---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/29/08: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:29 AM - Re: Re: Brake system questions. (Perry, Phil) 2. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Brake system questions. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 3. 06:33 AM - New Year's Price increase (Kelly McMullen) 4. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Brake system questions. (Deems Davis) 5. 07:11 AM - Re: New Year's Price increase (pascal) 6. 07:56 AM - Re: New Year's Price increase (pascal) 7. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Interior Door Handles (Don McDonald) 8. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Brake system questions. (Perry, Phil) 9. 09:09 AM - Re: Re: Brake system questions. (pascal) 10. 09:20 AM - Re: Re: Brake system questions. (ricksked@embarqmail.com) 11. 09:43 AM - Re: Push Rod Height in Tunnel (nukeflyboy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:50 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. From: "Perry, Phil" I've been thinking of using these.... Does anyone have any experience with them? http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14588.html Thanks, Phil -----Original Message----- From: Lenny Iszak [mailto:lenard@rapiddecision.com] Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:24 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. --> Myron, I got the braided stainless brake line kit from Bonaco Inc. It includes the blue fittings and the brake lines for the gear legs too. If I remember correctly the total cost was $160 + shipping. Couple of weeks before that I paid $120 for a single brake line for my Katana. Gotta love experimental airplanes... If you search the archives you'll find a few posts about thread sealants. Using that information I decided to use teflon paste, making sure not to get it on the first thread. Regards, Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221329#221329 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:09 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. Take note that that one does NOT come with the AN fittings. For those you will need: http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14589.html Why not just go with the Bonaco lines which are less expensive ($20 less with shipping when I got them), and come with all the fittings, in addition to the lines to run down the legs, and a anti chafe sleeve on all the lines? Not to mention Bonaco does lines for a living. If you don't want the gear leg runs you can let Brett know and that will knock another $45 off the price. I would also find out what the core of those lines are, I believe Bonaco's are Teflon. If you don't get lines with an anti chafe on them, make sure you protect any locations that the brake lines touch. Stainless braid will act like a hacksaw if it moves against another material. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. I've been thinking of using these.... Does anyone have any experience with them? http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14588.html Thanks, Phil -----Original Message----- From: Lenny Iszak [mailto:lenard@rapiddecision.com] Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:24 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. --> Myron, I got the braided stainless brake line kit from Bonaco Inc. It includes the blue fittings and the brake lines for the gear legs too. If I remember correctly the total cost was $160 + shipping. Couple of weeks before that I paid $120 for a single brake line for my Katana. Gotta love experimental airplanes... If you search the archives you'll find a few posts about thread sealants. Using that information I decided to use teflon paste, making sure not to get it on the first thread. Regards, Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221329#221329 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:11 AM PST US From: "Kelly McMullen" Subject: RV10-List: New Year's Price increase I know Van's set Jan 1 for next price adjustment. Has anything been announced as to how much the increase might be? Not quite ready to order next kit, but if the difference is big enough, might anyway. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:32 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. Another little known fact is that Brett (Bonaco) has a variety of colors for the teflon sleves. I ordered black for the brake cylinders themselves. (They even have Hot Pink, to satisfy your wildest interior design plans! Deems RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > > Take note that that one does NOT come with the AN fittings. For those you will need: > > http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14589.html > > Why not just go with the Bonaco lines which are less expensive ($20 less with shipping when I got them), and come with all the fittings, in addition to the lines to run down the legs, and a anti chafe sleeve on all the lines? Not to mention Bonaco does lines for a living. If you don't want the gear leg runs you can let Brett know and that will knock another $45 off the price. I would also find out what the core of those lines are, I believe Bonaco's are Teflon. If you don't get lines with an anti chafe on them, make sure you protect any locations that the brake lines touch. Stainless braid will act like a hacksaw if it moves against another material. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. > > > I've been thinking of using these.... Does anyone have any experience > with them? > > http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14588.html > > > Thanks, > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lenny Iszak [mailto:lenard@rapiddecision.