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1. 04:16 AM - Vans Manifold pressure fitting replacement (egohr1)
2. 08:17 AM - Re: Is this corrosion?? (Rick Sked)
3. 08:49 AM - Re: Is this corrosion?? (Jeff Carpenter)
4. 09:04 AM - Riveting (Rob Hunter)
5. 09:05 AM - Re: Is this corrosion?? (Bill and Tami Britton)
6. 09:20 AM - Jacksonville, FL? (Lew Gallagher)
7. 09:20 AM - Re: Riveting (dogsbark@comcast.net)
8. 09:55 AM - Re: Riveting (Rick Sked)
9. 10:02 AM - Re: Is this corrosion?? (Vernon Smith)
10. 10:09 AM - Re: Riveting (egohr1)
11. 10:35 AM - Re: Re: Riveting (Rob Hunter)
12. 04:27 PM - Re: Jacksonville, FL? (Bill and Tami Britton)
13. 04:54 PM - Re: Jacksonville, FL? (Lew Gallagher)
14. 05:31 PM - Re: Jacksonville, FL? (Don McDonald)
15. 08:50 PM - Re: Re: Is this corrosion?? (Kelly McMullen)
16. 09:08 PM - Re: Re: Is this corrosion?? (Bill and Tami Britton)
17. 09:17 PM - Aileron Rigging (McGANN, Ron)
18. 09:52 PM - Re: Aileron Rigging (Tim Olson)
19. 10:25 PM - rudder trim (linn Walters)
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| Subject: | Vans Manifold pressure fitting replacement |
FYI.
McMaster carr part number 5058K243 ALUMINUM SINGLE-BARBED TUBE FITTINGS, ADAPTER
FOR 1/4" TUBE ID X 10-32 UNF MALE, BLUE
This will replace the nylon fitting sent with vans FWF kit for connection to a
AFS or other system.
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eric gohr
EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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| Subject: | Re: Is this corrosion?? |
Bill,
It looks like corrosion but not on a large scale, I suspect that there may
have been some corrosive chemial stored nearby in the garage/workshop? It w
ould take water quite awhile to develop the pitting I see. Pool chemicals,
fertilizer, pesticides etc in a oxygen/moisture enviromet will create an ac
idic atmoshphere that will accelerate the process. Just my $1.25 worth, her
es some info from the U.S.=C2-Army's corrosion identification and abateme
nt course. I did'nt include all the forms just the ones that would be appli
cable to bare metals. Filli form is another fun topic.
Rick Sked
40185
Uniform surface corrosion
Uniform surface corrosion results from a direct chemical attack on a metal
surface and involves only the metal surface. On a polished surface, this ty
pe of corrosion is first seen as a general dulling or etching of the surfac
e and if the attack is allowed to continue, the surface becomes rough and p
ossibly frosted in appearance. This type of corrosion appears uniform becau
se the anodes and cathodes are very small and constantly shift from one are
a of the surface to another. An example is the etching of metals by acids.
The discoloration or general dulling of metal created by exposure to elevat
ed temperatures is not considered to be uniform surface corrosion.
Pitting
The most common corrosion of aluminum and magnesium alloys is pitting. It i
s first noticeable as a white or gray powdery deposit, similar to dust, whi
ch blotches the surface. When the deposit is cleaned away, tiny pits or hol
es can be seen in the surface. Pitting corrosion may also occur in other me
tal types or alloys. The combination of small active anodes to large passiv
e cathodes causes severe pitting.
