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1. 12:05 AM - Re: Getting ready for the Monster Plane rally (Don McDonald)
2. 12:08 AM - Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior (Don McDonald)
3. 12:53 AM - Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior (Patrick ONeill)
4. 06:51 AM - RV-10 overhead consoles for sale (Carl Froehlich)
5. 06:55 AM - Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior (Dave Leikam)
6. 08:03 AM - Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior (pascal)
7. 08:09 AM - Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior (Johnson)
8. 08:25 AM - parts to omit from kit? (Nate Lewis)
9. 08:37 AM - Re: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale (Mike Schulz)
10. 08:40 AM - Re: parts to omit from kit? (Rene)
11. 08:54 AM - Re: parts to omit from kit? (Don McDonald)
12. 09:20 AM - Re: Getting ready for the Monster Plane rally (AirMike)
13. 09:36 AM - Re: Up on its' gear (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
14. 09:51 AM - Re: Parking brake (Kevin Belue)
15. 11:28 AM - Re: parts to omit from kit? (Nate Lewis)
16. 11:28 AM - Re: parts to omit from kit? (Nate Lewis)
17. 11:45 AM - Re: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale (Carl Froehlich)
18. 11:45 AM - countersink doubler or wing skin? (Andy Turner)
19. 12:33 PM - Re: countersink doubler or wing skin? (pascal)
20. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: Getting ready for the Monster Plane rally (John Gonzalez)
21. 01:06 PM - Re: parts to omit from kit? (Kelly McMullen)
22. 02:52 PM - Re: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale (John Cox)
23. 03:46 PM - Re: Parking brake (Bob Turner)
24. 06:32 PM - Re: Aileron rigging - Reflex ? (richard sipp)
25. 06:54 PM - Re: Aileron rigging - Reflex ? (Deems Davis)
26. 07:12 PM - Re: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale (Jay Wik)
27. 07:12 PM - Re: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale (Jay Wik)
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| Subject: | Re: Getting ready for the Monster Plane rally |
You guys are making me feel bad.- I built a craddle to hold the fuselage
and emppage, then to install the legs, I just rolled it outside and picked
it up with a forklift.... done..
Don McDonald
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> wrote:
From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Getting ready for the Monster Plane rally
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People that visit the shop now say:
1) Hey how big are those tire gonna be?
2) Are ya goin to a monster truck rally?
3) You musta spend time at a boat yard.
4) How ya gonna get that thing outa here?
This is 33" off the ground at the belly...it is level fore and aft and side
to side. Only took a few hours and all the wood around the property that I
could find. Tried to move the engine crate from the storage container to t
he shop, but the fork lift got stuck in the gravel, we had to pull it out w
ith the F250. Just another day, not much accomplished.
Just having a little fun
The last shot is a picture of my teeth after propping the plane up today, I
was cleanching! Just a little nervous!
John G.=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior |
I worked for the Franchise Tax Board for 28 years.,... you are so right.-
- I have a catamaran on the east coast and Calif went after me for the sa
les tax....- When I didn't get all the info to them (because we were in t
he Bahamas) they sent me a bill for $33,000.- Did finally get it all stra
ightened out, but what a pain.
So, definitely donot post your scheme on any board.- Pascal, email me.
Don McDonald
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, ricksked@embarqmail.com <ricksked@embarqmail.com> wrote
:
From: ricksked@embarqmail.com <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
If I were you guys I suggest you not post your tax evasion schemes on the
list....government knowledge is dangerous...remember the TSA thread the oth
er
day?
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message-----
From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
<capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
Wow, I thought new York was bad.. perhaps setting up a out of state
corporation which owns the aircraft could help..
I have used Nevada before..
steve DiNieri 40205
IFLYRV10.COM
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
<chuck@chuckdirect.com>
>
> While we're speaking of cutting corners or costs, what are you guys
doing
> about yearly property taxes on your RV10s particularly those of you livin
g
> in California. As near as I can tell it's going to cost me about
$2,000 a
> year in "personal property taxes" for the state/county to allow
me to keep
> my airplane. Ideas?
> Chuck
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>
>>
>> Oh, and for what it's worth, if you can stomach it, and you find
>> the RIGHT partner, going partners in a plane can have just
>> tremendous cost savings advantages for maintenance, for hangar
>> costs, and all that aspect too. I have to say, finishing the
>> plane is expensive, but once I got mine flying, I found that
>> whereas I had previously been able to save up quite a bit of
>> money in shorter timeframes, just the fact that I was flying
>> the plane really heavily impacts how fast our savings account
>> is rebounding. It's been 3 years now that I've been flying
>> my RV-10. It took me 2 years to build it. I saved up only
>> about 1/2 to 1/3 of the money in the bank SINCE I've finished
>> the plane in 3 years, as I did in the 2 or 3 years prior while
>> building it. That's why I'm not a fan of financing a kit
>> project...because once you're done, making the payments isn't
>> going to be any easier if you actually use your airplane.
