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1. 04:57 AM - Tie rods on baffles and chafe (AirMike)
2. 05:17 AM - Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe (David McNeill)
3. 07:29 AM - Re: Stock Lycoming (Jesse Saint)
4. 07:48 AM - Re: Stock Lycoming (Tim Olson)
5. 08:03 AM - Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe (orchidman)
6. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe (Deems Davis)
7. 08:39 AM - Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe (linn)
8. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: SilPruf window removal (Danny Riggs)
9. 08:57 AM - Insuring an RV-10 with low-time pilots on the policy (Tim Olson)
10. 09:04 AM - Re: SilPruf window removal (Lenny Iszak)
11. 09:26 AM - Re: Gasket between airbox and fuel injection system (Michael Wellenzohn)
12. 09:29 AM - Re: Re: SilPruf window removal (Fred Williams, M.D.)
13. 09:36 AM - "new" builder (Robert Cullinan)
14. 11:31 AM - How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Michael Wellenzohn)
15. 11:39 AM - Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Rene Felker)
16. 11:48 AM - Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (orchidman)
17. 11:51 AM - Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Michael Wellenzohn)
18. 12:18 PM - Re: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Rene Felker)
19. 12:45 PM - Composite Class for RV-10s May 9-10 2009 (Dave Saylor)
20. 01:05 PM - Re: Started (John Cumins)
21. 01:39 PM - Re: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Patrick Pulis)
22. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Rene Felker)
23. 03:03 PM - Re: Insuring an RV-10 with low-time pilots on the policy (Robin Marks)
24. 03:28 PM - Re: Composite Class for RV-10s May 9-10 2009 (Patrick Pulis)
25. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Patrick Pulis)
26. 03:43 PM - Weld-on 10 void (Ron B.)
27. 07:12 PM - Re: Weld-on 10 void (Dave Saylor)
28. 08:12 PM - Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe (AirMike)
29. 08:28 PM - Re: Started (Strasnuts)
30. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: Started (Tim Olson)
31. 08:54 PM - Re: Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe (Dave Saylor)
32. 09:05 PM - Re: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Rene)
33. 10:03 PM - Re: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) (Patrick Pulis)
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| Subject: | Tie rods on baffles and chafe |
I am trying to install the tie rods on the bottom of the engine and am getting
interference from the aluminum oil lines down there. Is there an anti-chafe material
that I can use there or do I have to cut new oil lines to avoid any contact
with the tie rods. It seems like kind of a foolish system for controlling
the baffles. Why not just screw tabs on each cylinder?
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Tie rods on baffles and chafe |
High temp spital wrap from McMaster Carr
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:56 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tie rods on baffles and chafe
I am trying to install the tie rods on the bottom of the engine and am
getting interference from the aluminum oil lines down there. Is there an
anti-chafe material that I can use there or do I have to cut new oil lines
to avoid any contact with the tie rods. It seems like kind of a foolish
system for controlling the baffles. Why not just screw tabs on each
cylinder?
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Stock Lycoming |
We've flown nonstop from OSH to the FL, although not all the way to
X35. We have flown nonstop from Newton, KS to X35 with a little
diverting for weather and neutral winds at best (we picked the one day
that there weren't tailwinds from West to East). In cruise, at
17,500, we were seeing fuel burns close to 7gph with true airspeeds in
the 150kias range. It's been a long time, so I don't remember the
details. I got flamed a little when I reported it then. That flight
was 7:03 long and we had VFR reserves. That flight, IIRC, was about
914nm nonstop, which is probably our record with standard tanks.
Also, believe it or not, sitting in the -10 seats for that long is
really not that bad. They are very comfortable.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Feb 16, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I don't know what I've used for a longest range so far. I think
> somewhere in the 5 or 5.5 hour leg range, so maybe 750-800nm.
> The plane is capable of more if you fly it higher. You'll find
> great economies above 12,000', and really good ones between
> 8,000-12,000'. If a person had the want, it's not hard to do
> OSH to Atlanta or more. I know Jesse has done something like
> OSH to Florida, right Jesse? I myself have really never landed
> with less than 12 gallons or so of fuel, so I don't push the
> range as much as I could. If I had extended range tanks I'd
> feel better about using up all 60 gallons, but I like knowing
> that there is plenty of fuel, more than the legal reserves,
> and I consider that at ROP settings....so 12 gallons is just
> under an hour....or if you pull back the power, maybe a little
> more than an hour. The RV-10 can cover a lot of ground in an
> hour. I've often taken off and seen my range be 500-700nm,
> but once I have reached cruising altitude (if it were higher),
> and started leaning, the range pushes to over 1000nm with
> reserves (at that fuel flow). Heck, think about it...at
> 8.5gph, you're looking at a 6 hour range with 1 hour reserve
> at LOP settings, so you could do a 900nm leg if you wish.
