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1. 12:34 AM - Re: Powered tow bars (David Maib)
2. 05:42 AM - Fw: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep (Kelly McMullen)
3. 05:58 AM - Re: Fw: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep (Tim Olson)
4. 06:18 AM - Re: Fw: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep (Kelly McMullen)
5. 06:31 AM - Re: Powered tow bars (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
6. 06:33 AM - Re: Powered tow bars (BELTEDAIR@aol.com)
7. 07:21 AM - Re: Powered tow bars (Tim Olson)
8. 08:59 AM - Re: Powered tow bars (Ed Godfrey)
9. 09:49 AM - Re: Fw: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep (Robin Marks)
10. 10:12 AM - Re: Fuel Flow (Bill DeRouchey)
11. 10:15 AM - Re: Powered tow bars (Jesse Saint)
12. 10:22 AM - Re: Fw: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep (Tim Olson)
13. 10:58 AM - Re: Fuel Flow (pascal)
14. 11:11 AM - Audio Jacks (johngoodman)
15. 11:35 AM - Re: Fw: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep (Robin Marks)
16. 11:45 AM - Re: Audio Jacks (SteinAir, Inc.)
17. 12:04 PM - Re: Fw: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep (Tim Olson)
18. 12:14 PM - Re: Audio Jacks (johngoodman)
19. 12:27 PM - Re: Fw: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep (LarryRosen)
20. 12:40 PM - Re: Re: Audio Jacks (linn Walters)
21. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Audio Jacks (SteinAir, Inc.)
22. 05:31 PM - Re: Audio Jacks (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
23. 05:34 PM - Re: Audio Jacks (johngoodman)
24. 06:22 PM - Old subject revisited (McGANN, Ron)
25. 07:20 PM - Re: Old subject revisited (Rene)
26. 07:35 PM - Re: Old subject revisited (Robin Marks)
27. 08:44 PM - Erroneous Plans sequence on elevators (Kelly McMullen)
28. 08:45 PM - Questions - Help! (partner14)
29. 09:15 PM - Re: Erroneous Plans sequence on elevators (Perry, Phil)
30. 09:25 PM - Re: Questions - Help! (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
31. 09:38 PM - Re: Erroneous Plans sequence on elevators (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | Re: Powered tow bars |
I have the Powertow 12 Volt model as well. I worked with the folks at
Powertow and they came up with a modified set of extenders that look
like they are going to work fine with the nose gear fairing. However,
I won't know for sure until it gets back from the paint shop and I
get it put back together. Powertow folks have been very good to work
with. It is an expensive piece of equipment, but I am very pleased
with it. I used it quite a bit during my phase 1.
David Maib
40559
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On Jan 7, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
This is the one I have...
http://www.powertow.com/12V.html
Works great, I have a slight up hill into the hanger and a lip in the
hanger. Doesn't fit right with the fairing on the nose wheel, so I
have a
little bit of work to do on it to make it work a little better.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sheldon
Olesen
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Powered tow bars
After finding out that I am too weak and puny to pull my 10 back in
the hanger by myself, I'm in the market for a powered tow bar or
winch. Any recommendations?
Sheldon Olesen
N475PV--0.6 hours
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| Subject: | Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep |
For those considering EFBs and equivalents, a user report:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mike Caban <mcaban@semco-inc.com>
Subject: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
Hi Folks,
Since I had free access to a Sony Reader PRS-505, I decided to give the
www.readerplates.com product a try.
1st: purchase a minimum 2GB SD or Sony pro duo card (I got an 8GB unit off
ebay from China for $20 and yes, it works just fine).
The readerplates subscription ($10/month) can be cancelled at any time so I
was only putting $10 at risk.
Takes a good while to get the file unless you are on a nice corporate or T1
connection to get the 1.3 GB of download.
All the IAP's, SIDS & STARS are in there and are easily placed on the 2GB
card that you have purchased, either with the card in the Sony Reader or in
an adapter connected to your computer for transfer.
A little fiddling with the PRS-505 to get the buttonology down but it gets
you there to any state, city and airport combination you navigate to. Speed
of page turns is decent and the battery life on the thing is quite a few
hours (how many I don't know, but I played with the unit for a couple of
hours and the battery did not move off full).
The screen technology uses encapsulated ink that is turned on and off
(creating a pixel or not) by some sort of electrical pulse, therefore, once
you hit the ink capsule with energy you're done using power. So energy use
only occurs during page "turns". The encapsulation technology is an area
that I am working with my client so we had one of these units on hand.
Readability in office conditions and outside was good for me. In low light
conditions you'll need an overhead light or flashlight pretty much as if you
were using a paper chart.
Your near vision eyesight will need to be in good shape. I do not think that
20/40 near vision will get you there BWTHDIK......My eye doctor keeps me
well tuned and with my glasses (20/20 near vision) the reader plate size was
no problem in the full view and in the larger section view. With my contacts
and cheater readers I was not too keen on relying on for a critical frequent
or DH number. This is about the only caution I would have on this unit is
the near vision eyesight for those of us who have passed into that eyesight
change, needs to be in very good shape. <vbg>
This unit won't change my SOP of having 8.5 x 11 paper printed charts for my
destinations and possible alternates, however, for $10/month I have every US
chart at my fingertips in a device that does not cost several AMU (~$250),
does not rely on a rotating hard drive, does not use a Bill Gates OS and has
a battery life that exceeds the endurance of my 136 gallons useable fuel.
All in all, I'm inclined to give it the CSOB thumbs up!
See a narrative and some screen shots here:
http://www.csobeech.com/csob-sony.html
Mike
N2023W
1965 B-55/TC-971
KDTO Denton, TX
<mailto:mike@michaelcaban.com> mike@michaelcaban.com
<http://www.csobeech.com/> http://www.CSOBeech.com
<http://picasaweb.google.com/michaelcaban/BeechBaronN2023W>
http://picasaweb.google.com/michaelcaban/BeechBaronN2023W
"The flight is the reason, the destination is only an excuse!"
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep |
This one sounds like Approach plates only though, right?