Galvanic Galvanic corrosion occurs when different metals are in contact wit
h each other and an electrolyte, such as salt water, is present. It is usua
lly recognizable by the presence of a buildup of corrosion at the joint bet
ween the metals. Two dissimilar metals joined together form a galvanic coup
le if moisture and contamination are present
Light corrosion
Where the condition of the metal is characterized by discoloration and pitt
ing to a depth of 0.001 INCH (1 mil). This type of damage can normally be r
emoved by light hand sanding. Where the condition of the metal is character
ized by discoloration and pitting to a depth of 0.001 INCH (1 mil). This ty
pe of damage can normally be removed by light hand sanding. mil). This type
of damage can normally be removed by light hand sanding. =C2-=C2-
Moderate corrosion
Where the condition of the metal is characterized by blisters, evidence of
scaling, of the coating or paint system, intergranular corrosion, and pitti
ng to a depth of 0.001 INCH (1 mil) to 0.010 INCH (10 mils). This type of d
amage shall be removed by extensive hand sanding, light mechanical sanding,
or by deoxidizing with a corrosion removing compound. system, intergranula
r corrosion, and pitting to a depth of 0.001 INCH (1 mil) to 0.010 INCH (10
mils). This type of damage shall be removed by extensive hand sanding, lig
ht mechanical sanding, or by deoxidizing with a corrosion removing compound
. type of damage shall be removed by extensive hand sanding, light mechanic
al sanding, or by deoxidizing with a corrosion removing compound. with a co
rrosion removing compound.
Severe corrosion
Where the condition of the metal is characterized by blistering, evidence o
f scaling, flaking of the coating or paint system, intergranular corrosion,
and pitting to a depth greater than 0.010 INCH (10 mills). This type of da
mage shall be removed by extensive mechanical sanding, grinding, or by deox
idizing with a corrosion removing compound or paint system, intergranular c
orrosion, and pitting to a depth greater than 0.010 INCH (10 mills). This t
ype of damage shall be removed by extensive mechanical sanding, grinding, o
r by deoxidizing with a corrosion removing compound of damage shall be remo
ved by extensive mechanical sanding, grinding, or by deoxidizing with a cor
rosion removing compound removing compound
Enviromental factors
Moisture
Moisture is present in the air and often contains contaminants such as chlo
rides, sulfates, and nitrates. Condensed moisture after it evaporates, will
leave its contaminants on surfaces of the aircraft. Accumulations of moist
ure may result from cycles of warming and cooling, and drawn along poor bon
d lines by capillary action. moisture after it evaporates, will leave its c
ontaminants on surfaces of the aircraft. Accumulations of moisture may resu
lt from cycles of warming and cooling, and drawn along poor bond lines by c
apillary action. result from cycles of warming and cooling, and drawn along
poor bond lines by capillary action.
Temperature/Climate
Generally, corrosion will increase as temperatures rise, but a moderate inc
rease may reduce corrosion by prevent- ing condensation. Temperatures above
104 =C2=B0 F (40 =C2=B0 C) will inhibit mold and bacteria growth. Temperat
ures held at the lower end of the range will generally reduce the rate of c
orrosion. Warm, moist air, normally found in tropical climates tends to acc
elerate corrosion while cold, dry air normally found in artic climates tend
s to reduce corrosion rates. Corrosion =C2-does =C2-not =C2-occur =C2
-in =C2-very =C2-dry =C2-conditions. =C2-Certain =C2-areas =C2
-within =C2-an =C2-aircraft, =C2-such =C2-as =C2-the =C2-cock
pit =C2-and =C2-air conditioned equipment bays, may be subjected to cli
matic dry air that has been cooled by air conditioners. This reduces its ab
ility to hold moisture, and when ducted into interior area of the aircraft,
can release sufficient moisture to accelerate corrosion. ing condensation.
Temperatures above 104 =C2=B0 F (40 =C2=B0 C) will inhibit mold and bacter
ia growth. Temperatures held at the lower end of the range will generally r
educe the rate of corrosion. Warm, moist air, normally found in tropical cl
imates tends to accelerate corrosion while cold, dry air normally found in
artic climates tends to reduce corrosion rates. Corrosion =C2-does =C2-
not =C2-occur =C2-in =C2-very =C2-dry =C2-conditions. =C2-Certa
in =C2-areas =C2-within =C2-an =C2-aircraft, =C2-such =C2-as
=C2-the =C2-cockpit =C2-and =C2-air conditioned equipment bays, may
be subjected to climatic dry air that has been cooled by air conditioners.