>
> I don't know if flow matched cylinders give all that much
> benefit. My original ECI Titans had special valve cuts
> and stuff done at Aerosport. The new ones I got after the
> SB/AD came with a "venturi cut" valve or something like that.
> Seems to me the cylinder run the same, and those are stock
> ECI Titans. I've heard that the benefits are fairly
> minimal on our Lycs. Now, flow matching the injectors
> is another story. Bart did mine originally.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Dave Leikam wrote:
>> Considering all the usual variables, what kind of average range
>> would you say you get with the 10? Longest ever? Would you say
>> having the cylinders flow matched etc. has any affect on efficiency
>> or LOP operation?
>> Dave L.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Stock Lycoming
>>>
>>> I try to get the power set to 65% or less, then I lean to at least
>>> 25 degrees LOP on the richest cylinder (last to peak). So I may
>>> have it set anywhere from 25-70 degrees LOP depending on the day.
>>> You do feel the power come back if you take it further LOP than
>>> necessary. But, I always lean using the EFIS as an initial starting
>>> point, because then I don't have to worry so much about what
>>> density altitude and conditions I'm in. I do try to avoid EGT's
>>> that stretch too far above 1400, so if that means leaning to
>>> 40 or 60 LOP on a particular day, I usually do, and typically
>>> I end up with maybe one or two that are pretty close to 1400.
>>> Considering that I don't run LOP under about 7,000', my fuel
>>> flows are almost always 10gph or less....maybe 10.5 max, but
>>> I don't see that often. Usually 10.1 down into the 7's, depending
>>> on altitude. Common would be 8.5-10gph, as I don't get up in that
>>> 14,000-15,000' range too often. At altitudes running 10gph
>>> or so, I may commonly see 160-165kts TAS. If I'm leaner than
>>> normal, or higher, I can get down even to 155kts TAS or
>>> anywhere in that 154-165kt range. It's always an easy 3gph or
>>> more less than if I were running ROP, and generally costs me
>>> somewhere around 8 kts. The range stretches incredibly though,
>>> and I flight plan 160, and use the added range I get with LOP
>>> to give me fuel margins on my planned stops. It's really not
>>> hard to have 4.5-5 hr legs running LOP, or even more. But,
>>> you have to remember you're going to need higher flows once
>>> you start down out of altitude. The temps are nice and cool
>>> on the CHT's all the time running LOP. I would just lean to
>>> a fuel flow, and once I'm set up, I do actually use fuel flow
>>> to manage temps, but I'm hesitant to JUST use fuel flow because
>>> there are just too many variables that affect it. I figure
>>> with today's power in the EFIS's, I should use them. The Chelton's
>>> have a great leaning tool built into the engine page.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> How many degrees lean of peak do you normally run at in typical
>>>> cruise
>>>> settings? An example of fuel flow would be helpful. On my 7 for
>>>> instance, I
>>>> typically lean to a fuel flow (say 7.5 gph) at a given cruise
>>>> power setting
>>>> and density altitude, knowing that particular fuel flow will put
>>>> me 40 or 50
>>>> degrees LOP. It's a quicker setup than trying to lean to a
>>>> specific LOP
>>>> number. I was just wondering how many degrees LOP you end up
>>>> at. It's cool
>>>> that your temps (and by inference, your fuel flows) are balanced
>>>> at those
>>>> LOP settings.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
>>>> Olson
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:56 PM
>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Stock Lycoming
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hundreds of hours running LOP on my Bendix system and all is well.
>>>> There are some things you can do to better balance your injectors,
>>>> and some places will work with you on it. Bart at Aerosport
>>>> has always had an open offer with me to swap injectors to balance
>>>> the fuel flows as best I can. He balanced them originally.
>>>> They have worked so good I haven't yet taken the time to see
>>>> how much more perfect I can get them. It runs really well
>>>> LOP.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave Leikam wrote:
>>>>> I am close to ordering my engine. I originally wanted a BPE
>>>>> engine. In order to save $$ I am now leaning toward a stock
>>>>> XIO-540 and Hartzell prop combo from Van's. I am looking for
>>>>> opinions on this decision regarding engine reliability, LOP
>>>>> operation with Bendix injection system, smoothness and overall
>>>>> performance compared to the BPE or other engine shop engine. I
>>>>> will probably install an ElectroAir ignition with one mag.
>>>>> Thanks in advance for the input.