So not a GPS enabled box, and no charts...just plates
from what it sounds like. At $120/yr, it isn't that
much more to go $199 and get the IFR ChartData subscription
with Voyager and get a ton more function and many more
charts:
This page gives renewal prices and the links point to
a page that shows what all you get.
https://www.seattleavionics.com/ecommerce/buy1.aspx?CouponCode=Renew
The main difference is, this would require a real laptop/tablet
to run on.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Kelly McMullen wrote:
> For those considering EFBs and equivalents, a user report:
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mike Caban <mcaban@semco-inc.com>
> Date: Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:40 PM
> Subject: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
> To: beech-owners@beechcraft.org
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Since I had free access to a Sony Reader PRS-505, I decided to give the
> www.readerplates.com product a try.
>
> 1st: purchase a minimum 2GB SD or Sony pro duo card (I got an 8GB unit off
> ebay from China for $20 and yes, it works just fine).
>
> The readerplates subscription ($10/month) can be cancelled at any time so I
> was only putting $10 at risk.
>
> Takes a good while to get the file unless you are on a nice corporate or T1
> connection to get the 1.3 GB of download.
>
> All the IAP's, SIDS & STARS are in there and are easily placed on the 2GB
> card that you have purchased, either with the card in the Sony Reader or in
> an adapter connected to your computer for transfer.
>
> A little fiddling with the PRS-505 to get the buttonology down but it gets
> you there to any state, city and airport combination you navigate to. Speed
> of page turns is decent and the battery life on the thing is quite a few
> hours (how many I don't know, but I played with the unit for a couple of
> hours and the battery did not move off full).
>
> The screen technology uses encapsulated ink that is turned on and off
> (creating a pixel or not) by some sort of electrical pulse, therefore, once
> you hit the ink capsule with energy you're done using power. So energy use
> only occurs during page "turns". The encapsulation technology is an area
> that I am working with my client so we had one of these units on hand.
>
> Readability in office conditions and outside was good for me. In low light
> conditions you'll need an overhead light or flashlight pretty much as if you
> were using a paper chart.
>
> Your near vision eyesight will need to be in good shape. I do not think that
> 20/40 near vision will get you there BWTHDIK......My eye doctor keeps me
> well tuned and with my glasses (20/20 near vision) the reader plate size was
> no problem in the full view and in the larger section view. With my contacts
> and cheater readers I was not too keen on relying on for a critical frequent
> or DH number. This is about the only caution I would have on this unit is
> the near vision eyesight for those of us who have passed into that eyesight
> change, needs to be in very good shape. <vbg>
>
> This unit won't change my SOP of having 8.5 x 11 paper printed charts for my
> destinations and possible alternates, however, for $10/month I have every US
> chart at my fingertips in a device that does not cost several AMU (~$250),
> does not rely on a rotating hard drive, does not use a Bill Gates OS and has
> a battery life that exceeds the endurance of my 136 gallons useable fuel.
>
> All in all, I'm inclined to give it the CSOB thumbs up!
>
> See a narrative and some screen shots here:
>
> http://www.csobeech.com/csob-sony.html
>
> Mike
>
> N2023W
> 1965 B-55/TC-971
> KDTO Denton, TX
> <mailto:mike@michaelcaban.com> mike@michaelcaban.com
> <http://www.csobeech.com/> http://www.CSOBeech.com
> <http://picasaweb.google.com/michaelcaban/BeechBaronN2023W>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/michaelcaban/BeechBaronN2023W
>
> "The flight is the reason, the destination is only an excuse!"
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep |
That is the rub. Cheap hardware, cheap subscription, limited
functionality. I hear sub-notebooks will come down a lot in price this
year, but that is the current barrier for some. Hard to get full
functioning sub-notebook with SSD and GPS for under a grand unless
used, etc.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> This one sounds like Approach plates only though, right?
> So not a GPS enabled box, and no charts...just plates
> from what it sounds like. At $120/yr, it isn't that
> much more to go $199 and get the IFR ChartData subscription
> with Voyager and get a ton more function and many more
> charts:
> This page gives renewal prices and the links point to
> a page that shows what all you get.
> https://www.seattleavionics.com/ecommerce/buy1.aspx?CouponCode=Renew
>
> The main difference is, this would require a real laptop/tablet
> to run on.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>> For those considering EFBs and equivalents, a user report:
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mike Caban <mcaban@semco-inc.com>
>> Date: Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:40 PM
>> Subject: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
>> To: beech-owners@beechcraft.org
>>
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Since I had free access to a Sony Reader PRS-505, I decided to give the
>> www.readerplates.com product a try.
>>
>> 1st: purchase a minimum 2GB SD or Sony pro duo card (I got an 8GB unit off
>> ebay from China for $20 and yes, it works just fine).
>>
>> The readerplates subscription ($10/month) can be cancelled at any time so
>> I
>> was only putting $10 at risk.
>>
>> Takes a good while to get the file unless you are on a nice corporate or
>> T1
>> connection to get the 1.3 GB of download.
>>
>> All the IAP's, SIDS & STARS are in there and are easily placed on the 2GB
>> card that you have purchased, either with the card in the Sony Reader or
>> in
>> an adapter connected to your computer for transfer.
>>
>> A little fiddling with the PRS-505 to get the buttonology down but it gets
>> you there to any state, city and airport combination you navigate to.
>> Speed
>> of page turns is decent and the battery life on the thing is quite a few
>> hours (how many I don't know, but I played with the unit for a couple of
>> hours and the battery did not move off full).
>>
>> The screen technology uses encapsulated ink that is turned on and off
>> (creating a pixel or not) by some sort of electrical pulse, therefore,
>> once
>> you hit the ink capsule with energy you're done using power. So energy use
>> only occurs during page "turns". The encapsulation technology is an area
>> that I am working with my client so we had one of these units on hand.
>>
>> Readability in office conditions and outside was good for me. In low light
>> conditions you'll need an overhead light or flashlight pretty much as if
>> you
>> were using a paper chart.
>>
>> Your near vision eyesight will need to be in good shape. I do not think
>> that
>> 20/40 near vision will get you there BWTHDIK......My eye doctor keeps me
>> well tuned and with my glasses (20/20 near vision) the reader plate size
>> was
>> no problem in the full view and in the larger section view. With my
>> contacts
>> and cheater readers I was not too keen on relying on for a critical
>> frequent
>> or DH number. This is about the only caution I would have on this unit is
>> the near vision eyesight for those of us who have passed into that
>> eyesight
>> change, needs to be in very good shape. <vbg>
>>
>> This unit won't change my SOP of having 8.5 x 11 paper printed charts for
>> my
>> destinations and possible alternates, however, for $10/month I have every
>> US
>> chart at my fingertips in a device that does not cost several AMU (~$250),
>> does not rely on a rotating hard drive, does not use a Bill Gates OS and
>> has
>> a battery life that exceeds the endurance of my 136 gallons useable fuel.
