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1. 06:13 AM - Re: Neat to have but.. (BPA)
2. 07:40 AM - Re: Neat to have but.. (John Gonzalez)
3. 08:31 AM - Re: Neat to have but.. (BPA)
4. 08:52 AM - Lynell added you as a friend on Reunion.com! (Lynell Gipson)
5. 09:11 AM - Re: Neat to have but.. (George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 605 TES/DOA)
6. 09:53 AM - Re: Battery Chassis Grounding... (nukeflyboy)
7. 09:54 AM - Re: Battery Chassis Grounding... (nukeflyboy)
8. 10:02 AM - Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (nukeflyboy)
9. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Tim Olson)
10. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (pascal)
11. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (David Maib)
12. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Tim Olson)
13. 11:28 AM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
14. 12:08 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Robin Marks)
15. 12:14 PM - Re: Neat to have but.. (John Gonzalez)
16. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - (weighted wheel pants) (Robin Marks)
17. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Tim Olson)
18. 12:26 PM - Re: Neat to have but.. (BPA)
19. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Scott Schmidt)
20. 01:43 PM - Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Bob Turner)
21. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
22. 02:11 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Ben Westfall)
23. 04:30 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (John Ackerman)
24. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Tim Olson)
25. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Scott Schmidt)
26. 06:00 PM - Re: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts (Tim Olson)
27. 07:46 PM - Appreciation (Neal George)
28. 09:20 PM - Re: Neat to have but.. (Bob Kaufmann)
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| Subject: | Neat to have but.. |
Naw, we don't eat them. We don't even shoot them anymore. Just give the
dogs a good run. It's a blast listening to the chase.
If I can clear a schedule, I'd like to be there. If I can't, you know my
phone will be on. Right before you bust it off, dial my number :)
Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
If it's within 100 miles of here heck yes!! I know they make nifty hats
but you don't eat them thing do you...oh wait..your in OK huh? Never
mind! Allen, paint starting in a week or so, wanna come out in late Feb
for the first startup and flight? I have room!!
Rick Sked
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:03:50 PM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
Heh, heh, you one smart cookie Rick! :) We're going Saturday night,
wanna go?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
I'll give you three guesses who at BPA wrote this and I'll bet it's not
the good looking one or the distinguished gentleman who founded the
company!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:28:31 PM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
Coon huntin'
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
I'd use them to try to find the friggin outhouse during a new moon.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
Well I guess being more specific, I wonder if I could get mine (if I
owned a
pair) on fast enough to even the odds in a night time altercation. I'm
not
anti gun, own several myself but I can't think of as many good
applications
for these as there are illegal ones. Not intending to start a
constitutional
rights battle, It just seems strange how easily you buy NVG's which were
designed for the military, I'm sure these are Russian surplus, to see
the
enemy at night...I guess it depends wether you are the shooter or the
target.
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:27:20 AM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
-------- Original Message --------
> This may be a little off topic but does anyone find it a bit
> disturbing that these are so easily obtained? I wonder how well it
> would work in the cockpit?
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55734
> Rick S. 40185
Why do you find it disturbing?
That's almost like a lay-person saying "they find it disturbing that
anyone
can build their own plane and fly it over their heads."
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
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| Subject: | Neat to have but.. |
It is fun to do that riight here in California with them dogs and a Bob cat
s. The cats really make some noise right before the dogs think again and hi
gh tail it out of there...I feel bad for those racoons. > Subject: RE: RV10
-List: Neat to have but..> Date: Wed=2C 14 Jan 2009 08:16:05 -0600> From: B
PA@bpaengines.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> > --> RV10-List message pos
ted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>> > Naw=2C we don't eat them. We don't ev
en shoot them anymore. Just give the> dogs a good run. It's a blast listeni
ng to the chase.> > If I can clear a schedule=2C I'd like to be there. If I
can't=2C you know my> phone will be on. Right before you bust it off=2C di
al my number :)> > Allen> > -----Original Message-----> From: owner-rv10-li
st-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On B
ehalf Of Rick Sked> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C 2009 5:49 PM> To: rv10-l
ist@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..> > --> RV10-L
ist message posted by: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>> > If it's withi
n 100 miles of here heck yes!! I know they make nifty hats> but you don't e
at them thing do you...oh wait..your in OK huh? Never> mind! Allen=2C paint
starting in a week or so=2C wanna come out in late Feb> for the first star
tup and flight? I have room!!> > Rick Sked> 40185> do not archive> ----- Or
iginal Message -----> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>> To: rv10-list@matro
nics.com> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C 2009 3:03:50 PM (GMT-0800)> Americ
a/Los_Angeles> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..> > --> RV10-List
message posted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>> > Heh=2C heh=2C you one smar
t cookie Rick! :) We're going Saturday night=2C> wanna go?> > -----Original
Message-----> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv
10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked> Sent: Tuesday=2C Janu
ary 13=2C 2009 3:44 PM> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List
d@embarqmail.com>> > I'll give you three guesses who at BPA wrote this and
I'll bet it's not> the good looking one or the distinguished gentleman who
founded the> company!!> ----- Original Message -----> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpae
ngines.com>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C 20
09 12:28:31 PM (GMT-0800)> America/Los_Angeles> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nea
OM>> > Coon huntin'> > -----Original Message-----> From: owner-rv10-list-se
rver@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
Of John Jessen> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C 2009 1:08 PM> To: rv10-list