This reduces its ability to hold moisture, and when ducted into interior a
rea of the aircraft, can release sufficient moisture to accelerate corrosio
n. lower end of the range will generally reduce the rate of corrosion. Warm
, moist air, normally found in tropical climates tends to accelerate corros
ion while cold, dry air normally found in artic climates tends to reduce co
rrosion rates. Corrosion =C2-does =C2-not =C2-occur =C2-in =C2-ve
ry =C2-dry =C2-conditions. =C2-Certain =C2-areas =C2-within =C2
-an =C2-aircraft, =C2-such =C2-as =C2-the =C2-cockpit =C2-and
=C2-air conditioned equipment bays, may be subjected to climatic dry air
that has been cooled by air conditioners. This reduces its ability to hold
moisture, and when ducted into interior area of the aircraft, can release
sufficient moisture to accelerate corrosion. tends to accelerate corrosion
while cold, dry air normally found in artic climates tends to reduce corros
ion rates. Corrosion =C2-does =C2-not =C2-occur =C2-in =C2-very
=C2-dry =C2-conditions. =C2-Certain =C2-areas =C2-within =C2-an
=C2-aircraft, =C2-such =C2-as =C2-the =C2-cockpit =C2-and =C2
-air conditioned equipment bays, may be subjected to climatic dry air tha
t has been cooled by air conditioners. This reduces its ability to hold moi
sture, and when ducted into interior area of the aircraft, can release suff
icient moisture to accelerate corrosion. Corrosion =C2-does =C2-not =C2
-occur =C2-in =C2-very =C2-dry =C2-conditions. =C2-Certain =C2
-areas =C2-within =C2-an =C2-aircraft, =C2-such =C2-as =C2-th
e =C2-cockpit =C2-and =C2-air conditioned equipment bays, may be subj
ected to climatic dry air that has been cooled by air conditioners. This re
duces its ability to hold moisture, and when ducted into interior area of t
he aircraft, can release sufficient moisture to accelerate corrosion. condi
tioned equipment bays, may be subjected to climatic dry air that has been c
ooled by air conditioners. This reduces its ability to hold moisture, and w
hen ducted into interior area of the aircraft, can release sufficient moist
ure to accelerate corrosion. reduces its ability to hold moisture, and when
ducted into interior area of the aircraft, can release sufficient moisture
to accelerate corrosion. to accelerate corrosion.
Salt Salt
Salt dissolved in water forms a strong electrolyte. Normal winds carry 10 t
o 100 pounds of sea salt per cubic mile of air. Since dissolved salts are s
trong electrolytes, salt water environments are highly corrosive to aircraf
t. d.=C2-=C2-=C2- Ozone Ozone is an active form or oxygen which is fo
rmed naturally during thunderstorms, by arcing in electrical devices, and b
y photochemical reactions in smog. When ozone is absorbed by electrolyte so
lutions in contact with metals, it increases the rate of corrosion. air. Si
nce dissolved salts are strong electrolytes, salt water environments are hi
ghly corrosive to aircraft. d.=C2-=C2-=C2- Ozone Ozone is an active f
orm or oxygen which is formed naturally during thunderstorms, by arcing in
electrical devices, and by photochemical reactions in smog. When ozone is a
bsorbed by electrolyte solutions in contact with metals, it increases the r
ate of corrosion. d.=C2-=C2-=C2- Ozone Ozone is an active form or oxy
gen which is formed naturally during thunderstorms, by arcing in electrical
devices, and by photochemical reactions in smog. When ozone is absorbed by
electrolyte solutions in contact with metals, it increases the rate of cor
rosion. Ozone is an active form or oxygen which is formed naturally during
thunderstorms, by arcing in electrical devices, and by photochemical reacti
ons in smog. When ozone is absorbed by electrolyte solutions in contact wit
h metals, it increases the rate of corrosion. and by photochemical reaction
s in smog. When ozone is absorbed by electrolyte solutions in contact with
metals, it increases the rate of corrosion. increases the rate of corrosion
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:57:04 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RV10-List: Is this corrosion??