>>
>> So if you do indeed find a good partner, even if you do it for
>> a limited timeframe, it could give you the opportunity to get
>> back into a good financial position without sacrificing what you
>> want to put into the plane, and make the long-term possibilities
>> more feasable.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Jeff Carpenter wrote:
<jeff@westcottpress.com>
>>>
>>> With the downturn in the economy (my business, a commercial
printing
>>> company, is down 40%) I'm having to rethink my RV-10 plans and
would
>>> love to hear some thoughts about cost cutting options in the home
>>> stretch. I imagine I'm not the only one struggling with these
issues
>>> and I think the conversation would benefit many. Because of where
I am
>>> in the build, and the many topics this will span, I think it's
best to
>>> break this in to three threads: Interior, Panel and Paint.
Others may
>>> want to expand beyond these three, but these are the areas I have
in
>>> front of me to consider. The option of taking on a partner is
also
>>> something I'm considering, but I want to see things play out a
while
>>> longer before I go that route.
>>>
>>> My plan has been to buy a Flightline Interior in leather at a cost
of
>>> about $5000. I'm now considering adding the craft of
upholstery to the
>>> list of things I've learned while building this plane. For
those that
>>> have "rolled your own" interiors, was the raw material
cost low enough
>>> to realize some savings? What are some good resources for
headliner,
>>> carpet and leather? What tools are required? What are the best
"How
>>> To" books to read?
>>>
>>> Up until now, I have had a nice mix of time and money. Now
I've got a
>>> surplus of time... money, not so much.
>>>
>>> Jeff Carpenter
>>> 40304
>>> N410CF (reserved)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior |
Ditto on that. I've lived in CA my entire life and the CA FTB is definitely
the worst. I'll deal with the IRS over them any day of the week.
The tax issues on my project are getting just as much diligence as the
workmanship on the plane.
Patrick #40715
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
I worked for the Franchise Tax Board for 28 years.,... you are so right. I
have a catamaran on the east coast and Calif went after me for the sales
tax.... When I didn't get all the info to them (because we were in the
Bahamas) they sent me a bill for $33,000. Did finally get it all
straightened out, but what a pain.
So, definitely donot post your scheme on any board. Pascal, email me.
Don McDonald
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, ricksked@embarqmail.com <ricksked@embarqmail.com> wrote:
From: ricksked@embarqmail.com <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
If I were you guys I suggest you not post your tax evasion schemes on the
list....government knowledge is dangerous...remember the TSA thread the
other
day?
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message-----
From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
<capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
Wow, I thought new York was bad.. perhaps setting up a out of state
corporation which owns the aircraft could help..
I have used Nevada before..
steve DiNieri 40205
IFLYRV10.COM
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
<chuck@chuckdirect.com>
>
> While we're speaking of cutting corners or costs, what are you guys
doing
> about yearly property taxes on your RV10s particularly those of you living
> in California. As near as I can tell it's going to cost me about
$2,000 a
> year in "personal property taxes" for the state/county to allow
me to keep
> my airplane. Ideas?
> Chuck
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>
>>
>> Oh, and for what it's worth, if you can stomach it, and you find
>> the RIGHT partner, going partners in a plane can have just
>> tremendous cost savings advantages for maintenance, for hangar
>> costs, and all that aspect too. I have to say, finishing the
>> plane is expensive, but once I got mine flying, I found that
>> whereas I had previously been able to save up quite a bit of
>> money in shorter timeframes, just the fact that I was flying
>> the plane really heavily impacts how fast our savings account
>> is rebounding. It's been 3 years now that I've been flying
>> my RV-10. It took me 2 years to build it. I saved up only
>> about 1/2 to 1/3 of the money in the bank SINCE I've finished
>> the plane in 3 years, as I did in the 2 or 3 years prior while
>> building it. That's why I'm not a fan of financing a kit
>> project...because once you're done, making the payments isn't
>> going to be any easier if you actually use your airplane.
>>
>> So if you do indeed find a good partner, even if you do it for
>> a limited timeframe, it could give you the opportunity to get
>> back into a good financial position without sacrificing what you
>> want to put into the plane, and make the long-term possibilities
>> more feasable.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Jeff Carpenter wrote:
<jeff@westcottpress.com>
>>>
>>> With the downturn in the economy (my business, a commercial
printing
>>> company, is down 40%) I'm having to rethink my RV-10 plans and
would
>>> love to hear some thoughts about cost cutting options in the home
>>> stretch. I imagine I'm not the only one struggling with these
issues
>>> and I think the conversation would benefit many. Because of where
I am
>>> in the build, and the many topics this will span, I think it's
best to
>>> break this in to three threads: Interior, Panel and Paint.