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:24 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. > > --> > > Myron, > > I got the braided stainless brake line kit from Bonaco Inc. It includes > the blue fittings and the brake lines for the gear legs too. If I > remember correctly the total cost was $160 + shipping. Couple of weeks > before that I paid $120 for a single brake line for my Katana. Gotta > love experimental airplanes... > > If you search the archives you'll find a few posts about thread > sealants. Using that information I decided to use teflon paste, making > sure not to get it on the first thread. > > Regards, > Lenny > #40803 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221329#221329 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:56 AM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Year's Price increase you can call Van's and ask if they know yet. I think it's usually around 3% or so To give you a comparison, increase last year (2007-2008) which may not apply again this year Tailcone $125 Wings $245 Fusellage $815 Finish $ 310 I think Van's made some changes to the fusellage that resulted in the large increase, I don't have the 2006 pricing to compare how much that kit went up in 2007 from 2006. Pascal From: Kelly McMullen Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 6:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: New Year's Price increase I know Van's set Jan 1 for next price adjustment. Has anything been announced as to how much the increase might be? Not quite ready to order next kit, but if the difference is big enough, might anyway. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:32 AM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Year's Price increase found a brochure from 2006 increase from 06-07 Tailcone $65 Wings $190 Fusellage $440 Finish $ 230 07-08 Tailcone $125 Wings $245 Fusellage $815 Finish $ 310 Pascal From: pascal Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Year's Price increase you can call Van's and ask if they know yet. I think it's usually around 3% or so To give you a comparison, increase last year (2007-2008) which may not apply again this year I think Van's made some changes to the fusellage that resulted in the large increase, I don't have the 2006 pricing to compare how much that kit went up in 2007 from 2006. Pascal From: Kelly McMullen Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 6:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: New Year's Price increase I know Van's set Jan 1 for next price adjustment. Has anything been announced as to how much the increase might be? Not quite ready to order next kit, but if the difference is big enough, might anyway. title="http://www.matronics.com/contribution CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c title="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List to follow link" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:06 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Interior Door Handles I actually sent Dave-the money.... unfortunately, I was the only one.- -Dave was hoping to-get a few more orders so that he could entice the m achinist with the-cnc mill to do a run of them.- Since that didn't happ en, Dave gave me a choice, send the money and my old hardware back, or he w ould machine them the old fashion way.- I elected the latter.- I have r eceived them back, and they are quite nice, and with a little effort, the i nstall will be completed today.- They are DEFINITELY-nicer than the stk pieces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don McDonald #40636 --- On Sun, 12/28/08, Lenny Iszak wrote: From: Lenny Iszak Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Interior Door Handles Patrick, See this link: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=49441 -------- Regards, Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221570#221570 =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:14 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. From: "Perry, Phil" Does anyone have a complete list of Bonaco part numbers for a full RV-10 installation??? -----Original Message----- From: Deems Davis [mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. Another little known fact is that Brett (Bonaco) has a variety of colors for the teflon sleves. I ordered black for the brake cylinders themselves. (They even have Hot Pink, to satisfy your wildest interior design plans! Deems RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > --> > > Take note that that one does NOT come with the AN fittings. For those you will need: > > http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14589.html > > Why not just go with the Bonaco lines which are less expensive ($20 less with shipping when I got them), and come with all the fittings, in addition to the lines to run down the legs, and a anti chafe sleeve on all the lines? Not to mention Bonaco does lines for a living. If you don't want the gear leg runs you can let Brett know and that will knock another $45 off the price. I would also find out what the core of those lines are, I believe Bonaco's are Teflon. If you don't get lines with an anti chafe on them, make sure you protect any locations that the brake lines touch. Stainless braid will act like a hacksaw if it moves against another material. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. > > > I've been thinking of using these.... Does anyone have any experience > with them? > > http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14588.html > > > Thanks, > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lenny Iszak [mailto:lenard@rapiddecision.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:24 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. > > --> > > Myron, > > I got the braided stainless brake line kit from Bonaco Inc. It > includes the blue fittings and the brake lines for the gear legs too. > If I remember correctly the total cost was $160 + shipping. Couple of > weeks before that I paid $120 for a single brake line for my Katana. > Gotta love experimental airplanes... > > If you search the archives you'll find a few posts about thread > sealants. Using that information I decided to use teflon paste, making > sure not to get it on the first thread. > > Regards, > Lenny > #40803 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221329#221329 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:07 AM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. call Brett at Bonaco and he'll explain the current pricing for what you're looking for. 1-866-239-6442 www.bonacoinc.com Pascal -------------------------------------------------- From: "Perry, Phil" Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. > > Does anyone have a complete list of Bonaco part numbers for a full RV-10 > installation??? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deems Davis [mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:55 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. > > > Another little known fact is that Brett (Bonaco) has a variety of colors > for the teflon sleves. I ordered black for the brake cylinders > themselves. (They even have Hot Pink, to satisfy your wildest interior > design plans! > > Deems > > RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: >> --> >> >> Take note that that one does NOT come with the AN fittings. For those > you will need: >> >> http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14589.html >> >> Why not just go with the Bonaco lines which are less expensive ($20 > less with shipping when I got them), and come with all the fittings, in > addition to the lines to run down the legs, and a anti chafe sleeve on > all the lines? Not to mention Bonaco does lines for a living. If you > don't want the gear leg runs you can let Brett know and that will knock > another $45 off the price. I would also find out what the core of those > lines are, I believe Bonaco's are Teflon. If you don't get lines with > an anti chafe on them, make sure you protect any locations that the > brake lines touch. Stainless braid will act like a hacksaw if it moves > against another material. >> >> Michael >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil >> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. >> >> >> I've been thinking of using these.... Does anyone have any experience > >> with them? >> >> http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14588.html >> >> >> Thanks, >> Phil >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lenny Iszak [mailto:lenard@rapiddecision.com] >> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:24 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. >> >> --> >> >> Myron, >> >> I got the braided stainless brake line kit from Bonaco Inc. It >> includes the blue fittings and the brake lines for the gear legs too. >> If I remember correctly the total cost was $160 + shipping. Couple of >> weeks before that I paid $120 for a single brake line for my Katana. >> Gotta love experimental airplanes... >> >> If you search the archives you'll find a few posts about thread >> sealants. Using that information I decided to use teflon paste, making > >> sure not to get it on the first thread. >> >> Regards, >> Lenny >> #40803 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221329#221329 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. From: ricksked@embarqmail.com Call Brett....they have a complete kit with all the fittings for the .RV 10. Calling him is much better service and easier ordering Rick Sked 40185 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Perry, Phil" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. Does anyone have a complete list of Bonaco part numbers for a full RV-10 installation??? -----Original Message----- From: Deems Davis [mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. Another little known fact is that Brett (Bonaco) has a variety of colors for the teflon sleves. I ordered black for the brake cylinders themselves. (They even have Hot Pink, to satisfy your wildest interior design plans! Deems RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > --> > > Take note that that one does NOT come with the AN fittings. For those you will need: > > http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14589.html > > Why not just go with the Bonaco lines which are less expensive ($20 less with shipping when I got them), and come with all the fittings, in addition to the lines to run down the legs, and a anti chafe sleeve on all the lines? Not to mention Bonaco does lines for a living. If you don't want the gear leg runs you can let Brett know and that will knock another $45 off the price. I would also find out what the core of those lines are, I believe Bonaco's are Teflon. If you don't get lines with an anti chafe on them, make sure you protect any locations that the brake lines touch. Stainless braid will act like a hacksaw if it moves against another material. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. > > > I've been thinking of using these.... Does anyone have any experience > with them? > > http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-brake-lines-p-14588.html > > > Thanks, > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lenny Iszak [mailto:lenard@rapiddecision.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:24 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Brake system questions. > > --> > > Myron, > > I got the braided stainless brake line kit from Bonaco Inc. It > includes the blue fittings and the brake lines for the gear legs too. > If I remember correctly the total cost was $160 + shipping. Couple of > weeks before that I paid $120 for a single brake line for my Katana. > Gotta love experimental airplanes... > > If you search the archives you'll find a few posts about thread > sealants. Using that information I decided to use teflon paste, making > sure not to get it on the first thread. > > Regards, > Lenny > #40803 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221329#221329 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:35 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Push Rod Height in Tunnel From: "nukeflyboy" Jeff, If your concern is future access to the connector, you can still do this from under the riveted seat pans. Attach the mounting bracket with nutplates installed so the antenna can be screwed in from the exterior w/o access to the backside. With a sufficient size loop of coax you can then drop the whole connector out the bottom of the aircraft. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221656#221656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.