---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/21/09: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:41 AM - Re: Garmin GPSMAP 496 For Sale (Patrick ONeill) 2. 04:38 AM - Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software (Tim Olson) 3. 05:04 AM - Re: Cowl fitting question - when (Tim Olson) 4. 05:24 AM - Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software (Lenny Iszak) 5. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software (Chris Johnston) 6. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software (Tim Olson) 7. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software (Eric Ekberg) 8. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 9. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software (Tim Olson) 10. 12:20 PM - Engine For Sale (George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 605 TES/DOA) 11. 01:02 PM - Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up (Tim Olson) 12. 05:46 PM - Re: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up (pascal) 13. 10:39 PM - Re: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:05 AM PST US From: "Patrick ONeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Garmin GPSMAP 496 For Sale Hi Brian, Great! That is just what I wanted to hear. I've been thinking about the upgrade for a while and wondering whether to do it or not considering the eventual RV-10 completion. I'm glad to hear someone else considers it a worthwhile upgrade. It appears to resolve most of my gripes about the 496. I can't wait to take it up and put it through its paces. Patrick #40715 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cloudvalley@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:00 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Garmin GPSMAP 496 For Sale Hello Patrick, My wife and I did the exact same thing. We sold our 496 and got the 696. It's really great! Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick ONeill" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:47:46 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RV10-List: Garmin GPSMAP 496 For Sale Hi All, I've decided to upgrade to the 696 and so I'm putting my 496 up for sale. If anyone is looking for one, I figured I'd check with the list before putting it up on ebay. Unit is in excellent condition with all original accessories and box plus one extra battery. I'm located in SoCal and anyone local is welcome to come take a look first. If anyone is interested feel free to make me an offer off list: poneill@irealms.com. Patrick #40715 get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:51 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Voyager Flight Planning Software I used Golden Eagle Flight Prep for a long long time before switching to Voyager. You're right, it is excellent. No issue there. It does you less computer resources too. I don't think I can say anymore that it "gives you more", because there are so many things that Voyager does that G.E. doesn't, but Golden Eagle is certainly great software. I had G.E. + Chart Case Express and one of the disappointments if you go to a full in-flight + preflight system is that those 2 functions were very separate. If you are looking at their products for both purposes, you may want to go with one of the higher ones that combines the functions. With Voyager that's what I did, bought the EFB level so it was all integrated. Voyager beats flightprep and their related stuff hands down though for number of feature. Also, Chris is right, on numerous occasions I've written Seattle Avionics an email about something I wanted to learn, or report something when I was beta testing 4.0, and it was surprising that you really got attention and response right away. Chris, I'd love to hear what you use on your iPhone, too. Scott has such a great time with his iPhone that I got myself an ipod Touch + EVDO data service on my cell + a Cradlepoint PHS300 wireless hotspot. Now, although cheaper and more widely-useful for other people and devices, I have WiFi almost anywhere if I need it, and I find myself using my iPod for more and more things while on a flying trip. Awesome stuff. Would be cool if Voyager decided to do some integrated flight planning for the iphone. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Kelly McMullen wrote: > > For free flight planning software, IMHO, Golden Eagle Flight Prep SE > gives you more and uses less computer resources. Haven't compared the > pay services, because that would invalidate my CSOB status. ;-) > > Chris Johnston wrote: >> >> Hey all - >> >> Just thought I'd give a bit of a pirep here. I know it's been >> discussed before, but the Voyager flight planning software from >> Seattle Avionics is WAAAY COOL. I downloaded the "Freeflight" version >> and activated the trial of the more comprehensive features, and I'm >> sold. > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:17 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cowl fitting question - when Definitely cowl first. Then when it all fits, you can remove and reinstall the cowl dozens of times as you trim the baffling lower and lower into position, and know that it will all fit with the proper clearance. Without the cowl fit, you may not get the baffling trimmed to the right position. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive AirMike wrote: > > As you can see from the prior post - I have installed my engine on the airframe. Should I fit the cowl (upper & lower) now or is it best to do the baffling first for a better fit? > > Or does the baffling get in the way of the cowl fitting job? > > -------- > OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 > Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:57 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software From: "Lenny Iszak" Awesome, now we can all leech off your wifi at oshkosh :) I use ForeFlight on my iPhone and it's really nice. Now the phone downloads the full airport database so you can pull up the info even when not connected to the net (in flight). Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225976#225976 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:18 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software From: "Chris Johnston" yup. Foreflight is the best app for the Iphone that I've found so far. it's a one-time cost of about $75 for the app, no subscription fees or anything. It does weather, AF/D, and tons of other stuff. www.foreflight.com I use it constantly. There are some cheaper apps that work ok too, but this one is the slickest and most useful. cj -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Lenny Iszak Sent: Wed 1/21/2009 5:23 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software Awesome, now we can all leech off your wifi at oshkosh :) I use ForeFlight on my iPhone and it's really nice. Now the phone downloads the full airport database so you can pull up the info even when not connected to the net (in flight). Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225976#225976 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:27 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software Man, what a sucker I am for a good geek toy. Because of your two comments Chris and Lenny, I'm now $75 poorer. ;) I trust you guys and so took the plunge. I'll have to do a write-up someday once I get familiar. I just looooovve geek toys. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Chris Johnston wrote: > yup. Foreflight is the best app for the Iphone that I've found so > far. it's a one-time cost of about $75 for the app, no subscription > fees or anything. It does weather, AF/D, and tons of other stuff. > > www.foreflight.com > > I use it constantly. There are some cheaper apps that work ok too, > but this one is the slickest and most useful. > > cj > > > -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > on behalf of Lenny Iszak Sent: Wed 1/21/2009 5:23 AM To: > rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight > Planning Software > > > > Awesome, now we can all leech off your wifi at oshkosh :) > > I use ForeFlight on my iPhone and it's really nice. Now the phone > downloads the full airport database so you can pull up the info even > when not connected to the net (in flight). > > > Lenny #40803 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225976#225976 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software From: Eric Ekberg Tim, You have no cause for gripe on this one! Because of you I am about $1500 and counting poorer for a motion tablet, voyager software, and bluetooth gps receiver. -Eric do not archive On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Man, what a sucker I am for a good geek toy. Because of your > two comments Chris and Lenny, I'm now $75 poorer. ;) > I trust you guys and so took the plunge. I'll have to do > a write-up someday once I get familiar. I just looooovve geek > toys. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Chris Johnston wrote: > >> yup. Foreflight is the best app for the Iphone that I've found so >> far. it's a one-time cost of about $75 for the app, no subscription >> fees or anything. It does weather, AF/D, and tons of other stuff. >> >> www.foreflight.com >> >> I use it constantly. There are some cheaper apps that work ok too, >> but this one is the slickest and most useful. >> >> cj >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> on behalf of Lenny Iszak Sent: Wed 1/21/2009 5:23 AM To: >> rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight >> Planning Software >> >> >> >> Awesome, now we can all leech off your wifi at oshkosh :) >> >> I use ForeFlight on my iPhone and it's really nice. Now the phone >> downloads the full airport database so you can pull up the info even >> when not connected to the net (in flight). >> >> >> Lenny #40803 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225976#225976 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:19 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Tim, Make sure you include the details of how to duct tape a CF card to your phone... :) Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software Man, what a sucker I am for a good geek toy. Because of your two comments Chris and Lenny, I'm now $75 poorer. ;) I trust you guys and so took the plunge. I'll have to do a write-up someday once I get familiar. I just looooovve geek toys. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Chris Johnston wrote: > yup. Foreflight is the best app for the Iphone that I've found so > far. it's a one-time cost of about $75 for the app, no subscription > fees or anything. It does weather, AF/D, and tons of other stuff. > > www.foreflight.com > > I use it constantly. There are some cheaper apps that work ok too, > but this one is the slickest and most useful. > > cj > > > -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > on behalf of Lenny Iszak Sent: Wed 1/21/2009 5:23 AM To: > rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight > Planning Software > > > > Awesome, now we can all leech off your wifi at oshkosh :) > > I use ForeFlight on my iPhone and it's really nice. Now the phone > downloads the full airport database so you can pull up the info even > when not connected to the net (in flight). > > > Lenny #40803 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225976#225976 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:21 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight Planning Software HA!!!!!!!!! You guys are hillarious! :) I think you'll like the tablet. It sure beats buying and swapping all the paper charts you would want. If someone had tons of funds, I'd buy the fastest hardware I could get, but it works ok for what it does. I'm still laughing at Bob's post too about the CF card. It works pretty good in the tablet. I'm just glad I got a 32GB iPod Touch, because it was half full (or is that half empty?) before I got ForeFlight. Can't wait to see how it works though. On a more serious note, one thing about Voyager, as with any radio/gps or other technical item, you will be more and more pleased with it the more you actually use it. Most complex user-interface items get frustrating as you first learn them, until you find either A) the proper way to use them, or B) the way that works best for your needs. I say this because things like pulling up approaches, getting airport info, and things like that can be done multiple ways on that software, and some are easier than others. So, just as with flying the plane, invest the proper time into "education" and you'll be much happier. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Eric Ekberg wrote: > Tim, > > You have no cause for gripe on this one! Because of you I am about > $1500 and counting poorer for a motion tablet, voyager software, and > bluetooth gps receiver. > -Eric > do not archive > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Tim Olson > wrote: > > > > > Man, what a sucker I am for a good geek toy. Because of your > two comments Chris and Lenny, I'm now $75 poorer. ;) > I trust you guys and so took the plunge. I'll have to do > a write-up someday once I get familiar. I just looooovve geek > toys. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > > Chris Johnston wrote: > > yup. Foreflight is the best app for the Iphone that I've found so > far. it's a one-time cost of about $75 for the app, no subscription > fees or anything. It does weather, AF/D, and tons of other stuff. > > www.foreflight.com > > I use it constantly. There are some cheaper apps that work ok too, > but this one is the slickest and most useful. > > cj > > > -----Original Message----- From: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > on behalf of Lenny Iszak Sent: Wed 1/21/2009 5:23 AM To: > rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Voyager Flight > Planning Software > > > > > Awesome, now we can all leech off your wifi at oshkosh :) > > I use ForeFlight on my iPhone and it's really nice. Now the phone > downloads the full airport database so you can pull up the info even > when not connected to the net (in flight). > > > Lenny #40803 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225976#225976 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:20:26 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Engine For Sale From: "George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 605 TES/DOA" Listers - For Sale: Continental IO-470G (260-Hp, originally on a C-310). Baker, FL (18FD). My hangar-mates have scrapped a Barracuda (all-wood, two-seat, go-fast plans-built). The builder had it ready to fly, fell ill and died. It sat for several years, and recent inspections of the airframe raised concerns about preparing it for return to service. At the very least, the engine needs an IRAN - we consider it a core. Make Offer. Neal George Cell - 850-218-4838 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:02:07 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up Last night I installed the new Matco axle in my RV-10. It looks like it should work out way better than the original. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090120 From my perspective, things started off truly unsafe and miserable. This is now basically my 4th "try" at making things perfect. #1. Stainless spacers - trashing my fork #2. Large washers protecting fork, Stainless spacers rotation locked.....much better from a wear perspective. #3. Use Van's new parts provided after SB was put out. This was a better situation than the original by FAR. But, it is also far from ideal, and is pretty crappy from a bearing preload perspective, and they STILL didn't provide anti-spin for the spacers. #3. Matco's replacement axle. It's far nicer, and basically fixes all of the issues that the original one has. I would encourage all of you RV-10 builders to at absolute minimum, do some sort of mod to make Van's spacers anti-spin. You will still have to do far more checking of nosewheel bolt torque if you want to prevent issues over time, but that in itself would be a step up. But really, for the low cost of this axle, I think it should just be one of those things that everyone does....just like the axle extensions on the main gear. Don't wreck something or live with a poor standard design. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:48 PM PST US From: "pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up Hmm.. does this mean the Matco backlog is now shipping? Great write-up once again Tim. Thanks for taking time to write it all up and give your perspective. P -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up > > Last night I installed the new Matco axle in my RV-10. It > looks like it should work out way better than the original. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090120 > > From my perspective, things started off truly unsafe and > miserable. This is now basically my 4th "try" at making > things perfect. > > #1. Stainless spacers - trashing my fork > #2. Large washers protecting fork, Stainless spacers rotation > locked.....much better from a wear perspective. > #3. Use Van's new parts provided after SB was put out. > This was a better situation than the original by FAR. > But, it is also far from ideal, and is pretty crappy > from a bearing preload perspective, and they STILL > didn't provide anti-spin for the spacers. > #3. Matco's replacement axle. It's far nicer, and basically > fixes all of the issues that the original one has. > > I would encourage all of you RV-10 builders to at absolute > minimum, do some sort of mod to make Van's spacers anti-spin. > You will still have to do far more checking of nosewheel > bolt torque if you want to prevent issues over time, but that > in itself would be a step up. But really, for the low cost of > this axle, I think it should just be one of those things that > everyone does....just like the axle extensions on the main gear. > Don't wreck something or live with a poor standard design. > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:51 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up I'm not sure if the backlog is shipping. I ordered the weekend before it was known by most people that they were even available, and my order was one of the first in. I think they ran out right away shortly after. I did just get a little feedback from George at Matco tonight, who I sent the link for the write-up to. He says the following: ------------------------ "The installation drawings are also linked on our website on the WHLAXLE24 product page. Did you balance your tire? It made a huge difference for Scott and is easy to do with the center hole in the axle. The wheel for the 5.00-5 tube is the WHLNW511.25. It is machined differently to accommodate the longer stem on the 5.00-5 tube. We offer an inexpensive exchange (under $20) for those who have not yet mated the tire. We can replace one half of the wheel if the tire has already been mounted for about $60. The wheel needs to be sent here to have it done. ------------------------ There you go, more info to consider, if you're building. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive pascal wrote: > > Hmm.. does this mean the Matco backlog is now shipping? > > Great write-up once again Tim. Thanks for taking time to write it all up > and give your perspective. > P > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Tim Olson" > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:00 PM > To: > Subject: RV10-List: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up > >> >> Last night I installed the new Matco axle in my RV-10. It >> looks like it should work out way better than the original. >> >> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090120 >> >> From my perspective, things started off truly unsafe and >> miserable. This is now basically my 4th "try" at making >> things perfect. >> >> #1. Stainless spacers - trashing my fork >> #2. Large washers protecting fork, Stainless spacers rotation >> locked.....much better from a wear perspective. >> #3. Use Van's new parts provided after SB was put out. >> This was a better situation than the original by FAR. >> But, it is also far from ideal, and is pretty crappy >> from a bearing preload perspective, and they STILL >> didn't provide anti-spin for the spacers. >> #3. Matco's replacement axle. It's far nicer, and basically >> fixes all of the issues that the original one has. >> >> I would encourage all of you RV-10 builders to at absolute >> minimum, do some sort of mod to make Van's spacers anti-spin. >> You will still have to do far more checking of nosewheel >> bolt torque if you want to prevent issues over time, but that >> in itself would be a step up. But really, for the low cost of >> this axle, I think it should just be one of those things that >> everyone does....just like the axle extensions on the main gear. >> Don't wreck something or live with a poor standard design. >> >> -- >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.