>>
>> All in all, I'm inclined to give it the CSOB thumbs up!
>>
>> See a narrative and some screen shots here:
>>
>> http://www.csobeech.com/csob-sony.html
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> N2023W
>> 1965 B-55/TC-971
>> KDTO Denton, TX
>> <mailto:mike@michaelcaban.com> mike@michaelcaban.com
>> <http://www.csobeech.com/> http://www.CSOBeech.com
>> <http://picasaweb.google.com/michaelcaban/BeechBaronN2023W>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/michaelcaban/BeechBaronN2023W
>>
>> "The flight is the reason, the destination is only an excuse!"
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powered tow bars |
I slipped and fell last week trying to push my C-152 into the hanger by myself after the the hanger rows were plowed. It took several trys (and salt) before I was finaly able to get it in,,,, no one was around (New Years Day) to ask for help. Though its a ways off before my RV-10 is flying, I am fabricating my own electric tug for under $350 and I will modify the nose wheel hook-up with various adapters at that time. Everything but the steel is coming from here: http://www.surpluscenter.com/ one of my favorite on-line surplus stores.
Dave Clifford
RV-10
Empenage done!
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| Subject: | Re: Powered tow bars |
We made ours from a Roto Tiller, removed the tiller, added the attach to the
plane will move the hangar if you have to.
In a message dated 1/7/2009 3:40:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
rvbuilder@sausen.net writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
If you are so inclined to make your own (you built an airplane after all
:-D) the April 2005 Kitplanes had an article on a DIY powered tow bar made from
various salvaged parts.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sheldon Olesen
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Powered tow bars
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
After finding out that I am too weak and puny to pull my 10 back in
the hanger by myself, I'm in the market for a powered tow bar or
winch. Any recommendations?
Sheldon Olesen
N475PV--0.6 hours
**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making
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| Subject: | Re: Powered tow bars |
Cool, if you have any idea of what motor and other parts you
plan to use, I'd love to see it. I've been thinking of
breaking out the welder and giving it a shot myself too.
I figure if I can do it for 1/2 price I'd be perfectly happy.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
davidsoutpost@comcast.net wrote:
>
> I slipped and fell last week trying to push my C-152 into the hanger by
> myself after the the hanger rows were plowed. It took several trys (and
> salt) before I was finaly able to get it in,,,, no one was around (New
> Years Day) to ask for help. Though its a ways off before my RV-10 is
> flying, I am fabricating my own electric tug for under $350 and I will
> modify the nose wheel hook-up with various adapters at that time.
> Everything but the steel is coming from here:
> http://www.surpluscenter.com/ one of my favorite on-line surplus stores.
>
> Dave Clifford
> RV-10
> Empenage done!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powered tow bars |
For our spam can planes we use an electric winch mounted to the back
wall of the hangar.
Ed Godfrey
40717
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Cool, if you have any idea of what motor and other parts you
> plan to use, I'd love to see it. I've been thinking of
> breaking out the welder and giving it a shot myself too.
> I figure if I can do it for 1/2 price I'd be perfectly happy.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> davidsoutpost@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> I slipped and fell last week trying to push my C-152 into the hanger
>> by myself after the the hanger rows were plowed. It took several
>> trys (and salt) before I was finaly able to get it in,,,, no one was
>> around (New Years Day) to ask for help. Though its a ways off before
>> my RV-10 is flying, I am fabricating my own electric tug for under
>> $350 and I will modify the nose wheel hook-up with various adapters
>> at that time. Everything but the steel is coming from here:
>> http://www.surpluscenter.com/ one of my favorite on-line surplus
>> stores.
>>
>> Dave Clifford
>> RV-10
>> Empenage done!
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep |
Tim, you recently said you got a lifetime subscription. If you don't
mind can I ask what the cost on that was?
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
This one sounds like Approach plates only though, right?
So not a GPS enabled box, and no charts...just plates
from what it sounds like. At $120/yr, it isn't that
much more to go $199 and get the IFR ChartData subscription
with Voyager and get a ton more function and many more
charts:
This page gives renewal prices and the links point to
a page that shows what all you get.
https://www.seattleavionics.com/ecommerce/buy1.aspx?CouponCode=Renew
The main difference is, this would require a real laptop/tablet
to run on.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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That was also my conclusion. I only keep it on for departure and arrivals.
Although, on Monday I was at 16,500 over the Rockies with 13,000 ft peaks a
ll around and liked the idea of keeping the electric pump on. But these tim
es are rare.
After thinking about the issue overnight I am not going to make any changes
. Not worth it and during moderate to severe turbulence the air ball could
be filled with fuel rendering it worthless. Its just comforting that others
have seen this abnormalilty and I do not need to dig deeper into my aircra
ft looking and worrying about a fuel leak.
Thanks for the comments,
Bill
-
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Flow
My experience is the same as Tim says.
grumpy
N184JM
I wouldn't worry about it unless you want to leave the thing on all the
time, and then you'd have other problems to contend with.
do not archive
On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> While I do see the increase in fuel flow, just like you do, with
> mine installed in the stock location, it doesn't cause me any
> headaches. I only use the fuel boost for maybe 60 seconds
> during takeoff, and even on landing if I do, it's only for
> about 60 seconds again....just that timeframe that I'm under
> about 500' AGL. If you only use it a couple minutes during
> the flight, it won't change those readings much at all. I've
> consistently been accurate to within about .1-.2 gallons
> over a 40-45 gallon flight, so it's just not worth worrying
> about. In over 400 hours I've never had a fuel fillup that
> had any noticeable amount of difference over what the totalizer
> told me I should be adding.
>
> If you're going to use it for HP, and things like that, yeah,
> you'll get a little mis-reading for those few seconds that
> you use it.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Bill DeRouchey wrote:
>> Good comments from everyone. I guess I was asleep last year when this
was discussed. I read about Matts air-ball but since the stock tubing is
straight before and after the flow sensor I thought it applied to a non-sto
ck
configuration.
>> The only reason I had the electrical fuel pump on in cruise was to
test the condition with the autopilot on so I could focus on the abnormalit
y.