Finally got around to wings and found what looks like corrosion on some of
the W-1025A flap hinge brackets.=C2- If it's corrosion do I need to worry
about it and replace the parts or clean and prime them somehow???=C2- I'
ll send pics to Vans also to see what they say.
Thanks,
bill
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| Subject: | Re: Is this corrosion?? |
Bill,
My suggestion is to take a scotchbrite pad to it until whatever that
is is gone and the surface is smooth. Clean it up with some coleman
fuel or acetone and shoot it with a bit of primer. Unless that runs
deep in to the part, I don't think you've got a problem.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
(spending a lot of time on the phone with Stein these days...
structure is almost done, control systems are in... but big money
between me and the finish line)
On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> Finally got around to wings and found what looks like corrosion on
> some of the W-1025A flap hinge brackets. If it's corrosion do I
> need to worry about it and replace the parts or clean and prime
> them somehow??? I'll send pics to Vans also to see what they say.
>
> Thanks,
> bill<AA318B05B7A4448AA55D75FB990EEE86>
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Page 28-14 step 3. Rivet callouts are on page 28-12
Riveting the bottom flange of the Fwd Center Section Bulkhead to the
F-1076 Center bottom skin and the F-1072. The outboard 7 rivets are to
be double flush on my plans. How does one go about that. Do you
counter sink the Bulkhead holes.
I noticed that the older plans don't call for the double flush rivets.
My plans don't call for any prep of the holes for double flush rivets.
Just trying to prevent another screw up.
Thanks in advance,
Rob Hunter
40432
Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Is this corrosion?? |
Thanks guys. Ken from Vans says to clean it up and prime it. It was
mentioned that I must store chemicals in the garage to create a somewhat
"acidic"environment but in reality I don't store any chemicals in there.
The blue "wrap" from vans was peeled off where the "corrosion" took
place.
Thanks,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Carpenter
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Is this corrosion??
Bill,
My suggestion is to take a scotchbrite pad to it until whatever that
is is gone and the surface is smooth. Clean it up with some coleman
fuel or acetone and shoot it with a bit of primer. Unless that runs
deep in to the part, I don't think you've got a problem.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
(spending a lot of time on the phone with Stein these days...
structure is almost done, control systems are in... but big money
between me and the finish line)
On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
Finally got around to wings and found what looks like corrosion on
some of the W-1025A flap hinge brackets. If it's corrosion do I need to
worry about it and replace the parts or clean and prime them somehow???
I'll send pics to Vans also to see what they say.
Thanks,
bill<AA318B05B7A4448AA55D75FB990EEE86>
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| Subject: | Jacksonville, FL? |
Hey Guys,
This is a long shot, but here goes.
I've just received my treatment appointment dates for prostate cancer in Jacksonville,
FL. I'll be there for two months starting April 11th.
This treatment is awesome (again, contact me if you know anyone even considering
surgery of any kind for this -- it's obsolete!) but it will only occupy me for
about an hour a day and the rest of the time I'll be looking for something
to do. Is there anyone building an RV in the Jacksonville area who could use
another pair of hands? Jessie? Have tools, will travel -- cheap! Fiberglass
work is not a problem.
Also, I'm just starting to try to find a place to stay so let me know if anyone
has connections to rental/condo/timeshare etc. property that might be available
for two months.
Later, - Lew
Do not archive.
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
Piddling with wiring and avionics.
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Rob,
Yes, you machine countersink to do this.=C2- If I remember correctly, the
landing gear bracket has a flange that resides in that area.=C2- It will
need to sit flush and the shop heads will interfere.
Sean Blair
#40225
For Sale
=C2-=C2-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hunter" <rwhunter@integra.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:03:14 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: RV10-List: Riveting
Page 28-14 step 3.=C2- Rivet callouts are on page 28-12
Riveting the bottom flange of the Fwd Center Section Bulkhead to the F-1076
Center bottom skin and the F-1072.=C2- The outboard 7 rivets are to be d
ouble flush on my plans.=C2- How does one go about that.=C2- Do you cou
nter sink the Bulkhead holes.