Others may
>>> want to expand beyond these three, but these are the areas I have
in
>>> front of me to consider. The option of taking on a partner is
also
>>> something I'm considering, but I want to see things play out a
while
>>> longer before I go that route.
>>>
>>> My plan has been to buy a Flightline Interior in leather at a cost
of
>>> about $5000. I'm now considering adding the craft of
upholstery to the
>>> list of things I've learned while building this plane. For
those that
>>> have "rolled your own" interiors, was the raw material
cost low enough
>>> to realize some savings? What are some good resources for
headliner,
>>> carpet and leather? What tools are required? What are the best
"How
>>> To" books to read?
>>>
>>> Up until now, I have had a nice mix of time and money. Now
I've got a
>>> surplus of time... money, not so much.
>>>
>>> Jeff Carpenter
>>> 40304
>>> N410CF (reserved)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 overhead consoles for sale |
I purchased two Accuracy Avionics overhead panels for my project and for a
friend's project. http://www.accuracyavionics.com/v1/fiberglassoptions.html
We decided not to install an overhead console. They are as received from
Accuracy Avionics. Selling them for $275 each plus shipping - half of what
I paid.
Carl Froehlich
540 371-8482
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| Subject: | Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior |
I thought tax evasion was legal now?
In WI I believe we pay tax on the project at registration time. That is why
I am keeping detailed receipts of every purchase I have made during the
entire build to present to the WI Dept. of Revenue so they may tax me
accordingly.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>
> If I were you guys I suggest you not post your tax evasion schemes on the
> list....government knowledge is dangerous...remember the TSA thread the
> other day?
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:03:16
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>
>
>
> Wow, I thought new York was bad.. perhaps setting up a out of state
> corporation which owns the aircraft could help..
> I have used Nevada before..
>
> steve DiNieri 40205
> IFLYRV10.COM
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:55 PM
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>
>>
>> While we're speaking of cutting corners or costs, what are you guys doing
>> about yearly property taxes on your RV10s particularly those of you
>> living
>> in California. As near as I can tell it's going to cost me about $2,000
>> a
>> year in "personal property taxes" for the state/county to allow me to
>> keep
>> my airplane. Ideas?
>> Chuck
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>>
>>>
>>> Oh, and for what it's worth, if you can stomach it, and you find
>>> the RIGHT partner, going partners in a plane can have just
>>> tremendous cost savings advantages for maintenance, for hangar
>>> costs, and all that aspect too. I have to say, finishing the
>>> plane is expensive, but once I got mine flying, I found that
>>> whereas I had previously been able to save up quite a bit of
>>> money in shorter timeframes, just the fact that I was flying
>>> the plane really heavily impacts how fast our savings account
>>> is rebounding. It's been 3 years now that I've been flying
>>> my RV-10. It took me 2 years to build it. I saved up only
>>> about 1/2 to 1/3 of the money in the bank SINCE I've finished
>>> the plane in 3 years, as I did in the 2 or 3 years prior while
>>> building it. That's why I'm not a fan of financing a kit
>>> project...because once you're done, making the payments isn't
>>> going to be any easier if you actually use your airplane.
>>>
>>> So if you do indeed find a good partner, even if you do it for
>>> a limited timeframe, it could give you the opportunity to get
>>> back into a good financial position without sacrificing what you
>>> want to put into the plane, and make the long-term possibilities
>>> more feasable.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Carpenter wrote:
>>>> <jeff@westcottpress.com>
>>>>
>>>> With the downturn in the economy (my business, a commercial printing
>>>> company, is down 40%) I'm having to rethink my RV-10 plans and would
>>>> love to hear some thoughts about cost cutting options in the home
>>>> stretch. I imagine I'm not the only one struggling with these issues
>>>> and I think the conversation would benefit many. Because of where I am
>>>> in the build, and the many topics this will span, I think it's best to
>>>> break this in to three threads: Interior, Panel and Paint. Others may
>>>> want to expand beyond these three, but these are the areas I have in
>>>> front of me to consider. The option of taking on a partner is also
>>>> something I'm considering, but I want to see things play out a while
>>>> longer before I go that route.
>>>>
>>>> My plan has been to buy a Flightline Interior in leather at a cost of
>>>> about $5000. I'm now considering adding the craft of upholstery to the
>>>> list of things I've learned while building this plane. For those that
>>>> have "rolled your own" interiors, was the raw material cost low enough
>>>> to realize some savings? What are some good resources for headliner,
>>>> carpet and leather? What tools are required? What are the best "How
>>>> To" books to read?
