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1. 03:25 AM - Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos (Bob Leffler)
2. 05:47 AM - Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos (Jesse Saint)
3. 07:43 AM - Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos (johngoodman)
4. 07:53 AM - AOPA online article on a few reasons why glider flying is a great tool (John Gonzalez)
5. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos (David McNeill)
6. 09:18 AM - Tips and question (David McNeill)
7. 09:33 AM - Re: Tips and question (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
8. 10:02 AM - Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos (Ralph E. Capen)
9. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos (Ben Westfall)
10. 02:37 PM - Bleeding the brakes (McGANN, Ron)
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| Subject: | Wing Auto Pilot Servos |
And mount the servo bracket before the leading edge is attached to the spar.
It will make your life easier.
While I had the servo in hand, I didn't think of reading the installation
directions since I had the bottom skins left to install. While it's not
impossible to get the two mounting bolts and nuts in place with the leading
edge riveted to the spar, those with short arms will have difficulties.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ricksked@embarqmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing Auto Pilot Servos
Just leave enough conduit to run the five wire...Its easy to do especially
if you ran the wire. Honestly just order the Trutrak servo ind install it
now..you need to replace a bellcrank bracket...its. 800 dollar investment
you will do anyhow
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From: Andrew Johnson
Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Rv
Sent: Jan 22, 2009 8:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Wing Auto Pilot Servos
I'm going to be ready to close up my wings in another month or so, and I
recognize that I should have everything I ever want in there before I put
the bottom skins on. I've not really given any thought to an autopilot, but
in order to be smart for an option down the road, would it be prudent to
mount a servo in the wing to set me up for a possible future autopilot
install? If so, what kind of servo is recommended?
Another option is to go ahead and close the wing, and hope there's an
autopilot system that doesn't require mounting servos in the wing.
Thoughts.
Andy Johnson
Poquoson, VA
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos |
Am I missing something? All of the bolts that hold the aileron
bellcrank brackets to the spar are held by nutplates which are
installed along with the tiedown bracket on page 13-5. This way you
can pull the lower bellcrank bracket supplied by Van's with the one
that holds the A/P servo after the wing is closed up. I'm sure I am
missing something obvious about what bolts and nuts you are referring
to.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jan 23, 2009, at 6:29 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> And mount the servo bracket before the leading edge is attached to
> the spar.
> It will make your life easier.
>
> While I had the servo in hand, I didn't think of reading the
> installation
> directions since I had the bottom skins left to install. While
> it's not
> impossible to get the two mounting bolts and nuts in place with the
> leading
> edge riveted to the spar, those with short arms will have
> difficulties.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> ricksked@embarqmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:27 PM
> To: Rv
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing Auto Pilot Servos
>
>
> Just leave enough conduit to run the five wire...Its easy to do
> especially
> if you ran the wire. Honestly just order the Trutrak servo ind
> install it
> now..you need to replace a bellcrank bracket...its. 800 dollar
> investment
> you will do anyhow
> ------Original Message------
> From: Andrew Johnson
> Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> To: Rv
> ReplyTo: Rv
> Sent: Jan 22, 2009 8:08 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Wing Auto Pilot Servos
>
> >
>
> I'm going to be ready to close up my wings in another month or so,
> and I
> recognize that I should have everything I ever want in there before
> I put
> the bottom skins on. I've not really given any thought to an
> autopilot, but
>
> in order to be smart for an option down the road, would it be
> prudent to
> mount a servo in the wing to set me up for a possible future autopilot
> install? If so, what kind of servo is recommended?
>
> Another option is to go ahead and close the wing, and hope there's an
> autopilot system that doesn't require mounting servos in the wing.
>
> Thoughts.
>
> Andy Johnson
> Poquoson, VA
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos |
Andy,
Picking an autopilot is sort of like politics, or primer wars. Everybody has a
strong opinion. There are three good brands for us out there, that I know of -
Dynon, Trio, and Tru Trak. They all use a bracket mount at the aileron bell crank
so you know you are going to have to put something there. Pick a brand and
do it now. Here are three web pages to start on:
http://www.trioavionics.com/ProPilot.htm
http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/instruments.htm
http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/Autopilot_intro.html
PS: be prepared for a little sticker shock....
noconwud(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> I'm going to be ready to close up my wings in another month or so, and I
> recognize that I should have everything I ever want in there before I put
> the bottom skins on. I've not really given any thought to an autopilot, but
> in order to be smart for an option down the road, would it be prudent to
> mount a servo in the wing to set me up for a possible future autopilot
> install? If so, what kind of servo is recommended?
>
> Another option is to go ahead and close the wing, and hope there's an
> autopilot system that doesn't require mounting servos in the wing.
>
> Thoughts.
