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1. 05:59 AM - Re: Aileron Rigging (Jesse Saint)
2. 06:02 AM - Re: rudder trim (Jesse Saint)
3. 06:16 AM - Re: Re: Jacksonville, FL? (gary)
4. 07:29 AM - Wing Tip Construction Stall Warning System Steps (Andrew Johnson)
5. 07:52 AM - Re: rudder trim (Tim Olson)
6. 08:26 AM - Re: Front Wheel Axle Spacers - A Permanent Fix (gommone7@bellsouth.net)
7. 08:30 AM - Re: Front Wheel Axle Spacers - A Permanent Fix (gommone7@bellsouth.net)
8. 09:03 AM - Re: rudder trim (Chuck Weyant)
9. 09:04 AM - Re: rudder trim (Vernon Smith)
10. 09:35 AM - Re: rudder trim (Tim Olson)
11. 06:03 PM - Re: rudder trim (Vernon Smith)
12. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: Jacksonville, FL? (Lew Gallagher)
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Rigging |
Just like Tim said. You want them even with the flaps when the
elevator is neutral. Because of the way the sticks are connected both
to the elevator and ailerons, the angle changes on the aileron
pushrods going from the sticks to the wingroot when the stick is moved
fore and aft, pulling the ailerons up when at either side of neutral
elevator. You did it just right.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:15 AM, McGANN, Ron wrote:
>
> I have a feeling that this may have been covered before - forgive me
> if I am going over old ground.
>
> I spent today doing the final rigging of the ailerons pending first
> flight. With the elevators in the neutral position, I managed to
> achieve a near perfect alignment of flaps, ailerons and wingtip on
> both sides, with the sticks both centered and bolt upright. I felt
> good.
>
> With the wing trailing edges in alignment, I moved the elevator up
> and down and found that both ailerons would move up more than 1/4"
> when the elevator TE was dropped. Not much (if any) movement of the
> ailerons from neutral when the elevator TE is raised.
>
> I don't think I have a problem, the ailerons move up only with full
> forward stick (not a condition I expect much) and both are deflected
> the same amount. Is it possible to achieve flap, aileron, tip
> alignment through all elevator positions?
>
> cheers,
> Ron
> -187
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The trims I've used are about 8 inches long by about 1.5 inches wide,
from my memory. This is the aerotrim servo and tab (which is now in
limbo because Norm passed away). This may allow more trim then I
expect to use, but with a narrower tab you would have to turn it
further to trim the plane. I don't know if that would create more
drag or not.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:21 AM, linn Walters wrote:
> >
>
> I've seen mention of rudder trim made from hinge material. I'm
> going that route and wonder how effective it is with just the hinge
> or if extra area was needed.
>
> So, for those that didn't cut the rudder and installed 'hinge trim',
> how well does it work, how big (I saw 1') did you make yours, and
> did you have to add a tab on the hinge.
> TIA
> Linn
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jacksonville, FL? |
>From someone who has been through prostate cancer and out the other side
with a valid 3rd class physical, know that you will get through this and can
get your medical back. Find yourself a great flight surgeon and let him
help you.
Gary Specketer
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Jacksonville, FL?
Hey Linn,
My screener deleted your response before it went to my email, but I got a
glimpse, and I'll respond here because of that. Otherwise I'll keep the
cancer stuff off the forum. lewgall(at)charter.net
This treatment is proton beam therapy. Unlike traditional radiation which
uses photons that does damage on the way in and on the way out; they strip
the electrons off the hydrogen atom, then focus the remaining protons at the
prostate. Protons have a low energy entrance, peaks energy release at a
very specific distance, then dissipates - no exit damage. Unlike any other
procedure (including the ultrasound or microwave experiments), they have
achieved accuracy at 0.1 mm. !!! Way cool. No collateral damage, no side
effects, painless, non-invasive - as good or better results cancer wise as
every other procedure.
I'm off on weekends and I had thought of trying to catch a shuttle launch if
there is one during my time there.
Bill, you are absolutely right -- building is a wonderful reality check for
me in many ways. I tend to have a really vivid imagination that can lean
toward the worst case scenario if I let it -- one of the BIG reasons I'm not
flying! ... yet! Other really neat uses of this proton therapy are for
brain tumors in children, optic nerve tumors, lung cancer, AND breast
cancer.
Back to building -- let me know if there are any builds going on in
Jacksonville that could use some help.
Later, - Lew
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| Subject: | Wing Tip Construction Stall Warning System Steps |
Hello everyone, I'm new to the email list, but was wondering if someone
might have some guidance. I'm working on the wingtips, and the directions
recommend doing the steps on 19-2 before continuing onward. It doesn't
state which steps to perform on 19-2, and as I look at chapter 19, it looks
as though there are steps on 19-3 that could be done also. Can anyone tell
me exactly which steps they performed in chapter 19 as part of the chapter
17 wingtip construction? Thanks.
Andy Johnson
Poquoson, VA
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I think Vic's was 11' or 10'. You don't need to go
any larger than that, for sure. And, you don't
need to add any more area to the hinge. That should
be plenty. You MAY be able to get by with 8", but it
would deflect more. I'd say 10-11" works well, without
requiring tons of deflection, and unless you build a
pretty crooked plane, it should work fine for you.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
linn Walters wrote:
>
> I've seen mention of rudder trim made from hinge material. I'm going
> that route and wonder how effective it is with just the hinge or if
> extra area was needed.
>
> So, for those that didn't cut the rudder and installed 'hinge trim', how
> well does it work, how big (I saw 1') did you make yours, and did you
> have to add a tab on the hinge.