@matronics.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..> > --> RV10-List
message posted by: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>> > I'd use them to try
to find the friggin outhouse during a new moon. > > -----Original Message-
----> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-s
erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C
2009 10:51 AM> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat t
mail.com>> > Well I guess being more specific=2C I wonder if I could get mi
ne (if I> owned a> pair) on fast enough to even the odds in a night time al
tercation. I'm> not> anti gun=2C own several myself but I can't think of as
many good> applications> for these as there are illegal ones. Not intendin
g to start a> constitutional> rights battle=2C It just seems strange how ea
sily you buy NVG's which were> designed for the military=2C I'm sure these
are Russian surplus=2C to see> the> enemy at night...I guess it depends wet
her you are the shooter or the> target.> > Rick S.> 40185> do not archive>
----- Original Message -----> From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>>
M (GMT-0800)> America/Los_Angeles> Subject: re: RV10-List: Neat to have but
>> > -------- Original Message --------> > This may be a little off topic b
ut does anyone find it a bit > > disturbing that these are so easily obtain
ed? I wonder how well it > > would work in the cockpit? > > http://www.harb
orfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55734> > > Rick S. 4018
5> > > Why do you find it disturbing?> That's almost like a lay-person sayi
ng "they find it disturbing that> anyone> can build their own plane and fly
it over their heads."> > William> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ > > > > > > >
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| Subject: | Neat to have but.. |
Don't feel too bad for them John. Those coons can get pretty mean when
they get surrounded by a couple of blue ticks. I've seen more than one
good coon dog get more than it bargained for. I could go off sounding
like Jerry Clower with some stories but I'll save those for SNF or OSH
:-)
Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
It is fun to do that riight here in California with them dogs and a Bob
cats. The cats really make some noise right before the dogs think again
and high tail it out of there...I feel bad for those racoons.
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:16:05 -0600
> From: BPA@bpaengines.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Naw, we don't eat them. We don't even shoot them anymore. Just give
the
> dogs a good run. It's a blast listening to the chase.
>
> If I can clear a schedule, I'd like to be there. If I can't, you know
my
> phone will be on. Right before you bust it off, dial my number :)
>
> Allen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:49 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> If it's within 100 miles of here heck yes!! I know they make nifty
hats
> but you don't eat them thing do you...oh wait..your in OK huh? Never
> mind! Allen, paint starting in a week or so, wanna come out in late
Feb
> for the first startup and flight? I have room!!
>
> Rick Sked
> 40185
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:03:50 PM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> Heh, heh, you one smart cookie Rick! :) We're going Saturday night,
> wanna go?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:44 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> I'll give you three guesses who at BPA wrote this and I'll bet it's
not
> the good looking one or the distinguished gentleman who founded the
> company!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:28:31 PM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> Coon huntin'
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:08 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> I'd use them to try to find the friggin outhouse during a new moon.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> Well I guess being more specific, I wonder if I could get mine (if I
> owned a
> pair) on fast enough to even the odds in a night time altercation. I'm
> not
> anti gun, own several myself but I can't think of as many good
> applications
> for these as there are illegal ones. Not intending to start a
> constitutional
> rights battle, It just seems strange how easily you buy NVG's which
were
> designed for the military, I'm sure these are Russian surplus, to see
> the
> enemy at night...I guess it depends wether you are the shooter or the
> target.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:27:20 AM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
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> -------- Original Message --------
> > This may be a little off topic but does anyone find it a bit
> > disturbing that these are so easily obtained? I wonder how well it
> > would work in the cockpit?
> >
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55734
>
> > Rick S. 40185
>
>
> Why do you find it disturbing?
> That's almost like a lay-person saying "they find it disturbing that
> anyone
> can build their own plane and fly it over their heads."
>
> William
> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
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| Subject: | Neat to have but.. |
Randy gets to wield the stick...
neal
-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of BPA
Don't feel too bad for them John. Those coons can get pretty mean when
they get surrounded by a couple of blue ticks. I've seen more than one
good coon dog get more than it bargained for. I could go off sounding
like Jerry Clower with some stories but I'll save those for SNF or OSH
:-)
Allen
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Chassis Grounding... |
Matt,
I pretty much stole Bill's setup (previous note) but used a ground bus instead
for the ground connection. These are available from B&C and it has enough room
for 2 large (5/16 I think) bolted connections plus about a dozen or so soldered
fast-on tabs. This gives you the option of grounding some components in the
aft end of the aircraft without grounding them locally on the fuselage or having
to run ground wires forward.
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224733#224733
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Chassis Grounding... |
Matt,
I pretty much stole Bill's setup (previous note) but used a ground bus instead
for the ground connection. These are available from B&C and it has enough room
for 2 large (5/16 I think) bolted connections plus about a dozen or so soldered
fast-on tabs. This gives you the option of grounding some components in the
aft end of the aircraft without grounding them locally on the fuselage or having
to run ground wires forward.
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224734#224734
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts |
I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because they are
already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering the sale price. I
bought the balance weights too and will balance the mains as well as the nose
wheel. My thanks to y'all that have paved the way for the rest of us.
