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1. 04:48 AM - Re: Door strut (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 05:03 AM - Re: Door strut (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 07:06 AM - Glad to be hangered! (jim@CombsFive.Com)
4. 08:41 AM - Mistake on the Aft Deck: Fixed (Perry, Phil)
5. 10:23 AM - Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens (jayb)
6. 11:24 AM - Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens (linn Walters)
7. 11:41 AM - MT propeller and cowling work (John Gonzalez)
8. 11:41 AM - Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
9. 12:52 PM - Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens (George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 605 TES/DOA)
10. 12:52 PM - heads up (David McNeill)
11. 12:53 PM - Mistake on the Aft Deck: Fixed (Perry, Phil)
12. 01:29 PM - Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens (Tim Olson)
13. 01:39 PM - Re: 406 MHZ ELT (Steven Roberts)
14. 01:41 PM - Re: MT propeller and cowling work (Dave Lammers)
15. 02:13 PM - Re: Glad to be hangered! (McGANN, Ron)
16. 04:22 PM - Re: 406 MHZ ELT (Jim Berry)
17. 04:33 PM - Re: Door strut (David Maib)
18. 04:34 PM - Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens (Ben Westfall)
19. 05:08 PM - Re: 'do not tow' (dmaib@mac.com)
20. 05:31 PM - Re: Glad to be hangered! (SteinAir, Inc.)
21. 05:54 PM - Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens (John Hilger)
22. 06:51 PM - Re: Glad to be hangered! (Bob Kaufmann)
23. 08:02 PM - Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens (Robin Marks)
24. 08:37 PM - Re: Glad to be hangered! (Kelly McMullen)
25. 11:12 PM - Re: Glad to be hangered! (Robin Marks)
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Hi Tim,
I'm at almost 240 hours now so hopefully it will stay tight a little
longer.
Wayne edgerton N602WT
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Time: 09:50:18 AM PST US
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: Door strut
Glad it worked out for you Wayne. I will tell you that the
nosewheel tension will probably be something that you'll have
to do about 3-4 times within the first 250 hours, and then
after that it will start to become more stable. I'm sure
it's just those parts wearing in together a little.
I'd check it maybe at 50, 100, 175, 250 or so, and then
annually after that. I too have noticed that the nosewheel
can affect rudder trim. It moves some when you use the rudder
hard. If you kick one pedal good and then look at the
ball, and then kick the other pedal good and then look at
the ball, you will see it sometimes keeps the ball one way or
the other slightly. I try to tap them back and forth a couple
times lighter and get it to be as centered as possible, and
then trim out the rest with rudder trim. I attribute the
stickyness to the 20+ lbs of breakout force required to
get the nosewheel to move to make it swing. The
propwash circle of moving air pushing against the tail
of the nose fairing may also be part of why most builders
see a little bit of out-of-trim rudder even if they build
it straight. A minor annoyance, in any case.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Bob,
Ron told me the number but I forgot what it was. I do remember it was
about 25% stronger than the Van's strut.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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Subject: | Glad to be hangered! |
We had some serious Ice and snow over the last few days. I got out
to the airport and was really glad I was in a hanger!
All
aircraft had become tail draggers! Hope none are damaged!
Jim Combs
N312F - Flying
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Subject: | Mistake on the Aft Deck: Fixed |
Hi Everyone,
I've had a couple of people ask how I repaired the boo-boo on the aft
deck.
Last night I finally got around to repairing it and thought I'd share
with the group. Maybe you'll have an opportunity to do something
similar during your build. :)
It sounds like a lot of work and definitely is not the simplest fix, but
I have absolutely no concerns about the long term integrity of the
repair.
I can't claim credit for solution. David McNeill put me in touch with
an A&P IA who sketched out the design and sent it to me Thanks David!
Phil
This is the original damage... You can see the longeron below and it's
fine, but the aft deck skin was pretty messed up. The damage extended
beyond an AD5 rivet and it's possible that an AN3 bolt probably wouldn't
have fully removed it.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3528
.jpg
I was only 7 rivets into installing the aft deck when my screw up
happened, so I went ahead and removed the entire deck. It made working
on the pieces make easier.
Once it was off the airplane, I removed the damaged area with a uni-bit
and deburred the hole. It required a 5/16" hole to remove the damaged
area.