>>>>> Dave Leikam
>>>>> RV-10 #40496
>>>>> N89DA (Reserved)
>>>>> Muskego, WI
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stock Lycoming |
Just think of what kinds of distance you could cover with a good
tailwind. ;)
I agree TOTALLY. I've not driven a car in my life that has
seats that compare in comfort to the RV-10. I find it amazing
that I can put in 9 or 10 hour flying days and not be sore a
bit, but 2 hours in the cars and I'm not comfortable at all.
From a full-leather suburban on down, I've just never been
as comfortable as the RV-10 seats make me.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> We've flown nonstop from OSH to the FL, although not all the way to
> X35. We have flown nonstop from Newton, KS to X35 with a little
> diverting for weather and neutral winds at best (we picked the one day
> that there weren't tailwinds from West to East). In cruise, at 17,500,
> we were seeing fuel burns close to 7gph with true airspeeds in the
> 150kias range. It's been a long time, so I don't remember the details.
> I got flamed a little when I reported it then. That flight was 7:03
> long and we had VFR reserves. That flight, IIRC, was about 914nm
> nonstop, which is probably our record with standard tanks. Also,
> believe it or not, sitting in the -10 seats for that long is really not
> that bad. They are very comfortable.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Feb 16, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know what I've used for a longest range so far. I think
>> somewhere in the 5 or 5.5 hour leg range, so maybe 750-800nm.
>> The plane is capable of more if you fly it higher. You'll find
>> great economies above 12,000', and really good ones between
>> 8,000-12,000'. If a person had the want, it's not hard to do
>> OSH to Atlanta or more. I know Jesse has done something like
>> OSH to Florida, right Jesse? I myself have really never landed
>> with less than 12 gallons or so of fuel, so I don't push the
>> range as much as I could. If I had extended range tanks I'd
>> feel better about using up all 60 gallons, but I like knowing
>> that there is plenty of fuel, more than the legal reserves,
>> and I consider that at ROP settings....so 12 gallons is just
>> under an hour....or if you pull back the power, maybe a little
>> more than an hour. The RV-10 can cover a lot of ground in an
>> hour. I've often taken off and seen my range be 500-700nm,
>> but once I have reached cruising altitude (if it were higher),
>> and started leaning, the range pushes to over 1000nm with
>> reserves (at that fuel flow). Heck, think about it...at
>> 8.5gph, you're looking at a 6 hour range with 1 hour reserve
>> at LOP settings, so you could do a 900nm leg if you wish.
>>
>> I don't know if flow matched cylinders give all that much
>> benefit. My original ECI Titans had special valve cuts
>> and stuff done at Aerosport. The new ones I got after the
>> SB/AD came with a "venturi cut" valve or something like that.
>> Seems to me the cylinder run the same, and those are stock
>> ECI Titans. I've heard that the benefits are fairly
>> minimal on our Lycs. Now, flow matching the injectors
>> is another story. Bart did mine originally.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Dave Leikam wrote:
>>> Considering all the usual variables, what kind of average range would
>>> you say you get with the 10? Longest ever? Would you say having the
>>> cylinders flow matched etc. has any affect on efficiency or LOP
>>> operation?
>>> Dave L.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Stock Lycoming
>>>>
>>>> I try to get the power set to 65% or less, then I lean to at least
>>>> 25 degrees LOP on the richest cylinder (last to peak). So I may
>>>> have it set anywhere from 25-70 degrees LOP depending on the day.
>>>> You do feel the power come back if you take it further LOP than
>>>> necessary. But, I always lean using the EFIS as an initial starting
>>>> point, because then I don't have to worry so much about what
>>>> density altitude and conditions I'm in. I do try to avoid EGT's
>>>> that stretch too far above 1400, so if that means leaning to
>>>> 40 or 60 LOP on a particular day, I usually do, and typically
>>>> I end up with maybe one or two that are pretty close to 1400.