On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in order to reduce
shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224739#224739
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts |
Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
balance.
Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
nukeflyboy wrote:
>
> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
> paved the way for the rest of us.
>
> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>
> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts |
I have a 2 week back order as well.
I'll balance all the heels, statically as I have found that has worked fine
with my bike tires, I know Scott mentioned that Dynamically they were out of
balance even after doing his statically so I may pursue it a little further.
I wont deal with the pants since I can't image they would cause a problem
unless they are way off aerodynamically
Pascal
--------------------------------------------------
From: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts
>
> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because they
> are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering the sale
> price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance the mains as
> well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have paved the way for
> the rest of us.
>
> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in order
> to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>
> --------
> Dave Moore
> RV-6 flying
> RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224739#224739
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts |
Tim,
What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
location?
Thanks,
David Maib
On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
balance.
Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
nukeflyboy wrote:
> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
> paved the way for the rest of us.
> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts |
Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
them somewhat neutral.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
David Maib wrote:
>
> Tim,
> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
> location?
>
> Thanks,
> David Maib
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
> balance.
>
>
> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> nukeflyboy wrote:
>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
>> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
>> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
>> paved the way for the rest of us.
>> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
>> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts |
I have a feeling they hadn't had a full production run yet as I ordered mine
right after reading Scott's post and I was also backordered.
As to the wheel pants, I've read in the past where people have balanced their
pants fore and aft and saw a large reduction in shaking of the mains on other
aircraft. It's fairly straightforward and doesn't add much weight so I'll probably
be doing it.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pascal
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts
I have a 2 week back order as well.
I'll balance all the heels, statically as I have found that has worked fine
with my bike tires, I know Scott mentioned that Dynamically they were out of
balance even after doing his statically so I may pursue it a little further.
I wont deal with the pants since I can't image they would cause a problem
unless they are way off aerodynamically
Pascal
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts |
We balanced the wheel pants as a precaution. Each side took almost 8
ounces to neutralize the pants. I hated adding the weight but figured it
was batter than extra vibration and gives me an excuse when my -10 comes
in extra heavy...
I am confused as to the best way to balance (either dynamic or static)
the wheels. I read how Scott got them spinning but one you see it out of
balance how does one know where to place the weight to counteract the
imbalance? I have no idea how one does static balancing. Any hints would
be appreciated.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
AeroProducts
Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
them somewhat neutral.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
David Maib wrote:
>
> Tim,
> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
> location?
>
> Thanks,
> David Maib
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
> balance.
>
>
> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> nukeflyboy wrote:
>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
>> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
>> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
>> paved the way for the rest of us.
>> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
>> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Neat to have but.. |
Not to start a war but I like my Catahoulas better than those Blue Ticks.
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..Date: Wed=2C 14 Jan 2009 10:31:16
-0600From: BPA@bpaengines.comTo: rv10-list@matronics.com
Don=92t feel too bad for them John. Those coons can get pretty mean when th
ey get surrounded by a couple of blue ticks. I=92ve seen more than one good
coon dog get more than it bargained for. I could go off sounding like Jerr
y Clower with some stories but I=92ll save those for SNF or OSH J
Allen
-----Original Message-----From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailt
o:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John GonzalezSent: Wed
nesday=2C January 14=2C 2009 9:37 AMTo: RV 10 groupSubject: RE: RV10-List:
Neat to have but..
It is fun to do that riight here in California with them dogs and a Bob cat
s. The cats really make some noise right before the dogs think again and hi
gh tail it out of there...I feel bad for those racoons. > Subject: RE: RV10
-List: Neat to have but..> Date: Wed=2C 14 Jan 2009 08:16:05 -0600> From: B
PA@bpaengines.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> > --> RV10-List message pos
ted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>> > Naw=2C we don't eat them. We don't ev
en shoot them anymore. Just give the> dogs a good run. It's a blast listeni
ng to the chase.> > If I can clear a schedule=2C I'd like to be there. If I
can't=2C you know my> phone will be on. Right before you bust it off=2C di
al my number :)> > Allen> > -----Original Message-----> From: owner-rv10-li
st-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On B
ehalf Of Rick Sked> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C 2009 5:49 PM> To: rv10-l
ist@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..> > --> RV10-L
ist message posted by: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>> > If it's withi
n 100 miles of here heck yes!! I know they make nifty hats> but you don't e
at them thing do you...oh wait..your in OK huh? Never> mind! Allen=2C paint
starting in a week or so=2C wanna come out in late Feb> for the first star
tup and flight? I have room!!> > Rick Sked> 40185> do not archive> ----- Or
iginal Message -----> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>> To: rv10-list@matro
nics.com> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C 2009 3:03:50 PM (GMT-0800)> Americ
a/Los_Angeles> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..> > --> RV10-List
message posted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM>> > Heh=2C heh=2C you one smar
t cookie Rick! :) We're going Saturday night=2C> wanna go?> > -----Original
Message-----> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv
10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked> Sent: Tuesday=2C Janu
ary 13=2C 2009 3:44 PM> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List
d@embarqmail.com>> > I'll give you three guesses who at BPA wrote this and
I'll bet it's not> the good looking one or the distinguished gentleman who
founded the> company!!> ----- Original Message -----> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpae
ngines.com>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C 20
09 12:28:31 PM (GMT-0800)> America/Los_Angeles> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nea
OM>> > Coon huntin'> > -----Original Message-----> From: owner-rv10-list-se
rver@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
Of John Jessen> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C 2009 1:08 PM> To: rv10-list
@matronics.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..> > --> RV10-List
message posted by: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>> > I'd use them to try
to find the friggin outhouse during a new moon. > > -----Original Message-
----> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-s
erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked> Sent: Tuesday=2C January 13=2C
2009 10:51 AM> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat t
mail.com>> > Well I guess being more specific=2C I wonder if I could get mi
ne (if I> owned a> pair) on fast enough to even the odds in a night time al
tercation. I'm> not> anti gun=2C own several myself but I can't think of as
many good> applications> for these as there are illegal ones. Not intendin
g to start a> constitutional> rights battle=2C It just seems strange how ea
sily you buy NVG's which were> designed for the military=2C I'm sure these
are Russian surplus=2C to see> the> enemy at night...I guess it depends wet
her you are the shooter or the> target.> > Rick S.> 40185> do not archive>
----- Original Message -----> From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>>
M (GMT-0800)> America/Los_Angeles> Subject: re: RV10-List: Neat to have but
>> > -------- Original Message --------> > This may be a little off topic b
ut does anyone find it a bit > > disturbing that these are so easily obtain
ed? I wonder how well it > > would work in the cockpit? > > http://www.harb
orfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55734> > > Rick S. 4018
5> > > Why do you find it disturbing?> That's almost like a lay-person sayi
ng "they find it disturbing that> anyone> can build their own plane and fly
it over their heads."> > William> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===
=======> > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listht
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - (weighted wheel pants) |
Attached is a photo of the main wheel pants with weights in the nose
(and beautiful Forsling exhaust).
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
AeroProducts
We balanced the wheel pants as a precaution. Each side took almost 8
ounces to neutralize the pants. I hated adding the weight but figured it
was batter than extra vibration and gives me an excuse when my -10 comes
in extra heavy...
I am confused as to the best way to balance (either dynamic or static)
the wheels. I read how Scott got them spinning but one you see it out of
balance how does one know where to place the weight to counteract the
imbalance? I have no idea how one does static balancing. Any hints would
be appreciated.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
AeroProducts
Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
them somewhat neutral.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
David Maib wrote:
>
> Tim,
> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
> location?
>
> Thanks,
> David Maib
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
> balance.
>
>
> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> nukeflyboy wrote:
>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
>> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
>> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
>> paved the way for the rest of us.
>> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
>> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts |
Just a guess but I bet he spun them, but then looked for where
they rolled low, just like doing a normal motorcycle balance.
Then probably spun them up again and checked again. Since
he said that the weights were all on one side, it can't
really DO the balance much better than using precision
bearings...the difference is that he spun them up to look
for how bad it shook. That's my guess. Otherwise you'd
need some precision sensors and all that stuff.
FWIW, I saw Harbor Freight had a sale on their motorcycle
balancer, for $39, and included the precision bearing
roller shaft stuff, along with a nice stand. Seemed like
if the quality was good, it would be a good way to go.
I only know my balancer, and I can tell you that if there
is any weight that is off, that one is sensitive enough to
show you. But, side-to-side distribution wouldn't be
possible to determine.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> We balanced the wheel pants as a precaution. Each side took almost 8
> ounces to neutralize the pants. I hated adding the weight but figured it
> was batter than extra vibration and gives me an excuse when my -10 comes
> in extra heavy...
> I am confused as to the best way to balance (either dynamic or static)
> the wheels. I read how Scott got them spinning but one you see it out of
> balance how does one know where to place the weight to counteract the
> imbalance? I have no idea how one does static balancing. Any hints would
> be appreciated.
>
> Robin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:15 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
> AeroProducts
>
>
> Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
> if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
> and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
> up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
> it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
> them somewhat neutral.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
>
> David Maib wrote:
>>
>> Tim,
>> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
>> location?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David Maib
>>
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
>> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
>> balance.
>>
>>
>> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
>> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
>> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
>> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
>> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
>> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
>> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
>> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
>> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
>> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> nukeflyboy wrote:
>>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
>>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
>>> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
>>> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
>>> paved the way for the rest of us.
>>> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
>>> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>>> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Neat to have but.. |
Yeah, went hog huntin' with a pair a few years ago. One got ahold of
each ear and held the hog at bay until I got there. Good dogs. But
there's something about the way a BT howls when he has a coon treed.
Sounds like gospel music to me :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
Not to start a war but I like my Catahoulas better than those Blue
Ticks.
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________________________________
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
From: BPA@bpaengines.com
Don't feel too bad for them John. Those coons can get pretty mean when
they get surrounded by a couple of blue ticks. I've seen more than one
good coon dog get more than it bargained for. I could go off sounding
like Jerry Clower with some stories but I'll save those for SNF or OSH
:-)
Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
It is fun to do that riight here in California with them dogs and a Bob
cats. The cats really make some noise right before the dogs think again
and high tail it out of there...I feel bad for those racoons.