>>>>
>>>> Up until now, I have had a nice mix of time and money. Now I've got a
>>>> surplus of time... money, not so much.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Carpenter
>>>> 40304
>>>> N410CF (reserved)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior |
Tim. I believe, had a writeup on this on his site.
In Ca you do too but if you pay along the way when they go to tax you once
the FAA has your number as active in California the FTB comes out with a
bill once you show that you already pay all taxes to build the plane and
they don't pursue taxing you again, so you only pay taxes on the actual cost
not the estiomated value- same thing you are saying just easier than doing
it later with every receipt.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>
> I thought tax evasion was legal now?
>
> In WI I believe we pay tax on the project at registration time. That is
> why I am keeping detailed receipts of every purchase I have made during
> the entire build to present to the WI Dept. of Revenue so they may tax me
> accordingly.
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
> To: "Rv" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:33 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>
>
>>
>> If I were you guys I suggest you not post your tax evasion schemes on the
>> list....government knowledge is dangerous...remember the TSA thread the
>> other day?
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@iflyrv10.com>
>>
>> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:03:16
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow, I thought new York was bad.. perhaps setting up a out of state
>> corporation which owns the aircraft could help..
>> I have used Nevada before..
>>
>> steve DiNieri 40205
>> IFLYRV10.COM
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:55 PM
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>>
>>>
>>> While we're speaking of cutting corners or costs, what are you guys
>>> doing
>>> about yearly property taxes on your RV10s particularly those of you
>>> living
>>> in California. As near as I can tell it's going to cost me about $2,000
>>> a
>>> year in "personal property taxes" for the state/county to allow me to
>>> keep
>>> my airplane. Ideas?
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and for what it's worth, if you can stomach it, and you find
>>>> the RIGHT partner, going partners in a plane can have just
>>>> tremendous cost savings advantages for maintenance, for hangar
>>>> costs, and all that aspect too. I have to say, finishing the
>>>> plane is expensive, but once I got mine flying, I found that
>>>> whereas I had previously been able to save up quite a bit of
>>>> money in shorter timeframes, just the fact that I was flying
>>>> the plane really heavily impacts how fast our savings account
>>>> is rebounding. It's been 3 years now that I've been flying
>>>> my RV-10. It took me 2 years to build it. I saved up only
>>>> about 1/2 to 1/3 of the money in the bank SINCE I've finished
>>>> the plane in 3 years, as I did in the 2 or 3 years prior while
>>>> building it. That's why I'm not a fan of financing a kit
>>>> project...because once you're done, making the payments isn't
>>>> going to be any easier if you actually use your airplane.
>>>>
>>>> So if you do indeed find a good partner, even if you do it for
>>>> a limited timeframe, it could give you the opportunity to get
>>>> back into a good financial position without sacrificing what you
>>>> want to put into the plane, and make the long-term possibilities
>>>> more feasable.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Carpenter wrote:
>>>>> <jeff@westcottpress.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> With the downturn in the economy (my business, a commercial printing
>>>>> company, is down 40%) I'm having to rethink my RV-10 plans and would
>>>>> love to hear some thoughts about cost cutting options in the home
>>>>> stretch. I imagine I'm not the only one struggling with these issues
>>>>> and I think the conversation would benefit many. Because of where I
>>>>> am
>>>>> in the build, and the many topics this will span, I think it's best to
>>>>> break this in to three threads: Interior, Panel and Paint. Others
>>>>> may
>>>>> want to expand beyond these three, but these are the areas I have in
>>>>> front of me to consider. The option of taking on a partner is also
>>>>> something I'm considering, but I want to see things play out a while
>>>>> longer before I go that route.
>>>>>
>>>>> My plan has been to buy a Flightline Interior in leather at a cost of
>>>>> about $5000. I'm now considering adding the craft of upholstery to
>>>>> the
>>>>> list of things I've learned while building this plane. For those that
>>>>> have "rolled your own" interiors, was the raw material cost low enough
>>>>> to realize some savings? What are some good resources for headliner,
>>>>> carpet and leather? What tools are required? What are the best "How
>>>>> To" books to read?
>>>>>
>>>>> Up until now, I have had a nice mix of time and money. Now I've got a
>>>>> surplus of time... money, not so much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Carpenter
>>>>> 40304
>>>>> N410CF (reserved)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior |
How about using a mid time engine? You can take at least half off the price
of a new one and still have 1000 hours of flight time. I have a nice one
available for $14k with under 1000 hours SMOH if anybody is interested.
Email for details.
Cheers...