Next up was to create a 5/16" plug for the hole. The plug was made from
.040 scrap and matches the same .040 thickness of the deck. My buddy is
an A&P and he stopped by take part in the process. He did a great job
of building a round plug that fits the hole perfectly!
The first photo shows the plug and the sitting beside the hole. The
second photo shows the plug sitting inside the hole.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3531
.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3532
.jpg
Next up was to re-create the rivet hole. We did this with a 90 degree
drill and came up through the bottom of the longeron. To keep the plug
from spinning, we taped it down with duct tape and applied pressure with
a wooden block from the top. It worked pretty well. We were able to
get 80% of the way through the plug before the tape gave and the plug
started to spin. However the hole was started deep enough that we could
finish drilling it out on the workbench. Looks pretty good!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3534
.jpg
Finally, we created a doubler out of .040 scrap (same thickness/strength
as the deck skin). The doubler has 5 rivets. Obviously it's centered
on the plug and we picked up the adjacent longeron rivets. Then we
attached the doubler to the deck skin inboard of the longerons.
We thought about adding two additional rivets by splitting the distance
between the plug and the adjacent longeron rivets, but after looking at
it closer we opted out of that decision. There isn't much clearance for
rivet pitch (spacing) by splitting those holes. Sure we could have done
it and it would have been fine by the book, but we would have been
sitting a minimums. When we weighed that reality with the reality
weakening the longeron by drilling additional holes - we decided it was
better to leave well enough alone.
On the inboard deck rivets, we chose to split them between the plug and
the adjacent longeron rivets. This was by design to share the shear
load between the plug rivet and it's adjacent longeron rivets.
Here is the finished product.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3535
.jpg
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Subject: | Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens |
I ran across these the other day. The mesh screen covers would be a bit more attractive
than some other alternatives I've seen discussed in the past.
http://www.directron.com/smf80.html
Regards,
Jay
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Subject: | Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens |
Those are neat looking. My solution is to get window screen (used to be
able to get aluminum, but now all I find is fiberglass) and spray a wet
coat of paint on it to match and protect the screen from UV.
Linn
jayb wrote:
>
> I ran across these the other day. The mesh screen covers would be a bit more
attractive than some other alternatives I've seen discussed in the past.
>
> http://www.directron.com/smf80.html
>
> Regards,
> Jay
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227521#227521
>
>
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Subject: | MT propeller and cowling work |
I have been told to not use the propeller and the spinner to do my cowl fii
tting as it will most likely damage the finish of the spinner.
Can anyone direct me to a source for how to make a plywood template and dir
ection on how it comes together. I was told that this document exists=2C bu
t I don't know it's source.
Thanks=2C
JOhn G. 409
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Subject: | Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens |
Regardless of which direction you go, it turns out that the location
where the fans are (at least in my install) aren't really that visible
in the first place. Now, if you had chrome grills or something like
that where they stood out it would certainly make a difference. I've
got the grill area painted flat black and the covering I used on the
glare shield is also flat black, fake leather. Unless you're looking
for the fans, you really don't notice that they're there.
Here's what I'm using for the glareshield cover and edging:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GSF15
I've also heard that Abby also now makes glare shield covers and will
put custom cutouts in for defrost fans.
Bob
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens
I ran across these the other day. The mesh screen covers would be a bit
more attractive than some other alternatives I've seen discussed in the
past.
http://www.directron.com/smf80.html
Regards,
Jay
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227521#227521
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Subject: | Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens |
Lynn -
Check your local Ace Hardware.
The one here in Navarre, FL keeps a roll of brass screen on the shelf.
Not cheap, but it doesn't take much and it won't rust...
Neal
=============
Those are neat looking. My solution is to get window screen (used to be
able to get aluminum, but now all I find is fiberglass) and spray a wet
coat of paint on it to match and protect the screen from UV.
Linn
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When carrying four adults, be aware that one front seater should remain
seated while back seaters deplane. While I stood on the wing this morning,
the right seat passenger decided to deplane and stepped on the rear dismount
while the rear passengers remain seated. The aircraft tilted to the rear and
struck the bottom rudder fairing. Fortunately the damage seems limited to
the bottom rudder fairing which will be replaced. Unfortunately I have not
added the additional firewall avionics battery which probably would have
eliminated this incident..
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Subject: | Mistake on the Aft Deck: Fixed |
Hi Everyone,
I've had a couple of people ask how I repaired the boo-boo on the aft
deck.