>> It would seem that any modification or relocation of the fuel flow
sensor could upset the calibration - so it must be recalibrated after the f
inal
configuration is in place. It is very important to me that this value is co
rrect
since it is the basis of many calculations - reserve fuel at destination,
horsepower, miles per gallon, and prop efficiency.
>> Thanks all-
>> Bill DeRouchey
>> N939SB
>> --- On *Wed, 1/7/09, RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
/<rvbuilder@sausen.net>/* wrote:
>> From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Flow
>> To: "rv10-list@matronics.com"
<rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:25 AM
>> Pascal,
>> I wouldn=A2t worry about it much, lots of people have put it
in the
>> stock location. If the error is really apparent, I would try
Matt=A2s
>> dampener before trying to relocate it. Michael
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *pascal
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:03 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Fuel Flow
>> Not sure how I missed that the floscan is in the wrong
location the
>> last couple of years..
>> Dave;
>> I don=A2t see any room to move my floscan from the Van's plans
>> location to near the spider, how did you make it so it all fits?
>> Thanks!
>> Pascal
>> *
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Powered tow bars |
That might work, but with the castering nosewheel on the -10, it can
get really hard to control. If you had a remote that you could turn
the winch on and off with, then used a normal towbar to stear from the
front, that would probably work fine.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jan 8, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Ed Godfrey wrote:
>
> For our spam can planes we use an electric winch mounted to the back
> wall of the hangar.
>
> Ed Godfrey
> 40717
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> Cool, if you have any idea of what motor and other parts you
>> plan to use, I'd love to see it. I've been thinking of
>> breaking out the welder and giving it a shot myself too.
>> I figure if I can do it for 1/2 price I'd be perfectly happy.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> davidsoutpost@comcast.net wrote:
>>> I slipped and fell last week trying to push my C-152 into the
>>> hanger by myself after the the hanger rows were plowed. It took
>>> several trys (and salt) before I was finaly able to get it in,,,,
>>> no one was around (New Years Day) to ask for help. Though its a
>>> ways off before my RV-10 is flying, I am fabricating my own
>>> electric tug for under $350 and I will modify the nose wheel hook-
>>> up with various adapters at that time. Everything but the steel
>>> is coming from here: http://www.surpluscenter.com/ one of my
>>> favorite on-line surplus stores.
>>> Dave Clifford
>>> RV-10
>>> Empenage done!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep |
Sure, it was a one-shot thing....but they had an email that
went out about their special, and the first 100
people ordering, got the deal. I paid $599 for a lifetime.
That was the EFB level, that goes for $299/yr. I think
their promo was basically pay for 2 years, get a lifetime.
So the IFR would probably have been $400.
They've never done it before, and not sure if they'll
ever do it again, but they usually have promo pricing
around every big aviation trade show and some random
other times in the year. Holding out may not save
tons and tons of money, but there are specials from time
to time.
It's not just all the sectionals/enroutes/plates, and all
that stuff that you get with their package, and the
EFB stuff being geo-referenced, either...they pay a
fee for every customer to 100LL.com for the fuel price
integration and all that stuff. Yeah, you can look it up
on airnav.com, but it's pretty cool to be flying along
in need of fuel before your planned destination, and
see all the prices of the nearby airports. Allowed me
to save over a buck a gallon on an impromptu stop, so
I figure that one trip I probably saved $50 or more by
having that package.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Tim, you recently said you got a lifetime subscription. If you don't
> mind can I ask what the cost on that was?
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
>
>
> This one sounds like Approach plates only though, right?
> So not a GPS enabled box, and no charts...just plates
> from what it sounds like. At $120/yr, it isn't that
> much more to go $199 and get the IFR ChartData subscription
> with Voyager and get a ton more function and many more
> charts:
> This page gives renewal prices and the links point to
> a page that shows what all you get.
> https://www.seattleavionics.com/ecommerce/buy1.aspx?CouponCode=Renew
>
> The main difference is, this would require a real laptop/tablet
> to run on.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
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Bill;
Thanks for bringing this up, I was quite concerned with this as well,
especially when I saw what it would take to rectify it, seeing the
responses from reliable sources certainly put this concern to rest, but
glad to have had it discussed.
Pascal
From: Bill DeRouchey
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Flow
That was also my conclusion. I only keep it on for departure and
arrivals. Although, on Monday I was at 16,500 over the Rockies with
13,000 ft peaks all around and liked the idea of keeping the electric
pump on. But these times are rare.
After thinking about the issue overnight I am not going to make
any changes. Not worth it and during moderate to severe turbulence the
air ball could be filled with fuel rendering it worthless. Its just
comforting that others have seen this abnormalilty and I do not need to
dig deeper into my aircraft looking and worrying about a fuel leak.
Thanks for the comments,
Bill
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Flow
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 8:10 PM
experience is the same as Tim says.grumpyN184JMI wouldn't worry about it
unless you want to leave the thing on all thetime, and then you'd have
other problems to contend with.do not archiveOn Jan 7, 2009, at 10:04
<Tim@myrv10.com>> > Bill,> > While I do see the increase in fuel flow,
just like you do, with> mine installed in the stock location, it doesn't
cause me any> headaches. I only use the fuel boost for maybe 60
seconds> during takeoff, and even on landing if I do, it's only for>
about 60 seconds again....just that timeframe that I'm
under> about 500' AGL. If you only use it a couple minutes during> the
flight, it won't change those readings much at all. I've> consistently
been accurate to within about .1-.2 gallons> over a 40-45 gallon flight,
so it's just not worth worrying> about. In over 400 hours I've never
had a fuel fillup that> had any noticeable amount of difference over
what the totalizer> told me I should be adding.> > If you're going to
use it for HP, and things like that, yeah,> you'll get a little
mis-reading for those few seconds that> you use it.> > Tim Olson - RV-10
N104CD - Flying> do not archive> > > Bill DeRouchey wrote:>> Good
comments from everyone. I guess I was asleep last year when thiswas
discussed. I read about Matts air-ball but since the stock tubing
isstraight before and after the flow sensor I thought it applied to
a non-stockconfiguration.>> The only reason I had the electrical fuel
pump on in cruise was totest the condition with the autopilot on so I
could focus on the abnormality.>> It would seem that any modification or
relocation of the fuel flowsensor could upset the calibration - so it
must be recalibrated after the finalconfiguration is in place. It is
very important to me that this value is correctsince it is the basis of
many calculations - reserve fuel at destination,horsepower, miles per
gallon, and prop efficiency.>> Thanks all->> Bill DeRouchey>> N939SB>>
--- On *Wed, 1/7/09, RV Builder (Michael
Sausen)/<rvbuilder@sausen.net>/* wrote:>> From: RV Builder (Michael
Sausen) <rvbuilder@sausen.net>>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Flow>>
To: "rv10-list@matronics.com"<rv10-list@matronics.com>>> Date:
Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:25 AM>> Pascal,>> I
wouldn=A2t worry about it much, lots of people have put itin the>>
stock location. If the error is really apparent, I would tryMatt=A2s>>
dampener before trying to relocate it. Michael>>
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>>
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *pascal>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:03 PM>> *To:*
rv10-list@matronics.com>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Fuel Flow>>
Not sure how I missed that the floscan is in the wronglocation the>>
last couple of years..>> Dave;>> I don=A2t see any room to move
my floscan from the Van's plans>> location to near the spider, how
did you make it so it all fits?>> Thanks!>>
Pascal>> *>>
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ist>> matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com>>
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I've searched all the forums and the web but can't find any clear answers for "the
electrically challenged" when it comes to Panel Jacks.
