gotten comfortable!
> >
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > Jim wrote:
> >> 4 Years 8 Months and 1 day - WOW!
> >>
> >> Kit - 40192
> >>
> >> N312F flew today for the first time. Words just don't describe the
> >> feelings. Flew for 0.36 hours. Had one takeoff and one landing (That
> >> was the plan!). ATC was really nice and made me feel really comfortable
> >> with staying in close to the airport just in case.
> >>
> >> Had family and a few friends there but once the doors closed it was
> just
> >> me and the airplane.
> >>
> >> Now for the 39.37 hours to complete Phase I.
> >>
> >> We are running:
> >>
> >> Lycoming IO-540-C4B5 ( with one Lightspeed Plasma III ignition)
> >> Hartzel Prop
> >> Advanced Flight Systems AF3500EE EFIS / Engine monitor
> >> Serial GPS receiver driving the EFIS Moving map
> >> PS8000B Audio Panel
> >> Garmin SL-30 Nav/Com
> >> Garmin 327 Transponder
> >>
> >> No paint, minimal interior 1498 lbs empty weight.
> >>
> >> FLIES GREAT!
> >>
> >> Still can't believe I built an airplane. I have been wanting to do this
> >> since I was 18. Now at 53, finally! Dang it is GOOD!
> >>
> >> Jim Combs
> >> N312F - FLYING!
> >> 40192
> >>
> >> Do Not Archive
> >>
> >> *
> >>
> >> *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> *
>
> *
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| Subject: | N312F - Wow! It really flies! |
I am really surprised that LEX did not have any traffic while you were up.
It was real busy when I was up there. It is also nice to hear that the tower
folks were helpful. Have fun, you deserve it after all that work.
Gary Specketer
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: N312F - Wow! It really flies!
Thanks,
It's amazing how the weather is so bad just as you get ready to flying your
airplane. So many days I watched all the other pilots roll out their
airplanes and go flying. Auuugh!
Rain here is the forecast for several more days. YUK!
It's also amazing how many things I did NOT watch. I did retrieve the
flight data from the Advanced flight systems EFIS and import it to an Excel
spreadsheet. Really nice feature to be able to go look at the data. I had
replaced a cylinder and it was nice to look at the cylinder temps for #3 and
see them settle down after about 15 minutes of flying. Just like it was
supposed to.
Takeoff was interesting. we have 8500 feet of runway here. I added enough
power to see the airspeed come alive then continued to ease in power. Focus
was on keeping center line and just feeling out the airplane. Next thing I
know I am 5 feet off the ground and climbing straight out. I was not at
full power, maybe 50%. Airspeed good and building, so more power. Never
got to wide open throttle. 22 inches and I was getting over 1000 FPM. So I
left things alone till I got up to 2000 feet AGL. Then turned and took a
good look around. WOW! Light touch of trim and hands off. From then on
only needed finger tips to fly.
Spent a few minutes chekcing temps and listening to a purring engine.
GRINNING big time! Still WOW! Slowed to verify stall speeds flaps up and
down then called tower to request landing with option to go around.
Tower cleared to land, no other traffic. Flew right base then turned final.
Aiplane is on RAILS. Airspeed rock steady and wings level. It was slow
motion! Over runway, then rotate for landing, stall warning about 5 feet
off runway. Then a nice touchdown and made first turn off. Not even trying
to do anything short. WOW!
Adrenaline is a diuretic!
It was a really nice first flight.
Jim C
N312F - Flying!
Do Not Archive
>
> Really awesome Jim, I can't wait to hear your flying impressions
> after you've gotten comfortable!
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Jim wrote:
>> 4 Years 8 Months and 1 day - WOW!
>>
>> Kit - 40192
>>
>> N312F flew today for the first time. Words just don't describe the
>> feelings. Flew for 0.36 hours. Had one takeoff and one landing (That
>> was the plan!). ATC was really nice and made me feel really comfortable
>> with staying in close to the airport just in case.
>>
>> Had family and a few friends there but once the doors closed it was just
>> me and the airplane.
>>
>> Now for the 39.37 hours to complete Phase I.