>>>> Considering that I don't run LOP under about 7,000', my fuel
>>>> flows are almost always 10gph or less....maybe 10.5 max, but
>>>> I don't see that often. Usually 10.1 down into the 7's, depending
>>>> on altitude. Common would be 8.5-10gph, as I don't get up in that
>>>> 14,000-15,000' range too often. At altitudes running 10gph
>>>> or so, I may commonly see 160-165kts TAS. If I'm leaner than
>>>> normal, or higher, I can get down even to 155kts TAS or
>>>> anywhere in that 154-165kt range. It's always an easy 3gph or
>>>> more less than if I were running ROP, and generally costs me
>>>> somewhere around 8 kts. The range stretches incredibly though,
>>>> and I flight plan 160, and use the added range I get with LOP
>>>> to give me fuel margins on my planned stops. It's really not
>>>> hard to have 4.5-5 hr legs running LOP, or even more. But,
>>>> you have to remember you're going to need higher flows once
>>>> you start down out of altitude. The temps are nice and cool
>>>> on the CHT's all the time running LOP. I would just lean to
>>>> a fuel flow, and once I'm set up, I do actually use fuel flow
>>>> to manage temps, but I'm hesitant to JUST use fuel flow because
>>>> there are just too many variables that affect it. I figure
>>>> with today's power in the EFIS's, I should use them. The Chelton's
>>>> have a great leaning tool built into the engine page.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob and Karen Brown wrote:
>>>>> <bkbrown@minetfiber.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> How many degrees lean of peak do you normally run at in typical cruise
>>>>> settings? An example of fuel flow would be helpful. On my 7 for
>>>>> instance, I
>>>>> typically lean to a fuel flow (say 7.5 gph) at a given cruise power
>>>>> setting
>>>>> and density altitude, knowing that particular fuel flow will put me
>>>>> 40 or 50
>>>>> degrees LOP. It's a quicker setup than trying to lean to a
>>>>> specific LOP
>>>>> number. I was just wondering how many degrees LOP you end up at.
>>>>> It's cool
>>>>> that your temps (and by inference, your fuel flows) are balanced at
>>>>> those
>>>>> LOP settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 5:56 PM
>>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Stock Lycoming
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hundreds of hours running LOP on my Bendix system and all is well.
>>>>> There are some things you can do to better balance your injectors,
>>>>> and some places will work with you on it. Bart at Aerosport
>>>>> has always had an open offer with me to swap injectors to balance
>>>>> the fuel flows as best I can. He balanced them originally.
>>>>> They have worked so good I haven't yet taken the time to see
>>>>> how much more perfect I can get them. It runs really well
>>>>> LOP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>>> do not archive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Leikam wrote:
>>>>>> I am close to ordering my engine. I originally wanted a BPE
>>>>>> engine. In order to save $$ I am now leaning toward a stock
>>>>>> XIO-540 and Hartzell prop combo from Van's. I am looking for
>>>>>> opinions on this decision regarding engine reliability, LOP
>>>>>> operation with Bendix injection system, smoothness and overall
>>>>>> performance compared to the BPE or other engine shop engine. I
>>>>>> will probably install an ElectroAir ignition with one mag. Thanks
>>>>>> in advance for the input.
>>>>>> Dave Leikam
>>>>>> RV-10 #40496
>>>>>> N89DA (Reserved)
>>>>>> Muskego, WI
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe |
I don't have the plans here but if I remember correctly, the plans calls for cutting
some of the provided clear plastic tubing.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Engine, Fiberglass - SB
(N2GB registered)
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| Subject: | Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe |
Exactly, here's some links to some pics:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20FF2%20Baffling%20and%20Plenum/slides/DSC04994.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20FF2%20Baffling%20and%20Plenum/slides/DSC04995.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20FF2%20Baffling%20and%20Plenum/slides/DSC04996.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20FF2%20Baffling%20and%20Plenum/slides/DSC04997.html
Deems Davis # 406
close
http://deemsrv10.com/
orchidman wrote:
>
> I don't have the plans here but if I remember correctly, the plans calls for
cutting some of the provided clear plastic tubing.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe |
Slip a length of tubing over the tie rods. The lower parts of the
baffles don't have to be perfect .... tighten the nuts to snug the
aluminum up but not stretch the tab. Also, use washers under the nuts
(bigger is better) and Locktite one nut so that you can remove the other
nut and slip the tierod out.
Linn
AirMike wrote:
>
> I am trying to install the tie rods on the bottom of the engine and am getting
interference from the aluminum oil lines down there. Is there an anti-chafe
material that I can use there or do I have to cut new oil lines to avoid any contact
with the tie rods. It seems like kind of a foolish system for controlling
the baffles. Why not just screw tabs on each cylinder?
>
> --------
> OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
> Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230636#230636
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SilPruf window removal |
Thanks for the link. I am doing the windows as soon as I get this stuff in.
One more question..... there is a flange about 3/4" wide that the plexiglas
s will sit on where the Silpruf will be bedded. Since the Silpruf is white
(I presume) what do you do about the white ring that will be left around ea
ch pane where the Silpruf will show thru? If it's clear then the pink canop
y will show thru. Do you paint the fiberglass first to eliminate this? I'm
just trying to visualize the procedure before applying the $18 per tube stu
ff. Thanks again=2C Dan
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: SilPruf window removal
> From: lenard@rapiddecision.com
> Date: Mon=2C 16 Feb 2009 20:28:19 -0800
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Dan=2C
>
> Here's the Amazon link for Silpruf:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1234844526/ref=sr_nr_seeall_2?ie=UTF8&r
s=&keywords=silpruf&rh=i:aps=2Ck:silpruf=2Ci:tools
>
> or you can get it here http://www.dkhardware.com/product-3620-scs2003-bla
ck-ge-silpruf-silicone-sealant.html for a couple dollars cheaper. I just tr
ust Amazon a little more...