Went to Aircraft Spruce and picked up two headset jacks and two microphone jacks
for the back seats (want to get those wires pulled and done). Turns out they
come with three circuits or two. I know I need the three circuit for the headsets
if I want stereo - left, right, and lo. But why would I want three for a
back seat microphone? the schematics I've seen seem to just show two wires - mic
and PTT. Would the two be for mic and lo, and the three be for mic, PTT, and
lo? Do i need the third one for the voice activated intercom feature?
My limited understanding is that lo is really just a ground that needs to go to
the audio panel instead of the airframe power ground.
I've also figured out that shielded-three-core is probably best with the shield
grounded somewhere at the audio panel. I did see where Bob Nuckolls hints you
can use the shield as lo in his book (although I've already bought the 3 core
stuff).
Any extra gems you might wish to pass on would be greatly appreciated.
John
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| Subject: | Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep |
I have kept up on your PIREPS, it sounds like a full featured package
and with a lifetime deal assuming they are around for 10+ years you have
really put yourself in a good position especially because you already
like the package.
Thanks,
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
Sure, it was a one-shot thing....but they had an email that
went out about their special, and the first 100
people ordering, got the deal. I paid $599 for a lifetime.
That was the EFB level, that goes for $299/yr. I think
their promo was basically pay for 2 years, get a lifetime.
So the IFR would probably have been $400.
They've never done it before, and not sure if they'll
ever do it again, but they usually have promo pricing
around every big aviation trade show and some random
other times in the year. Holding out may not save
tons and tons of money, but there are specials from time
to time.
It's not just all the sectionals/enroutes/plates, and all
that stuff that you get with their package, and the
EFB stuff being geo-referenced, either...they pay a
fee for every customer to 100LL.com for the fuel price
integration and all that stuff. Yeah, you can look it up
on airnav.com, but it's pretty cool to be flying along
in need of fuel before your planned destination, and
see all the prices of the nearby airports. Allowed me
to save over a buck a gallon on an impromptu stop, so
I figure that one trip I probably saved $50 or more by
having that package.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Tim, you recently said you got a lifetime subscription. If you don't
> mind can I ask what the cost on that was?
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
>
>
> This one sounds like Approach plates only though, right?
> So not a GPS enabled box, and no charts...just plates
> from what it sounds like. At $120/yr, it isn't that
> much more to go $199 and get the IFR ChartData subscription
> with Voyager and get a ton more function and many more
> charts:
> This page gives renewal prices and the links point to
> a page that shows what all you get.
> https://www.seattleavionics.com/ecommerce/buy1.aspx?CouponCode=Renew
>
> The main difference is, this would require a real laptop/tablet
> to run on.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
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With few exceptions, you should be buying stereo headset jacks (which have
three posts) instead of two posts (mono jacks). I don't know why Spruce
only carries the Mono Jacks, because 99% of audio panels going into planes
are stereo, and so are a good share of the intercoms....which is the reason
we completely quit stocking any mono jacks long ago - we only stock stereo
jacks now.
Anyway, Go buy some stereo jacks to begin with (they cost about.30 more than
the mono ones) and that way you can use both mono and stereo headsets. If
you put the mono jacks in, you may have issues with stereo headsets being
plugged into mono jacks - and a good majority of modern headsets are no
stereo.
The mic jacks have three posts....Ground, Tip and Barrel. (Ground/Low, Mic
Audio and PTT).
The headset jacks (stereo) have three posts.....Ground, Tip and Barrell
(Ground, Left and Right Headphone Audio).
Note, the above are in no particular order, so look at your install manuals
to see how it's wired up. In your case you need to get the right jacks
before moving forward, then run two sets of three conductor shielded wire to
each seat (one three conductor for the headset and one three conductor for
the mic).
Hope that helps!
Cheers,
Stein
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of johngoodman
>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:10 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Audio Jacks
>
>
>
>I've searched all the forums and the web but can't find any clear
>answers for "the electrically challenged" when it comes to Panel Jacks.
>Went to Aircraft Spruce and picked up two headset jacks and two
>microphone jacks for the back seats (want to get those wires
>pulled and done). Turns out they come with three circuits or two.
>I know I need the three circuit for the headsets if I want stereo
>- left, right, and lo. But why would I want three for a back seat
>microphone? the schematics I've seen seem to just show two wires -
>mic and PTT. Would the two be for mic and lo, and the three be for
>mic, PTT, and lo? Do i need the third one for the voice activated
>intercom feature?
>My limited understanding is that lo is really just a ground that
>needs to go to the audio panel instead of the airframe power ground.
>I've also figured out that shielded-three-core is probably best
>with the shield grounded somewhere at the audio panel. I did see
>where Bob Nuckolls hints you can use the shield as lo in his book
>(although I've already bought the 3 core stuff).
>Any extra gems you might wish to pass on would be greatly appreciated.