>>
>> We are running:
>>
>> Lycoming IO-540-C4B5 ( with one Lightspeed Plasma III ignition)
>> Hartzel Prop
>> Advanced Flight Systems AF3500EE EFIS / Engine monitor
>> Serial GPS receiver driving the EFIS Moving map
>> PS8000B Audio Panel
>> Garmin SL-30 Nav/Com
>> Garmin 327 Transponder
>>
>> No paint, minimal interior 1498 lbs empty weight.
>>
>> FLIES GREAT!
>>
>> Still can't believe I built an airplane. I have been wanting to do this
>> since I was 18. Now at 53, finally! Dang it is GOOD!
>>
>> Jim Combs
>> N312F - FLYING!
>> 40192
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | N312F - Wow! It really flies! |
Georgia football games and Keeneland racing drive lots of traffic.
But for the most part, there can be times when things are quiet.
Two commercial jets and a departing Cessna were the only traffic I had
that day.
Couldn't get to sleep last night and woke up still
flying!
Still WAY GOOD!
Jim C
> I am
really surprised that LEX did not have any traffic while you were up.
> It was real busy when I was up there. It is also nice to hear that
the
> tower
> folks were helpful. Have fun, you deserve
it after all that work.
>
>
>
> Gary
Specketer
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:32 AM
> To:
rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: N312F - Wow! It
really flies!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> It's amazing how the weather is so bad just as you get ready to
flying
> your
> airplane. So many days I watched all the
other pilots roll out their
> airplanes and go flying. Auuugh!
>
> Rain here is the forecast for several more days.
YUK!
>
> It's also amazing how many things I did NOT
watch. I did retrieve the
> flight data from the Advanced flight
systems EFIS and import it to an
> Excel
> spreadsheet.
Really nice feature to be able to go look at the data. I
> had
> replaced a cylinder and it was nice to look at the cylinder temps
for #3
> and
> see them settle down after about 15 minutes
of flying. Just like it was
> supposed to.
>
>
Takeoff was interesting. we have 8500 feet of runway here. I added
> enough
> power to see the airspeed come alive then
continued to ease in power.
> Focus
> was on keeping
center line and just feeling out the airplane. Next thing
> I
> know I am 5 feet off the ground and climbing straight out. I was
not at
> full power, maybe 50%. Airspeed good and building, so
more power. Never
> got to wide open throttle. 22 inches and I
was getting over 1000 FPM. So
> I
> left things alone
till I got up to 2000 feet AGL. Then turned and took a
> good
look around. WOW! Light touch of trim and hands off.
>From then
on
> only needed finger tips to fly.
>
> Spent a
few minutes chekcing temps and listening to a purring engine.
>
GRINNING big time! Still WOW! Slowed to verify stall speeds flaps up
and
> down then called tower to request landing with option to go
around.
>
> Tower cleared to land, no other traffic.
Flew right base then turned
> final.
> Aiplane is on
RAILS. Airspeed rock steady and wings level. It was slow
>
motion! Over runway, then rotate for landing, stall warning about 5
feet
> off runway. Then a nice touchdown and made first turn off.
Not even
> trying
> to do anything short. WOW!
>
> Adrenaline is a diuretic!
>
> It was a really
nice first flight.
>
> Jim C
> N312F - Flying!
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>> --> RV10-List
message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
>>
>> Really awesome Jim, I can't wait to hear your flying
impressions
>> after you've gotten comfortable!
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>
do not archive
>>
>>
>> Jim wrote:
>>> 4 Years 8 Months and 1 day - WOW!
>>>
>>> Kit - 40192
>>>
>>> N312F flew
today for the first time. Words just don't describe the
>>>
feelings. Flew for 0.36 hours. Had one takeoff and one landing (That
>>> was the plan!). ATC was really nice and made me feel really
comfortable
>>> with staying in close to the airport just in
case.
>>>
>>> Had family and a few friends
there but once the doors closed it was
>>> just
>>> me and the airplane.
>>>
>>>
Now for the 39.37 hours to complete Phase I.