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Carpenter" <jeff@westcottpress.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Change in Economy... Change in Plans... Interior
>
> With the downturn in the economy (my business, a commercial printing
> company, is down 40%) I'm having to rethink my RV-10 plans and would love
> to hear some thoughts about cost cutting options in the home stretch. I
> imagine I'm not the only one struggling with these issues and I think the
> conversation would benefit many. Because of where I am in the build, and
> the many topics this will span, I think it's best to break this in to
> three threads: Interior, Panel and Paint. Others may want to expand
> beyond these three, but these are the areas I have in front of me to
> consider. The option of taking on a partner is also something I'm
> considering, but I want to see things play out a while longer before I go
> that route.
>
> My plan has been to buy a Flightline Interior in leather at a cost of
> about $5000. I'm now considering adding the craft of upholstery to the
> list of things I've learned while building this plane. For those that
> have "rolled your own" interiors, was the raw material cost low enough to
> realize some savings? What are some good resources for headliner, carpet
> and leather? What tools are required? What are the best "How To" books
> to read?
>
> Up until now, I have had a nice mix of time and money. Now I've got a
> surplus of time... money, not so much.
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
> N410CF (reserved)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | parts to omit from kit? |
delurking, and hello folks -
I think I'm about ready to pull the trigger and go visit the factory for a
flight, and come home with the emp kit.
The recent talk of stainless heater valves and door latches has me
wondering: is there a list of parts to consider deleting from the stock
RV-10 kits, in favor of other solutions? from what I've read, I'm guessing
there's nothing to omit from the empennage, perhaps just a couple things in
the wings, and dozens of items in the remaining kits.
I should probably ask the same question about the recommended tools list,
but I'm sure I wouldn't get the same answers from any two people, so I'll
just muddle through that part on my own. :)
I guess I've got plenty of time to soak up ideas about the fuse kit and
beyond, but I might order the wing kit real soon now. any particular advice
at order time?
Thanks!
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| Subject: | RV-10 overhead consoles for sale |
I would take one.
Mike Schulz
Pro Fish Enterprises, LLC
4878 Edgewater Drive
Mound, MN 55364
612-590-8604
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale
I purchased two Accuracy Avionics overhead panels for my project and for a
friend's project. http://www.accuracyavionics.com/v1/fiberglassoptions.html
We decided not to install an overhead console. They are as received from
Accuracy Avionics. Selling them for $275 each plus shipping - half of what
I paid.
Carl Froehlich
540 371-8482
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| Subject: | parts to omit from kit? |
My only recommendation is to go to Tim's site and look at the list of things
not included in the kit and at the mods. Also, there are a hand full of
after market parts that would save you some time and effort. I did not buy
any for the emp and wings. I did buy the door pins and flush door handles.
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/index.html
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nate Lewis
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: RV10-List: parts to omit from kit?
delurking, and hello folks -
I think I'm about ready to pull the trigger and go visit the factory for a
flight, and come home with the emp kit.
The recent talk of stainless heater valves and door latches has me
wondering: is there a list of parts to consider deleting from the stock
RV-10 kits, in favor of other solutions? from what I've read, I'm guessing
there's nothing to omit from the empennage, perhaps just a couple things in
the wings, and dozens of items in the remaining kits.
I should probably ask the same question about the recommended tools list,
but I'm sure I wouldn't get the same answers from any two people, so I'll
just muddle through that part on my own. :)
I guess I've got plenty of time to soak up ideas about the fuse kit and
beyond, but I might order the wing kit real soon now. any particular advice
at order time?
Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: parts to omit from kit? |
Hey Nate, first tell us where you are?- Lot's of us have extra parts, and
someone close to you could get together with you and give you a really goo
d breakdown of what you could delete, and what you need in addition.- I d
id delete quite a few things from the later kit segments, but I also sent q
uite a few things back to Van's.... enough little items to pay for my seat
belts.
One thing is certain, buy more #6 and #8 nutplates.
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Nate Lewis <nlewis@wildblue.net> wrote:
From: Nate Lewis <nlewis@wildblue.net>
Subject: RV10-List: parts to omit from kit?
<nlewis@wildblue.net>
delurking, and hello folks -
I think I'm about ready to pull the trigger and go visit the factory for a
flight, and come home with the emp kit.
The recent talk of stainless heater valves and door latches has me wonderin
g:
is there a list of parts to consider deleting from the stock RV-10 kits, in
favor of other solutions? from what I've read, I'm guessing there's
nothing to omit from the empennage, perhaps just a couple things in the win
gs,
and dozens of items in the remaining kits.
I should probably ask the same question about the recommended tools list, b
ut
I'm sure I wouldn't get the same answers from any two people, so
I'll just muddle through that part on my own. :)
I guess I've got plenty of time to soak up ideas about the fuse kit and
beyond, but I might order the wing kit real soon now. any particular advic
e at
order time?
Thanks!