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:16:05 -0600
> From: BPA@bpaengines.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Naw, we don't eat them. We don't even shoot them anymore. Just give
the
> dogs a good run. It's a blast listening to the chase.
>
> If I can clear a schedule, I'd like to be there. If I can't, you know
my
> phone will be on. Right before you bust it off, dial my number :)
>
> Allen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:49 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> If it's within 100 miles of here heck yes!! I know they make nifty
hats
> but you don't eat them thing do you...oh wait..your in OK huh? Never
> mind! Allen, paint starting in a week or so, wanna come out in late
Feb
> for the first startup and flight? I have room!!
>
> Rick Sked
> 40185
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:03:50 PM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> Heh, heh, you one smart cookie Rick! :) We're going Saturday night,
> wanna go?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:44 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> I'll give you three guesses who at BPA wrote this and I'll bet it's
not
> the good looking one or the distinguished gentleman who founded the
> company!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:28:31 PM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> Coon huntin'
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:08 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> I'd use them to try to find the friggin outhouse during a new moon.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
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>
> Well I guess being more specific, I wonder if I could get mine (if I
> owned a
> pair) on fast enough to even the odds in a night time altercation. I'm
> not
> anti gun, own several myself but I can't think of as many good
> applications
> for these as there are illegal ones. Not intending to start a
> constitutional
> rights battle, It just seems strange how easily you buy NVG's which
were
> designed for the military, I'm sure these are Russian surplus, to see
> the
> enemy at night...I guess it depends wether you are the shooter or the
> target.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:27:20 AM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
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> > This may be a little off topic but does anyone find it a bit
> > disturbing that these are so easily obtained? I wonder how well it
> > would work in the cockpit?
> >
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55734
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> > Rick S. 40185
>
>
> Why do you find it disturbing?
> That's almost like a lay-person saying "they find it disturbing that
> anyone
> can build their own plane and fly it over their heads."
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> William
> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
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I believe my issue with the static balance on the mains was that I put all the
weight on once side of the wheel.
You can imagine that weight wanting to be thrown off as an imbalance or vibration
starts.
I also used the balancer that Tim shows in his write-up.http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20080503/index.html
At first they were very out of balance statically and took close to 2.5 - 3.0 oz
to bet them balance statically.
Now when I spun them up I could not believe how bad they were. Part of my problem
I feel are my Goodyear Flight Custom III tires.
They seem to be heavier and have more tread and the place where you put the weights
on these wheels are very close to the center (low moment).
To answer how I balance them. I know where I had the weights before and just started
taking weights off as I spun them up.
My buffer was running at 3000 RPM (6" disc), so I had my wheels roughly at 54 mph.
It was really cool that I could still pick up the harmonic I get around 30
mph.
Through trial and error I got them very close. I need to revisit this again and
I will take some video to show you what mine do.
By statically balancing my front wheel and placing weights on each side it worked
out perfect. I feel I just need to go back and statically balance my mains
by evenly distributing the weight.
I may pull the brake off and put the weight on the inside to get it even closer.
I am going to see how my vibration is before balancing the wheel pants.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
________________________________
From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:05:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts
We balanced the wheel pants as a precaution. Each side took almost 8
ounces to neutralize the pants. I hated adding the weight but figured it
was batter than extra vibration and gives me an excuse when my -10 comes
in extra heavy...
I am confused as to the best way to balance (either dynamic or static)
the wheels. I read how Scott got them spinning but one you see it out of
balance how does one know where to place the weight to counteract the
imbalance? I have no idea how one does static balancing. Any hints would
be appreciated.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
AeroProducts
Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
them somewhat neutral.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
David Maib wrote:
>
> Tim,
> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
> location?
>
> Thanks,
> David Maib
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
> balance.
>
>
> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> nukeflyboy wrote:
>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
>> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
>> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
>> paved the way for the rest of us.
>> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
>> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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For those who asked: Yes, the more recent RV-10 kits do come with the upgraded
nut for the trim cable. Basically, a larger welded area between the nut and the
stainless plate. I thought Van's even issued a SB on this?
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
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I have the same balancer as you and Tim but, rather surprisingly, I could
n't find really any point of imbalance on my nose wheel but I still have to
mount the mains. I like the buffer trick and will spin mine up and see if
I get a resonance out of it.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts
I believe my issue with the static balance on the mains was that I put all
the weight on once side of the wheel.
You can imagine that weight wanting to be thrown off as an imbalance or vib
ration starts.
I also used the balancer that Tim shows in his write-up. http://www.myrv10.
com/N104CD/maintenance/20080503/index.html
At first they were very out of balance statically and took close to 2.5 - 3
.0 oz to bet them balance statically.
Now when I spun them up I could not believe how bad they were. Part of my
problem I feel are my Goodyear Flight Custom III tires.
They seem to be heavier and have more tread and the place where you put the
weights on these wheels are very close to the center (low moment).
To answer how I balance them. I know where I had the weights before and ju
st started taking weights off as I spun them up.
My buffer was running at 3000 RPM (6" disc), so I had my wheels roughly at
54 mph. It was really cool that I could still pick up the harmonic I get a
round 30 mph.
Through trial and error I got them very close. I need to revisit this agai
n and I will take some video to show you what mine do.
