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1. 09:10 AM - Re: How to create epoxy threads (LarryRosen)
2. 12:21 PM - Re: First Flight & Phase 1 Completed for VH-OSH (John Jessen)
3. 06:03 PM - NW flyin at Arlington (David McNeill)
4. 06:40 PM - Warning--Aileron push rod interferences (Sheldon Olesen)
5. 07:35 PM - Re: Warning--Aileron push rod interferences (John Cox)
6. 07:46 PM - Re: Warning--Aileron push rod interferences (Tim Olson)
7. 08:28 PM - Re: NW flyin at Arlington (pascal)
8. 10:58 PM - Re: Warning--Aileron push rod interferences (Scott Schmidt)
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| Subject: | Re: How to create epoxy threads |
You could use a click bond bushing with a threaded center.
See them at
Larry Rosen
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| Subject: | First Flight & Phase 1 Completed for VH-OSH |
Beautiful plane! Congratulations!
John Jessen
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Evan & Tania
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First Flight & Phase 1 Completed for VH-OSH
Hi Everyone,
We are pleased to advise that our RV-10 "VH-OSH" had its first flight at
10:30am on 17 Dec 2008 at Hervey Bay Airport in Queensland, Australia
(yippee!!). We had to pinch ourselves a few times for it to really sink in.
The OSH call sign came about when you were all busy organising the RV10
group gathering for OSH 2008 earlier this year. We simply couldn't resist
using this registration for our plane when it was available at that time!
Someday we hope to get over to OSH to meet everyone.
The project began for us in Jan 2007 with the purchase of a partially
completed empennage kit. We assembled our aircraft in a makeshift 9m x 3m
gazebo in our small back garden (she got a big large for our double garage).
Regular support and help was provided by Colin Crittenden (General Build and
Test Pilot) and Jake Jansen (Avionics). VH-OSH now has 27hrs of flight time
and is performing well.
For those who are interested, we put in:
Mattituck Lycoming TMX IO-540 ( with one Lightspeed Plasma IIIB ignition)
Hartzel Prop Dynon EFIS (D100) and EMS (D120) PMA4000 Audio Panel Garmin
SL-30 Nav/Com Garmin 327 Transponder Trio EZ auto pilot
740kg empty weight with paint and upholstery.
Kindest regards and happy flying!
Evan and Tania Andrews
Queensland, Australia
VH-OSH now Flying!!!!!
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| Subject: | NW flyin at Arlington |
Having been to OSH for the last dozen? years (1996-2008) We are considering
going to ARO instead. Anybody been there? If so I would like to discuss the
best place to camp. Send me a phone and time and I will call you.
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| Subject: | Warning--Aileron push rod interferences |
I was sitting in my 10 checking out the controls for full travel when
I was shocked to find that the left aileron was stuck in the full up
position. I had no indication that the controls had any
interference. There was no rubbing sound, no tightness in certain
positions, no squealing metal rubbing together-- it just locked up.
I investigated and found that the shop head of an aileron push rod
rivet (W-1018 assembly) was stuck forward of the bottom edge of the
hole where the push rod passes through the rear spar (W-1007A &
W-1007D) to the aileron. I think the reason this was not discovered
earlier was that the rivet was the stop for that control surface. As
it wore, it became more rounded and finally jump the edge of the hole
and the square edge was solidly stuck forward of the hole. The
rivet in question was vertical to the hole. I had a similar problem
with the right aileron push rod except it was the manufactured head
and it squealed every time it went through the hole. It too was
vertical. With problems on both sides, I think that this may be more
than just my problem.
I have since enlarged the holes to eliminate the interferences. For
anyone still building, I would recommend enlarging the bottom of the
push rod hole and making sure the rivets are not vertical. There
maybe interference issues with the outboard side of the hole if the
rivets are skewed from vertical. For anyone flying, be sure to
inspect this area for adequate clearance.
I don't recall anyone else having this problem on the list, but given
the severity of the potential consequences this requires another
look. I am looking for a first flight around New Year's and this
problem could have been a disaster. My blood runs cold thinking
about a first flight with this problem lurking undetected.
Sheldon Olesen
#40080
N475PV Ready to fly; just waiting decent weather and snow & ice free
runway
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| Subject: | Warning--Aileron push rod interferences |
Great find, Sheldon. May all your future hours be uneventful.
Happy New Year.
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sheldon
Olesen
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Warning--Aileron push rod interferences
I was sitting in my 10 checking out the controls for full travel when
I was shocked to find that the left aileron was stuck in the full up
position. I had no indication that the controls had any
interference. There was no rubbing sound, no tightness in certain
positions, no squealing metal rubbing together-- it just locked up.
I investigated and found that the shop head of an aileron push rod
rivet (W-1018 assembly) was stuck forward of the bottom edge of the
hole where the push rod passes through the rear spar (W-1007A &
W-1007D) to the aileron. I think the reason this was not discovered
earlier was that the rivet was the stop for that control surface. As
it wore, it became more rounded and finally jump the edge of the hole
and the square edge was solidly stuck forward of the hole. The
rivet in question was vertical to the hole. I had a similar problem
with the right aileron push rod except it was the manufactured head
and it squealed every time it went through the hole. It too was
vertical. With problems on both sides, I think that this may be more
than just my problem.