=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Getting ready for the Monster Plane rally |
Hey John. You might want to look up the chapter on the gear fairings and wheel
pants while the plane is on jacks and level. Might save you some time and angst
getting them aligned now.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229212#229212
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| Subject: | Re: Up on its' gear |
I put mine on top of a 34" workbench yesterday and that is clearly be
high enough to install the gear legs and the wheels. I used my HF
engine hoist to lift the fuse on the table. Worked very well.
Bill
John Gonzalez wrote:
> Can someone give me a measurement of how high the fuse bottom is off
> the ground while the plane is on it's gear.
>
> I need to barrow a pallet jack to raise my fuse holder off the ground
> and I want to barrow it and return it in the same day.
>
> Thanks,
>
> JOhn G.
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Parking brake |
The problem I had with the parking brake valve is where it is, not how
it is mounted. It is really difficult to bend up under the panel to
remove or install it after everything is finished. I even took the
seat out. I decided it was not worth the effort to put it back. I
haven't had a need for it anyway.
Kevin Belue
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 7, 2009, at 5:59 AM, "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> Did you have the PVPV-1 or PVPV-D?
>
> I just ordered a PV-2 yesterday from Van's, which I believe is the
> PVPV-D.
>
> Just curious.....
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Belue
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:43 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Parking brake
>
>
> Yes, I was thinking it would be easy to repair, but after the pain of
> getting to it and removing it, I decided to not go through that again
> and left it out. It is really in a difficult place to access once
> everything is finished. I mounted mine the same as most of you did- in
> place of the bracket that holds the brake lines to the firewall. I
> hope you guys have better luck than I did.
>
> Kevin Belue
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, That's news, I wonder if others have also had the same problem?
>> Looking at the parts diagram it looks like you should be able to
>> replace the 3 O-rings fairly easily.http://matco.veracart.com/pdf/
>> mastercylinder23a.pdf
>> I wonder if you could get the Vitron O-rings this size?
>>
>> Deems
>>
>>
>> Kevin Belue wrote:
>>>
>>> I installed the Matco parking brake in my RV10 and it didn't leak
>>> until I started using my brakes for engine runup. Then it started
>>> leaking out of the valve (not the fittings), so I removed it.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: parts to omit from kit? |
Thanks - I'm near Monroe, WA, northeast of Seattle. I'd love to meet
any local -10 builders :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Don McDonald
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: parts to omit from kit?
Hey Nate, first tell us where you are? Lot's of us have extra
parts, and someone close to you could get together with you and give you
a really good breakdown of what you could delete, and what you need in
addition. I did delete quite a few things from the later kit segments,
but I also sent quite a few things back to Van's.... enough little items
to pay for my seat belts.
One thing is certain, buy more #6 and #8 nutplates.
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Nate Lewis <nlewis@wildblue.net> wrote:
From: Nate Lewis <nlewis@wildblue.net>
Subject: RV10-List: parts to omit from kit?
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 8:24 AM
<nlewis@wildblue.net>
delurking, and hello folks -
I think I'm about ready to pull the trigger and go visit the factory for
a
flight, and come home with the emp kit.
The recent talk of stainless heater valves and door latches has me
wondering:
is there a list of parts to consider deleting from the stock RV-10 kits,
in
favor of other solutions? from what I've read, I'm guessing there's
nothing to omit from the empennage, perhaps just a couple things in the
wings,
and dozens of items in the remaining kits.
I should probably ask the same question about the recommended tools
list, but
I'm sure I wouldn't get the same answers from any two people, so
I'll just muddle through that part on my own. :)
I guess I've got plenty of time to soak up ideas about the fuse kit and
beyond, but I might order the wing kit real soon now. any particular
advice at
order time?
Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: parts to omit from kit? |
Thanks - I'm near Monroe, WA, northeast of Seattle. I'd love to meet
any local -10 builders :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Don McDonald
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: parts to omit from kit?
Hey Nate, first tell us where you are? Lot's of us have extra
parts, and someone close to you could get together with you and give you
a really good breakdown of what you could delete, and what you need in
addition. I did delete quite a few things from the later kit segments,
but I also sent quite a few things back to Van's.... enough little items
to pay for my seat belts.
One thing is certain, buy more #6 and #8 nutplates.
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Nate Lewis <nlewis@wildblue.net> wrote:
From: Nate Lewis <nlewis@wildblue.net>
Subject: RV10-List: parts to omit from kit?
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 8:24 AM
<nlewis@wildblue.net>
delurking, and hello folks -
I think I'm about ready to pull the trigger and go visit the factory for
a
flight, and come home with the emp kit.