Last night I finally got around to repairing it and thought I'd share
with the group. Maybe you'll have an opportunity to do something
similar during your build. :)
It sounds like a lot of work and definitely is not the simplest fix, but
I have absolutely no concerns about the long term integrity of the
repair.
I can't claim credit for solution. David McNeill put me in touch with
an A&P IA who sketched out the design and sent it to me Thanks David!
Phil
This is the original damage... You can see the longeron below and it's
fine, but the aft deck skin was pretty messed up. The damage extended
beyond an AD5 rivet and it's possible that an AN3 bolt probably wouldn't
have fully removed it.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3528
.jpg
I was only 7 rivets into installing the aft deck when my screw up
happened, so I went ahead and removed the entire deck. It made working
on the pieces make easier.
Once it was off the airplane, I removed the damaged area with a uni-bit
and deburred the hole. It required a 5/16" hole to remove the damaged
area.
Next up was to create a 5/16" plug for the hole. The plug was made from
.040 scrap and matches the same .040 thickness of the deck. My buddy is
an A&P and he stopped by take part in the process. He did a great job
of building a round plug that fits the hole perfectly!
The first photo shows the plug and the sitting beside the hole. The
second photo shows the plug sitting inside the hole.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3531
.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3532
.jpg
Next up was to re-create the rivet hole. We did this with a 90 degree
drill and came up through the bottom of the longeron. To keep the plug
from spinning, we taped it down with duct tape and applied pressure with
a wooden block from the top. It worked pretty well. We were able to
get 80% of the way through the plug before the tape gave and the plug
started to spin. However the hole was started deep enough that we could
finish drilling it out on the workbench. Looks pretty good!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3534
.jpg
Finally, we created a doubler out of .040 scrap (same thickness/strength
as the deck skin). The doubler has 5 rivets. Obviously it's centered
on the plug and we picked up the adjacent longeron rivets. Then we
attached the doubler to the deck skin inboard of the longerons.
We thought about adding two additional rivets by splitting the distance
between the plug and the adjacent longeron rivets, but after looking at
it closer we opted out of that decision. There isn't much clearance for
rivet pitch (spacing) by splitting those holes. Sure we could have done
it and it would have been fine by the book, but we would have been
sitting a minimums. When we weighed that reality with the reality
weakening the longeron by drilling additional holes - we decided it was
better to leave well enough alone.
On the inboard deck rivets, we chose to split them between the plug and
the adjacent longeron rivets. This was by design to share the shear
load between the plug rivet and it's adjacent longeron rivets.
Here is the finished product.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/philperry9/RV-10%20Build/DSC_3535
.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens |
For the little bit of money, that's not bad. They'd look, good.
I didn't find screens like that at the time, so I did what Linn
talks about and cut aluminum screen and painted it black.
I did find that it was important to paint everything black up there.
Even the sticker from the fan, and any screws. The reflections
otherwise were as annoying as heck.
Also, it's definitely good to add screens EVEN IF you have a
wire grill, like I have. On mine, the wire grill protects
the screen and fan, but if you don't have screen, you risk
not only dropping something into the fan, but dropping
something into your space behind the panel. No sense loosing
screws and items in there, esp. if they can short something
out.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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jayb wrote:
>
> I ran across these the other day. The mesh screen covers would be a
> bit more attractive than some other alternatives I've seen discussed
> in the past.
>
> http://www.directron.com/smf80.html
>
> Regards, Jay
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227521#227521
>
>
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One consideration prior to replacing your old ELT or installing a 406 MHz
unit in your new aircraft:
FAR 91.207 (d) (4) requires annual inspection for the presence of sufficient
signal radiated from the ELT antenna. This is not a big deal for the old
121.5 ELT's and only requires an aviation receiver. It is a big deal for
the 406 MHz units as the test devices are almost $3K. Not every shop has
one and the DIYers in the experimental arena probably don't have one yet.
Might be a good purchase for the local EAA chapter. Also, in most cases the
unit will have to be removed from the aircraft for testing, and enclosed in
a Faraday shield to prevent a false data burst. The aircraft antenna would
then be tested separately. I have heard the FCC aggressively prosecutes
violators, and after registration they will know who you are and where you
live.
The double and triple ELT units that transmit on 121.5 MHZ, 406 MHz and 243
MHZ (military) frequencies simultaneously will satisfy the ELT requirement
as you can still DIY test the 121.5 MHz signal. The 406 MHz burst
theoretically occurs 50 seconds after the unit is triggered, so hopefully
you could get the unit deactivated before that occurs.
