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Sun 01/04/09


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 02:28 AM - Re: First flight--N475PV (David Maib)
     2. 04:43 AM - Re: GPS and Fiberglass (Deems Davis)
     3. 05:17 AM - Re: NW flyin at Arlington (Kelly McMullen)
     4. 05:23 AM - XC trip (Rob Kermanj)
     5. 08:40 AM - Re: GPS and Fiberglass (richard sipp)
     6. 08:58 AM - Re: First Flight Video N110EE  (Marcus Cooper)
     7. 09:25 AM - Preferred tablet (John Jessen)
     8. 09:35 AM - Re: NW flyin at Arlington (John Jessen)
     9. 10:29 AM - RV-10 Rudder trim tab (started working on it today) (John Trollinger)
    10. 02:02 PM - Re: First flight--N475PV (Sheldon Olesen)
    11. 04:10 PM - Re: Preferred tablet (William Curtis)
    12. 04:28 PM - Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] Superior Air Parts Chapter 11 (pascal)
    13. 05:03 PM - Re: Preferred tablet (John Jessen)
    14. 05:38 PM - Re: Preferred tablet (Tim Olson)
    15. 05:49 PM - Re: Preferred tablet (William Curtis)
    16. 06:10 PM - Re: Preferred tablet (Larry Rosen)
    17. 06:29 PM - Re: XC trip (William Curtis)
    18. 06:47 PM - Re: GPS and Fiberglass (westexflyboy)
    19. 07:11 PM - Re: Re: GPS and Fiberglass (Deems Davis)
    20. 07:49 PM - Re: Re: GPS and Fiberglass (pascal)
    21. 11:22 PM - Re: GPS and Fiberglass (AirMike)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:28:36 AM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight--N475PV
    Congratulations Sheldon! Great news. I look forward to seeing your airplane. David Maib 40559 On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote: I hit the jackpot weather wise yesterday for a WI winter. The sky was sunny, the wind under 10 and right down the runway, the temp was about 15, and both the plane and pilot were ready. With just one person on board these planes fairly leap into the air and the acceleration is exciting. I thought there might be an issue with the airspeed indicator so the plan was to accelerate to 40 and check if the ASI was alive. The plane blew past 40 and was flying before I could check to see if the ASI was working. It wasn't. With no ASI there was no need for any slow flight so I kept the power up to help break in the engine. I made lazy circles near the airport and after about 35 minutes made an uneventful landing. The plane seemed well rigged and flew ball centered. I've fixed a few minor glitches and am ready to go again--as soon as the 6-8" snow storm passes through tonight. For those of you who are still building, there is an end to it and when that end comes there is a huge smile that is still with me a day later. Sheldon Olesen N475PV-Flying--.6 hour


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    Time: 04:43:35 AM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS and Fiberglass
    Chase, here's a link to an Archive thread that deals with the same questions you are asking. http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=24874467?KEYS=antenna_&_fiberglass?LISTNAME=RV10?HITNUMBER=54?SERIAL=0428527735?SHOWBUTTONS=YES In the end I dropped the gyro stabilized gimble approach and mounted them to the top of the Cabin Cover Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ westexflyboy wrote: > > Have any of you RV-10 builders experimented with GPS antennas installed in the overhead console? (i.e. inside the cabin but not up on the dash) I am wondering if the fiberglass cabin cover impedes the signal. I want to hide the two GPSMAP 496 antennas. Any ideas >


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    Time: 05:17:17 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: NW flyin at Arlington
    These were the two I saw there besides 410RV. Axys Air also had one under construction on display. Vernon Smith wrote: > Arlington is a nice airshow which we have attend for most of the last > 5 years. It is about a quarter to a third of the size of Sun-N-Fun. > Because it is within a few weeks of AirVenture a number of vendors > don't attend. > > Last year we had at least 2 if not 3 RV-10 not including Van's factory > planes. Other highlights include a nice night aerobatic show as well > as an open air theater that shows aviation movies after dark. There > are also some informitive forums. > >


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    Time: 05:23:21 AM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: XC trip
    > > I have been very busy working and have not written much. I thought > this picture might interest those who believe that the definition > of word Headwind is the wind that blows from your destination. > > On my trip to Las cruces, NM this past week, I encountered headwinds > that i have never seen before. If you look closely, you will notice > 72 knot winds coming from 232 deg and 65 knot headwind component! I > crawled for the the last 30 min of the flight. On this trip, > typical winds at 12K ft. were consistently over 50 knots. > > Happy flying! > > > IMG_2060.JPG > >