>
>John
>
>--------
>#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
>N711JG reserved
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223575#223575
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep |
Yeah, I don't know that I would have done it 2 years ago...when
I first bought ChartCase Express. I was not sure I'd be totally
sold on electronic charts. But, using them with Chart Case
was great...it's good software. But, then getting Voyager I
was a little concerned too....I didn't even delete my ChartCase,
in case I still wanted to use it with expired charts. But, after
a year with each of them, I'm now plenty happy giving up paper, and
Voyager provided enough cool features and better renewal pricing
so I now am very happy. They're both good packages, but there
are tons of differences.
Before that, I had tried the D-I-Y plates thing. You can get
a CD for something like $10/mo that gives all approach plates,
and I tried loading that on my tablet. It was clumsier to
use and of course WAY lacking in features, and viewing
big sheet charts was a real pain....almost useless without
GPS and geo-referencing. For a while I also had a script I
used to download all of my common approach plates and regions
from the FAA's chart site....and it would do it automatically and
keep them updated. But, I found all of that just a pain compared
to the ease of having a good software package.
Having up to date chart info and GPS Database info is really
a critical thing....it's way too easy to get busted because
you flew in somewhere on an old frequency or something. The
fact that with Voyager I can actually use it for flight planning,
and for in-flight use, is really handy, so now I've just
settled on what I plan to use for the long run.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> I have kept up on your PIREPS, it sounds like a full featured package
> and with a lifetime deal assuming they are around for 10+ years you have
> really put yourself in a good position especially because you already
> like the package.
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
>
>
> Sure, it was a one-shot thing....but they had an email that
> went out about their special, and the first 100
> people ordering, got the deal. I paid $599 for a lifetime.
> That was the EFB level, that goes for $299/yr. I think
> their promo was basically pay for 2 years, get a lifetime.
> So the IFR would probably have been $400.
>
> They've never done it before, and not sure if they'll
> ever do it again, but they usually have promo pricing
> around every big aviation trade show and some random
> other times in the year. Holding out may not save
> tons and tons of money, but there are specials from time
> to time.
>
> It's not just all the sectionals/enroutes/plates, and all
> that stuff that you get with their package, and the
> EFB stuff being geo-referenced, either...they pay a
> fee for every customer to 100LL.com for the fuel price
> integration and all that stuff. Yeah, you can look it up
> on airnav.com, but it's pretty cool to be flying along
> in need of fuel before your planned destination, and
> see all the prices of the nearby airports. Allowed me
> to save over a buck a gallon on an impromptu stop, so
> I figure that one trip I probably saved $50 or more by
> having that package.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Robin Marks wrote:
>>
>> Tim, you recently said you got a lifetime subscription. If you don't
>> mind can I ask what the cost on that was?
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:57 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep
>>
>>
>> This one sounds like Approach plates only though, right?
>> So not a GPS enabled box, and no charts...just plates
>> from what it sounds like. At $120/yr, it isn't that
>> much more to go $199 and get the IFR ChartData subscription
>> with Voyager and get a ton more function and many more
>> charts:
>> This page gives renewal prices and the links point to
>> a page that shows what all you get.
>> https://www.seattleavionics.com/ecommerce/buy1.aspx?CouponCode=Renew
>>
>> The main difference is, this would require a real laptop/tablet
>> to run on.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stein,
Thanks. I know what to do. Just for your info, Aircraft Spruce sells them as:
Headphone/ Microphone Jack, 3-Circuit JJ-033 ...P/N 11-05995 ..$3.70 Headphone/
Microphone Jack, 2-Circuit JJ-034 ...P/N 11-03907 ..$2.70
It's basically a buck a circuit. You can get either jack in a 2 or a 3. Being four
miles away from A/S makes it easy for me.
On a segue, are you planning to be at Sun 'n fun?
John
--------
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: B: www.Readerplates.com Pirep |
The e-books do have an advantage. They have superior sunlight readability. In
fact the brighter it is the better they look. And long battery life.
But yes, gray scale with limited functionality.
Larry Rosen
Kelly McMullen wrote:
> That is the rub. Cheap hardware, cheap subscription, limited
> functionality. I hear sub-notebooks will come down a lot in price this
> year, but that is the current barrier for some. Hard to get full
> functioning sub-notebook with SSD and GPS for under a grand unless
> used, etc.
>
>
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#40356
N205EN (reserved)
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The headphone is .250" ...... the mic is .200", so the
headphone/microphone label confuses me. One size doesn't fit all!!!
And you want to run separate ground wires instead of using the
instrument panel as a ground. Your equipment manual will tell you
whether you need a ground at the equipment or just at the jack.
Linn
johngoodman wrote:
>
> Stein,
> Thanks. I know what to do. Just for your info, Aircraft Spruce sells them as:
> Headphone/ Microphone Jack, 3-Circuit JJ-033 ...P/N 11-05995 ..$3.70 Headphone/
Microphone Jack, 2-Circuit JJ-034 ...P/N 11-03907 ..$2.70
>
> It's basically a buck a circuit. You can get either jack in a 2 or a 3. Being
four miles away from A/S makes it easy for me.
>
> On a segue, are you planning to be at Sun 'n fun?
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit is on it's way.
> N711JG reserved
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223590#223590
>
>
>
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Hi John,
I don't think that's the case. I've not seen an 2 circuit mic jack in a
typical GA airplane installation. Also, the Mic and Headset jacks are not
interchangeable. The diameter of the jack/plus is different and you can't
interchange them, even if ACS think you can.... It's not an either or kind
of thing because the MIC needs a MIC jack, and those are three circuit jacks
specifically for MIC plugs. I could be wrong (I often am), but I don't
think it's a case of either being available in either circuitry (although
indeed the Headset Jacks are...if they stock both) - I just don't think the
Mic Jacks are.
You might run over to Spruce and see, but as of late I've been getting a lot
of calls from people with the exact same questions and all of them had the
Mono Headset jacks from Spruce.
We don't have a booth at SnF (too busy), but I may try to get there for a
few days myself and hang out in the TruTrak or AFS booth!
Cheers,
Stein
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of johngoodman
>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:13 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: Audio Jacks
>
>
>
>Stein,
>Thanks. I know what to do. Just for your info, Aircraft Spruce
>sells them as:
>Headphone/ Microphone Jack, 3-Circuit JJ-033 ...P/N 11-05995
>..$3.70 Headphone/ Microphone Jack, 2-Circuit JJ-034 ...P/N
>11-03907 ..$2.70
>
>It's basically a buck a circuit. You can get either jack in a 2 or
>a 3. Being four miles away from A/S makes it easy for me.