How this will be addressed in the future is unknown, and is one of the
reasons the 121.5 MHz units are still permitted. Until the dust settles on
this issue, I am keeping my old ELT for the FAR requirement, and purchased
the ACR ResqFix PLB with on-board GPS. Thanks Tim for recommending this
unit, $520 at Puget Sound Inflatables.
Steve Roberts
(still lurking while waiting for a suitable build location)
N2700W 1966 Mooney M20E 'Ms. Obsession' KMOR Morristown, TN
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Subject: | Re: MT propeller and cowling work |
John,
I found it on the Van's web site. (Hunt around a bit) Applicable to all
models.
Easy to make and quite useful.
Regards,
Dave Lammers
forever finishing
John Gonzalez wrote:
> I have been told to not use the propeller and the spinner to do my
> cowl fiitting as it will most likely damage the finish of the spinner.
>
> Can anyone direct me to a source for how to make a plywood template
> and direction on how it comes together. I was told that this document
> exists, but I don't know it's source.
>
> Thanks,
>
> JOhn G. 409
>
>
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Subject: | Glad to be hangered! |
Want to send some cool weather our way?? 125 degs in my hangar and on
the apron at the moment. Wanna know how frustrating that is when you
are trying to do a first engine start????
cheers,
Ron
-187, waiting for the temperature to COOOOL!!
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Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 1:19 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
We had some serious Ice and snow over the last few days. I got
out to the airport and was really glad I was in a hanger!
All aircraft had become tail draggers! Hope none are damaged!
Jim Combs
N312F - Flying
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Steve,
I recently discovered an easy way to do the signal radiation test. Several weeks
ago I installed my Artex ME406 elt. About 9 PM that night I answered a knock
on the door and was greeted by a very pleasant man from the Civil Air Patrol,
holding his direction finder. I had inadvertently triggered my elt during installation
and he had picked up the signal 10 miles away, ground to ground.
This method is probably not FAA approved, but it is effective.
Jim Berry
40482
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I checked mine at the end of the 40 hour phase one and it was very
loose. I will check again in another 25 hours or so.
David Maib
40559 flying
On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Glad it worked out for you Wayne. I will tell you that the
> nosewheel tension will probably be something that you'll have
> to do about 3-4 times within the first 250 hours, and then
> after that it will start to become more stable. I'm sure
> it's just those parts wearing in together a little.
> I'd check it maybe at 50, 100, 175, 250 or so, and then
> annually after that. I too have noticed that the nosewheel
> can affect rudder trim. It moves some when you use the rudder
> hard. If you kick one pedal good and then look at the
> ball, and then kick the other pedal good and then look at
> the ball, you will see it sometimes keeps the ball one way or
> the other slightly. I try to tap them back and forth a couple
> times lighter and get it to be as centered as possible, and
> then trim out the rest with rudder trim. I attribute the
> stickyness to the 20+ lbs of breakout force required to
> get the nosewheel to move to make it swing. The
> propwash circle of moving air pushing against the tail
> of the nose fairing may also be part of why most builders
> see a little bit of out-of-trim rudder even if they build
> it straight. A minor annoyance, in any case.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Wayne Edgerton wrote:
>> I have been having troubles, over time, with the door struts
>> supplied by Van's becoming loose and allowing the door to fall and
>> possible hit me or a passenger in the head, if we're not careful.
>> I've talked to several people about this and they're having the
>> same problem.
>> A friend of mine who's on the same field as me, Ron Grover who
>> also has a 10, ordered some stronger struts and that seems to have
>> solved his problem. I just ordered a pair for me this morning and
>> thought I would pass along the source for these in case any of you
>> are having the same problem. Both Ron and I have full interiors
>> with the doors being finished with arm rests, so that makes them a
>> little heavier than others I'm sure.
>> I ordered the struts from JWF Technologies, 6820 Fairfield
>> Business Drive, Fairfield, OH 45014. Phone 513-769-9611.
>> www.JWFtechnologies.com.
>> The struts are Stabilus, Lift-O-Mat part number 2218LP and cost
>> was $78 each. They didnt have them in stock, they come from
>> Germany, and they said it would take 4 to 6 weeks to get them in.