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    Time: 08:40:04 AM PST US
    From: "richard sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS and Fiberglass
    I mounted the 496 antennas under the engine cowling; working fine so far at 90 hours. Currently vacationing in GA on St. Simons Island with friends, off to Ft. Meyers tomorrow for a few days. What a magic carpet. Dick Sipp N110DV ----- Original Message ----- From: "westexflyboy" <airplanedriver@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:11 AM Subject: RV10-List: GPS and Fiberglass > > Have any of you RV-10 builders experimented with GPS antennas installed in > the overhead console? (i.e. inside the cabin but not up on the dash) I am > wondering if the fiberglass cabin cover impedes the signal. I want to > hide the two GPSMAP 496 antennas. Any ideas? > > -------- > Chase Snodgrass > Presidio, Texas > 40820/40821 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222757#222757 > > >


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    Time: 08:58:55 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: First Flight Video N110EE
    Robin, Great pictures and video. FWIW the music came through and was excellent as well. Have fun now that the phase 1 is complete, and please post pictures of the paint job. Marcus Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: RV10-List: First Flight Video N110EE 10 List, Here is a rough video of the first flight of N110EE that happened way back in 2008. N110EE has 40 hours, has completed Phase 1 and is in the paint shop now. Photos in a couple of weeks. http://video.yahoo.com/watch/4220787/11343485 Robin Note: I tried to upload this video to YouTube and Google Videos but both systems sampled the music and blocked the posting of the video due to copyright infringement (using copyright music). So now I have to become a composer and learn about 20 instruments.


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    Time: 09:25:44 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
    Subject: Preferred tablet
    Many of you are using tablet portable computers with charts, etc. I've done some searching through the archives. But perhaps there are new opinions. Therefore, from your perspective, which is the preferred tablet platform and why? Assume multiple uses besides in the plane. That is, replacing a notebook. Also, assume IFR and thus which software product have you found to be to your likening? It's time to help the economy. Besides, my laptop just went belly up. Many thanks in advance. John Jessen


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    Time: 09:35:20 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
    Subject: NW flyin at Arlington
    Attendance was down this last time, both attendees and vendors, so if you can get there, do. It is unfortunate that it is so close to OSH. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:12 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: NW flyin at Arlington These were the two I saw there besides 410RV. Axys Air also had one under construction on display. Vernon Smith wrote: Arlington is a nice airshow which we have attend for most of the last 5 years. It is about a quarter to a third of the size of Sun-N-Fun. Because it is within a few weeks of AirVenture a number of vendors don't attend. Last year we had at least 2 if not 3 RV-10 not including Van's factory planes. Other highlights include a nice night aerobatic show as well as an open air theater that shows aviation movies after dark. There are also some informitive forums.


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    Time: 10:29:38 AM PST US
    From: "John Trollinger" <john@trollingers.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Rudder trim tab (started working on it today)
    Here is the start of my rudder trim tab. I created a nice big hole in my brand new rudder skin today, but I think it came out pretty good. I have also made a visio template that you can lay down on the skin to get the access panel where Tim Olson put his. If anyone wants it let me know and I will clean it up some and send it out. Here are pics of today's work http://www.trollingers.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1383 John Trollinger #40923 Emp kit


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    Time: 02:02:05 PM PST US
    From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
    Subject: Re: First flight--N475PV
    Tim, Thanks for the note. I sure would like to get an air to air shot of my plane. I need to get a few more hours in it to get comfortable leaving the immediate area. Right now I am trying to operate off of dry runways. Snowy runways were always an issue for my Long-EZ although I did use them. The plane seems to be working fine an I am still smiling. Sheldon On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Sheldon, that is totally awesome!! So you flew on 1/2/09, correct? > I'll try to find a good weather day and maybe come fly with you > while you're boring holes in the sky. Maybe I can get some good > photos for you with a snowy background. Good luck with it > all! > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Sheldon Olesen wrote: >> I hit the jackpot weather wise yesterday for a WI winter. The sky >> was sunny, the wind under 10 and right down the runway, the temp >> was about 15, and both the plane and pilot were ready. With just >> one person on board these planes fairly leap into the air and the >> acceleration is exciting. I thought there might be an issue with >> the airspeed indicator so the plan was to accelerate to 40 and >> check if the ASI was alive. The plane blew past 40 and was flying >> before I could check to see if the ASI was working. It wasn't. >> With no ASI there was no need for any slow flight so I kept the >> power up to help break in the engine. I made lazy circles near >> the airport and after about 35 minutes made an uneventful >> landing. The plane seemed well rigged and flew ball centered. >> I've fixed a few minor glitches and am ready to go again--as soon >> as the 6-8" snow storm passes through tonight. >> For those of you who are still building, there is an end to it and >> when that end comes there is a huge smile that is still with me a >> day later. >> Sheldon Olesen >> N475PV-Flying--.6 hour > >