I have since enlarged the holes to eliminate the interferences. For
anyone still building, I would recommend enlarging the bottom of the
push rod hole and making sure the rivets are not vertical. There
maybe interference issues with the outboard side of the hole if the
rivets are skewed from vertical. For anyone flying, be sure to
inspect this area for adequate clearance.
I don't recall anyone else having this problem on the list, but given
the severity of the potential consequences this requires another
look. I am looking for a first flight around New Year's and this
problem could have been a disaster. My blood runs cold thinking
about a first flight with this problem lurking undetected.
Sheldon Olesen
#40080
N475PV Ready to fly; just waiting decent weather and snow & ice free
runway
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| Subject: | Re: Warning--Aileron push rod interferences |
It's been a long time since this issue has been brought up, but
it has been brought up before. That hole where the aileron pushrod
goes through needs to be opened to have enough clearance to guarantee
that no rivets get hung up. And, the manufactured heads of the
rivets need to be flat enough not to stick up any extra. Most people
from the old days (back 2 years or so) discussed the need to
file open this hole a little more. Thanks for bringing it up again,
so that the more recent builders don't get bit by it. You're right,
it's definitely a place to inspect. I prepped mine well initially,
and had no problem, but I knew to watch for it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Sheldon Olesen wrote:
>
> I was sitting in my 10 checking out the controls for full travel when I
> was shocked to find that the left aileron was stuck in the full up
> position. I had no indication that the controls had any interference.
> There was no rubbing sound, no tightness in certain positions, no
> squealing metal rubbing together-- it just locked up.
>
> I investigated and found that the shop head of an aileron push rod rivet
> (W-1018 assembly) was stuck forward of the bottom edge of the hole where
> the push rod passes through the rear spar (W-1007A & W-1007D) to the
> aileron. I think the reason this was not discovered earlier was that
> the rivet was the stop for that control surface. As it wore, it became
> more rounded and finally jump the edge of the hole and the square edge
> was solidly stuck forward of the hole. The rivet in question was
> vertical to the hole. I had a similar problem with the right aileron
> push rod except it was the manufactured head and it squealed every time
> it went through the hole. It too was vertical. With problems on both
> sides, I think that this may be more than just my problem.
>
> I have since enlarged the holes to eliminate the interferences. For
> anyone still building, I would recommend enlarging the bottom of the
> push rod hole and making sure the rivets are not vertical. There maybe
> interference issues with the outboard side of the hole if the rivets are
> skewed from vertical. For anyone flying, be sure to inspect this area
> for adequate clearance.
>
> I don't recall anyone else having this problem on the list, but given
> the severity of the potential consequences this requires another look.
> I am looking for a first flight around New Year's and this problem could
> have been a disaster. My blood runs cold thinking about a first flight
> with this problem lurking undetected.
>
>
> Sheldon Olesen
> #40080
> N475PV Ready to fly; just waiting decent weather and snow & ice free runway
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NW flyin at Arlington |
I would be interested in hearing thoughts as well. OSH is too far for me
now ARO is half the drive and manageable and something I would consider
doing if it meant meeting some of those on this list..
Pascal
From: David McNeill
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: NW flyin at Arlington
Having been to OSH for the last dozen? years (1996-2008) We are
considering going to ARO instead. Anybody been there? If so I would like
to discuss the best place to camp. Send me a phone and time and I will
call you.
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| Subject: | Re: Warning--Aileron push rod interferences |
Mine was exactly like you mentioned and Tim mentioned as well.
I filed and opened up the hole to allow proper clearance. It probably should not
have occurred but it is an easy fix.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:37:57 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Warning--Aileron push rod interferences
I was sitting in my 10 checking out the controls for full travel when I was shocked
to find that the left aileron was stuck in the full up position. I had no
indication that the controls had any interference. There was no rubbing sound,
no tightness in certain positions, no squealing metal rubbing together-- it
just locked up.
I investigated and found that the shop head of an aileron push rod rivet (W-1018
assembly) was stuck forward of the bottom edge of the hole where the push rod
passes through the rear spar (W-1007A & W-1007D) to the aileron. I think the
reason this was not discovered earlier was that the rivet was the stop for that
control surface. As it wore, it became more rounded and finally jump the
edge of the hole and the square edge was solidly stuck forward of the hole.
The rivet in question was vertical to the hole. I had a similar problem with
the right aileron push rod except it was the manufactured head and it squealed
every time it went through the hole. It too was vertical. With problems on
both sides, I think that this may be more than just my problem.
I have since enlarged the holes to eliminate the interferences. For anyone still
building, I would recommend enlarging the bottom of the push rod hole and
making sure the rivets are not vertical. There maybe interference issues with
the outboard side of the hole if the rivets are skewed from vertical. For anyone
flying, be sure to inspect this area for adequate clearance.
I don't recall anyone else having this problem on the list, but given the severity
of the potential consequences this requires another look. I am looking for
a first flight around New Year's and this problem could have been a disaster.
My blood runs cold thinking about a first flight with this problem lurking
undetected.
Sheldon Olesen
#40080
N475PV Ready to fly; just waiting decent weather and snow & ice free runway
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