>> On another note, I had to fly from North Texas up to northern Iowa
>> this past weekend for a funeral, burr cold, and ran into a problem
>> that I thought I would pass along. On my way up I kept noticing
>> that my slip ball was constantly out to the left so I had to keep
>> applying left rudder. I usually don't have an issue with rudder so
>> I was attributing some of it to strong cross winds. Sounded good.
>> Anyway in leaving Iowa on Saturday, trying to get out ahead of a
>> snow storm coming in, I pulled the plane out of the heated hangar
>> space I rented into a minus 30 degrees wind-chill weather. Man
>> after being in Texas for awhile I think I've turned into a Texas
>> weenie, man that was cold. One positive of the cold was thick air
>> and the plane was really liking to climb. I noticed again that I
>> needed left rudder to keep the ball centered. We ended up with
>> head winds and had to fly the last 100 miles in the dark. About 60
>> out from my home base I started to hear and feeling a fairly
>> noticeable fluttering noise/feel. As you can imagine my wife, who
>> isn't real thrilled with flying in the dark to begin with, thought
>> the engine was coming off, well maybe not quit but close. I was
>> obviously concerned because any time something flutters I think of
>> control surfaces, but everything felt fine there and the engine
>> parameters were all fine.
>> So I just continued on home without making any quick movements and
>> landed. The next morning I headed out to try and determine what
>> was causing that problem. To make the story shorter I completely
>> checked all surfaces and engine area and then, after talking to an
>> A&P friend of mine, lifted up the plane and checked the tightness
>> of the front wheel. I found that the wheel was fairly loose and
>> could be pushed from side to side without much effort. Apparently
>> over time the tension had loosened. The nut for the fork was in
>> place but apparently over time in had just gotten more play. I
>> tightened up the nut, took it out for a test flight and the
>> vibration was gone and the ball was centered without help from the
>> rudder.
>> I have to assume that when I took off, the wheel pant cantered to
>> one side thus caused the need for additional rudder and for some
>> reason when I started to feel the flutter it had gone way to one
>> side with the wind hitting it sideways causing the fluttering noise.
>> Just thought I would pass this along in case any of you experience
>> this same thing. I actually checked this wheel in June during my
>> conditional before flying to Alaska and it was ok then. Maybe all
>> those landings up there in the north country loosened it up. Wayne
>> Edgerton N602WT
>> *
>> *
>
>
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Subject: | Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens |
Jay I ordered these quite a while ago. I've installed them in the forward
fuse but am not yet flying. All I can say as to their effectiveness is they
fit nice and look good.
-Ben
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jayb
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens
I ran across these the other day. The mesh screen covers would be a bit more
attractive than some other alternatives I've seen discussed in the past.
http://www.directron.com/smf80.html
Regards,
Jay
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Subject: | Re: 'do not tow' |
Here is a sad towing story. Mary and I were bringing our airplane home from the
paint shop. The maiden voyage! We stopped in Wichita to visit family and show
off the airplane. I arranged to have it put into the hangar overnight and told
the line manager I wanted to be there when they moved it. He was a sharp guy
and came over and let me show him what the towing issues are. He said he was
going to the other end of the airport to get another airplane and would move it
when he got back. Elderly in-laws showed up and I got involved with them. Long
story short, one of the other line guy's decided to hook up and move the airplane
by himself. The results are attached. To make matters worse, he acted like
he had not noticed the damage when he unhooked the airplane and went on his
merry way! He is no longer employed, and my wheel pant is on it's way back to
the paint shop and will be repaired and repainted on the FBO's nickle. [Crying
or Very sad]
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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Subject: | Glad to be hangered! |
I'll try to send some that way....I think we got up to 3 yesterday, although
today it warmed up nicely to 14...currently sitting at a balmy 9 degrees F.
Back down to -11 tonight, but warmer weather comin!
Cheers,
Stein
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:54 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
Want to send some cool weather our way?? 125 degs in my hangar and on the
apron at the moment. Wanna know how frustrating that is when you are trying
to do a first engine start????
cheers,
Ron
-187, waiting for the temperature to COOOOL!!
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim@combsfive.com
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 1:19 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
We had some serious Ice and snow over the last few days. I got out to
the airport and was really glad I was in a hanger!
All aircraft had become tail draggers! Hope none are damaged!
Jim Combs
N312F - Flying
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Subject: | Re: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens |
Bob
And Abby's glare shield covers with fan cutouts include the screens!