>
> Lenny
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230611#230611
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| Subject: | Insuring an RV-10 with low-time pilots on the policy |
Recently my wife has been interested in learning to fly.
She would probably do her 40 hours and get her certificate
but then may or may not ever fly alone from that point on.
She would just love to do it, and be able to do it if she
wants to. It opens the doors, anyway.
So I checked in to ask about insurance effects of things
like: Adding another pilot with 200hrs in RV-10's.
Adding my dad who would have over 300 hours TT, just in
case some day I would consider letting him fly it.
Adding my wife for either training, or just post-training,
so that she can be listed.
See the bottom of the email for final comments, but...
What I found was:
"It should not cost to add a 200 make and model pilot"
Therefore, if I called and said I wanted Scott to be listed
on my policy, probably wouldn't cost me a penny.
----
"Their min pilot requirement is PVT 300 total hours,
he would need 5 hours of dual."
So that portion of the reply means, yeah, I can add my
dad to the policy, but he needs to for sure have 300 hours
total time, and needs 5 hours of dual. (or with AIG,
250 but the dual from Mike or Alex).
----
And regarding my wife:
"Your training plan for your wife sounds good but
unfortunately Global would not add your wife until she
is a PVT pilot with 300 total hours, this is their
minimum pilot requirements for this aircraft. AIG is
PVT 250 Total with IFR and must have dual with Mike
Seager or Alex DeDominicis."
"I could try another company with her having 100 total
hours but the premium will come in higher then your
current premium with Global." (I say...no sh1t) :)
-----
So this is just put out there to illustrate the
importance of piloting time prior to insuring your
RV-10. Notice that AIG wants 250+Instrument
rating. Global wants 300. Yeah, you may find
insurance out there for someone with less hours,
but I've basically come to the conclusion that
there is no way that I can bother to add my wife
to the policy until she has at least 100 if not
300 hours. For someone who's building the RV-10
to use for instruction....who wants to actually
get their pilot cert in it, or who JUST got their
pilot cert and now wants a plane, I really think
you should consider buying a spam can for 2-3
years, and flying 100 hrs per year first. It will
help your rates. Or at least plan to build a
pretty trimmed down RV-10, that doesn't cost
a fortune, and just don't insure the hull for
a few years. Insurance is going to be a tough
topic for I'm sure a couple hundred of you builders
at least, so I figured it's good to keep the
dialog open.
Now, for those of us flying, it's OUR job to FLY SAFE
and not have any claims. Remember that we may be
"nice guys" (or maybe not...:)) to the RV-10 community,
but we're certainly not being good to our fellow
builders if we do stupid and reckless things and
cause claims, or especially death, in our model
of aircraft.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: SilPruf window removal |
Dan,
You can get the silpruf in white, black, gray and bronze. I'm planning on using
the black one like Dave did.
Before gluing the window in, you apply a very light coat on the glass where the
window flange goes, and it will give it a uniform black color. Let that dry for
a day and then you glue in the window.
I think it's worth getting the videotape from Airlinktech.
Looks like they sell the silpruf too, but they only have white and gray:
http://mall.igfarm.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=airlinktech&Category_Code=Supplies
I need to mention that i hate VHS. I needed to borrow a VHS player and then the
tape was stuck, so i had to open it up and straighten out the guts inside before
it would start playing...
Check out Dave's writeup about this at:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=39388
For what it's worth, Cirrus uses the aluminum color silicone on their windows.
Lenny
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| Subject: | Re: Gasket between airbox and fuel injection system |
Thank you John!
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: SilPruf window removal |
Danny;
I bought the black. It is not paintable. If I had to do it again,
paint a small ring of black at the edge where the silpruf meets the
fiberglass. It would help the painters get a crisper line . I really
like the way the windows came out. I think it makes for a very nice
installation. If you are going to paint before you fly, you could leave
out the last fillet until _after_ final paint. That way, you could get
the silpruf to cover the paint as it wraps over the edge of the
fiberglass. It would look really slick then.
Dr Fred.
Danny Riggs wrote:
> Thanks for the link. I am doing the windows as soon as I get this
> stuff in.
> One more question..... there is a flange about 3/4" wide that the
> plexiglass will sit on where the Silpruf will be bedded. Since
> the Silpruf is white (I presume) what do you do about the white ring
> that will be left around each pane where the Silpruf will show thru?