By statically balancing my front wheel and placing weights on each side it
worked out perfect. I feel I just need to go back and statically balance m
y mains by evenly distributing the weight.
I may pull the brake off and put the weight on the inside to get it even cl
oser.
I am going to see how my vibration is before balancing the wheel pants.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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They did. You're supposed to inspect and replace the part at your cost.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-9-20.pdf
All SB's can be found here:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/notices.htm
-Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts
For those who asked: Yes, the more recent RV-10 kits do come with the
upgraded nut for the trim cable. Basically, a larger welded area between the
nut and the stainless plate. I thought Van's even issued a SB on this?
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224771#224771
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Tim, didn't you take your wheels to be dynamically balanced at a cycle
shop (or somewhere) at one point? Or were you just wondering if that
made sense?
Maybe I'm just getting forgetful...
John Ackerman
On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Just a guess but I bet he spun them, but then looked for where
> they rolled low, just like doing a normal motorcycle balance.
> Then probably spun them up again and checked again. Since
> he said that the weights were all on one side, it can't
> really DO the balance much better than using precision
> bearings...the difference is that he spun them up to look
> for how bad it shook. That's my guess. Otherwise you'd
> need some precision sensors and all that stuff.
>
> FWIW, I saw Harbor Freight had a sale on their motorcycle
> balancer, for $39, and included the precision bearing
> roller shaft stuff, along with a nice stand. Seemed like
> if the quality was good, it would be a good way to go.
>
> I only know my balancer, and I can tell you that if there
> is any weight that is off, that one is sensitive enough to
> show you. But, side-to-side distribution wouldn't be
> possible to determine.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
> Robin Marks wrote:
>> <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
>> We balanced the wheel pants as a precaution. Each side took almost 8
>> ounces to neutralize the pants. I hated adding the weight but
>> figured it
>> was batter than extra vibration and gives me an excuse when my -10
>> comes
>> in extra heavy...
>> I am confused as to the best way to balance (either dynamic or
>> static)
>> the wheels. I read how Scott got them spinning but one you see it
>> out of
>> balance how does one know where to place the weight to counteract the
>> imbalance? I have no idea how one does static balancing. Any hints
>> would
>> be appreciated.
>> Robin
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:15 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
>> AeroProducts
>> Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
>> if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
>> and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
>> up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
>> it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
>> them somewhat neutral.
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> David Maib wrote:
>>>
>>> Tim,
>>> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The
>>> axle location?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> David Maib
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
>>> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
>>> balance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
>>> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
>>> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
>>> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
>>> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
>>> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
>>> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
>>> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
>>> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
>>> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> nukeflyboy wrote:
>>>> <flymoore@charter.net>
>>>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular
>>>> because
>>>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still
>>>> offering
>>>> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
>>>> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
>>>> paved the way for the rest of us.
>>>> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too
>>>> in
>>>> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>>>> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass
>>>> hell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Nope, I did them myself, but on a motorcycle balancer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John Ackerman wrote:
>
> Tim, didn't you take your wheels to be dynamically balanced at a cycle
> shop (or somewhere) at one point? Or were you just wondering if that
> made sense?
> Maybe I'm just getting forgetful...
> John Ackerman
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>>
>> Just a guess but I bet he spun them, but then looked for where
>> they rolled low, just like doing a normal motorcycle balance.
>> Then probably spun them up again and checked again. Since
>> he said that the weights were all on one side, it can't
>> really DO the balance much better than using precision
>> bearings...the difference is that he spun them up to look
>> for how bad it shook. That's my guess. Otherwise you'd
>> need some precision sensors and all that stuff.
>>
>> FWIW, I saw Harbor Freight had a sale on their motorcycle
>> balancer, for $39, and included the precision bearing
>> roller shaft stuff, along with a nice stand. Seemed like
>> if the quality was good, it would be a good way to go.
>>
>> I only know my balancer, and I can tell you that if there
>> is any weight that is off, that one is sensitive enough to
>> show you. But, side-to-side distribution wouldn't be
>> possible to determine.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>
>>
>> Robin Marks wrote:
>>> We balanced the wheel pants as a precaution. Each side took almost 8
>>> ounces to neutralize the pants. I hated adding the weight but figured it
>>> was batter than extra vibration and gives me an excuse when my -10 comes
>>> in extra heavy...
>>> I am confused as to the best way to balance (either dynamic or static)
>>> the wheels. I read how Scott got them spinning but one you see it out of
>>> balance how does one know where to place the weight to counteract the
>>> imbalance? I have no idea how one does static balancing. Any hints would
>>> be appreciated.
>>> Robin
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:15 AM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
>>> AeroProducts
>>> Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
>>> if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
>>> and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
>>> up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
>>> it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
>>> them somewhat neutral.
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> David Maib wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tim,
>>>> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
>>>> location?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David Maib
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
>>>> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
>>>> balance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
>>>> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
>>>> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
>>>> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
>>>> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
>>>> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
>>>> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
>>>> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
>>>> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
>>>> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> nukeflyboy wrote:
>>>>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
>>>>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
>>>>> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
>>>>> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
>>>>> paved the way for the rest of us.
>>>>> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
>>>>> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>>>>> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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This is how we balanced the front wheel.