I noticed that the older plans don't=C2-call for the double flush rivets.
=C2- My plans don't call for any prep of the holes for double flush rivet
s.
Just trying to prevent another screw up.
Thanks in advance,
Rob Hunter
40432
=============
==
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YUP!!! Sean has it right...I missed it at first, seems the misses are easy
to remember.
Rick S.
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: dogsbark@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:19:16 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Riveting
Rob,
Yes, you machine countersink to do this.=C2- If I remember correctly, the
landing gear bracket has a flange that resides in that area.=C2- It will
need to sit flush and the shop heads will interfere.
Sean Blair
#40225
For Sale
=C2-=C2-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hunter" <rwhunter@integra.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:03:14 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: RV10-List: Riveting
Page 28-14 step 3.=C2- Rivet callouts are on page 28-12
Riveting the bottom flange of the Fwd Center Section Bulkhead to the F-1076
Center bottom skin and the F-1072.=C2- The outboard 7 rivets are to be d
ouble flush on my plans.=C2- How does one go about that.=C2- Do you cou
nter sink the Bulkhead holes.
I noticed that the older plans don't=C2-call for the double flush rivets.
=C2- My plans don't call for any prep of the holes for double flush rivet
s.
Just trying to prevent another screw up.
Thanks in advance,
Rob Hunter
40432
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| Subject: | Is this corrosion?? |
Bill=2C
If you have Alumiprep and alodine these are good to use. The etching and co
nversion coat process will stop any corrosion that may be missed by the Sco
tchbrite.
Vern Smith (finishing #324)
From: william@gbta.netTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: RV10-List: Is
this corrosion??Date: Fri=2C 16 Jan 2009 11:04:39 -0600
Thanks guys. Ken from Vans says to clean it up and prime it. It was menti
oned that I must store chemicals in the garage to create a somewhat "acidic
"environment but in reality I don't store any chemicals in there. The blue
"wrap" from vans was peeled off where the "corrosion" took place.
Thanks=2C
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Carpenter
Sent: Friday=2C January 16=2C 2009 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Is this corrosion??
Bill=2C
My suggestion is to take a scotchbrite pad to it until whatever that is is
gone and the surface is smooth. Clean it up with some coleman fuel or acet
one and shoot it with a bit of primer. Unless that runs deep in to the par
t=2C I don't think you've got a problem.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
(spending a lot of time on the phone with Stein these days... structure is
almost done=2C control systems are in... but big money between me and the f
inish line)
On Jan 15=2C 2009=2C at 8:57 PM=2C Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
Finally got around to wings and found what looks like corrosion on some of
the W-1025A flap hinge brackets. If it's corrosion do I need to worry abou
t it and replace the parts or clean and prime them somehow??? I'll send pi
cs to Vans also to see what they say.
Thanks=2C
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Be glad the plans show it now. My plans did not and I had to redo the rivets when
fitting the landing gear brackets.
Make sure the rivet is flush with the bulkhead, otherwise the bracket will not
fit right.
--------
eric gohr
EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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Thanks Guys!
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of egohr1
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Riveting
--> <EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu>
Be glad the plans show it now. My plans did not and I had to redo the
rivets when fitting the landing gear brackets.
Make sure the rivet is flush with the bulkhead, otherwise the bracket
will not fit right.
--------
eric gohr
EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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| Subject: | Re: Jacksonville, FL? |
Lew, wish I lived closer to FL. However, I'm in Kansas. Anyway, best of
luck with your treatment. My wife (34 years old) is in the final stages of
breast cancer and so far all looks well. Hope the same for you.
Bill
PS. It is nice to have a "Hobby" like ours to ease our minds from the real
trials of life!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Jacksonville, FL?
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> This is a long shot, but here goes.
>
> I've just received my treatment appointment dates for prostate cancer in
> Jacksonville, FL. I'll be there for two months starting April 11th.
>
> This treatment is awesome (again, contact me if you know anyone even
> considering surgery of any kind for this -- it's obsolete!) but it will
> only occupy me for about an hour a day and the rest of the time I'll be
> looking for something to do. Is there anyone building an RV in the
> Jacksonville area who could use another pair of hands? Jessie? Have
> tools, will travel -- cheap! Fiberglass work is not a problem.