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    Time: 04:10:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Preferred tablet
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    Sony PRS-700BC eBook Reader. Not a laptop but simpler to use in a cockpit. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001HHZ1S6/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=AN8LN2YPKS7DF&v=glance William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com> > > > Many of you are using tablet portable computers with charts, etc. I've done > some searching through the archives. But perhaps there are new opinions. > Therefore, from your perspective, which is the preferred tablet platform and > why? Assume multiple uses besides in the plane. That is, replacing a > notebook. Also, assume IFR and thus which software product have you found > to be to your likening? It's time to help the economy. Besides, my laptop > just went belly up. > > Many thanks in advance. > > John Jessen > >


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    Time: 04:28:00 PM PST US
    From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
    Subject: Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] Superior Air Parts Chapter 11
    Saw this on the Socal list.. thought I would share! Pascal From: Gary A. Sobek Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 3:20 PM Subject: [SoCAL-RVlist] Superior Air Parts Chapter 11 Maybe this is not news to anyone. Dec 31, 2008; Superior Air Parts files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. http://www.trollerbk.com/portal/?module=intro&c=966ADDDF-B8B4-4D49-27 3185922296B9FB&showcase=1 Lycoming has agreed to buy Superior Air Parts assets. http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=02e24296-1b63-4c7a-a8 a7-3b1a245022d4&cid=0&ei=lPheSdrmH6CawAG08OGRAg&usg=AFQjCNGNNbNNzbO _5CZC5iehMrMIn-tL2w If you know or find out more, please let everyone know. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- >From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 1New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New web site? Drive traffic now. Get your business on Yahoo! search. All-Bran Day 10 Club on Yahoo! Groups Feel better with fiber. . __,_._,___


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    Time: 05:03:38 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
    Subject: Preferred tablet
    Interesting. What s/w do you use with this? Sony PRS-700BC eBook Reader. Not a laptop but simpler to use in a cockpit. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001HHZ1S6/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5 Fencoding=UTF8&m=AN8LN2YPKS7DF&v=glance


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    Time: 05:38:00 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Preferred tablet
    John, My advice would be if you're going to look for something to use mainly in the plane, then look at all the models that are available from some of the aviation software companies, like Golden Eagle Chart Case, and Seattle Avionics. They sell the models that probably work best for plane use. I like the motion tablets because you can get the View Anywhere and Ultra View Anywhere displays, which are nice for in the daylight. Most average laptops/tablets will get real washed out in sunlight. So there is benefit to paying more. I just got done putting a SSD by using a CF card into my LE1600, and swapped memory up to a 2GB module. The CF Card thing cost me about $110, and the memory about $25-30. It seems to work pretty good, although in terms of current horsepower, the dual-core stuff will blow it away. Those LE1600's with ViewAnywhere screens can be had for about $800 or so, as a cheap way to get into it. One of the guys at Seattle Avionics really loves his convertable tablet...I think it may be a fujitsu or something. I think you'll find that opinions and usages vary wildly. While this page has some pretty non-current info on it, I did recently update it. http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Chart_Software.html I'm flying with Voyager software, myself, so have no need for paper any longer. Interestingly, there was just an article in Aviation Consumer about the 696, and after reading that, I am convinced that it really is lacking in filling the real needs of what pilots of this late decade really need. Turns out they won't ever be doing geo-referenced charts on it, and there are literally dozens of features that it won't do compared with either of the most popular EFB software packages. Either Chart Case or Voyager EFB really blow it away in capabilities for the most part. And, it's great to be able to use the machine for more than just a GPS. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive John Jessen wrote: > > Many of you are using tablet portable computers with charts, etc. I've done > some searching through the archives. But perhaps there are new opinions. > Therefore, from your perspective, which is the preferred tablet platform and > why? Assume multiple uses besides in the plane. That is, replacing a > notebook. Also, assume IFR and thus which software product have you found > to be to your likening? It's time to help the economy. Besides, my laptop > just went belly up. > > Many thanks in advance. > > John Jessen