>>>
>>> We are running:
>>>
>>>
Lycoming IO-540-C4B5 ( with one Lightspeed Plasma III ignition)
>>> Hartzel Prop
>>> Advanced Flight Systems
AF3500EE EFIS / Engine monitor
>>> Serial GPS receiver
driving the EFIS Moving map
>>> PS8000B Audio Panel
>>> Garmin SL-30 Nav/Com
>>> Garmin 327
Transponder
>>>
>>> No paint, minimal interior
1498 lbs empty weight.
>>>
>>> FLIES GREAT!
>>>
>>> Still can't believe I built an airplane.
I have been wanting to do this
>>> since I was 18. Now at
53, finally! Dang it is GOOD!
>>>
>>> Jim
Combs
>>> N312F - FLYING!
>>> 40192
>>>
>>> Do Not Archive
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: DAR Blessed N475PV |
Now That what I call a paint job !!!!!!
Looking forward to your 1st flight.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Sheldon Olesen wrote:
> With the blessing of the local DAR my 5yr, 2 months and 1 day, 25,500
> rivet project has been transformed into an airplane. I got my
> airworthiness certificate tonight. The first flight will have to be
> postponed due to some bad weather in TX last week-- I was unable to
> get my transition training done with Alex due to IFR conditions with
> 100-200 foot ceilings the whole time while I was there. I am
> rescheduled for the 30th and 31rst so there could be a potential first
> flight on New Year's day.
>
> I was lucky to get a 50 nautical mile test radius (we are very rural)
> and a 25 hour Phase 1 period even though I have a Mattituck TMX-540.
> I did not ask if he made a mistake on the testing hours. The only
> problems noted were no witness holes in the flap and engine control
> rod ends and the wires to the elevator trim servo were looser than he
> liked.
>
> I got what I wanted for Christmas and New Year's is looking good.
> I've included a picture of the new born.
>
>
> Sheldon Olesen
> #40080 Not flying just yet
>
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| Subject: | Re: DAR Blessed N475PV |
Sheldon :
Happy birthday! You should be one proud papa. I took transition
training with Alex earlier this summer. He did a great job of showing
me how to handle the 10. You will be glad you took the time to undergo
the training. For me, I was driving a 152 before getting into my 10.
I love your paint job. 10+ on style points and she hasn't even left the
ground.
Dr Fred.
N515FW
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| Subject: | DAR Blessed N475PV |
Hi Sheldon,
CONGRAT's and WELL DONE! I know it's been a long road for you, but the
plane turned out really nice. Hopefully our weather will co-operate one of
these days and you can come down so I can see it!
Anyway, again - excellent!
Cheers,
Stein
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sheldon Olesen
>Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:00 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: DAR Blessed N475PV
>
>
>With the blessing of the local DAR my 5yr, 2 months and 1 day, 25,500
>rivet project has been transformed into an airplane. I got my
>airworthiness certificate tonight. The first flight will have to be
>postponed due to some bad weather in TX last week-- I was unable to
>get my transition training done with Alex due to IFR conditions with
>100-200 foot ceilings the whole time while I was there. I am
>rescheduled for the 30th and 31rst so there could be a potential
>first flight on New Year's day.
>
>I was lucky to get a 50 nautical mile test radius (we are very rural)
>and a 25 hour Phase 1 period even though I have a Mattituck TMX-540.
>I did not ask if he made a mistake on the testing hours. The only
>problems noted were no witness holes in the flap and engine control
>rod ends and the wires to the elevator trim servo were looser than he
>liked.
>
>I got what I wanted for Christmas and New Year's is looking good.
>I've included a picture of the new born.
>
>
>Sheldon Olesen
>#40080 Not flying just yet
>
>
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For those of you with or installing rudder trim, is their a kit available?
I've seen a description of Vic's system (hinge on trailing edge) but cannot
find a kit or a parts list. Thanks.
Wayne
Checked by AVG.
11:23 AM
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No kits as far as I know,
Tim has a complete write up using Vic's method.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20071104/index.html
Rick S,
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 4:55:16 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder trim
For those of you with or installing rudder trim, is their a kit available?
I've seen a description of Vic's system (hinge on trailing edge) but cannot
find a kit or a parts list. Thanks.
Wayne
Checked by AVG.
11:23 AM
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Sorry for the dumb question, but I'm getting started on the wings and I have a
dimpling question.