> If it's clear then the pink canopy will show thru. Do you paint the
> fiberglass first to eliminate this? I'm just trying to visualize the
> procedure before applying the $18 per tube stuff. Thanks again, Dan
>
>
> > Subject: RV10-List: Re: SilPruf window removal
> > From: lenard@rapiddecision.com
> > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:28:19 -0800
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Here's the Amazon link for Silpruf:
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> >
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> >
> > or you can get it here
> http://www.dkhardware.com/product-3620-scs2003-black-ge-silpruf-silicone-sealant.html
> for a couple dollars cheaper. I just trust Amazon a little more...
> >
> > Lenny
> >
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Hello =0AAll.=0A =0AI=99m also a new RV10 builder (kit =0A40520). Cu
rrently finishing the fuselage and waiting on a April delivery of QB =0Awin
gs. I=99ve been reading the postings on and off for a few months and
=0Aappreciate all the information. I have a flying RV9A completed in 2005
. =0A =0ARobert =0ACullinan=0Awww.pilotlights.net=0A =0A(We make the LED i
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| Subject: | How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
I took the time to really get my workshop cleaned up and while working through
my "to be used" parts I came across a 4th push pull cable (cabin heat type). I
will have two for cabin heat (rear & front) one for alternative air for the
airbox. So why is there a forth since it came with the kit?
Am I missing something here?
Michael
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#511
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| Subject: | How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
Carb heat for o-540's ?
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type)
I took the time to really get my workshop cleaned up and while working
through my "to be used" parts I came across a 4th push pull cable (cabin
heat type). I will have two for cabin heat (rear & front) one for
alternative air for the airbox. So why is there a forth since it came with
the kit?
Am I missing something here?
Michael
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
I have it also. If you installed the air cut off door in the front of the air
box, then you would use it.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Engine, Fiberglass - SB
(N2GB registered)
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| Subject: | Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
Ok great thanks guys, that will come as a spare one since I have an IO-540.
Cheers
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
Also, I used mine for air control to the "new" oil cooler I just put in.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type)
Ok great thanks guys, that will come as a spare one since I have an IO-540.
Cheers
Michael
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#511
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| Subject: | Composite Class for RV-10s May 9-10 2009 |
AirCrafters will be holding our "Composites for RV-10s" class again May 9 &
10 (Saturday and Sunday), 2009.
More information is available here:
http://www.aircraftersllc.com/seminars.htm
We will cover all of the composite parts, including the fitting of a cabin
top. The class consists of equal parts lecture and hands-on work. Wear old
clothes!
Although the cabin top and doors are specific to RV-10s, the class is a good
primer for any aircraft-related composite work.
Please email or call if you would like us to fit your top during the
class--no charge!
Again, rides will be available in our RV-10, weather permitting.
Class size is limited to 15 builders. Cost is $350. We get a lot of very
positive feedback, so sign up early!
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Sean
Welcome to the RV-10 world. I am serial number 40865 June 2008 and am just
about to start the riveting of the Horz stab. I have enjoyed every hour and
the friendship that comes with building the rv-10. Also I would recommend
that you find an EAA chapter near you to join there great people doing what
we all love.
Congrats and don't worry about mistakes we all make them. 1 word of the
wise is when you do your inventory make sure to organize everything well.
It will prevent you from reordering parts you can not find, then when they
show up you find the lost ones. Don't ask me how I know that routine but I
have a set of spare Hors rear spar center hinge brackets if any one needs a
set.
Enjoy, I truly am.
40864 Priming Horv stab parts.
John G. Cumins
President
JC'S Interactive Systems
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94533
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
Your Total Technology Solution Provider
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Started
Hello everyone,
My name is Sean Strasburg and I just started my RV-10. I wanted to
introduce myself and make sure I am doing this right. I received my
empennage on the 3rd and now I am getting ready to rivet the VS. I have
already learned a lot from reading this matronics list. Also, I wanted to
thank Scott Schmidt for helping me with the stupid questions starting my kit
and getting me a ride in his wonderful RV-10.
Serial 40936
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| Subject: | Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
Any pictures of the "new oil cooler" installation please Rene?=0A=0ARegards
=0A=0APatrick Pulis=0ARV-10 #40299=C2- VH-XPP=0AAdelaide, South Australia
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Rene Felker <rene@f
elker.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, 18 February, 20
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ne@felker.com>=0A=0AAlso, I used mine for air control to the "new" oil cool
er I just put in.=0A=0ARene' Felker=0ARV-10 N423CF Flying=0A801-721-6080=0A
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wellenzohn.net>=0A=0AOk great thanks guys, that will come as a spare one si
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| Subject: | Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
I don=99t have any pictures, but the new cooler is the one Alex
sells and I put a butterfly valve on the back of the baffling in order
to control the airflow. I can=99t remember who I bought the
butterfly valve from..I will have to look that up at home.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat
type)
Any pictures of the "new oil cooler" installation please Rene?