With the new axle spacer in, we inserted a rod and placed it on two pieces of aluminum.
Worked great.
I had some issues with the motorcycle balancer. The cones were just not large
enough for the mains even though I sort of got it to work.
Scott Schmidt
Cell 801-718-1277
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
________________________________
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:57:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus AeroProducts
Nope, I did them myself, but on a motorcycle balancer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John Ackerman wrote:
>
> Tim, didn't you take your wheels to be dynamically balanced at a cycle
> shop (or somewhere) at one point? Or were you just wondering if that
> made sense?
> Maybe I'm just getting forgetful...
> John Ackerman
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>>
>> Just a guess but I bet he spun them, but then looked for where
>> they rolled low, just like doing a normal motorcycle balance.
>> Then probably spun them up again and checked again. Since
>> he said that the weights were all on one side, it can't
>> really DO the balance much better than using precision
>> bearings...the difference is that he spun them up to look
>> for how bad it shook. That's my guess. Otherwise you'd
>> need some precision sensors and all that stuff.
>>
>> FWIW, I saw Harbor Freight had a sale on their motorcycle
>> balancer, for $39, and included the precision bearing
>> roller shaft stuff, along with a nice stand. Seemed like
>> if the quality was good, it would be a good way to go.
>>
>> I only know my balancer, and I can tell you that if there
>> is any weight that is off, that one is sensitive enough to
>> show you. But, side-to-side distribution wouldn't be
>> possible to determine.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>
>>
>> Robin Marks wrote:
>>> We balanced the wheel pants as a precaution. Each side took almost 8
>>> ounces to neutralize the pants. I hated adding the weight but figured it
>>> was batter than extra vibration and gives me an excuse when my -10 comes
>>> in extra heavy...
>>> I am confused as to the best way to balance (either dynamic or static)
>>> the wheels. I read how Scott got them spinning but one you see it out of
>>> balance how does one know where to place the weight to counteract the
>>> imbalance? I have no idea how one does static balancing. Any hints would
>>> be appreciated.
>>> Robin
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:15 AM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
>>> AeroProducts
>>> Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
>>> if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
>>> and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
>>> up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
>>> it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
>>> them somewhat neutral.
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> David Maib wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tim,
>>>> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
>>>> location?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David Maib
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
>>>> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
>>>> balance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
>>>> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
>>>> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
>>>> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
>>>> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
>>>> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
>>>> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
>>>> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
>>>> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
>>>> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> nukeflyboy wrote:
>>>>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
>>>>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks. They are still offering
>>>>> the sale price. I bought the balance weights too and will balance
>>>>> the mains as well as the nose wheel. My thanks to y'all that have
>>>>> paved the way for the rest of us.
>>>>> On some aircraft it is a good idea to balance the wheel pants too in
>>>>> order to reduce shimmy. Does anyone think this is necessary?
>>>>> -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Yeah, I had to get my motorcycle balancer with some of the larger
cones. It was one with cones for Ducati bikes.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20080503/index.html
He's had many people get them for use with cleveland wheels.
The bearings are super sensitive...any imbalance and it rolls
right away. It's real compact too, for packing away.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> This is how we balanced the front wheel.
> With the new axle spacer in, we inserted a rod and placed it on two
> pieces of aluminum.
> Worked great.
> I had some issues with the motorcycle balancer. The cones were just not
> large enough for the mains even though I sort of got it to work.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> Cell 801-718-1277
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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> *From:* Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:57:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
> AeroProducts
>
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
>
> Nope, I did them myself, but on a motorcycle balancer.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> John Ackerman wrote:
> <mailto:johnag5b@cableone.net>>
> >
> > Tim, didn't you take your wheels to be dynamically balanced at a cycle
> > shop (or somewhere) at one point? Or were you just wondering if that
> > made sense?
> > Maybe I'm just getting forgetful...
> > John Ackerman
> >
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
> >
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
> >>
> >> Just a guess but I bet he spun them, but then looked for where
> >> they rolled low, just like doing a normal motorcycle balance.
> >> Then probably spun them up again and checked again. Since
> >> he said that the weights were all on one side, it can't
> >> really DO the balance much better than using precision
> >> bearings...the difference is that he spun them up to look
> >> for how bad it shook. That's my guess. Otherwise you'd
> >> need some precision sensors and all that stuff.
> >>
> >> FWIW, I saw Harbor Freight had a sale on their motorcycle
> >> balancer, for $39, and included the precision bearing
> >> roller shaft stuff, along with a nice stand. Seemed like
> >> if the quality was good, it would be a good way to go.
> >>
> >> I only know my balancer, and I can tell you that if there
> >> is any weight that is off, that one is sensitive enough to
> >> show you. But, side-to-side distribution wouldn't be
> >> possible to determine.
> >>
> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >>
> >>
> >> Robin Marks wrote:
> <robin1@mrmoisture.com <mailto:robin1@mrmoisture.com>>
> >>> We balanced the wheel pants as a precaution. Each side took almost 8
> >>> ounces to neutralize the pants. I hated adding the weight but
> figured it
> >>> was batter than extra vibration and gives me an excuse when my -10
> comes
> >>> in extra heavy...