In the tailkit I thought I dimpled the skin attach holes in the ribs so the skin
dimples could fit into them. Now I don't see that instruction to dimple the
same oles on the aft wing ribs in the plans. I looked on Mike H's site and he
doesn't show a step for dimpling the ribs either.
It seems logical to dimple the ribs if the skins are dimpled. What am I missing.
Jeff Dalton
Tail Kit done
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<DIV>Sorry for the dumb question, but I'm getting started on the wings and I have
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<DIV>In the tailkit I thought I dimpled the skin attach holes in the ribs so the
skin dimples could fit into them. Now I don't see that instruction to
dimple the same oles on the aft wing ribs in the plans. I looked on Mike
H's site and he doesn't show a step for dimpling the ribs either. </DIV>
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<DIV>It seems logical to dimple the ribs if the skins are dimpled. What am
I missing.</DIV>
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Jeff,
You may want to jump ahead to the wing skin section, If I recall you match
drill the skins then remove, deburr and dimple...But yes the ribs get dimpl
ed with maybe the exception of the top skins at the wing root where the dou
blers go, I think they are not dimpled due the the doubler/skin being machi
ne countersunk but don't hold me to that.
Rick Sked
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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:42:35 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Should I dimple the wing ribs?
Sorry for the dumb question, but I'm getting started on the wings and I hav
e a dimpling question.
In the tailkit I thought I dimpled the skin attach holes in the ribs so the
skin dimples could fit into them.=C2- Now I don't see that instruction t
o dimple the same oles on the aft wing ribs in the plans.=C2- I looked on
Mike H's site and he doesn't show a step for dimpling the ribs either.=C2
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It seems logical to dimple the ribs if the skins are dimpled.=C2- What am
I missing.
Jeff Dalton
Tail Kit done
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Jeff,
Standby for probably better answers as it's been awhile, but here is my
2 cents. You are correct in assuming if you dimple the skin you need to
dimple (or countersink depending on the material) the part it's mated to. I
have a thought for your situation, but not being sure of exactly which parts
you are working on I'm not it will apply. I think there is a doubler plate
where you step on the wing near the root. That plate will get countersunk
but not the ribs underneath. If your question deals with just that area of
the wing, then I suspect you can press on. If not then wait for a more
appropriate answer.
I recommend you also look at Tim Olson's website for pictures of the parts
you are working on.
Congrats on completing the tailkit, I'm sure that was motivational.
Marcus
40286 - 392 hrs
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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Should I dimple the wing ribs?
Sorry for the dumb question, but I'm getting started on the wings and I have
a dimpling question.
In the tailkit I thought I dimpled the skin attach holes in the ribs so the
skin dimples could fit into them. Now I don't see that instruction to
dimple the same oles on the aft wing ribs in the plans. I looked on Mike
H's site and he doesn't show a step for dimpling the ribs either.
It seems logical to dimple the ribs if the skins are dimpled. What am I
missing.
Jeff Dalton
Tail Kit done
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I didn't really look, so I can't answer your question. I'm going to
install a model airplane servo in the bottom rib and drive a hinge
(maybe like Vic's) at the base of the rudder trailing edge. I'm in the
process of designing the pulse width modulator needed to drive the servo
as we speak. Almost there.
Linn
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Wayne Williams wrote:
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> For those of you with or installing rudder trim, is their a kit available?
> I've seen a description of Vic's system (hinge on trailing edge) but cannot
> find a kit or a parts list. Thanks.
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> Wayne
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Marcus,
Thanks, It was a proud moment - sort of like having another child (but being much
too old!).
I should have been more clear. The reason I'm a little confused is that I think
the instructions have me riveting the ribs to the spar now. If I rivet them
first, then I'll have to dimple all of the rib holds with a squeezer, instead
of the DDR-2 that I paid 400 bucks for.
Jeff
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From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
Jeff,
Standby for probably better answers as its been awhile, but here is my 2 cents.
You are correct in assuming if you dimple the skin you need to dimple (or
countersink depending on the material) the part its mated to. I have a thought
for your situation, but not being sure of exactly which parts you are working
on Im not it will apply. I think there is a doubler plate where you step
on the wing near the root. That plate will get countersunk but not the ribs underneath.