John H
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From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens
> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> Regardless of which direction you go, it turns out that the location
> where the fans are (at least in my install) aren't really that visible
> in the first place. Now, if you had chrome grills or something like
> that where they stood out it would certainly make a difference. I've
> got the grill area painted flat black and the covering I used on the
> glare shield is also flat black, fake leather. Unless you're looking
> for the fans, you really don't notice that they're there.
>
> Here's what I'm using for the glareshield cover and edging:
> http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GSF15
> I've also heard that Abby also now makes glare shield covers and will
> put custom cutouts in for defrost fans.
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jayb
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:01 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens
>
>
> I ran across these the other day. The mesh screen covers would be a bit
> more attractive than some other alternatives I've seen discussed in the
> past.
>
> http://www.directron.com/smf80.html
>
> Regards,
> Jay
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227521#227521
>
>
>
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Subject: | Glad to be hangered! |
Struggling to maintain composure as it gets to 61 today. Oh well maybe it
will be better tomorrow. You could always move here Stein.
Bob K
Lovely Las Vegas
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SteinAir, Inc.
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
I'll try to send some that way....I think we got up to 3 yesterday, although
today it warmed up nicely to 14...currently sitting at a balmy 9 degrees F.
Back down to -11 tonight, but warmer weather comin!
Cheers,
Stein
do not archive
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
Want to send some cool weather our way?? 125 degs in my hangar and on the
apron at the moment. Wanna know how frustrating that is when you are trying
to do a first engine start????
cheers,
Ron
-187, waiting for the temperature to COOOOL!!
_____
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim@combsfive.com
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 1:19 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
We had some serious Ice and snow over the last few days. I got out to the
airport and was really glad I was in a hanger!
All aircraft had become tail draggers! Hope none are damaged!
Jim Combs
N312F - Flying
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Subject: | Defrost fan steel mesh filter screens |
I purchased an Abby glare shield cover and think it's average looking at
best. The detail around the hand grip made the shield last about 5
minutes on my dash before removing for Plan B.
Robin
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:31 PM
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Bob
And Abby's glare shield covers with fan cutouts include the screens!
John H
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Subject: | Re: Glad to be hangered! |
It is tough duty, but had to do it.......34 at the hangar this
morning, warming to a beastly 72 this afternoon. Too old for these
huge temperature swings. ;-)
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bob Kaufmann <bob.kaufmann@cox.net> wrote:
> Struggling to maintain composure as it gets to 61 today. Oh well maybe it
> will be better tomorrow. You could always move here Stein.
>
>
> Bob K
>
> Lovely Las Vegas
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SteinAir, Inc.
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:09 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
>
>
> I'll try to send some that way....I think we got up to 3 yesterday, although
> today it warmed up nicely to 14...currently sitting at a balmy 9 degrees F.
> Back down to -11 tonight, but warmer weather comin!
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stein
>
>
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:54 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
>
> Want to send some cool weather our way?? 125 degs in my hangar and on the
> apron at the moment. Wanna know how frustrating that is when you are trying
> to do a first engine start????
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Ron
>
> -187, waiting for the temperature to COOOOL!!
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim@combsfive.com
> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 1:19 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
>
> We had some serious Ice and snow over the last few days. I got out to the
> airport and was really glad I was in a hanger!
>
> All aircraft had become tail draggers! Hope none are damaged!
>
> Jim Combs
> N312F - Flying
>
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Subject: | Glad to be hangered! |
Stein understands if the staff is out playing golf, panels aren't
getting built.
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
Robin
VFR Anyone?
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kaufmann
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
Struggling to maintain composure as it gets to 61 today. Oh well maybe
it will be better tomorrow. You could always move here Stein.
Bob K
Lovely Las Vegas
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SteinAir,
Inc.
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
I'll try to send some that way....I think we got up to 3 yesterday,
although today it warmed up nicely to 14...currently sitting at a balmy
9 degrees F. Back down to -11 tonight, but warmer weather comin!
Cheers,
Stein
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:54 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
Want to send some cool weather our way?? 125 degs in my hangar
and on the apron at the moment. Wanna know how frustrating that is when
you are trying to do a first engine start????
cheers,
Ron
-187, waiting for the temperature to COOOOL!!
________________________________
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 1:19 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Glad to be hangered!
We had some serious Ice and snow over the last few days.
I got out to the airport and was really glad I was in a hanger!
All aircraft had become tail draggers! Hope none are
damaged!
Jim Combs
N312F - Flying
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