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
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Sent: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009 6:45:04 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat
type)
Also, I used mine for air control to the "new" oil cooler I just put in.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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Wellenzohn
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat
type)
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Ok great thanks guys, that will come as a spare one since I have an
IO-540.
Cheers
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| Subject: | Insuring an RV-10 with low-time pilots on the policy |
Tim,
I have a business partner that came from a flying family (8
pilots) and he wanted to teach his two kids (16 & 18) to fly so I
purchased a cherry Cessna 150/150 (hp) for something like $17K. We went
through the thing top to bottom to make sure it was 100% before he
trained both his kids to the best of his ability prior to handing them
off to a CFI for "real" training. By then they were extremely
comfortable with the principles of flight and the rest of their
certification went well. I then let a number of other friends and
associated train in the plane. Insurance and flight operations have been
really cheap and a lot of people have benefited from this purchase. I
believe I bought the plane well and normally would not expect to lose
too much when it's time to sell (current market conditions excluded).
While this may not be a viable route for most people maybe a multi
person partnership on a trainer could be a viable way to fly in your own
plane and build a lot of hours w/o paying costly rental fees or training
in too much plane whose insurance costs match the total ownership costs
of a trainer.
Robin
STILL in paint
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:55 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Insuring an RV-10 with low-time pilots on the policy
Recently my wife has been interested in learning to fly.
She would probably do her 40 hours and get her certificate
but then may or may not ever fly alone from that point on.
She would just love to do it, and be able to do it if she
wants to. It opens the doors, anyway.
So I checked in to ask about insurance effects of things
like: Adding another pilot with 200hrs in RV-10's.
Adding my dad who would have over 300 hours TT, just in
case some day I would consider letting him fly it.
Adding my wife for either training, or just post-training,
so that she can be listed.
See the bottom of the email for final comments, but...
What I found was:
"It should not cost to add a 200 make and model pilot"
Therefore, if I called and said I wanted Scott to be listed
on my policy, probably wouldn't cost me a penny.
----
"Their min pilot requirement is PVT 300 total hours,
he would need 5 hours of dual."
So that portion of the reply means, yeah, I can add my
dad to the policy, but he needs to for sure have 300 hours
total time, and needs 5 hours of dual. (or with AIG,
250 but the dual from Mike or Alex).
----
And regarding my wife:
"Your training plan for your wife sounds good but
unfortunately Global would not add your wife until she
is a PVT pilot with 300 total hours, this is their
minimum pilot requirements for this aircraft. AIG is
PVT 250 Total with IFR and must have dual with Mike
Seager or Alex DeDominicis."
"I could try another company with her having 100 total
hours but the premium will come in higher then your
current premium with Global." (I say...no sh1t) :)
-----
So this is just put out there to illustrate the
importance of piloting time prior to insuring your
RV-10. Notice that AIG wants 250+Instrument
rating. Global wants 300. Yeah, you may find
insurance out there for someone with less hours,
but I've basically come to the conclusion that
there is no way that I can bother to add my wife
to the policy until she has at least 100 if not
300 hours. For someone who's building the RV-10
to use for instruction....who wants to actually
get their pilot cert in it, or who JUST got their
pilot cert and now wants a plane, I really think
you should consider buying a spam can for 2-3
years, and flying 100 hrs per year first. It will
help your rates. Or at least plan to build a
pretty trimmed down RV-10, that doesn't cost
a fortune, and just don't insure the hull for
a few years. Insurance is going to be a tough
topic for I'm sure a couple hundred of you builders
at least, so I figured it's good to keep the
dialog open.
Now, for those of us flying, it's OUR job to FLY SAFE
and not have any claims. Remember that we may be
"nice guys" (or maybe not...:)) to the RV-10 community,
but we're certainly not being good to our fellow
builders if we do stupid and reckless things and
cause claims, or especially death, in our model
of aircraft.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Composite Class for RV-10s May 9-10 2009 |
Consider filming the course for us here 'southern' folk, in the really deep
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Oz=0A=0ADo Not Archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFr
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2009 7:12:38 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Composite Class for RV-10s May 9-10 2
009=0A=0A=0AAirCrafters will be holding our "Composites for RV-10s" class a
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=0AWe will cover all of the composite parts, including the fitting of a cab
in top.=C2- The class consists of equal parts lecture and hands-on work.