> TIA
> Linn
>
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| Subject: | Re: Front Wheel Axle Spacers - A Permanent Fix |
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| Subject: | Re: Front Wheel Axle Spacers - A Permanent Fix |
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On my RV9A used a piece of Balsa obtained from the local hobby store. Cut
and ripped it into the shape of a wedge. After several flights and
shortening the length (I started with a piece 1.5" wide, 5" long, 3/8"
thick on the fat edge) I ended up with a wedge that was 3" long and 1/4"
thick on both rudder and aileron. Then I rattle canned it, and Scotch
Double Sided taped it to the rudder and aileron. Light and effective, easy
to modify if needed and it never came off after 300 hours even in coastal
marine air and five hours flying in rain. Worked for me and will use Balsa
on the RV10 about two months from completion.
Chuck
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From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder trim
>
> The trims I've used are about 8 inches long by about 1.5 inches wide,
> from my memory. This is the aerotrim servo and tab (which is now in
> limbo because Norm passed away). This may allow more trim then I expect
> to use, but with a narrower tab you would have to turn it further to trim
> the plane. I don't know if that would create more drag or not.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:21 AM, linn Walters wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> I've seen mention of rudder trim made from hinge material. I'm going
>> that route and wonder how effective it is with just the hinge or if
>> extra area was needed.
>>
>> So, for those that didn't cut the rudder and installed 'hinge trim', how
>> well does it work, how big (I saw 1') did you make yours, and did you
>> have to add a tab on the hinge.
>> TIA
>> Linn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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HI Tim=2C
How=2C
Much does the hinge deflection at full travel and do you ever use full defl
ection in flight?
Vern Smith (#324 finishing=3B rudder trim)
> Date: Sat=2C 17 Jan 2009 09:50:31 -0600
> From: Tim@MyRV10.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder trim
>
>
> I think Vic's was 11' or 10'. You don't need to go
> any larger than that=2C for sure. And=2C you don't
> need to add any more area to the hinge. That should
> be plenty. You MAY be able to get by with 8"=2C but it
> would deflect more. I'd say 10-11" works well=2C without
> requiring tons of deflection=2C and unless you build a
> pretty crooked plane=2C it should work fine for you.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> linn Walters wrote:
t>
> >
> > I've seen mention of rudder trim made from hinge material. I'm going
> > that route and wonder how effective it is with just the hinge or if
> > extra area was needed.
> >
> > So=2C for those that didn't cut the rudder and installed 'hinge trim'
=2C how
> > well does it work=2C how big (I saw 1') did you make yours=2C and did y
ou
> > have to add a tab on the hinge.
> > TIA
> > Linn
> >
>
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I've never come anywhere near full deflection, usually it's
about 1/8" to 1/4" max off to the left. It's nice seeing
it not making some large angle with the rudder...it doesn't
stand out so much that way.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Vernon Smith wrote:
> HI Tim,
>
> How,
>
> Much does the hinge deflection at full travel and do you ever use full
> deflection in flight?
>
> Vern Smith (#324 finishing; rudder trim)
>
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:50:31 -0600
> > From: Tim@MyRV10.com
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder trim
> >
> >
> > I think Vic's was 11' or 10'. You don't need to go
> > any larger than that, for sure. And, you don't
> > need to add any more area to the hinge. That should
> > be plenty. You MAY be able to get by with 8", but it
> > would deflect more. I'd say 10-11" works well, without
> > requiring tons of deflection, and unless you build a
> > pretty crooked plane, it should work fine for you.
> >
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > linn Walters wrote:
> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > I've seen mention of rudder trim made from hinge material. I'm going
> > > that route and wonder how effective it is with just the hinge or if
> > > extra area was needed.
> > >
> > > So, for those that didn't cut the rudder and installed 'hinge
> trim', how
> > > well does it work, how big (I saw 1') did you make yours, and did you
> > > have to add a tab on the hinge.
> > > TIA
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It's good to hear it doesn't take much trim to get the job done.
Thanks=2C
Vern
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> Date: Sat=2C 17 Jan 2009 11:34:27 -0600
> From: Tim@MyRV10.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder trim
>
>
> I've never come anywhere near full deflection=2C usually it's
> about 1/8" to 1/4" max off to the left. It's nice seeing
> it not making some large angle with the rudder...it doesn't
> stand out so much that way.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Jacksonville, FL? |
Hey Gary,
Thanks for the response and the support. I'm not a pilot -- not sure I ever
will be -- just love building. I've done a great deal of work on my
friend's -10 and I'm hooked!
So no issue of getting my medical back, or getting a flight surgeon. By the
way, there is not an MD in my area (and they pride themselves on being state
of the art!) who is familiar with proton beam therapy -- or else they are
protecting their area of expertise or income. I had to find this on my own
and aggressively pursue it. Altho it will be difficult to be away from home
for two months, and no income for two months, and no -10 building for two
months, the benefits of no side effects, no pain, no collateral damage, no
incisions -- make it a no-brainer for me!
Don, Thanks for the great attitude! The closest treatment center (and the
first one, since early 90's) to you is Loma Linda hospital in LA -- I almost
went there, may yet if I get great offers like yours!
Later, - Lew
----- Original Message -----
From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Jacksonville, FL?
>
>>From someone who has been through prostate cancer and out the other side
> with a valid 3rd class physical, know that you will get through this and
> can
> get your medical back. Find yourself a great flight surgeon and let him
> help you.
>
> Gary Specketer
>
>
>
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