>
> Also, I'm just starting to try to find a place to stay so let me know if
> anyone has connections to rental/condo/timeshare etc. property that might
> be available for two months.
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> Do not archive.
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
> Piddling with wiring and avionics.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225120#225120
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jacksonville, FL? |
Hey Linn,
My screener deleted your response before it went to my email, but I got a glimpse,
and I'll respond here because of that. Otherwise I'll keep the cancer stuff
off the forum. lewgall(at)charter.net
This treatment is proton beam therapy. Unlike traditional radiation which uses
photons that does damage on the way in and on the way out; they strip the electrons
off the hydrogen atom, then focus the remaining protons at the prostate.
Protons have a low energy entrance, peaks energy release at a very specific
distance, then dissipates - no exit damage. Unlike any other procedure (including
the ultrasound or microwave experiments), they have achieved accuracy at
0.1 mm. !!! Way cool. No collateral damage, no side effects, painless, non-invasive
- as good or better results cancer wise as every other procedure.
I'm off on weekends and I had thought of trying to catch a shuttle launch if there
is one during my time there.
Bill, you are absolutely right -- building is a wonderful reality check for me
in many ways. I tend to have a really vivid imagination that can lean toward
the worst case scenario if I let it -- one of the BIG reasons I'm not flying!
... yet! Other really neat uses of this proton therapy are for brain tumors
in children, optic nerve tumors, lung cancer, AND breast cancer.
Back to building -- let me know if there are any builds going on in Jacksonville
that could use some help.
Later, - Lew
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
Piddling with wiring and avionics.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225196#225196
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| Subject: | Re: Jacksonville, FL? |
Lew, I'm packing up my plane and should be in Jacksonville by next week....
. How can anyone pass up an offer for free work and camaraderie... just kid
ding.- Hey, I know, see if they can do the treatment in the Sacramento ar
ea.- I'll even put you up.
Keep us posted, there should be someone building in that area.
Don McDonald
--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Lew Gallagher <lewgall@charter.net> wrote:
From: Lew Gallagher <lewgall@charter.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Jacksonville, FL?
<lewgall@charter.net>
Hey Guys,
This is a long shot, but here goes.
I've just received my treatment appointment dates for prostate cancer in
Jacksonville, FL. I'll be there for two months starting April 11th.
This treatment is awesome (again, contact me if you know anyone even
considering surgery of any kind for this -- it's obsolete!) but it will onl
y
occupy me for about an hour a day and the rest of the time I'll be looking
for something to do. Is there anyone building an RV in the Jacksonville ar
ea
who could use another pair of hands? Jessie? Have tools, will travel -- c
heap!
Fiberglass work is not a problem.
Also, I'm just starting to try to find a place to stay so let me know if
anyone has connections to rental/condo/timeshare etc. property that might b
e
available for two months.
Later, - Lew
Do not archive.
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Painting when it's 60+ degrees!
Piddling with wiring and avionics.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225120#225120
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| Subject: | Re: Is this corrosion?? |
Have you cleaned with acetone? Frequently the blue vinyl leaves adhesive
behind that looks like white residue. If not adhesive, probably fine
scotchbrite will clean it right up.
Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> Thanks guys. Ken from Vans says to clean it up and prime it. It was
> mentioned that I must store chemicals in the garage to create a somewhat
> "acidic"environment but in reality I don't store any chemicals in
> there. The blue "wrap" from vans was peeled off where the "corrosion"
> took place.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jeff Carpenter <mailto:jeff@westcottpress.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2009 10:47 AM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Is this corrosion??
>
> Bill,
>
> My suggestion is to take a scotchbrite pad to it until whatever that
> is is gone and the surface is smooth. Clean it up with some coleman
> fuel or acetone and shoot it with a bit of primer. Unless that runs
> deep in to the part, I don't think you've got a problem.
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
> (spending a lot of time on the phone with Stein these days...