The recent talk of stainless heater valves and door latches has me
wondering:
is there a list of parts to consider deleting from the stock RV-10 kits,
in
favor of other solutions? from what I've read, I'm guessing there's
nothing to omit from the empennage, perhaps just a couple things in the
wings,
and dozens of items in the remaining kits.
I should probably ask the same question about the recommended tools
list, but
I'm sure I wouldn't get the same answers from any two people, so
I'll just muddle through that part on my own. :)
I guess I've got plenty of time to soak up ideas about the fuse kit and
beyond, but I might order the wing kit real soon now. any particular
advice at
order time?
Thanks!
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| Subject: | RV-10 overhead consoles for sale |
Mike,
Nice talking with you on the phone. As discussed, please send a check for
$300. After I ship it I'll send you a note on whatever the balance is for
actual shipping cost.
Carl Froehlich
40 Beechcraft Court
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22405
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Schulz
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale
I would take one.
Mike Schulz
Pro Fish Enterprises, LLC
4878 Edgewater Drive
Mound, MN 55364
612-590-8604
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale
I purchased two Accuracy Avionics overhead panels for my project and for a
friend's project. http://www.accuracyavionics.com/v1/fiberglassoptions.html
We decided not to install an overhead console. They are as received from
Accuracy Avionics. Selling them for $275 each plus shipping - half of what
I paid.
Carl Froehlich
540 371-8482
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | countersink doubler or wing skin? |
Quick question here: I've finished match drilling top wing skins to the ribs, time
to countersink the area associated with the doublers. The instructions seem
to suggest that it is the top skin that is machine countersunk, but the archives
hold a couple of posts suggesting that the builders countersunk the doubler
and dimpled the wing skin. It seems to me that either would work - What say
ye all?
--------
Andy Turner
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229227#229227
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| Subject: | Re: countersink doubler or wing skin? |
when given the chance countersink the middle piece and dimple the top piece,
with that said I think I countersunk the skins per the plans, but not
knowing the section/step I can not be certain.
The top is being held with the head of the rivet then bottom is being
stretched, per se, by the shop head as the pressure is applied and
flattened, I think I would chose the top that has the head pushing it down
over the piece that is "holding it".
Pascal
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Andy Turner" <aturner@clarion.edu>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:44 AM
Subject: RV10-List: countersink doubler or wing skin?
>
> Quick question here: I've finished match drilling top wing skins to the
> ribs, time to countersink the area associated with the doublers. The
> instructions seem to suggest that it is the top skin that is machine
> countersunk, but the archives hold a couple of posts suggesting that the
> builders countersunk the doubler and dimpled the wing skin. It seems to me
> that either would work - What say ye all?
>
> --------
> Andy Turner
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229227#229227
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Getting ready for the Monster Plane rally |
That is where i am going with it. Then wheels off and the gear remains for
the engine and cowl. Engine is now next to the plane=2C lots of ply wood be
neath the forklift so it could get down to the basement and back up the hil
l. Engine and plane appear to be getting along quite well.Thanks=2CJOhn> Su
bject: RV10-List: Re: Getting ready for the Monster Plane rally> From: Mike
abel@Pacbell.net> Date: Sun=2C 8 Feb 2009 09:19:19 -0800> To: rv10-list@mat
net>> > Hey John. You might want to look up the chapter on the gear fairing
s and wheel pants while the plane is on jacks and level. Might save you som
e time and angst getting them aligned now.> > --------> OSH '08 or Bust (bu
sted) be there in "=3B09> Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF> > > > > Read this t
opic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229212#2
===================> > >
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| Subject: | Re: parts to omit from kit? |
Might as well buy an extra pair of trim tab skins as well. Some get them
okay in 2 tries, some take 3. Not sure which category I will fit in, but
not the perfect on first try group. ;-(
Note, if you are thinking driving to the factory for your demo and
purchasing emp kit to bring home, I don't know whether they have any
kits crated ready to go...normally take a few days to ship them out.
Also, takes a full size pickup with 49" between wheel wells and 8 ft bed
with tailgate down. Their web site crate size is wrong, as they have
gone from 2 crates to a single, wider crate. F150 and Dodge Ram are
okay. Don't know about Chevy. Not to mention the box is around 300lbs.
Don McDonald wrote:
> Hey Nate, first tell us where you are? Lot's of us have extra parts,
> and someone close to you could get together with you and give you a
> really good breakdown of what you could delete, and what you need in
> addition. I did delete quite a few things from the later kit
> segments, but I also sent quite a few things back to Van's.... enough
> little items to pay for my seat belts.
> One thing is certain, buy more #6 and #8 nutplates.
>
> --- On *Sun, 2/8/09, Nate Lewis /<nlewis@wildblue.net>/* wrote:
>
> From: Nate Lewis <nlewis@wildblue.net>
> Subject: RV10-List: parts to omit from kit?
