---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/02/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:26 AM - Re: applying weld-on to vertical surface (John Hilger) 2. 10:45 AM - GPS Serial Data to Garmin GTX-327 Transponder (Matt Dralle) 3. 11:29 AM - Re: GPS Serial Data to Garmin GTX-327 Transponder (Tim Olson) 4. 11:29 AM - Brake Reservoir on firewall (johngoodman) 5. 11:37 AM - Re: Brake Reservoir on firewall (Rene Felker) 6. 03:46 PM - Re: Elevator attachment (Steven DiNieri) 7. 06:46 PM - cabin top at hinge location (John Gonzalez) 8. 07:03 PM - Re: Elevator attachment (Space Cadet) 9. 07:12 PM - Re: cabin top at hinge location (pascal) 10. 07:13 PM - Re: cabin top at hinge location (ricksked@embarqmail.com) 11. 07:32 PM - Re: cabin top at hinge location (Jim Berry) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:48 AM PST US From: "John Hilger" Subject: Re: RV10-List: applying weld-on to vertical surface Tom That is the way did all of the windows and it worked very well. Sorry no pictures (there was no time). Rehearse for each window time is very critical. So is temperature, I wouldn't try it above 70 deg. Check Tim Olson's site for additional details. John H ----- Original Message ----- From: "tomhanaway" Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 3:20 PM Subject: RV10-List: applying weld-on to vertical surface > > Without getting into a weld-on war, it appears that one of the > difficulties is that the weld-on tends to run/drip on vertical surfaces > like the rear windows or door windows (if installed with door attached to > cabin top). > > Would it help to put the sealant on the window itself rather than the > cabin top? This way the acrylic window could be laid flat, sealant put on > in taped off area of window with minimal dripping, and then placed into > the cabin top joggles. Still would be runoff/drip at this point but might > work better?? > > Thoughts?? > > Thanks in advance, > Tom Hanaway > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222256#222256 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:31 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: GPS Serial Data to Garmin GTX-327 Transponder Listers, I've tried sending two different sources of NMEA 0183 data at 4800/9600/19200/38400/57600 baud rates to my Garmin GTX-327 on both serial input ports 1 (db25 Pin 2) and port 2 (db25 pin 19), and configured for "GPS" input. But I don't get anything on the GTX-327 serial input test display. I have been successful at getting AirData Z-format from the GRT EFIS at 9600 baud into either of the GTX-327 serial ports, so the ports are good. The NMEA 0183 data registers correctly on other devices reading it so the GPS serial output seem fine. The GTX-327 just won't seem to see the GPS data for some reason. Am I doing something wrong? Has anyone else tried this successfully? Thanks! Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:00 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: GPS Serial Data to Garmin GTX-327 Transponder I'm not positive of this, but I think most Garmin stuff will not work with NMEA 0183, only Aviation format. It makes working with some things a bit tough. So the GTX-327 probably just doesn't understand it. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Matt Dralle wrote: > > > Listers, > > I've tried sending two different sources of NMEA 0183 data at > 4800/9600/19200/38400/57600 baud rates to my Garmin GTX-327 on both > serial input ports 1 (db25 Pin 2) and port 2 (db25 pin 19), and > configured for "GPS" input. But I don't get anything on the GTX-327 > serial input test display. I have been successful at getting AirData > Z-format from the GRT EFIS at 9600 baud into either of the GTX-327 > serial ports, so the ports are good. The NMEA 0183 data registers > correctly on other devices reading it so the GPS serial output seem > fine. The GTX-327 just won't seem to see the GPS data for some > reason. > > Am I doing something wrong? Has anyone else tried this successfully? > > > > > Thanks! > > Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:14 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Brake Reservoir on firewall From: "johngoodman" I'm in the process of mounting the Brake Reservoir on the engine side of the firewall as per the plans. The 3 washers on an AN3-5A bolt don't really get the reservoir far enough away to clear the upper part of the firewall. I'm thinking that another washer and longer bolt will solve the problem, but there might be a clearance issue later on with the engine. Any comments? John -------- #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222413#222413 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:26 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Brake Reservoir on firewall Just remounted mine yesterday (fixing a leak) during the annual. Only used two washers the first time, but added a third yesterday, did not have any clearance problems with only 2 washers. But, I don't see a problem with going with 4 washers. Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: RV10-List: Brake Reservoir on firewall I'm in the process of mounting the Brake Reservoir on the engine side of the firewall as per the plans. The 3 washers on an AN3-5A bolt don't really get the reservoir far enough away to clear the upper part of the firewall. I'm thinking that another washer and longer bolt will solve the problem, but there might be a clearance issue later on with the engine. Any comments? John -------- #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222413#222413 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:54 PM PST US From: "Steven DiNieri" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevator attachment Jim, I have (had) the exact same situation. I went crazy trying to find out what I had done wrong, but in the end I simply made the call to aircraft spruce and all was right again.....untill I pushed the rudder into the hangar door moving the plane around.....but that=99s another story.. steven dinieri iflyrv10.com From: jfg@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: RV10-List: Elevator attachment OK... It seems like the