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    Time: 05:49:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Preferred tablet
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    As an eBook reader, it has a proprietary OS with the specific purpose of displaying eBooks and certain other (PDF, DOC, TXT, JPG, BMP, MP3, etc) digital formats. To try it out just put some PDF approach plates on an SD card and take it to a local store (Target, Best Buy, etc) that carries these units. Once you plug in the SD card, the unit will display a listing of all recognized files. Pull up a plate and see how you like it. The earlier 500 and 505 units worked fine but an approach plate was very tiny on the display. It was legible but very small. William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com> > > > Interesting. What s/w do you use with this? > > > Sony PRS-700BC eBook Reader. Not a laptop but simpler to use in a cockpit. > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001HHZ1S6/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5 > Fencoding=UTF8&m=AN8LN2YPKS7DF&v=glance > >


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    Time: 06:10:55 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Preferred tablet
    The ebook readers are gray scale. They look great in bright sunlight but require lighting at night. Larry William Curtis wrote: > > As an eBook reader, it has a proprietary OS with the specific purpose of displaying eBooks and certain other (PDF, DOC, TXT, JPG, BMP, MP3, etc) digital formats. To try it out just put some PDF approach plates on an SD card and take it to a local store (Target, Best Buy, etc) that carries these units. Once you plug in the SD card, the unit will display a listing of all recognized files. Pull up a plate and see how you like it. > > The earlier 500 and 505 units worked fine but an approach plate was very tiny on the display. It was legible but very small. > > William > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ > > -------- Original Message -------- > >> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com> >> >> >> Interesting. What s/w do you use with this? >> >> >> Sony PRS-700BC eBook Reader. Not a laptop but simpler to use in a cockpit. >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001HHZ1S6/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5 >> Fencoding=UTF8&m=AN8LN2YPKS7DF&v=glance >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:29:04 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: XC trip
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    During the holidays, I decided to fly beyond the Mississippi all the way to the west coast. I flew from Quakertown, PA to San Diego, CA (Carlsbad) and back. The normal 145KT Cardinal RG saw ground speeds of 90-100 KT during the westbound legs over Texas, and New Mexico. The weather gods were karmic on the return trip however as I saw ground speeds of 202KTs for brief periods and 190KTs for extended periods--19 hours west bound, slightly over 14 hours eastbound. Legs were: Quakertown, PA - Knoxville, TN Knoxville, PA - Pine Brook, AR Pine Brook, AR - Wichita Falls, TX Wichita Falls, TX - El Paso, TX El Paso, TX - Demming, NM Demming, NM - San Diego (Carlsbad) CA. San Diego (Carlsbad) CA - Grand Canyon, AZ - Gallup, NM Gallup, NM - Wichita, KS Wichita, KS - Sidney, OH Sidney, OH - Quakertown, PA William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/


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    Time: 06:47:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS and Fiberglass
    From: "westexflyboy" <airplanedriver@gmail.com>
    Thank you Deems, but I couldn't get that link to work. do not archive -------- Chase Snodgrass, CFI Presidio, Texas www.flybigbend.com 40820/40821 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222902#222902


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    Time: 07:11:45 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS and Fiberglass
    I just tried th elink and it seems to work, perhaps the email program warpped it and you only got a part of it. As a back up go to the Matronics archive and search on 'fiberglass and antenna placement' there are a number of posts around Sep 07 that are relevant. Deems westexflyboy wrote: > > Thank you Deems, but I couldn't get that link to work. > > do not archive > > -------- > Chase Snodgrass, CFI > Presidio, Texas > www.flybigbend.com > 40820/40821 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222902#222902 > > >


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    Time: 07:49:26 PM PST US
    From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS and Fiberglass
    try doing a search Match: #54 Message: #12814 From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> Subject: Re: Fiberglass and antenna placement -------------------------------------------------- From: "westexflyboy" <airplanedriver@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: GPS and Fiberglass > > Thank you Deems, but I couldn't get that link to work. > > do not archive > > -------- > Chase Snodgrass, CFI > Presidio, Texas > www.flybigbend.com > 40820/40821 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222902#222902 > > >


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    Time: 11:22:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS and Fiberglass
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    here is one installation. The inside job seen at OSH on 2007. I was told by th avionics shop that it will reduce the life of the antenna, so I went with two on top of the dash -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in &quot;09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222928#222928 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1010294_135.jpg




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