---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/03/09: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:00 AM - Attach the Tail Feathers? (Perry, Phil) 2. 09:28 AM - Re: Attach the Tail Feathers? (Dave Leikam) 3. 09:37 AM - Re: Attach the Tail Feathers? (orchidman) 4. 10:12 AM - Re: Tru Trak (RV-10) roll servo stop plate (Larry Rosen) 5. 10:51 AM - Re: Attach the Tail Feathers? (Fred Williams, M.D.) 6. 12:17 PM - Motivation (Fred Williams, M.D.) 7. 01:01 PM - Fuel Cap Leak (Bob Leffler) 8. 01:37 PM - Re: Fuel Cap Leak (Fred Williams, M.D.) 9. 01:48 PM - Re: Motivation (Tim Olson) 10. 01:51 PM - Re: Fuel Cap Leak (Rene Felker) 11. 02:47 PM - Re: Motivation (Paul Grimstad) 12. 04:43 PM - Re: Motivation (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 13. 04:52 PM - Re: Motivation (Kelly McMullen) 14. 04:54 PM - Wingtips (Roxanne and Mike Lefever) 15. 05:56 PM - Re: Motivation (Patrick Pulis) 16. 06:36 PM - Re: Wingtips (Dave Leikam) 17. 08:13 PM - Re: Motivation (Don McDonald) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:39 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Attach the Tail Feathers? From: "Perry, Phil" This morning I woke up early and finished the tailcone (Section 10). Now I'm waiting for the QB fuse to arrive in April!!! Apparently the facility in the Philippines was relocated and that has greatly increased the lead times from 3 months to at least 5+ months. So I'm looking for something to do. I wasn't planning on completing section 11 until after the tailcone is attached. But given my scenario, I'm temped to go ahead and press on with Section 11 and just leave the Elevators and Rudder off the plane. (I'll need the depth in the garage later) Anyone have any thoughts on completing section 11? I'm guessing it'll be much easier to attach the tailcone to the QB fuse without the hassle of the tail feathers. Thanks, Phil ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:20 AM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Attach the Tail Feathers? I would start the section and get everything done you can. There are some steps you would wait until final assembly for like installing the trim cables or fairings and this is obvious. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: Perry, Phil To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: Attach the Tail Feathers? This morning I woke up early and finished the tailcone (Section 10). Now I'm waiting for the QB fuse to arrive in April!!! Apparently the facility in the Philippines was relocated and that has greatly increased the lead times from 3 months to at least 5+ months. So I'm looking for something to do. I wasn't planning on completing section 11 until after the tailcone is attached. But given my scenario, I'm temped to go ahead and press on with Section 11 and just leave the Elevators and Rudder off the plane. (I'll need the depth in the garage later) Anyone have any thoughts on completing section 11? I'm guessing it'll be much easier to attach the tailcone to the QB fuse without the hassle of the tail feathers. Thanks, Phil ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:23 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Attach the Tail Feathers? From: "orchidman" Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com wrote: > > Anyone have any thoughts on completing section 11? I'm guessing it'll be much easier to attach the tailcone to the QB fuse without the hassle of the tail feathers. > Thanks, > Phil I would do Section 11 for sure and probably start on much of Section 12. You then take everything apart and hang them from the ceiling or on the walls until you start the final assembly. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Engine, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=228325#228325 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:09 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak (RV-10) roll servo stop plate I spoke with Zack from Tru Trak today. The control stop is not necessary on the RV 10 pitch servo because of the way the torque enhancer works. You will not be able to lock up the servo. However, it is part of there recommended install for the roll servo. They do want the screws to be as short as practical. If they are too long they will ride against a gear inside the servo. But, one thread is too short. The screw is a 6-32. I will need to look through my parts bins to see if I have the control stop for the roll servo. Otherwise TT will send one out to me. Thanks everyone for bringing up this topic. I will now know of a mistake that I can easily correct. Better now than when it is to late. Larry Tim Olson wrote: > > One thing to consider if they won't let you go with longer screws > is using loctite on them once you fix it in a position you are > happy with. It would be better than having it come apart. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > > > Tim Lewis wrote: >> >> Thanks for all the replies. Good info. >> >> I sent an email to Tru Trak asking about longer screws. I'll let you >> know what I hear. The screw max length will be a consideration, due >> to the moving pieces inside the servo that are right behind the screw >> holes. You can actually see movement of an interior servo part >> through the screw hole. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tim >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:59 AM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: Re: RV10-List: Attach the Tail Feathers? Don't forget to put some tie wire/coat hangar/string thru the hole where the trim cables run. It will save you 45 minutes (at least) when trying to install the tail feathers. (don't ask me how I know :) ) Dr Fred. Perry, Phil wrote: > This morning I woke up early and finished the tailcone (Section 10). > > Now I'm waiting for the QB fuse to arrive in April!!! Apparently the > facility in the Philippines was relocated and that has greatly > increased the lead times from 3 months to at least 5+ months. > > So I'm looking for something to do. I wasn't planning on completing > section 11 until after the tailcone is attached. But given my > scenario, I'm temped to go ahead and press on with Section 11 and just > leave the Elevators and Rudder off the plane. (I'll need the depth in > the garage later) > > Anyone have any thoughts on completing section 11? I'm guessing it'll > be much easier to attach the tailcone to the QB fuse without the > hassle of the tail feathers. > > Thanks, > Phil > > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:16 PM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: RV10-List: Motivation Kit 40515 passed another major milestone Friday. Got her back from the paint shop. Flying Colors of Texas in Gainesville did the job. Took four weeks. She is back in the air and doing fine. Keep pounding those rivets. It's worth it. See you at Sun in Fun and Oshkosh. Dr Fred. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:30 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Cap Leak In testing my first fuel tank, it appears that I have a leak. The only leak I can find in the fuel cap. Air bubbles were coming up from under the tab. I moved the tab to different positions to ensure that the leak moved with the tab and to rule out the leak was coming between the flange and skin. The leak did move. So I decided to increase the tension by =BC=94 turn. That helped eliminating the leak around the seal, but it does appear that I still have a leak coming from the center post. It also appears to be the same with both fuel caps. I=92ll give Van=92s a call in the morning, but I was curious as if anyone else has run into anything similar and have some advice to share. Thanks, Bob ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:05 PM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Cap Leak I had to use packing tape over the whole gas cap to get a good enough seal to see if there were any leaks. I don't think the gas caps are designed to be totally leak proof. Dr Fred. Bob Leffler wrote: > > In testing my first fuel tank, it appears that I have a leak. The only > leak I can find in the fuel cap. Air bubbles were coming up from under > the tab. I moved the tab to different positions to ensure that the > leak moved with the tab and to rule out the leak was coming between > the flange and skin. The leak did move. So I decided to increase the > tension by turn. That helped eliminating the leak around the seal, > but it does appear that I still have a leak coming from the center > post. It also appears to be the same with both fuel caps. > > Ill give Vans a call in the morning, but I was curious as if anyone > else has run into anything similar and have some advice to share. > > Thanks, > > Bob > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:43 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Motivation Way cool Dr. Fred! Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Fred Williams, M.D. wrote: > Kit 40515 passed another major milestone Friday. Got her back from the > paint shop. Flying Colors of Texas in Gainesville did the job. Took > four weeks. She is back in the air and doing fine. Keep pounding those > rivets. It's worth it. See you at Sun in Fun and Oshkosh. > > Dr Fred. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:51:15 PM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Cap Leak Same for me. I got one to seal, never got the other one to seal. Have some leakage in flight when the line guy fills up the tank to high. Rene' Felker RV-10 N423CF Flying 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Williams, M.D. Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Cap Leak I had to use packing tape over the whole gas cap to get a good enough seal to see if there were any leaks. I don't think the gas caps are designed to be totally leak proof. Dr Fred. Bob Leffler wrote: > > In testing my first fuel tank, it appears that I have a leak. The only > leak I can find in the fuel cap. Air bubbles were coming up from under > the tab. I moved the tab to different positions to ensure that the > leak moved with the tab and to rule out the leak was coming between > the flange and skin. The leak did move. So I decided to increase the > tension by turn. That helped eliminating the leak around the seal, > but it does appear that I still have a leak coming from the center > post. It also appears to be the same with both fuel caps. > > Ill give Vans a call in the morning, but I was curious as if anyone > else has run into anything similar and have some advice to share. > > Thanks, > > Bob > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:22 PM PST US From: "Paul Grimstad" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Motivation Dr. Fred, That is one of, if not my favorite RV10 paint designs. The colors pop out and flow with the airplane. Looks fast and sleek. Awsome job. Fly up to Oregon this spring we'll have a Northwest RV10 builders party with you and your wife as honored guests. Paul Grimstad RV10 450 Portland, Or. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: RV10-List: Motivation > Kit 40515 passed another major milestone Friday. Got her back from the > paint shop. Flying Colors of Texas in Gainesville did the job. Took > four weeks. She is back in the air and doing fine. Keep pounding those > rivets. It's worth it. See you at Sun in Fun and Oshkosh. > > Dr Fred. > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:57 PM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Motivation Looks great! We're envious here.,,, Thanks Bill Fred Williams, M.D. wrote: > Kit 40515 passed another major milestone Friday. Got her back from > the paint shop. Flying Colors of Texas in Gainesville did the job. > Took four weeks. She is back in the air and doing fine. Keep > pounding those rivets. It's worth it. See you at Sun in Fun and > Oshkosh. > > Dr Fred. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Motivation From: Kelly McMullen Beautiful. Hmm, small world, I have landed at Paris Tx and Gainesville a couple times. On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Fred Williams, M.D. wrote: > Kit 40515 passed another major milestone Friday. Got her back from the > paint shop. Flying Colors of Texas in Gainesville did the job. Took four > weeks. She is back in the air and doing fine. Keep pounding those rivets. > It's worth it. See you at Sun in Fun and Oshkosh. > > Dr Fred. > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:54:59 PM PST US From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever Subject: RV10-List: Wingtips I read Tim's saga of the crooked wing tip on his site. Have others experie nced problems here? I have attached them only to find the right tip is pre tty straight but the left curves upward and is out at least 1.5 inches at t he end. I am looking for any creative solutions before I begin cutting and try to make them true. Mike Lefever Chandler Arizona ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:58 PM PST US From: Patrick Pulis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Motivation Very nice Doc.=0A=0APatrick Pulis=0AAdelaide, South Australia=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Fred Williams, M.D." =0ATo: RV 10 =0ASent: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009 6:41:47 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Motivation=0A=0AKit 4051 5 passed another major milestone Friday.=C2- Got her back from the paint shop.=C2- Flying Colors of Texas in Gainesville did the job. Took four we eks.=C2- She is back in the air and doing fine.=C2- Keep pounding those rivets.=C2- It's worth it.=C2- See you at Sun in Fun and Oshkosh.=0A =0ADr Fred.=0A=0A=0A Make Yahoo!7 your homepage and win a trip to the Quiksilver Pro. Find out more ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:14 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wingtips I was able to adjust mine slightly with a heat gun. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA (Reserved) Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: RV10-List: Wingtips I read Tim's saga of the crooked wing tip on his site. Have others experienced problems here? I have attached them only to find the right tip is pretty straight but the left curves upward and is out at least 1.5 inches at the end. I am looking for any creative solutions before I begin cutting and try to make them true. Mike Lefever Chandler Arizona ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:27 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Motivation Lookin' great, Dr. Fred.- Thanks for the boost in motivation.- Although most of the boost needs to be in the form of flying lessons!!!--- Ho pefully, I'll join those of you flying,, soon.- Working on paperwork and finishing touches. Don McDonald --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Fred Williams, M.D. wrote: From: Fred Williams, M.D. Subject: RV10-List: Motivation Kit 40515 passed another major milestone Friday. Got her back from the pai nt shop. Flying Colors of Texas in Gainesville did the job. Took four weeks. She is back in the air and doing fine. Keep pounding those rivets. It's worth it. See you at Sun in Fun and Oshkosh. 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