>
>On a segue, are you planning to be at Sun 'n fun?
>
>John
>
>--------
>#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit is on it's way.
>N711JG reserved
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>
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Hello Stein,
=C2-My wife and I just bought a Garmin 696 for our plane. It has a stereo
output jack for music, a 3.5 mm. We were wondering if you know if the KMA2
4 audio panel is a stereo unit. There are two 3.5 mm input jacks on the pan
el and don't know if it would be detrimental to the 696 unit if we plugged
in=C2-the stereo cable to=C2-a mono jack, if in fact it is.
Thanks.
Brian Preston
----- Original Message -----
From: "Inc. SteinAir" <stein@steinair.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 11:41:48 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Audio Jacks
With few exceptions, you should be buying stereo headset jacks (which have
three posts) instead of two posts (mono jacks). =C2-I don't know why Spru
ce
only carries the Mono Jacks, because 99% of audio panels going into planes
are stereo, and so are a good share of the intercoms....which is the reason
we completely quit stocking any mono jacks long ago - we only stock stereo
jacks now.
Anyway, Go buy some stereo jacks to begin with (they cost about.30 more tha
n
the mono ones) and that way you can use both mono and stereo headsets. =C2
-If
you put the mono jacks in, you may have issues with stereo headsets being
plugged into mono jacks - and a good majority of modern headsets are no
stereo.
The mic jacks have three posts....Ground, Tip and Barrel. (Ground/Low, Mic
Audio and PTT).
The headset jacks (stereo) have three posts.....Ground, Tip and Barrell
(Ground, Left and Right Headphone Audio).
Note, the above are in no particular order, so look at your install manuals
to see how it's wired up. =C2-In your case you need to get the right jack
s
before moving forward, then run two sets of three conductor shielded wire t
o
each seat (one three conductor for the headset and one three conductor for
the mic).
Hope that helps!
Cheers,
Stein
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of johngoodman
>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:10 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Audio Jacks
>
>
>
>I've searched all the forums and the web but can't find any clear
>answers for "the electrically challenged" when it comes to Panel Jacks.
>Went to Aircraft Spruce and picked up two headset jacks and two
>microphone jacks for the back seats (want to get those wires
>pulled and done). Turns out they come with three circuits or two.
>I know I need the three circuit for the headsets if I want stereo
>- left, right, and lo. But why would I want three for a back seat
>microphone? the schematics I've seen seem to just show two wires -
>mic and PTT. Would the two be for mic and lo, and the three be for
>mic, PTT, and lo? Do i need the third one for the voice activated
>intercom feature?
>My limited understanding is that lo is really just a ground that
>needs to go to the audio panel instead of the airframe power ground.
>I've also figured out that shielded-three-core is probably best
>with the shield grounded somewhere at the audio panel. I did see
>where Bob Nuckolls hints you can use the shield as lo in his book
>(although I've already bought the 3 core stuff).
>Any extra gems you might wish to pass on would be greatly appreciated.
>
>John
>
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>#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
>N711JG reserved
>
>
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>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=223575#223575
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> Headphone/ Microphone Jack, 3-Circuit JJ-033 ...P/N 11-05995 ..$3.70 Headphone/
Microphone Jack, 2-Circuit JJ-034 ...P/N 11-03907 ..$2.70
Stein & others,
Spruce's text (which I pasted) is very confusing. What it amounts to is that they
offer both in EITHER a 2 or 3. I was confused myself. I've got it figured out,
just need to go back and do a swap - easy for me but hard for the uninitiated.
Sorry you won't have a booth, but I'll be looking for you at Sun 'n fun. Unless
you shave, it should be pretty easy.....
John
--------
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Just had an enlightening discussion with a work colleague that prompts
some questions:
1. Nitrogen in the tires
How many use Nitrogen (as opposed to compressed air) in the tires. I
have not flown yet, but I notice that my tires regularly deflate very
slowly. I've now heard that this may be oxygen leakage through the
rubber membrane Interesting thread on VAF on this. To what extent does
Nitrogen only in the tires reduce deflation? Any list experiences?
2. Static wicks
I always believed I did not need them. After all, I was not building a
plastic plane. After adding paint, I have changed my mind!! I used two
pack Acrylic Urethane on my paint job. Came out pretty good. When
vacuuming the paint booth of paint dust, the static build up inside the
hose and metal fittings is unbelievable. I often see sparks greater
than 1/2" between any conductor on the vacuum cleaner and a ground.
Greater than 10kV in this apparently! I expect the static buildup on
the plastic paint I now have, especially in the hot, dry, dusty
conditions here in South Oz is likely to be quite significant. Looks
like a bit more work on bonding the control surfaces and adding some
wicks.
Will it ever end . . . .
Cheers,
Ron
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1. I have not used Nitrogen in the tires...have not had a problem
keeping them inflated.
2. Did not put static wicks on the airplane...having second thoughts.
I do
get a P-static buildup and thus can have a lot of static...hear it on
the
radio. It has not gotten real bad, but I do notice it.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:20 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Old subject revisited
Just had an enlightening discussion with a work colleague that prompts
some
questions:
1. Nitrogen in the tires
How many use Nitrogen (as opposed to compressed air) in the tires. I
have
not flown yet, but I notice that my tires regularly deflate very slowly.
I've now heard that this may be oxygen leakage through the rubber
membrane
Interesting thread on VAF on this. To what extent does Nitrogen only in
the
tires reduce deflation? Any list experiences?
2. Static wicks
I always believed I did not need them. After all, I was not building a
plastic plane. After adding paint, I have changed my mind!! I used two
pack Acrylic Urethane on my paint job. Came out pretty good. When
vacuuming the paint booth of paint dust, the static build up inside the
hose
and metal fittings is unbelievable. I often see sparks greater than
1/2"
between any conductor on the vacuum cleaner and a ground. Greater than
10kV
in this apparently! I expect the static buildup on the plastic paint I
now
have, especially in the hot, dry, dusty conditions here in South Oz is
likely to be quite significant. Looks like a bit more work on bonding
the
control surfaces and adding some wicks.
Will it ever end . . . .
Cheers,
Ron
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FLY!!)
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Ron,
I have no answer for question #1 or #2 but I definitely
know the answer to question #3.
Will it ever end...
No
Cheers?