> structure is almost done, control systems are in... but big money
> between me and the finish line)
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
>
>> Finally got around to wings and found what looks like corrosion on
>> some of the W-1025A flap hinge brackets. If it's corrosion do I
>> need to worry about it and replace the parts or clean and prime
>> them somehow??? I'll send pics to Vans also to see what they say.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> bill<AA318B05B7A4448AA55D75FB990EEE86>
>
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Haven't tried anything yet but will in the next day or two. Too busy
working on spars and ribs!!!
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: Is this corrosion??
>
> Have you cleaned with acetone? Frequently the blue vinyl leaves adhesive
> behind that looks like white residue. If not adhesive, probably fine
> scotchbrite will clean it right up.
>
> Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
>> Thanks guys. Ken from Vans says to clean it up and prime it. It was
>> mentioned that I must store chemicals in the garage to create a somewhat
>> "acidic"environment but in reality I don't store any chemicals in
>> there. The blue "wrap" from vans was peeled off where the "corrosion"
>> took place.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Jeff Carpenter <mailto:jeff@westcottpress.com>
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2009 10:47 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Is this corrosion??
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> My suggestion is to take a scotchbrite pad to it until whatever that
>> is is gone and the surface is smooth. Clean it up with some coleman
>> fuel or acetone and shoot it with a bit of primer. Unless that runs
>> deep in to the part, I don't think you've got a problem.
>>
>> Jeff Carpenter
>> 40304
>> (spending a lot of time on the phone with Stein these days...
>> structure is almost done, control systems are in... but big money
>> between me and the finish line)
>>
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
>>
>>> Finally got around to wings and found what looks like corrosion on
>>> some of the W-1025A flap hinge brackets. If it's corrosion do I
>>> need to worry about it and replace the parts or clean and prime
>>> them somehow??? I'll send pics to Vans also to see what they say.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> bill<AA318B05B7A4448AA55D75FB990EEE86>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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I have a feeling that this may have been covered before - forgive me if I a
m going over old ground.
I spent today doing the final rigging of the ailerons pending first flight.
With the elevators in the neutral position, I managed to achieve a near p
erfect alignment of flaps, ailerons and wingtip on both sides, with the sti
cks both centered and bolt upright. I felt good.
With the wing trailing edges in alignment, I moved the elevator up and down
and found that both ailerons would move up more than 1/4" when the elevato
r TE was dropped. Not much (if any) movement of the ailerons from neutral
when the elevator TE is raised.
I don't think I have a problem, the ailerons move up only with full forward
stick (not a condition I expect much) and both are deflected the same amou
nt. Is it possible to achieve flap, aileron, tip alignment through all elev
ator positions?
cheers,
Ron
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gettin' nervous!
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Sounds like you did a good job. No, it's not possible
to keep them all aligned throughout the entire elevator
throw.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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McGANN, Ron wrote:
>
> I have a feeling that this may have been covered before - forgive me if
> I am going over old ground.
>
> I spent today doing the final rigging of the ailerons pending first
> flight. With the elevators in the neutral position, I managed to
> achieve a near perfect alignment of flaps, ailerons and wingtip on both
> sides, with the sticks both centered and bolt upright. I felt good.
>
> With the wing trailing edges in alignment, I moved the elevator up and
> down and found that both ailerons would move up more than 1/4" when the
> elevator TE was dropped. Not much (if any) movement of the ailerons
> from neutral when the elevator TE is raised.
>
> I don't think I have a problem, the ailerons move up only with full
> forward stick (not a condition I expect much) and both are deflected the
> same amount. Is it possible to achieve flap, aileron, tip alignment
> through all elevator positions?
>
> cheers,
> Ron
> -187
> gettin' nervous!
>
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I've seen mention of rudder trim made from hinge material. I'm going
that route and wonder how effective it is with just the hinge or if
extra area was needed.
So, for those that didn't cut the rudder and installed 'hinge trim', how
well does it work, how big (I saw 1') did you make yours, and did you
have to add a tab on the hinge.
TIA
Linn
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