=C2- Wear old clothes!=0A=C2-=0AAlthough the cabin top and doors are sp
ecific to RV-10s, the class is a good primer for any aircraft-related compo
site work.=0A=C2-=0APlease email or call if you would like us to fit your
top during the class--no charge!=0A=C2-=0AAgain, rides will be available
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| Subject: | Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
Rene, how much was the cooler and did you need to replace both the Vans sup
plied oil cooler and the mounting box?=0A=0AAny chance of a contact for Ale
x please.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0APatrick Pulis=0ARV-10 #40299=C2- VH-XPP=0AAde
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one Alex sells and I put a butterfly valve on the back of the baffling in
order to control the airflow.=C2- I can=99t remember who I bought t
he butterfly valve from..I will have to look that up at home.=0A
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=0AAlso, I used mine for air control to the "new" oil cooler I just put in.
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Finally got all transparencies installed. I noticed a few crazing cracks on the
rear windows and we did not use clamps in those areas, nothing major. Installed
the windscreen today and we have a small void on the flange one one side with
the weld-on 10. Apparently some of the glue ran down before we placed the windscreen.
An area about two inches long is filled only 1/2 the width. The forward
edge is void. Would it be possible to fill this void with epoxy in a syringe
, no weld -on left?
All other flanges 99% filled, very pleased. This is my first post on Matronics,
I'm a regular on VAF, hope that's OK with you guy's. I've been doing some research
here for a while.
Thanks Ron
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I would just leave a small void like that alone. There's plenty more
holding in the screen. If you need to touch it up for cosmetics, go ahead,
but don't worry about a failure.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron B.
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Subject: RV10-List: Weld-on 10 void
Finally got all transparencies installed. I noticed a few crazing cracks on
the rear windows and we did not use clamps in those areas, nothing major.
Installed the windscreen today and we have a small void on the flange one
one side with the weld-on 10. Apparently some of the glue ran down before we
placed the windscreen. An area about two inches long is filled only 1/2 the
width. The forward edge is void. Would it be possible to fill this void with
epoxy in a syringe , no weld -on left?
All other flanges 99% filled, very pleased. This is my first post on
Matronics, I'm a regular on VAF, hope that's OK with you guy's. I've been
doing some research here for a while.
Thanks Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe |
Note that the build manual seems to recommend that you use the supplied plastic
pipe (it only says something about 1/4" tube. )
The supplied tube that I see is Parker Parflex N 1/4" x .035 tube.
This tubing is only good to 193 degrees if it is the Nylon tube shown in Parker's
manual.
Correct me if I am wrong......please
--------
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Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF
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Does anybody know if the proseal comes in the wing kit for the tanks or do I have
to buy it separately?
--------
A&P, ATP
typed CE-525(s), CE-500
RV-10 emp started!!!!
N801VR reserved
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You buy it separately.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Strasnuts wrote:
>
> Does anybody know if the proseal comes in the wing kit for the tanks or do I
have to buy it separately?
>
> --------
> A&P, ATP
> typed CE-525(s), CE-500
> RV-10 emp started!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe |
Mine melted like wax. But somehow the tie rod doesn't rub the oil lines, so
the tubing isn't needed in my case. But those lines are pretty delicate and
if anything is close to touching them, then you'll have to do something to
prevent contact..
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Tie rods on baffles and chafe
Note that the build manual seems to recommend that you use the supplied
plastic pipe (it only says something about 1/4" tube. )
The supplied tube that I see is Parker Parflex N 1/4" x .035 tube.
This tubing is only good to 193 degrees if it is the Nylon tube shown in
Parker's manual.
Correct me if I am wrong......please
--------
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| Subject: | Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat type) |
Got the oil cooler here
http://www.aviationtechproducts.com/html/engine__parts.html
$427
I have not flown with it yet, so I don't know if it will help my oil
heat
problem. In the summer I have to restrict climbs due to oil heat..we
will
see this year.
Not wanting the oil to be to cold, I put in this air controller, also
have
not flown with it in order to check the effectiveness..
http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-controller-cooler-p-14566.html
Rene'
801-721-6080
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type)
Rene, how much was the cooler and did you need to replace both the Vans
supplied oil cooler and the mounting box?
Any chance of a contact for Alex please.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
Do Not Archive
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From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009 8:19:36 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat
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I don't have any pictures, but the new cooler is the one Alex sells and
I
put a butterfly valve on the back of the baffling in order to control
the
airflow. I can't remember who I bought the butterfly valve from...I
will
have to look that up at home.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat
type)
Any pictures of the "new oil cooler" installation please Rene?
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
_____
From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009 6:45:04 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: How many push pull contol cables (cabin heat
type)
Also, I used mine for air control to the "new" oil cooler I just put in.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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Ok great thanks guys, that will come as a spare one since I have an
IO-540.
Cheers
Michael
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