>
> Andy Johnson
> Poquoson, VA
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| Subject: | AOPA online article on a few reasons why glider flying is a |
great tool
I won't even mentions the other reasons why the sport is awesome=2C but AOP
A online has an important article on why getting more training than just an
add on glider rating would be a valuable tool for any power pilot.Read it
here:http://www.aopa.org/training/articles/2009/090122gliders.html?WT.mc_id
=090123epilot&WT.mc_sect=gan John G.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos |
You can buy the servo and wait on the remainder.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:42 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos
--> <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
Andy,
Picking an autopilot is sort of like politics, or primer wars. Everybody has
a strong opinion. There are three good brands for us out there, that I know
of - Dynon, Trio, and Tru Trak. They all use a bracket mount at the aileron
bell crank so you know you are going to have to put something there. Pick a
brand and do it now. Here are three web pages to start on:
http://www.trioavionics.com/ProPilot.htm
http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/instruments.htm
http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/Autopilot_intro.html
PS: be prepared for a little sticker shock....
noconwud(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> I'm going to be ready to close up my wings in another month or so, and
> I recognize that I should have everything I ever want in there before
> I put the bottom skins on. I've not really given any thought to an
> autopilot, but in order to be smart for an option down the road, would
> it be prudent to mount a servo in the wing to set me up for a possible
> future autopilot install? If so, what kind of servo is recommended?
>
> Another option is to go ahead and close the wing, and hope there's an
> autopilot system that doesn't require mounting servos in the wing.
>
> Thoughts.
>
> Andy Johnson
> Poquoson, VA
--------
#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
N711JG reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226358#226358
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| Subject: | Tips and question |
Grizzly Tools has a couple of items that should find their way into any tool
box. They are selling straight and curved forceps which allow inserting
washer and small nuts into very tight places. about $3 per pair.
Question: I will be doing my first annual on the 10 in March; for those who
have been there what action did you take on the fuel filter. If replacing it
did you flush tanks thoroughly before first use? Did you remove any tank
debris via the fuel sumps prior to testing?
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| Subject: | Re: Tips and question |
And getting that last puff from your cigarette!!!
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From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Tips and question
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos |
I would suggest that you make sure you can work on it after it is all closed in.......
I made sure that mne would go in and out the access panels before I riveted the
skin on....
-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Johnson <noconwud@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Jan 22, 2009 11:08 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Wing Auto Pilot Servos
>
>
>I'm going to be ready to close up my wings in another month or so, and I
>recognize that I should have everything I ever want in there before I put
>the bottom skins on. I've not really given any thought to an autopilot, but
>in order to be smart for an option down the road, would it be prudent to
>mount a servo in the wing to set me up for a possible future autopilot
>install? If so, what kind of servo is recommended?
>
>Another option is to go ahead and close the wing, and hope there's an
>autopilot system that doesn't require mounting servos in the wing.
>
>Thoughts.
>
>Andy Johnson
>Poquoson, VA
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos |
Just to throw another one into the mix if you are going with AFS EFIS's they
are OEM'ing a TruTrak VSVG variant soon. AFS will sell you the servos today
if you call. Their price is better than TruTrak retail but a bit more than
buying from Van's.
I don't know any specifics on the autopilot but a forum thread on AFS's site
talks about custom programming to communicate with the AFS EFIS displays.
-Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 7:42 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wing Auto Pilot Servos
Andy,
Picking an autopilot is sort of like politics, or primer wars. Everybody has
a strong opinion. There are three good brands for us out there, that I know
of - Dynon, Trio, and Tru Trak. They all use a bracket mount at the aileron
bell crank so you know you are going to have to put something there. Pick a
brand and do it now. Here are three web pages to start on:
http://www.trioavionics.com/ProPilot.htm
http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/instruments.htm
http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/Autopilot_intro.html
PS: be prepared for a little sticker shock....
noconwud(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> I'm going to be ready to close up my wings in another month or so, and I
> recognize that I should have everything I ever want in there before I put
> the bottom skins on. I've not really given any thought to an autopilot,
but
> in order to be smart for an option down the road, would it be prudent to
> mount a servo in the wing to set me up for a possible future autopilot
> install? If so, what kind of servo is recommended?
>
> Another option is to go ahead and close the wing, and hope there's an
> autopilot system that doesn't require mounting servos in the wing.
>
> Thoughts.
>
> Andy Johnson
> Poquoson, VA
--------
#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit started.
N711JG reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226358#226358
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| Subject: | Bleeding the brakes |
G'day all,
Did some research on bleeding the brakes. Shops were closed, could not fin
d a good old fashion oilcan to prime the brake lines so decided on somethin
g different.
Removed the reservoir cap. Inserted one end of some 1/8" id plastic tubing
into the can of brake fluid and raised the can to a height greater than th
e reservoir. Sucked a little fluid into the tube and connected the tube to
the bleed nipple. Left the setup for a couple of hours, occasionally tapp
ing the brakes to release the air bubbles. The pressure head from the rais
ed can was sufficient to fill the lines and cylinders, but is pretty slow.
Used a dip stick to check the reservoir was filling and went on to the oth
er side before the reservoir was full.
YMMV, but you can't get a simpler setup. I don't think there is any reason
why you can't use the technique overnight and actually do both sides at on
ce. A plastic NPT/barbed fitting used for the pitot/static system screws i
nto the reservoir and it is easy to connect an overflow tube from the reser
voir to an overflow tin, and let nature take its course.
Just a tip - worked great for me with no added tools and zero mess.
cheers
Ron
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