closer I get to setting this beast on wheels, the more questions I have! I was attaching the elevators to the horizontal stabilizer (HS) this morning, and of course some adjustment was needed to establish the 1/8" gap between the elevator counterweight arm of the elevator and the side edge of the HS... nor surprise there, as it's not a perfect world, and the manual said to expect it. I had two choices to make the adjustment: 1) tighten the inboard rod end bearing (REB) or 2) loosen the outboard REB. Because there was no clearance to tighten (shorten) the inboard REB, I loosened the outboard REB in several increments. By the time I achieved a gap that did not rub the counterweight arm against the HS end, I had extended the recommended 7/8" dimension between the centerline of the bearing and the forward face of the forward elevator spar to about 1-1/32". Everywhere else I've read about the REBs says that half the threads must be inserted into the nut/plate, and this is far less than half of the threads. Has anyone else encountered this, and, if so, what did you do about it? Or should I not be concerned with this amount of exposed thread in THIS location as lon g as I tighten the jam nut appropriately? It would almost seem that a longer REB is called for than what is provided in the kit... Jim Gilmore, #40317 Legacy wings/empennage/fuse complete except for final assembly and cabin cover hell.... ... and of course engine/avionics... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- See which stars were naughty and nice this holiday season with the PopEater Toolbar. Get it now! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:29 PM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RV10-List: cabin top at hinge location Has anyone done anything to minimize the drag caused by the opening in the cabin top at the hinge locations. I was thinking about making a 4 kevlar sh eets that would lay flat in the slipstream but be able to flex up when the doors are open=2C but the problem I see is that the metal hinge in a few lo cations is at the same level as the cabin top and the sheet would not be ab le to be recessed. I have fared those location in and a few spots the metal was exposed by the sanding.Ideas???ThanksJOhn G. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:07 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Elevator attachment From: "Space Cadet" I'll add to Carl's excellent write-up that I did a little filing of the elevator horn skins on mine to get a better gap. Was not much though. I did measure more than just the end gap locations though, checking along the entire top and bottom skin of both pieces during movement which might have contributed to a little more work. And I had to adjust one bearing a full turn more than the other, but in the end, my bearings also were very close to the prescribed dimensions. Dwight Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222489#222489 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:42 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: cabin top at hinge location probably no surprise but Deems did do something. went through these xacts questions. When I asked Deems this is part of what he sent. Here's some links to some pics: >> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20The%20Home%20Stretch/slides/DSC06152.htm l. >> >> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2045%20Cabin%20Doors%20and%20Transparancie s/slides/DSC06166.html >> >> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20PP%20Painting%20Preparation/slides/DSC06 323.html >> >> >> follow the 'next' link on the above to see several pics. as far as the recessed: I used a Dremel, with a router bit and their plastic mini router fence. I set it for about 1/16" depth so that the fiberglass covers would sit below the airstream (hopefully). From: John Gonzalez Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: RV10-List: cabin top at hinge location Has anyone done anything to minimize the drag caused by the opening in the cabin top at the hinge locations. I was thinking about making a 4 kevlar sheets that would lay flat in the slipstream but be able to flex up when the doors are open, but the problem I see is that the metal hinge in a few locations is at the same level as the cabin top and the sheet would not be able to be recessed. I have fared those location in and a few spots the metal was exposed by the sanding. Ideas??? Thanks JOhn G. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: cabin top at hinge location From: ricksked@embarqmail.com John, Deems made some glass covers and Robin Marks made aluminu m...I went with the aluminum ones...if you checkout Deems or Robins site you can see both examples Rick S 40185 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: John Gonzalez Subject: RV10-List: cabin top at hinge location Has anyone done anything to minimize the drag caused by the opening in the cabin top at the hinge locations. I was thinking about making a 4 kevlar sheets that w ould lay flat in the slipstream but be able to flex u p when the doors are open, but the problem I see is that the metal hinge in a few locations is at the same level as the cabin top and the sheet would not b e able to be recessed. I have fared those location in and a few spots the metal was exposed by the sanding .Ideas???ThanksJOhn G. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:29 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: cabin top at hinge location From: "Jim Berry" John, I did not do anything over the top of the hinges, but I did clean up the gap between the edge of the hinges and the recess in the cabin top. After the hinges were shimmed to final position I removed them and wrapped each hinge with 3 layers of duct tape on the edges only. Also covered the top and bottom of each hinge with release tape. After reinstallation, the gap was filled with flox, leaving a gap of about 0.020" between hinge edge and top. It also cleaned up the irregular radius of the original cabin edge. Jim Berry 40482 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222494#222494 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.