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Old subject revisited
Just had an enlightening discussion with a work colleague that prompts
some questions:
1. Nitrogen in the tires
How many use Nitrogen (as opposed to compressed air) in the tires. I
have not flown yet, but I notice that my tires regularly deflate very
slowly. I've now heard that this may be oxygen leakage through the
rubber membrane Interesting thread on VAF on this. To what extent does
Nitrogen only in the tires reduce deflation? Any list experiences?
2. Static wicks
I always believed I did not need them. After all, I was not building a
plastic plane. After adding paint, I have changed my mind!! I used two
pack Acrylic Urethane on my paint job. Came out pretty good. When
vacuuming the paint booth of paint dust, the static build up inside the
hose and metal fittings is unbelievable. I often see sparks greater
than 1/2" between any conductor on the vacuum cleaner and a ground.
Greater than 10kV in this apparently! I expect the static buildup on
the plastic paint I now have, especially in the hot, dry, dusty
conditions here in South Oz is likely to be quite significant. Looks
like a bit more work on bonding the control surfaces and adding some
wicks.
Will it ever end . . . .
Cheers,
Ron
-187 fiddly bits and paperwork (and I really should just finish and
FLY!!)
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| Subject: | Erroneous Plans sequence on elevators |
While it doesn't cause a major problem, I was a bit annoyed to find
out that the plans called for edge rolling the skins to full plans
pages after telling you to dimple them, where the dimples prevent a
nice neat edge roll. Page 9-7 calls for the dimpling in step 9. Page
9-9 step 7 calls for the edge roll. IMHO both 9-9 steps 7 and 8 should
be done before dimpling. Also a bit annoying that the foam rib
templates have no dimensions with them, so you don't know if the plans
page is exactly to scale or not. Given that the foam blocks are bigger
than the dimensions given in the plans for them, I'm not so confident
about the templates.
Kelly
40866, obviously on elevators
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| Subject: | Questions - Help! |
As a newbee to this whole aviation arena, I now have an almost completed RV10,
with an engine that actually runs.... and quite well..... that being said I have
some questions and clerifications that I need.
1. At start in colder temps (40 deg F) with mineral oil for breakin, what would
be considered too high of oil pressure? I was seeing 91, and then it dropped
to 88 as the oil temp rose to 107. Both readings at approx. 1300rpm.
2. Without the boost pump, I was getting fuel pressure of 34psi.. normal?
3. I have dual lightspeed ignition and have the AFS4500 and a Van's tach. So
far neither has produced any rpm movement. Ideas?????
I wired one lightspeed to the AFS, and the other to the Van's tach.
Really appreciate the help guys.
Don McDonald
#40636
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40636
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| Subject: | Erroneous Plans sequence on elevators |
I can see where you're coming from and I usually try to roll my edges
before dimpling too.
However I wouldn't say the plans are wrong. It really depends on the
tools you are using because some of edge rollers are thicker than
others; thus requiring more depth (from the edge) to roll correctly.
I'll bet your edge roller runs relatively deep and that's the reason you
were running up on your dimples.
Good luck! The tailcone is blast!
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McMullen [mailto:apilot2@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Erroneous Plans sequence on elevators
While it doesn't cause a major problem, I was a bit annoyed to find out
that the plans called for edge rolling the skins to full plans pages
after telling you to dimple them, where the dimples prevent a nice neat
edge roll. Page 9-7 calls for the dimpling in step 9. Page
9-9 step 7 calls for the edge roll. IMHO both 9-9 steps 7 and 8 should
be done before dimpling. Also a bit annoying that the foam rib templates
have no dimensions with them, so you don't know if the plans page is
exactly to scale or not. Given that the foam blocks are bigger than the
dimensions given in the plans for them, I'm not so confident about the
templates.
Kelly
40866, obviously on elevators
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| Subject: | Re: Questions - Help! |
Have you looked at your POH? It should right next to the registration in the left
side pocket
Rick S
40185
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------Original Message------
From: partner14
Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Rv
Sent: Jan 8, 2009 8:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Questions - Help!
As a newbee to this whole aviation arena, I now have an almost completed RV10,
with an engine that actually runs.... and quite well..... that being said I have
some questions and clerifications that I need.
1. At start in colder temps (40 deg F) with mineral oil for breakin, what would
be considered too high of oil pressure? I was seeing 91, and then it dropped
to 88 as the oil temp rose to 107. Both readings at approx. 1300rpm.
2. Without the boost pump, I was getting fuel pressure of 34psi.. normal?
3. I have dual lightspeed ignition and have the AFS4500 and a Van's tach. So
far neither has produced any rpm movement. Ideas?????
I wired one lightspeed to the AFS, and the other to the Van's tach.
Really appreciate the help guys.
Don McDonald
#40636
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40636
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| Subject: | Re: Erroneous Plans sequence on elevators |
I understand the difference in tools. I'm using one of these:
http://www.averytools.com/pc-45-70-edge-rolling-tool.aspx
It puts the bend right at the edge of the dimples, but because of the
bump, you can't continue smoothly.
The plans were very clear on the rudder to edge roll before dimpling, so
I'd expect at least a bit of consistency.
Perry, Phil wrote:
>
> I can see where you're coming from and I usually try to roll my edges
> before dimpling too.
>
> However I wouldn't say the plans are wrong. It really depends on the
> tools you are using because some of edge rollers are thicker than
> others; thus requiring more depth (from the edge) to roll correctly.
>
> I'll bet your edge roller runs relatively deep and that's the reason you
> were running up on your dimples.
>
> Good luck! The tailcone is blast!
>
> Phil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelly McMullen [mailto:apilot2@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:43 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Erroneous Plans sequence on elevators
>
>
> While it doesn't cause a major problem, I was a bit annoyed to find out
> that the plans called for edge rolling the skins to full plans pages
> after telling you to dimple them, where the dimples prevent a nice neat
> edge roll. Page 9-7 calls for the dimpling in step 9. Page
> 9-9 step 7 calls for the edge roll. IMHO both 9-9 steps 7 and 8 should
> be done before dimpling. Also a bit annoying that the foam rib templates
> have no dimensions with them, so you don't know if the plans page is
> exactly to scale or not. Given that the foam blocks are bigger than the
> dimensions given in the plans for them, I'm not so confident about the
> templates.
>
> Kelly
> 40866, obviously on elevators
>
>
>
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