> >>> I am confused as to the best way to balance (either dynamic or static)
> >>> the wheels. I read how Scott got them spinning but one you see it
> out of
> >>> balance how does one know where to place the weight to counteract the
> >>> imbalance? I have no idea how one does static balancing. Any hints
> would
> >>> be appreciated.
> >>> Robin
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
> >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:15 AM
> >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Adjustable Axle Spacers - Effectus
> >>> AeroProducts
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
> >>> Yeah, I balanced them around the axle hole area. Not sure
> >>> if it's perfect, but they were very tailheavy otherwise,
> >>> and the more weight that's out there swinging, the more
> >>> up and down they'll go. Even just from a wear perspective
> >>> it just seems like a good thing for longevity to keep
> >>> them somewhat neutral.
> >>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >>> David Maib wrote:
> <mailto:dmaib@mac.com>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim,
> >>>> What do you use for the balancing point of the wheel pants? The axle
> >>>> location?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> David Maib
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
> >>>>
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, when they called about my order they asked if I needed
> >>>> the weights. I already had some, but I highly recommend a
> >>>> balance.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Now, I can't say it made a difference or not, because mine were
> >>>> always like this, but, I taped ziplocs of lead shot to the nose
> >>>> of my wheel fairings, and got them balanced out roughly. Then
> >>>> I epoxied the lead shot into the nose of the fairings. I did
> >>>> it because I had heard that balancing them was a good idea,
> >>>> but it wasn't a common subject to read about...but I just did
> >>>> it. I can't say it made a difference because I didn't ever
> >>>> fly without them that way, as far as I know. But, it probably
> >>>> can't hurt. I would think that if there were a big imbalance
> >>>> it would encourage a rocking motion with the bumps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >>>> do not archive
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> nukeflyboy wrote:
> <flymoore@charter.net <mailto:flymoore@charter.net>>
> >>>>> I just ordered mine from MATCO (sorry Dave). Must be popular because
> >>>>> they are already backordered about 2 weeks.
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All you folks enjoying your nice, fancy, modern slick RV-10s.. Some of you
may have forgotten what it's like for the rest of us.
Brenda Specketer was recently reminded what it's like among the commoners,
the sub-100-kt peasants. .forced to suffer a trip around the patch in the
CherokeeJet.
Neal E. George
Navarre, FL 32566
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| Subject: | Neat to have but.. |
Suggest that we invite Randy Walker of Las Vegas to wield the stick. I'd
love to see a chapped coon nipping at that man's booner.
Bob K
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BPA
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
Yeah, went hog huntin' with a pair a few years ago. One got ahold of each
ear and held the hog at bay until I got there. Good dogs. But there's
something about the way a BT howls when he has a coon treed. Sounds like
gospel music to me J
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
Not to start a war but I like my Catahoulas better than those Blue Ticks.
Do Not Archive
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
From: BPA@bpaengines.com
Don't feel too bad for them John. Those coons can get pretty mean when they
get surrounded by a couple of blue ticks. I've seen more than one good coon
dog get more than it bargained for. I could go off sounding like Jerry
Clower with some stories but I'll save those for SNF or OSH J
Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
It is fun to do that riight here in California with them dogs and a Bob
cats. The cats really make some noise right before the dogs think again and
high tail it out of there...I feel bad for those racoons.
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:16:05 -0600
> From: BPA@bpaengines.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
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> Naw, we don't eat them. We don't even shoot them anymore. Just give the
> dogs a good run. It's a blast listening to the chase.
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> If I can clear a schedule, I'd like to be there. If I can't, you know my
> phone will be on. Right before you bust it off, dial my number :)
>
> Allen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:49 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
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> If it's within 100 miles of here heck yes!! I know they make nifty hats
> but you don't eat them thing do you...oh wait..your in OK huh? Never
> mind! Allen, paint starting in a week or so, wanna come out in late Feb
> for the first startup and flight? I have room!!
>
> Rick Sked
> 40185
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:03:50 PM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
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> Heh, heh, you one smart cookie Rick! :) We're going Saturday night,
> wanna go?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:44 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
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> I'll give you three guesses who at BPA wrote this and I'll bet it's not
> the good looking one or the distinguished gentleman who founded the
> company!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:28:31 PM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
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> Coon huntin'
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:08 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
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> I'd use them to try to find the friggin outhouse during a new moon.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
>
> Well I guess being more specific, I wonder if I could get mine (if I
> owned a
> pair) on fast enough to even the odds in a night time altercation. I'm
> not
> anti gun, own several myself but I can't think of as many good
> applications
> for these as there are illegal ones. Not intending to start a
> constitutional
> rights battle, It just seems strange how easily you buy NVG's which were
> designed for the military, I'm sure these are Russian surplus, to see
> the
> enemy at night...I guess it depends wether you are the shooter or the
> target.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:27:20 AM (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: re: RV10-List: Neat to have but..
>
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> -------- Original Message --------
> > This may be a little off topic but does anyone find it a bit
> > disturbing that these are so easily obtained? I wonder how well it
> > would work in the cockpit?
> > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=55734
>
> > Rick S. 40185
>
>
> Why do you find it disturbing?
> That's almost like a lay-person saying "they find it disturbing that
> anyone
> can build their own plane and fly it over their heads."
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> http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
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