If your question deals with just that area of the wing, then I suspect
you can press on. If not then wait for a more appropriate answer.
I recommend you also look at Tim Olsons website for pictures of the parts you are
working on.
Congrats on completing the tailkit, Im sure that was motivational.
Marcus
40286 392 hrs
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Should I dimple the wing ribs?
Sorry for the dumb question, but I'm getting started on the wings and I have a
dimpling question.
In the tailkit I thought I dimpled the skin attach holes in the ribs so the skin
dimples could fit into them. Now I don't see that instruction to dimple the
same oles on the aft wing ribs in the plans. I looked on Mike H's site and he
doesn't show a step for dimpling the ribs either.
It seems logical to dimple the ribs if the skins are dimpled. What am I missing.
Jeff Dalton
Tail Kit done
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<DIV>Marcus, </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks, It was a proud moment - sort of like having another child (but being
much too old!).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I should have been more clear. The reason I'm a little confused is that
I think the instructions have me riveting the ribs to the spar now.
If I rivet them first, then I'll have to dimple all of the rib holds with a squeezer,
instead of the DDR-2 that I paid 400 bucks for.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jeff </DIV>
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<DIV>Do not Archive</DIV>
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Standby for probably better answers
as its been awhile, but here is my 2 cents. You are correct in assuming
if you dimple the skin you need to dimple (or countersink depending on the material)
the part its mated to. I have a thought for your situation, but not
being sure of exactly which parts you are working on Im not it will apply.
I think there is a doubler plate where you step on the wing near the root.
That plate will get countersunk but not the ribs underneath. If
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Congrats
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<P class=MsoNormal>In the tailkit I thought I dimpled the skin attach holes in
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to dimple the same oles on the aft wing ribs in the plans. I
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| Subject: | Should I dimple the wing ribs? |
It goes quick, dimpling with the squeezer. I think I recall doing it that
way because you don't match drill the bottom skins till after the top skins
have been riveted. I'm guessing the reason they don't have you dimple the
top sides is because of confusion. I know I'd end up dimpling the wrong
side of about half the darn ribs if I did them loose.
-Ben
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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Should I dimple the wing ribs?
Marcus,
Thanks, It was a proud moment - sort of like having another child (but being
much too old!).
I should have been more clear. The reason I'm a little confused is that I
think the instructions have me riveting the ribs to the spar now. If I
rivet them first, then I'll have to dimple all of the rib holds with a
squeezer, instead of the DDR-2 that I paid 400 bucks for.
Jeff
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| Subject: | 45 degree angle on the door edge |
Does anyone have any neat tricks for putting a 45 degree edge on the inside
of the doors? I'm just about to that point.
-Ben
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Welcome to the RV 10 world!!
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: Should I dimple the wing ribs?
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| Subject: | Re: Should I dimple the wing ribs? |
Bigger point here is that unlike the tail kit, the plans don't call out
every step in the wing and subsequent kits. In this case, you're expected
to look at the rivet callouts for the wing skins and know that the
corresponding rib holes should be dimpled.
-Rob
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Ben Westfall <rv10@sinkrate.com> wrote:
> It goes quick, dimpling with the squeezer. I think I recall doing it
> that way because you don't match drill the bottom skins till after the top
> skins have been riveted. I'm guessing the reason they don't have you dimple
> the top sides is because of confusion. I know I'd end up dimpling the wrong
> side of about half the darn ribs if I did them loose.
>
>
> -Ben
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *jdalton77@comcast.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:08 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Should I dimple the wing ribs?
>
>
> Marcus,
>
>
> Thanks, It was a proud moment - sort of like having another child (but
> being much too old!).
>
>
> I should have been more clear. The reason I'm a little confused is that I
> think the instructions have me riveting the ribs to the spar now. If I
> rivet them first, then I'll have to dimple all of the rib holds with a
> squeezer, instead of the DDR-2 that I paid 400 bucks for.
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Do not Archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: DAR Blessed N475PV |
Wow! Love the paint job!
Lenny
#40803
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| Subject: | Re: 45 degree angle on the door edge |
I was thinking of keeping it straight, but it looks like it won't work.
So if anyone has a trick to do a perfect 45 angle, i'd be thankful...
Lenny
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