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 8:24 AM
>
> <nlewis@wildblue.net>
>
> delurking, and hello folks -
>
> I think I'm about ready to pull the trigger and go visit the factory for
a
> flight, and come home with the emp kit.
>
> The recent talk of stainless heater valves and door latches has me wondering:
> is there a list of parts to consider deleting from the stock RV-10 kits,
in
> favor of other solutions? from what I've read, I'm guessing there's
> nothing to omit from the empennage, perhaps just a couple things in the wings,
> and dozens of items in the remaining kits.
>
> I should probably ask the same question about the recommended tools list,
but
> I'm sure I wouldn't get the same answers from any two people, so
> I'll just muddle through that part on my own. :)
>
> I guess I've got plenty of time to soak up ideas about the fuse kit and
> beyond, but I might order the wing kit real soon now. any particular advice
at
> order time?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | RV-10 overhead consoles for sale |
Standing In Backup in the event either sale falls through.
John Cox
Oregon
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sun 2/8/2009 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale
Mike,
Nice talking with you on the phone. As discussed, please send a check
for $300. After I ship it I'll send you a note on whatever the balance
is for actual shipping cost.
Carl Froehlich
40 Beechcraft Court
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22405
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Schulz
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale
I would take one.
Mike Schulz
Pro Fish Enterprises, LLC
4878 Edgewater Drive
Mound, MN 55364
612-590-8604
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale
I purchased two Accuracy Avionics overhead panels for my project and for
a friend's project.
http://www.accuracyavionics.com/v1/fiberglassoptions.html
We decided not to install an overhead console. They are as received
from Accuracy Avionics. Selling them for $275 each plus shipping - half
of what I paid.
Carl Froehlich
540 371-8482
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Re: Parking brake |
" no
place for the expanded fluid to go. This happened with solid lines, so if
you have flexible ones you might be OK. Someone with too much time on there
hands could calculate the expansion volume and let us know. "
Actually, this is backwards. When it gets hot, the fluid expands, but the aluminum
lines and brake cylinders expand even more! So theoretically you might have
a problem going hot to cold. Which is exactly what happens if you set the brake
after landing - some of the brake heat will make its way to the brake cylinders,
and later they will cool down.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229263#229263
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron rigging - Reflex ? |
Deems:
I use the flaps in trail or 1st position down with the prepositioning switch
mod for takeoff and again entering downwind. The limiting airspeeds are in
section 5 of the text. As you get used to the airplane you can definitely
feel the effect of the flaps moving into or out of the reflex or full up
position.
Dick Sipp
N110DV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:47 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aileron rigging - Reflex ?
>
> I have the flaps and ailerons mounted to the wing and the wing is attached
> to the fuse. (I don't have the wing tips on yet). It's pretty straight
> forward to align the ailerons with the trailing edges of each flap.
> However, I recall somewhere seeing/hearing about a 'reflex' position where
> the ailerons were rigged 'up' 2-3 degrees on each side. IIRC correctly
> this increased performance. What's the experience/advice from those who
> are flying?
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....and it's almost put together.....'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron rigging - Reflex ? |
Thanks Dick, what I was missing is that when the flaps are fully
retracted they are in the 'Reflex' position. I'm going to mount the wing
tips tomorrow, and then I'll 'final' rig the ailerons.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
r
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale |
Car, I'll take one off your hands.
Jay Wik
16888 River Oaks Blvd
Fergus Falls, MN 56537
218-205-5742
I can send you a check if you like... let me know.
Jay (bld #40536)
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@cox.net>wrot
e:
> I purchased two Accuracy Avionics overhead panels for my project and for
> a friend's project.
> http://www.accuracyavionics.com/v1/fiberglassoptions.html
>
>
> We decided not to install an overhead console. They are as received from
> Accuracy Avionics. Selling them for $275 each plus shipping ' half of
what
> I paid.
>
>
> Carl Froehlich
>
> 540 371-8482
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 overhead consoles for sale |
Looks like I was too slow
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Jay Wik <jaycwik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Car, I'll take one off your hands.
>
> Jay Wik
> 16888 River Oaks Blvd
> Fergus Falls, MN 56537
> 218-205-5742
>
>
> I can send you a check if you like... let me know.
>
> Jay (bld #40536)
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@cox.net>wr
ote:
>
>> I purchased two Accuracy Avionics overhead panels for my project and fo
r
>> a friend's project.
>> http://www.accuracyavionics.com/v1/fiberglassoptions.html
>>
>>
>>
>> We decided not to install an overhead console. They are as received fro
m
>> Accuracy Avionics. Selling them for $275 each plus shipping ' half of
what
>> I paid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl Froehlich
>>
>> 540 371-8482
>>
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